I ran across something that really resonated with me? This is one of those things I have no explanation for, but I recognized this very strongly as I went down the list that I discovered? One of those things you know already...just like when I first read about ADHD and went....wow, I think I'm on to something. Has anyone heard of such a thing being associated with ADHD? Really, the only one that really stood out as opposite was 28 but for the opposite reason? I am drawn to antiques because of that energy attraction. Almost a sense of immediate "continuity" and energy flow, rather than anything I can say I shy away from? It's the continuity from the past to the present, that creates the flow in the first place. I can sense the energy from the past person or owner say....especially in the tools I use for work? Drawing from it instead of taking away? Very much to do with objects in a strange but positive way? I'm really curious now, what this all means? It seems like this energy or ability to use it, has not been channeled and I might make better use of it if I knew how? Any thoughts on the matter? I know it's kind of strange? It's that thing where you know things, without actually knowing how?
What is an empath?
Being an empath is when you are affected by other people’s energies, and have an innate ability to intuitively feel and perceive others. Your life is unconsciously influenced by others’ desires, wishes, thoughts, and moods. Being an empath is much more than being highly sensitive and it’s not just limited to emotions. Empaths can perceive physical sensitivities and spiritual urges, as well as just knowing the motivations and intentions of other people. You either are an empath or you aren’t. It’s not a trait that is learned. You are always open, so to speak, to process other people’s feelings and energy, which means that you really feel, and in many cases take on the emotions of others. Many empaths experience things like chronic fatigue, environmental sensitivities, or unexplained aches and pains daily. These are all things that are more likely to be contributed to outside influences and not so much yourself at all. Essentially you are walking around in this world with all of the accumulated karma, emotions, and energy from others.
Empaths are often quiet achievers. They can take a while to handle a compliment for they’re more inclined to point out another’s positive attributes. They are highly expressive in all areas of emotional connection, and talk openly, and, at times quite frankly. They may have few problems talking about their feelings if another cares to listen (regardless of how much they listen to others).
However, they can be the exact opposite: reclusive and apparently unresponsive at the best of times. They may even appear ignorant. Some are very good at “blocking out” others and that’s not always a bad thing, at least for the learning empath struggling with a barrage of emotions from others, as well as their own feelings.
Empaths have a tendency to openly feel what is outside of them more so than what is inside of them. This can cause empaths to ignore their own needs. In general an empath is non-violent, non-aggressive and leans more towards being the peacemaker. Any area filled with disharmony creates an uncomfortable feeling in an empath. If they find themselves in the middle of a confrontation, they will endeavor to settle the situation as quickly as possible, if not avoid it all together. If any harsh words are expressed in defending themselves, they will likely resent their lack of self-control, and have a preference to peacefully resolve the problem quickly.
Empaths are more inclined to pick up another’s feelings and project it back without realizing its origin in the first place. Talking things out is a major factor in releasing emotions in the learning empath. Empaths can develop an even stronger degree of understanding so that they can find peace in most situations. The downside is that empaths may bottle up emotions and build barriers sky-high so as to not let others know of their innermost thoughts and/or feelings. This withholding of emotional expression can be a direct result of a traumatic experience, an expressionless upbringing, or simply being told as a child, “Children are meant to be seen and not heard!”
Without a doubt, this emotional withholding can be detrimental to one’s health, for the longer one’s thoughts and/or emotions aren’t released, the more power they build. The thoughts and/or emotions can eventually becoming explosive, if not crippling. The need to express oneself honestly is a form of healing and a choice open to all. To not do so can result in a breakdown of the person and result in mental/emotional instability or the creation of a physical ailment, illness or disease.
Empaths are sensitive to TV, videos, movies, news and broadcasts. Violence or emotional dramas depicting shocking scenes of physical or emotional pain inflicted on adults, children or animals can bring an empath easily to tears. At times, they may feel physically ill or choke back the tears. Some empaths will struggle to comprehend any such cruelty, and may have grave difficulty in expressing themselves in the face of another’s ignorance, closed-mindedness and obvious lack of compassion. They simply cannot justify the suffering they feel and see.
You will find empaths working with people, animals or nature with a true passion and dedication to help them. They are often tireless teachers and/or caretakers for our environment and all within it. Many volunteers are empathic and give up personal time to help others without pay and/or recognition.
Empaths may be excellent storytellers due to an endless imagination, inquisitive minds and ever-expanding knowledge. They can be old romantics at heart and very gentle. They may also be the “keepers” of ancestral knowledge and family history. If not the obvious family historians, they may be the ones who listen to the stories passed down and possess the majority of the family history. Not surprisingly, they may have started or possess a family tree.
