I googled the words "partnering with spouse who doesn't". And the first site that came up is add.org. with an article written by Melissa. She includes "Six steps to Nurturing A True Partnership." http://www.add.org/page/ADHDandMarriage All of this and Melissa's messages are about TWO people working together. One cannot do it alone in a RELATIONSHIP no matter how good a non-ADD spouse is at responses, no matter how hard ad ADDer tries, ONE person ALONE cannot do a partnership. We can each be whole people by ourselves but being a COUPLE means partnering.
I then read an article by Aasif Mandvi called "Everything I've Done in My Career Has Terrified Me" - Google it. "There have been many of those on my path toward success. I have spoken to people about collaboration with others and it’s true, nothing can be achieved without collaboration." I would suggest this reading...it is VERY inspiring morning reading.
Some of the quotes from the article: "I wake up everyday thinking about all the stuff I have failed at." ".....Mother Teresa. She is believed to have said: 'I do what I do, because there is a Hitler inside of me.' I love that quote because it sums up the human condition. It’s about integrating your dark and your light, it’s about doing battle with the thing in yourself that terrifies you the most, or the thing that you hate about yourself."
Those of us on these "self help" sites have a demon inside of us raging to make a change and we are gathering information to make that change. We have a discontentment brewing inside that wants to find the daring to have an effect on a difficult or uncomfortable situation. We have a need to be heard and we have a need for a community. There is something lacking in our lives and we are itching to fill that need. We WANT so terribly badly to have that need be filled by the person who promised to be a partner on our wedding day. It's not happening. Someone in our lives does not want to partner with us and we can't do it alone.
It seems the only people who have had some success including Melissa are those who have physically removed themselves from the lives of the ADDers at least for a time. It is the kick in the pants that gets the attention of the unaware partners. Our tears and cries for help seem to be annoyances to the ADDer who is focused on other things and believes our lives are fine the way they are if only we, the non-ADDer, would just be happy and talk nice and keep doing what we are doing.
I recommend reading the above article "Everything I've Done in My Career Has Terrified Me". Some of us have been on this site for literally years....sadly. This article gave me support to DO the things that are scarey. As he says, he "...fired the “voices of treason” in my head and I hired some new writers instead."
I am doing work on myself. It is all I can do. I must stop being a girl wanting to be rescued and grow up to be my own writer of my own story. I must stop being the victim and must change into the survivor - no into the proud, beautifully strong woman that I once was. That means having a voice in my own life. It means daring to go where i am afraid to go. It means speaking up and letting the chips fall where they may. I may not have a willing partner but I have a whole life to live.
My whole life
Submitted by jennalemone on
Do I even WANT a relationship with an uninterested (combative) partner? I used to ponder, what is wrong with ME that he is just not into partnering with me? I have to let it all go....I have to live my life with some heart and purpose. My purpose will now be to be the most real I can be inside and out. That means talking and doing rather than thinking and praying and hoping. It is time for me to make the effort to have more people in my life with NO expectations of my ADD spouse.
This is hard to do when, like
Submitted by AlmaVera on
This is hard to do when, like you said, you thought you were in a partnership. But yes, you will find love and companionship because of who you are. If your partner is not trying or is not committed, the thing you must remember is that this is a reflection on him, not you. And that is true whether a partner has ADHD or not. Look at any blog or website with relationship advice. All you can do is be the best you. And that doesn't mean making yourself small to make someone else less insecure, or killing your dreams because they're not important to someone else, or giving up your happiness because someone else chooses to give up his or hers.
But your first post is inspiring. I will read that article you suggested. I have made a ton of changes in my life in the last few years since my marriage ended, but my last relationship showed me I still have a ways to go. Especially with learning my worth, and not being afraid to stand up for it -- even with my flaws and baggage. Who doesn't have flaws and baggage? Nobody! Therefore, we all deserve a shot at happiness and love. Yes, it's scary, and nobody walks into something hoping for hurt or rejection or failure. But we can't really live if we try to avoid everything that could go wrong. Some of my proudest moments were when I just said "You know what? F it -- I don't care if I get laughed at." It's very freeing to get to that point. I may fly or I may fall, I don't know yet -- but I will at least try.
Alma Vera
Submitted by kellyj on
I'm signing out for a while to get back at it.....the managing things including the time one....it's a big one for me so I need to stay on it..."no try do." As Yoda said. Yeah, I'm a geek. lol
Anyway...one more comment to what you said about the F it thing. You speaking my lingo now and I know this one too...all too well. I get my best inspirations when I get that way and it works great for motivation but......I've found the key is to say F it to myself but not show that to anyone else meaning.....passive aggression is something that I have mastered but the problem with it is.....the other person ( or people ) have no idea what the problem is and or why your being that way. I've gotten myself into trouble with that even though it does feel good sometimes. lol
That's the problem
If I had to guess....that's what jennalemone is seeing from her partner and he isn't saying anything. It's a poor way of communicating why you are upset to say the least!
Also....I posted more about Dr Amen's test and what I came up with in the progress section since we were discussing it. I know that you and s00manyquestions are on a similar journey so I wanted to thank you and say that you might find some of what I said interesting in light of some our shared things in common.
