Do you have the experience where everything you do seems to end in conflict? Are you in the middle of a conversation and suddenly your spouse is going on and on about how you used the wrong word? One of our readers wrote about it this way: "the entire conversation is ignored and the one word is focused on, whether it be to accuse me of changing facts, or blaming her for something, taking a stab at me or just flat out missing the point...there is so much anger and unhappiness ... I have stopped talking since everything I say gets disected and used against me in some way."
Back when my husband and I were fighting he used to change the direction of our conversations to argue over semantics instead of general content, too. It drove me crazy and always made me mad because it felt as if he couldn't stay focused on what was really important and didn't care about the point I was trying to make. It felt as if he just wanted to fight...and didn't care about what.
Looking back, I learned a few things about this pattern. First, just because this is happening to you now doesn't mean that the two of you will always communicate this way. We don't do it at all any more. Really, this conversational style is an artifact of your joint anger.
Second, retreating isn't the answer. Changing how you communicate and what the topic is, is. One communication technique is to try to get your partner to reiterate what they think they understand of what you said. "I would love to know that I clearly communicated what I was thinking. Can you tell me what you heard?" Conversely, you can say "let me make sure I understood what you were saying"...and repeat back to her what you think you heard. Notice that these words point to your communication skills, not your spouse's listening skills, because you want your spouse to understand that you aren't attacking her.
Third, when you get into this type of pattern it is probably a good time to set some conversational rules. Make it "not okay" for someone to attack another person personally. (No "you are always so lazy" or "you never listen to me". Use "I don't feel as if we are sharing the work load around the house evenly" or "are there ways that we can improve how we say things and listen to each other so that we communicate more clearly?") This takes some practice and you need to try to not let anger flare up at lapses. Instead, take the high road and redirect the conversation to the specific problem you are trying to solve and why it needs solving.
It's really important to respect your spouse's opinion about what is bothering her - just because you don't agree with her approach doesn't mean that it isn't either a good approach for her or legitimately a problem...and if she's having a problem, you have a problem. Your job isn't to assess whether or not her approach to an issue is right - it's to assess how your approach and her approach might be melded together for a solution that satisfies you both.
How she processes info and how you do are very different, so it can take a while to clarify things, particularly when you are fighting (which tends to make people very un-thoughtful). Always try to converse with this in mind and be open to her different way of processing and thinking, just as you would want her to be open to yours.
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Re-Focusing
Submitted by Robert Johnson on
Arguing always gets me into trouble
Submitted by panther71 on
In Trouble
Submitted by MelissaOrlov on
Try explaining what you have explained here - that you don't always feel that you are ably telling her "the whole story" - that your request that she let you know what she heard isn't because SHE is stupid...it's because YOU are unsure whether you've gotten across your thought because your mind is racing so fast. In other words, you're not questioning her comprehension, but want to make sure you've provided accurate delivery of the complete thought (and many ideas have subtleties that are hard to get across, as you know!)
Ask her for her patience and point out that it is in her best interests to help you learn to communicate better so that you'll have fewer misunderstandings and arguments as a couple.
By the way - it seems very common that the way that the ADHD spouse expresses things does confuse the non-ADHD spouse. Even when the non-ADHD spouse thinks he/she knows what is being said it isn't, in fact, what the ADD spouse was trying to communicate.
Melissa Orlov
Thanks for the advice
Submitted by panther71 on
I am a Non-ADD spouse. Until
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
As the ADD spouse
Submitted by newfdog on
How long?
Submitted by Ruby (not verified) on
Sounds awful
Submitted by MelissaOrlov on
It sounds as if you are being completely bullied by your husband. I would recommend that you read "You Don't Have to Take it Any More" by Steven Stosny.
Your comment that your arguments seem to invigorate your husband is the scariest part of all - and this does happen to some people (it's a form of self-medication). But you are on the negative side of this, ruining your health.
I'll tell you what Ned Hallowell told me when I got to the point where the stress in my marriage was ruining my health. He said "It may be time for you to change your goal - from saving your marriage to living a happy life. Don't put stock in any particular outcome. You may end up staying married...or you may not. Just think about what you need to do to live the happy life you deserve to live." I had one of those "aha" moments when he said it. Perhaps you should consider the same advice. What would you do to make your life happier?
Melissa Orlov
Ruby
Submitted by Ruby on
Great advice on dealing with ADHD Partner
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
That sounds so much like my
Submitted by mariemor on
Living in the Past
Submitted by MelissaOrlov on
It is excellent that you identify that living in the past is one of the issues - for it certainly is. You have a choice to make, really. Do you accept the past (this does not mean that you like it - just accept it) and let it go in order to make way for more positive interactions with your spouse, or do you cling to the angers and frustrations of the past and let them continue to hurt your present and your future?
Accepting your past is part of forgiving yourself and your spouse. Forgiveness isn't saying "it was okay to do this" but rather getting yourself to a point where your anger and hurt don't continue to dominate you and block your forward progress. Forgiveness is a process of acknowledging where you were and how you got there, accepting it, and letting it go.
Also, you shouldn't feel guilty about feeling relief about your new situation. You got separated because it was such a struggle being together. There should be no guilt at coming to grips with what is going on and acting upon it in a way that you both feel is responsible. Your peace today is a benefit of acting in what you hope will be both of your best interests - and you can hope that it is only the first of many benefits. That said, you need to move in a direction where someday you'll be able to find happiness when you are back together, too.
The question now is - what's next? You've asked your husband to seek help for his ADD. Perhaps you should also seek help for your anger and sadness so that you can move past your past. Just as it will be easier for you both if your husband makes progress on his ADD symptoms, so too will it be easier on you both if you make progress on your own issues and start to understand the role your own behavior and responses have played in the disintigration of your relationship. An added benefit - he'll appreciate that you are taking responsibility for your own actions and putting in the same kind of hard effort he is making.
Good luck to you - it sounds as if you are on a good path!
Melissa Orlov
Yes, I agree with the
Submitted by marimor (not verified) on
LEtting go of the past
Submitted by MelissaOrlov on
I think the topic of what you both bring to the marriage, compared to what you yourself want in a marriage, is a great thing to discuss with your therapist. As is working through whether or not separating is the right path. One lens through which to view this question - what will happen if your guy decides to start seeing other women now that you are separated? How will you feel. A different lens would be "where/how can we make the most progress as individuals - together or separated?" Perhaps a good goal is to make as much forward progress yourself as you can, as quickly as you can, so that if you get back together you can do it with a new set of tools...
As for the housework stuff...I have a bias on this one. Lots of people would kill to have a husband who carried his weight around the house, so don't discount his efforts. Anyone, man or woman, likes to be recognized for the work that they do that others might take for granted. After working hard to do a mindless job like 8 loads of laundry (me - today) or cleaning up (pretty much every day, sigh!), I always like a "thanks" from my spouse. (This thanks is particularly important in that this work isn't acknowledged through compensation...and seems endless.)
To make matters worse, he is going counter-culture...that is, lots of men don't feel that this is their job...making him stand out. It's easy to see why he expects you to notice. If you start saying thanks more, perhaps he will stop bad mouthing you to others (even if he's only doing it to toot his own horn, this makes you feel bad, I'm sure). If this doesn't stop it, then you might have a direct conversation with him about how that hurts.
Melissa Orlov