Almost a year after divorce it's become normal to be in unsolved conflict with the children's father. I normally don't think of it in the urgent sense, since I've given up hope it will ever resolve.
Today I contacted a couple of mutual friends. One of them is loyal to my ex but doesn't admit it. They've heard his version of our divorce and talk to him often but haven't wanted to hear my version. Not that I want to talk about it anymore. They still want to be in my life, but not loyal to me, which doesn't make much sense? Especially since I was loyal and supportive to them in their awful divorce some years back.
But the contact with this friend made me painfully aware of how ugly we've left everything. I must take responsibility for it. We left it a mess. I decided I couldn't repair what he's destroyed - trust, to keep it short. I can't forgive him, since he doesn't want forgiveness. But still. It's a smoking ruin, slightly out of sight most days. And our children magically seem to thrive, but when I was reminded of the ruin, I felt bad for not having cleaned it up, letting them live in it.
I'm dedicated to relations. I care very much. It feels shameful to have this blackened pit where life's biggest attempt at love used to be.
Still, sometimes in life I've decided an issue is not mine to deal with. This is one of these times. I broke myself taking initiatives when we were together. I was the only motor of the family. He's now decided to separate from me entirely and tore down the last shreds of trust to make it definite, doesn't care what I think and wants nothing from me (or so he said until it became clear he expected me to arrange family holidays including him and thought he could charm his way back into my house, and that he imagined I'd continue to be sweet and take all initiatives). I didn't ask for this total break. I couldn't imagine he'd manage without support. But he got the clear break, and I cannot ever take initiatives for him again. For children yes, all the time. But not for him.
He hasn't deserved my initiative, and I don't have any more to dish out. I'm out. I'm permanently out as far as he's concerned.
Values clash here and it puzzles me. Ugly conflict, not my style, not my style to leave messes either, rather to exhaust myself to have peace. But the boundaries concerning him are non-negotiable. Really. It's been that bad.
I guess the friend needs to go. At least as a confidante. Maybe will still get invited to parties. And the ruin I can only hope will tomorrow again slide behind the horizon so I don't have to look at it all the time.
Nothing is Ruined...
Submitted by J on
Swedish, since no one is replying here, I have a few things to say. Excuse me if I take the liberty to speak openly in familiar language ( familiar to me ) as it makes it easier to express myself.
I've been divorced twice, and it sucks harder than anything I know. It'll bring you down to your knees and make you question yourself. This is normal, and it feels like this place you're in will always be this way. I can guarantee, it won't. At some point in time, How you're feeling right now will start to fade and you'll feel better. One day at a time. You've got it inside you to pull yourself up, dig down deep and bring yourself out of the place you're in. I know it, because I've been there before...more than once.
One day at a time. You've got this!
I'm including a video reenactment of a true story and speech by Herb Brookes ( the real life coach ) who coached the US Olympic hockey team when, against all odds, they beach the Russians in the 1980 Winter Olympics. According to the actual players themselves, this speech was extremely accurate to what they heard before the game. When I'm feeling all is lost and there's no hope in sight, I turn to inspiration like this to pull me through.
YouTube
Miracle - Coach Brookes Addresses Team Pre Game
I hear you and see you too Swedish
Submitted by Off the roller ... on
Hey Swedish, I've been MIA lately but I came on here, similar to J, to let you know that you aren't alone. And I think you typed out what you know in your heart is what you should do: That friend should indeed go. They are a part of the old you with the previous boundaries.
It's very clear you have been doing the work. I see you. You are validated in what you are doing. You know it is the right way for you. Let that friend go and let go of the control of the mess that you may (but probably not) leave behind. Let someone else clean up, deal with, handle, not handle, look after, worry, etc any of the things that no longer serve you.
Keep going in the right direction.
Thank you friends
Submitted by Swedish coast on
It's good not to be alone.
All the best to you.
...and also...
Submitted by Off the roller ... on
I remember learning something from Dr Ramini (the woman who speaks about narcisicm...and she says that closure is overrated. And not needed. It's us wanting to have that last shred of control in the hopes of making someone who treated us badly to treat us better... and from the sounds of it: he might be incapable of that.
Closure....
Submitted by c ur self on
Please don't take this wrong...It's just a question that I am throwing out for you to consider...I have read a LOT of your posts, I feel your pain!...In marriages both parties get it wrong from time to time...(act react) When it gets dysfunctional, coming from laziness, anger, disrespect or what ever...The knee jerk reaction is to point it out, hoping they care and will correct it...But if not we end up so many times taking on bigger and heavier loads, struggle w/ anger, even bitterness can happen...(I've been there)....
The spin off of these irreparable difference's can end up being blame and self justification, it's normal, no one deserves to have to do all the heavy family lifting...(especially the wife) So we end up living right there in the reality of all we've had on us....Allowing those efforts to exonerate us for maybe things we would have done differently, or said differently, if our spouse was responsible to all of life's demands in the marriage...
When we know we have produced great effort, it's really hard to own (humble ourselves) the things we could have done better, said better (kindness, respect, etc)....I am not saying you are caring a burden that needs released, but, if you are, just go and meet him somewhere and say what you need to say...(It don't mean his failing aren't his, It don't mean you two will ever be able to coexist) But if it's there, only then can you have the peace and closure you need, maybe you both need....I know your precious children need every opportunity for peace between you two if at all possible...<3
I think so much of you, and I want you to find peace for your life...If this is off target, please forgive me....I just felt in my spirit, I needed to ask....
c
Thanks C
Submitted by Swedish coast on
I appreciate your thoughts.
I've considered carefully whether I should contact him to make peace. I refrain from it for several reasons, the most important being that he doesn't remember what he's done, doesn't realize the impact of it, and doesn't try to modify the narrative at all.
Will an apology from me with none in return make me less hurt? No, it will make for fresh anger and humiliation and set me up for more misery.
So no, sadly I long ago lost hope in closure with him.
And also, do I actually want to be back on speaking terms with him? No, since it's meant he leans heavily on me for everything including decision making but doesn't like to admit he's in need of help.
No more of that. Actually I'm more afraid of slipping back into codependency than I am of living with the blackened pit.