Anyway...good luck with all things and thanks for sharing.
peace
J
Thanks, J -- I'm hoping you
Submitted by AlmaVera on
Thanks, J -- I'm hoping you're not gone for good! I will read your post about taking Dr. Amen's test, too.
Oh, don't worry -- the "F it" was meant totally for me. That upbringing I told you about, plus a lot of teasing and bullying through school and after, left me with pretty overwhelming fears of humiliation and rejection. They just got worse when my ex-husband started adding on. I was taught that I didn't have a right to express anger or fear or hurt, so I know that I either stuffed a lot inside or it came out in passive-aggressive ways. In the last couple of years, I had to realize that never taking chances or expressing true feelings didn't really help me much to prevent the pain I was trying to avoid.
So, that left me with two options...either keep on the road I was already traveling, or decide that I might as well make the most of the new beginning I had been given (against my will). Because I started to look at things I'd always been afraid to do, and said "F it" instead of "Oh I will be so humiliated when I blow it," I found I was actually more successful than I ever thought! It's led me to embrace parts of myself I never even knew I had. :) Now trying to get that attitude to help me with things I don't enjoy... I haven't mastered that yet, lol.
I am still getting used to actually speaking out my feelings openly and honestly, and not being afraid that I will get 'punished.' There will always be people who I won't 'mesh' with. I don't have to.
What's most important to me is to be true to who I am. I want be more kind, more compassionate, more aware of my world, and more knowledgeable. I don't see anything that tells me I can't do those things, with or without ADHD, or post-concussion. I also want to be a good example to my son. I've already started talking about it to him a bit, just regarding myself. If he does get an ADHD diagnosis, too, I don't want him to feel ashamed of it or to feel like it puts some automatic limit on him.
Thanks for all of your encouragement, J. Good luck to you, too!
AV
I Had to Say....
Submitted by kellyj on
you took the words right out of mouth....everyone of them. me too....all the same. I just came back in from working and was shutting my computer off..Okay...gotta run.
Thanks....back at you.
J
AV I Thought Everything You Said........
Submitted by kellyj on
all last night and couldn't stop wanting to come back and respond despite what I said about taking a break. It occurred to me that I'm not trusting myself enough to do things differently and am making things an either or.....saying that my time management does not have to be based on not doing things at all in fear of my tendencies and finding ways to do things differently and still do what I want at the same time. So...here I am back to try this differently.....being more succinct with my responses (now that I have accomplished what I came here for initially) and work on other ADHD related stuff like time management and communication. Whether that was your intent or not...this was the effect it had on my thinking....Thanks for that! lol
What you said " I was taught that I didn't have a right to express anger or fear or hurt, so I know that I either stuffed a lot inside or it came out in passive-aggressive ways. In the last couple of years, I had to realize that never taking chances or expressing true feelings didn't really help me much to prevent the pain I was trying to avoid. yes, me too....especially " the fear of speaking up in fear of being punished."
" instead of "Oh I will be so humiliated when I blow it," I found I was actually more successful than I ever thought! It's led me to embrace parts of myself I never even knew I had. :) Now trying to get that attitude to help me with things I don't enjoy... I haven't mastered that yet, lo Replace "humiliated" with fear of "faliure". I think it's the same thing. I had to get over the humiliation part because of the things I wanted to do years ago but....I also convinced myself that I would fail in cases just like I did yesterday with my time management. I will fail at being succinct and taking too much time so I can't do this at all. So here I am...practicing to do it differently. Thx for that.
In return.....I wanted to add to what you said by saying it differently too...for the same reason for you possibly? Get use to it ( the embracing part)...in other words. You may still feel the fear of humiliation even to the point that you might feel humiliated for no good reason ( more in your head ) when in reality.....being judged or seen critically most likely isn't even a thought on anyone else's mind. Either way...the point being. Learn to live with those feelings and doing things anyway. Not letting those feelings stop you from trying again even if they return....they may always be there but they won't always feel the same once you invite them in to join the party...so to speak. That and as you get more success at living with the feelings of failure ( or humiliation ) or whatever you are afraid of. they really do shrink down to a point where you can say F it to those to. I get it...but more importantly...when this has happened for me, the feelings that things are "against my will" also shrink or disappear too. Just something to look forward to! lol
Thx again for reminding me to keep trying at what I am the worst at.....being succinct! how'd I do?? LOL
J
You Go Girl !
Submitted by kellyj on
ditto lol
Also...I liked what you said somewhere?....about the writing. For what it's worth....I find it to be a useful way sometimes to get it out of me and move on to the things at hand. Like you said....more doing and less of everything else. I hear you and I'm with you on that.
J
Yet....
Submitted by jennalemone on
Yet, I am somewhat afraid of this person who comes and goes in our home not speaking, not sharing, just looking at me like he hates me. This is not a good way to spend a whole life.
I Commend What You are Doing For Yourself
Submitted by kellyj on
If you can stay true to your goal despite the negative static coming from this outside source ( unnamed entity )...you will be a stronger and happier person in the long run. I'm concerned about why you are afraid...but if it's not physically speaking then I still stand on what I said. Sometimes it only takes one person in the relationship to make a change for the better...sometimes, the other will follow if you take the lead. There's no guarantee but then again....the only one between the two of you that you can do anything about is you. I applaud your attitude and the courage to do it. That's why I made the comment.
J