Both ADHD and non-ADHD spouses have a tendency to feel as if their own vision of the world is the way that the world really "is" - this feeling is human nature. We have many years on earth, we've learned certain things about how the world works and who we (and others) are in relation to what's around us. So it can be a revelation when we have the courage to step outside of our own view and try to see the world through our partner's eyes. Doing this can be very healing for a couple because in so doing you validate your partner. You don't have to agree with the choices your partner has made, but just acknowledging the validity of your partner's different perspective - that his or her logic is internally consistent and is a legitimate way to see the world - can start you moving in a more positive direction. This may seem basic, but it's amazing how much it gets in the way.
It used to be that my husband and I would work very awkwardly and contentiously whenever we tried to do something together. I wanted to check that project off the list, and from experience I usually had a very clear idea in my mind about how it could get done quickly and efficiently. George would invariably have a different approach. Instead of spending our time compatibly working together to get whatever it was done - each contributing in our own way - we would fight about how it would get done and whether or not all of the steps George wanted to take were necessary. For example:
Buying an item off the internet: I know a brand that is fine in my mind. A good approach, then, is to find it and buy it. George takes a different approach. Is the brand I have in mind the best quality? Is it the best value? Once he settles on the best value, where can he get it for the best price? He'll do a complete search for information until he comes up with the best, lowest price solution. My view of the world? Too many things to do in a day and I just want to get it DONE. His view of the world? Getting a good bargain is important enough to take extra time to do it, particularly when you have the internet at your fingertips (which is fun and easy to search).
Ignoring the validity of each other's approach means that we have this experience, which will probably sound very familiar to you: He feels I'm being bossy and unappreciative of his efforts - he becomes angry at this, and vows silently that he won't try to help me with any similar project again. I feel he's being obstructionist and not listening to my simple request, which ticks me off. Notice that each of us feels the other is not listening, or "hearing our needs". In point of fact, if either of us had been willing to acknowledge why the other approached the problem the way they did, we would have interacted differently.
Neither of these approaches is "correct" - they are just different. But when I said things like "Don't waste time doing all that searching, we don't need that, just BUY the damn thing!" I was negating the validity of his approach - diminishing him by not acknowledging that there is more than one way to do things. Once I was able to "put myself into his shoes" and think more carefully about how important getting all the details is to him I could then make some choices:
- Have him gather information until he was satisfied, then make the decision jointly using his input to inform us both
- Hand the project over to him completely so I wasn't party to, or frustrated by, his searching
- Keep the project to myself without involving him so that it got done quickly (but with no assistance of any sort)
Any of these approaches works - and all of them acknowledge that his way of doing things is just as legitimate as my own.
I've used a simple example above to illustrate my point. You can use your imagination to think about all of the ways "seeing through your partner's eyes" might create a new relationship for you both.
There are a couple of reasons people resist thinking from their spouse's point of view:
- It's hard! The logic may be internally consistent, but to understand that consistency you have to know a lot about what's going on in your partner's head. ADHD and non-ADHD people often see things quite differently, so this takes lots of "safe" conversation around who you are and how you think.
- It takes time. Generally speaking, the ADHD partner's way takes longer (for a number of reasons). Part of accepting and validating the approach of his or her partner, then, is to accept that efficiency is not your top priority.
- You think this means you must agree. This isn't true. You can disagree with the person's conclusions without invalidating how they got there.
- It threatens your sense of self. When you start seeing the world through your partner's eyes then it calls into question some of the assumptions you have always held as "true". It's a great way to "grow" and expand our view of the world and ourselves, but can be a bit scary to challenge the status quo.
So, how might you start putting yourself more effectively in your partner's shoes? First, by asking questions. Why is that important to you? How did you reach that conclusion? What would you do next? Second, and this is very important, by not making judgments about your partner's responses. His or her logic may not make sense at first (or may drive you crazy) but it is no less valid for that. If you find yourself thinking "wow, that's strange/different/incomprehensible" ask more questions until you understand it better. In your mind, pretend to be your partner and see if you can create the "next" step in the logic or recreate his or her logic.
Why bother? You'll both be enriched. You'll both feel more valued by your partner. You'll start to like each other better. You'll start to behave in more respectful ways towards each other (look back up at the 3 choices in the internet project - they are far more respectful than just trying to get my partner to do it my way). Your partner will have more desire to be engaged with you and work with you since you validate his or her "way of being". A final benefit - understanding the internal logic of an ADHD partner's approach to life helps keep the non-ADHD spouse from "feeling sorry" for the ADHD spouse. With understanding comes appreciation (and sometimes even awe!).
Remember, you don't have to agree with the conclusions, only accept that the way each partner gets there is valid and understandable. Can you think of ways in which you might be able to practice being in your partner's shoes?
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Wow this is awesome. I'm ADD
Submitted by WildChild on
What is an NT?
Submitted by Sueann on
Sorry, may be common internet term but I don't know what it means.
NT
Submitted by MelissaOrlov on
I'm starting to realise....
Submitted by ginniebean on
I'm kind of surprised that NT would be disliked, for me it's just a very handy shorthand way or saying "those without a neurological disability" because NT is used by a whole lot of people not just those with ADHD. I guess I've always thought of it as something similar to "it's typical to have a metre (3 feet) of snow in saskatchewan each winter". Skiers might think good.. farmers might think good.. me.. eww cold yuck.. go away. Maybe it's the information that goes with it that's off putting.