They have a broad interest in music to suit their many expressive temperaments, and others can query how empaths can listen to one style of music, and within minutes, change to something entirely different. Lyrics within a song can have adverse, powerful effects on empaths, especially if it is relevant to a recent experience. In these moments, it is advisable for empaths to listen to music without lyrics, to avoid playing havoc with their emotions!
They are just as expressive with body language as with words, thoughts, and feelings. Their creativity is often expressed through dance, acting, and bodily movements. Empaths can project an incredible amount of energy portraying and/or releasing emotion. Empaths can become lost in the music, to the point of being in a trance-like state; they become one with the music through the expression of their physical bodies. They describe this feeling as a time when all else around them is almost non-existent.
People of all walks of life and animals are attracted to the warmth and genuine compassion of empaths. Regardless of whether others are aware of one being empathic, people are drawn to them as a metal object is to a magnet!
Even complete strangers find it easy to talk to empaths about the most personal things, and before they know it, they have poured out their hearts and souls without intending to do so consciously. It is as though on a sub-conscious level that person knows instinctively that empaths would listen with compassionate understanding. Then again, for empaths, it is always nice to actually be heard themselves!
Here are the listeners of life. They can be outgoing, bubbly, enthusiastic and a joy to be in the presence of, as well as highly humorous at the most unusual moments! On the flip side, empaths can be weighted with mood swings that will have others around them want to jump overboard and abandon ship! The thoughts and feelings empaths receive from any and all in their life can be so overwhelming (if not understood) that their moods can fluctuate with lightning speed. One moment they may be delightfully happy and with a flick of the switch, miserable.
Abandoning an empath in the throes of alternating moods can create detrimental effects. A simple return of empathic love–listening and caring compassionately without bias, judgment and/or condemnation–can go an incredibly long way to an empath’s instant recovery. Many empaths don’t understand what is occurring within them. They literally have no idea that another person’s emotions are now felt, as one’s own and reflected outwardly. They are confused as to how one moment all was well, and then the next, they feel so depressed, alone, etc. The need to understand the possibilities of empath connection is a vital part of the empaths journey for themselves and for those around them.
Empaths are often problem solvers, thinkers, and studiers of many things. As far as empaths are concerned, where a problem is, so too is the answer. They often will search until they find one – if only for peace of mind. This can certainly prove beneficial for others in their relationships, in the workplace, or on the home front. Where there is a will, there is a way and the empath will find it. The empath can literally (likely without the knowledge of what’s actually occurring) tap into Universal Knowledge and be receptive to guidance in solving anything they put their head and hearts into.
Empaths often are vivid and/or lucid dreamers. They can dream in detail and are inquisitive of dream content. Often they feel as though the dreams are linked to their physical life somehow, and not just a mumble of nonsensical, irrelevant, meaningless images. This curiosity will lead many empathic dreamers to unravel some of the “mysterious” dream contents from an early age and connect the interpretation to its relevance in their physical life. If not, they may be led to dream interpretations through other means.
Empaths are daydreamers with difficulty keeping focused on the mundane. If life isn’t stimulating, off an empath will go into a detached state of mind. They will go somewhere, anywhere, in a thought that appears detached from the physical reality, yet is alive and active for they really are off and away. If a tutor is lecturing with little to no emotional input, empaths will not be receptive to such teaching and can (unintentionally) drift into a state of daydreaming.
Give the empath student the tutor who speaks with stimuli and emotion (through actual experience of any given subject) and the empath is receptively alert. Empaths are a captivated audience. This same principle applies in acting. An actor will either captivate the audience through expressing (in all aspects) emotions (as though they really did experience the role they are portraying) or will loose them entirely. Empaths make outstanding actors.
Empaths frequently experience déjà vu and synchronicities. What may initially start as, “Oh, what a coincidence”, will lead to the understanding of synchronicities as an aspect of who they are. These synchronicities will become a welcomed and continually expanding occurrence. As an understanding of self grows, the synchronicities become more fluent and free flowing. The synchronicities can promote a feeling of euphoria as empaths identify with them and appreciate the connection to their empathic nature.
Empaths are most likely to have had varying paranormal experiences throughout their lives. NDE’s (Near death experiences) and or OBE’s (Out of body experiences) can catapult an unaware empath into the awakening period and provide the momentum for a journey of discovery. Those who get caught up in life, in society’s often dictating ways, in work etc., can become lost in a mechanical way of living that provides very little meaning. All “signs of guidance” are ignored to shift out of this state of “doing”. A path to being whole again becomes evident and a search for more meaning in one’s life begins.
