Hello all. ADHD spouse here. My challenges have destroyed my marriage, and my life. My wife is leaving and taking our 3 kids with her. When we talked she told me about how she couldn't trust me anymore because of all the times before, that I said I'd do this better or do that better and whatever efforts I had put forward weren't enough or didn't last. I just hope all of you understand that when you say you're done, and your spouse says they'll do better, it's BECAUSE they care about you and don't want to lose you. And in that moment, them doing better is all they want in the world. So we start trying to, with everything that we have, because there's a threat to something very important to us, looming large. I like to compare ADHD (please try to imagine this) to having 20 channels all on (think picture in picture style) at the same time, with all of the sound coming out simultaneously at the same volume, and having to just make do with that to experience life. You, the non-ADHD spouse, might be able to change to the "laundry" channel for as long as you need, and change to the "kitchen" channel after. If "doing better" entails taking care of half the housework, without you having to make a list, and it's one day after you've told me you're leaving me, I am locking in on the "housework" channels and trying to tune out all others while they're still on. But I have 6 housework channels that I'm trying to stay locked in on, and 14 other channels on the same screen, at the same volume. I'm scared, and hurting, so my mind is saying "HOUSEWORK CHANNELS DUDE" and I'm using everything I have in me to stay on those only. EVERYTHING I have. Every now and then, the video game channel gets a glance, the baseball channel gets a glance, but my fear of losing the person I love so much locks me back on housework. In glancing at those other channels however briefly, or even in just trying to focus on 6 housework channels at once, I may have gotten all of the rooms picked up and the dishes started and the laundry switched over, but forgotten to empty one trash can (we have 5) and to put away the dishes. I can do that for a couple weeks, a month, and the fact that I'm trying resonates with you, and you start to relax. Once you relax, then you start telling me I'm not trying enough or I don't care enough because there were 2 or 3 things I forgot. then things start getting hairy. I'm already mentally drained from spending this seemingly unending amount of time trying to tune out everything else, I have been literally giving it my all, and you tell me i don't care or I'm lazy because I missed something. What I hear is "nothing you've done has meant anything, because you didn't do this" and my sense of pride in doing what you wanted and showing you I care is completely blown away. Like a house of cards in a hurricane. So you go off and do your thing, and I'm sitting there looking at all 20 channels, and I focus on the housework channels for a minute but I'm deflated and have lost a lot of hope. So the erotic channel or the hobby channel or the new subject channel all seem like they'll be much better able to provide me some comfort and some feeling of fulfillment. I start focusing on those. The whole Time, the housework channels are still on, still just as loud, still reminding me that once again I wasn't good enough for you. So I'm focused on the stuff that doesn't hurt as much, but aware that I'm not focused on what you asked from me. That makes me feel guilty, and worthless. So what does my brain do? "Housework channels hurt" and locks in even tighter on hobby channels. Before you know it, we're right back where we started.
ADHD spouse. Offering a different POV
Submitted by hvacdave84 on 04/18/2020.
Dear hvacdave84,
Submitted by Cherish on
Dear hvacdave84,
I am a former non-ADHD spouse and I wish I had know my ex-spouse had inattentive ADHD before I descended into situational depression followed by ultimate failure of our marriage. I still visit this forum to try and process what happened and to encourage those living the challenges that ADHD poses in the hope that maybe someone else’s relationship can be saved.
i chose the user name Cherish because I think if my ex-spouse had made a sincere effort to help me feel cherished, appreciated, supported, not alone, part of a team called “we” not just “me” then maybe we could have made it.