To address the actual topic tho, I have adhd, and I'm more like you then George. "Just buy the darn thing and lets get this over with" is something I've said quite often. Then again, I dislike shopping and I'm in and out as fast as I can be. I have only bought a few books off the net and those were ones I read a review of so I knew what I was getting no comparison shopping necessary. I can't think of anything more tiresome than spending time shopping on the computer, tho I know some people do find this fun and interesting. I don't have the patience for it.
yep, I need to work on this...
Submitted by phoenixgirl78 on
This is definitely something I'm guilty of. I have a very quick, efficient way of doing searches. I almost always find what I'm looking for on the first try. For more obscure stuff, it may take longer. But my husband has a completely different method. It takes longer and isn't as successful. But that's really not the way I should be looking at things. I need to remember that he has his own ways, and my telling him they aren't right just feeds his low self-esteem.
So i'm trying to be more patient. I just have to struggle against my inner over-achiever that says, "I can do this better and faster!" My results are mixed. Sometimes I'm more patient. Other times, I offer to do the search for him, which avoids an argument but doesn't really help him overall. It more or less tells him, Here, you can't do it right; just let me do it. Then I get overwhelmed by things that need to get done and get mad at his not helping. Talk about mixed messages!
As I said, I'm working on it. Lately, if he's about to do a search and I feel particularly anxious or impatient, I suggest a couple of keywords that I would input into the search box. He usually takes it and then finds what he needs pretty quickly. I'm not quite sure if this is the best solution. On the one hand, I could be teaching him the proper skills to do efficient searches. Over time, he may also learn to boil things down to a couple of keywords. Or I could just be once again reinforcing the idea that he can't do it on his own.
I think, having read this post, that I will ask him later on tonight how he perceives my suggestions. So this post is coming in really handy!
This is not just limited to a
Submitted by tazangel36 on
This is not just limited to a marriage involving ADHD, but also to the rest of our interpersonal contacts. Being able to see things from someone else's perspective is invaluable; mostly because "perception is reality". My husband and I dont' always get this right. I used to micromanage the way he folded the clothes, not realizing that regardless of how they're folded, it's getting done and he's doing it without complaint; my telling how how to fold was completely counter-productive. It wasn't until he told me how to do a task, his way, and I got insulted, that I realized what I was doing. This is just one small example. But he and I really try to step back and walk in each other's shoes if we're in an argument. Does it always work? Well, no, sometimes things are too heated. But being able to get even a small glimpse of how his mind works has really helped. Him understanding just a teensy bit of how mine works has really helped him. It's baby-steps, but it's working.
What happens is your the non
Submitted by Time4Me on
What happens is your the non adhd spouse and can keep putting yourselves in the other persons shoes and it's never reciprocated? Or if you were raise to look at all sides before even opening your mouth and come to a conclusion, but have to rehash all of it over again for the sake of appeasing their "haven't missed something" thinking. Nine times out of ten, after looking at it inside out, upside down, through 2D and 3D, we come to the same conclusion that I had in the first place (only to have to do it again the next time). We have been through the why do you need to do it this way conversation and the answer is "I need to make sure I have all the information before I do anything" or "I need to catch up in my mind" and my response is "after all this time you still do not trust that I have gathered all the information (knowing that is the kind of person that I am) to make this work". Your right about the patience thing, but when you both know there is so little time to accomplish things (and most times it gets started and never finished because of this)(and it's because it's your partner's schedule by choice) you wonder why you bother at all. Unfortunately, I have become so exhausted that I just give up and let whatever happens happens knowing that there will be a mess to clean up later or the job is done half *** I call it "slip slop over the top" And then I blame myself for copping out or get mad that it wasn't done properly.(to code) I was borne into a construction family and can spot something off a mile away, which is a deficit for me with my partner. (and heaven forbid if I suggest someone else do it)
Suggestion for "Communications Struggles" forum topic
Submitted by Looking4Help on
Hi Melissa,
I am finding more and more so many of the struggles in our marriage are around communications. I would love to hear more of others expereinces in this area. I wish there were a forum catagory of Communication, since wading through all the topics in anger and frustration is just so overwhelming to me. I don't see anyplace where I can make suggestions, so this seemed like the place to do it.
Thanks.
Existing forum topic for communications issues
Submitted by admin on
Hi:
There is an already existing forum category for communications issues involving ADHD (http://www.adhdmarriage.com/forums/adhd-marriage-forums/communication-adhd). That would be a good starting point. If there is something more specific you would like to see, please let us know.
George
Thanks
Submitted by Looking4Help on
Thanks - found it.
different view points
Submitted by lori_fields on
Whenever my husband and I don't agree on things he asks my why I have to be so difficult and then we get into an argument. The other day I said to him that its okay for us to have different viewpoints without it turning into a fight. Our discussion or disagreement was our 17 year old ADDer getting his license. He pointed out all the reasons why he didn't think he was ready for his license yet, and then asked for my viewpoint. We actually both were in agreement that he shouldn't be given free reign of the vehicle if in fact he does pass his test. We were just voicing our viewpoints very differently. It was a very different end to our discussions then we usually have.