Good for you for trying. And be aware that even if you think your spouse “should know that you love them,” love is not enough. I think the traditional marriage vows that say “to love AND to cherish” are correct. Both spouses need to make an ongoing effort to please the other, to find out what is important to their spouse, and even if it is not important to you, to nonetheless make it important because that is how you show your love for your spouse. And if seeking out treatment would help you to continue to be able to meet your spouse’s requests for help then consider doing that. Let your spouse know you value her for the special unique person she is, not just for what she does for you. “I Hear You” by Michael Sorensen is a book that helped me understand how defensiveness affects communication and it might help you. Keep trying, because you want to please your spouse (not just because losing your spouse will affect YOU - try really hard to acknowledge and see things from your spouse’s viewpoint) and let your spouse know in words and deeds daily how much you appreciate her. And if you are a guy, be open-minded and non-defensive about the fact that traditional gender roles lead guys to unconsciously expect (and feel entitled to) having their wife handle the majority of the household duties. Try seeing yourself as being on the same team, working together to win, she’s the quarterback who calls the plays about housework and you execute the play. You need her and appreciate her and her part as your teammate is to let you know if something is forgotten, not to be angry about it. I know it is easier said than done. I’m sure the girl that loved you enough to marry you is still there under all that disappointment. Maybe you can win her back if you are able to show her (actions speak louder than words) on a daily basis. It is a lot of work and if you are not on treatment (therapy plus medication if needed) then make the effort to get treated for yourself and your family. I hope for the best for you and your family.
Hi Dave.....
Submitted by c ur self on
Are you an HVAC guy? I don't think adhd is the problem for most of the regular posters on this site....Many problems do stem from an elevated distraction level....But, usually none that can't be worked around when owned...It's quiet humbling to have mental, emotional, or physical problems, but it's just a fact of life for many of us humans...And the best way to run our spouse's off is to continually abuse them, by not owning what is causing the marriage relationship, and them personally, to suffer....
We all have our issues add or not...But the problem in most of the marriages (on the adhder's side) is the denial, the blame, the concession seeking, the refusal to calmly take ownership of their choice's... There are plenty of add/adhd men and women who own their thoughts, feelings and behaviors w/o excuse...And manage their lives in a way that don't force hardships on their spouse....Not taking ownership of our behaviors (add or not) is the real problem...It just starts a snowball effect...We aren't children who need right and wrong lessons....And humans never just set stagnant....The lack of ownership in one, is creating something in the other...It usually starts with conversation attempts, if that doesn't solve the excuse making and denial, then anxiety levels kick up....Angrily pointing out the behaviors...Talking at the same time, heated arguments...Everyone is different, but none of this will ever solve the problem, and none of it is good....Without calm ownership by both spouses, it's just a matter of time until the marital fellowship is going to break down, and it's down hill from there....
The way I see it...When any man or women makes a statement by their daily actions that say's I will always live an intrusive life style, as long as I have you in my present's, I'm going to force you to carry me in many of the responsibilities of life....I can't be counted on, or trusted.....Then that person is saying...I'm not fit to be in a marriage relationship...I'm only fit to live alone, so there is no one to dump on.???
My suggestion is to manage your life, like your wife walked off and left you with the kids....Don't even consider she exists.....All responsibility is totally on you.....In six months you want need to have any more conversations....You will know what you really love....
c
Thanks for sharing
Submitted by ZhayM on
Hvacdave,
I really appreciate you taking the time to type this out. I believe this is exactly what happens with my husband. I've told him it must be exhausting in his brain. In addition to not being able to filter and sustain attention, he has anxiety from childhood trauma. I was not as supportive and understanding as I probably should have been. But. I was supportive and understanding in a way that was never really returned. The amount of energy it took him to adult often seemed to overwhelm him. But we have two kids to take care of and I don't have the energy to manage myself, them, AND him. Especially when every few months he's throwing temper tantrums because life is so hard for him. Even though he didn't make choices that made it easier. His choices were based mostly on his feelings which is a very ineffective way to live. Hopefully, he will start making better choices and building better habits like taking his medication, getting enough sleep, and setting better boundaries. Hopefully, he'll learn to start living for himself instead of based on the expectations of others. Until then, I cannot live his life for him.
Side note: I wish the U.S. would recognize severe ADHD in adults as a disability and offer better resources. So many families and people are suffering because of the lack of education and support.