These types of experiences appear dramatic, can be life-altering indeed, and are most assuredly just as intensely memorable in years to come. They are the voice of guidance encouraging us to pursue our journey in awareness. Sometimes, some of us require that extra assistance!
For some empaths, the lack of outside understanding towards paranormal events they experience, may lead to suppressing such abilities. (Most of these abilities are very natural and not a coincidence.) Empaths may unknowingly adopt the positive or negative attitude of others as their own. (This, however, can be overcome.) Empaths may need to follow interests in the paranormal and the unexplained with curiosity so as to explain and accept their life circumstances.
Here are 30 of the most common traits:
1. Knowing: Empaths just know stuff, without being told. It’s a knowing that goes way beyond intuition or gut feelings, even though that is how many would describe the knowing. The more attuned they are the stronger this gift becomes.
2. Being in public places can be overwhelming: Places like shopping malls, supermarkets or stadiums where there are lots of people around can fill the empath with turbulently vexed emotions that are coming from others.
3. Feeling others emotions and taking them on as your own: This is a huge one for empaths. To some they will feel emotions off those near by and with others they will feel emotions from those a vast distance away, or both. The more adept empath will know if someone is having bad thoughts about them, even from great distance.
4. Watching violence, cruelty or tragedy on the TV is unbearable: The more attuned an empath becomes the worse it is and may make it so they eventually have to stop watching TV and reading newspapers altogether.
5. You know when someone is not being honest: If a friend or a loved one is telling you lies you know it (although many empaths try not to focus on this because knowing a loved one is lying can be painful). Or if someone is saying one thing but feeling/thinking another, you know.
6. Picking up physical symptoms off another: An empath will almost always develop the ailments off another (colds, eye infections, body aches and pains) especially those they’re closest to, somewhat like sympathy pains.
7. Digestive disorders and lower back problems: The solar plexus chakra is based in the centre of the abdomen and it’s known as the seat of emotions. This is where empaths feel the incoming emotion of another, which can weaken the area and eventually lead to anything from stomach ulcers to IBS (too many other conditions to list here). Lower back problems can develop from being ungrounded (amongst other things) and one, who has no knowledge of them being an empath, will almost always be ungrounded.
8. Always looking out for the underdog: Anyone whose suffering, in emotional pain or being bullied draws an empath’s attention and compassion.
9. Others will want to offload their problems on you, even strangers: An empath can become a dumping ground for everyone else’s issues and problems, which, if they’re not careful can end up as their own.
10. Constant fatigue: Empaths often get drained of energy, either from energy vampires or just taking on too much from others, which even sleep will not cure. Many get diagnosed with ME.
11. Addictive personality: Alcohol, drugs, sex, are to name but a few addictions that empaths turn to, to block out the emotions of others. It is a form of self protection in order to hide from someone or something.
12. Drawn to healing, holistic therapies and all things metaphysical: Although many empaths would love to heal others they can end up turning away from being healers (even though they have a natural ability for it), after they’ve studied and qualified, because they take on too much from the one they are trying to heal. Especially if they are unaware of their empathy. Anything of a supernatural nature is of interest to empaths and they don’t surprise or get shocked easily. Even at the revelation of what many others would consider unthinkable, for example, empaths would have known the world was round when others believed it was flat.
13. Creative: From singing, dancing, acting, drawing or writing an empath will have a strong creative streak and a vivid imagination.
14. Love of nature and animals: Being outdoors in nature is a must for empaths and pets are an essential part of their life.
15. Need for solitude: An empath will go stir-crazy if they don’t get quiet time. This is even obvious in empathic children.
16. Gets bored or distracted easily if not stimulated: Work, school and home life has to be kept interesting for an empath or they switch off from it and end up daydreaming or doodling.
17. Finds it impossible to do things they don’t enjoy: As above. Feels like they are living a lie by doing so. To force an empath to do something they dislike through guilt or labelling them as idle will only serve in making them unhappy. It’s for this reason many empaths get labelled as being lazy.
18. Strives for the truth: This becomes more prevalent when an empath discovers his/her gifts and birthright. Anything untruthful feels plain wrong.
19. Always looking for the answers and knowledge: To have unanswered questions can be frustrating for an empath and they will endeavour to find an explanation. If they have a knowing about something they will look for confirmation. The downside to this is an information overload.
20. Likes adventure, freedom and travel: Empaths are free spirits.
21. Abhors clutter: It makes an empath feel weighed down and blocks the flow of energy.
22. Loves to daydream: An empath can stare into space for hours, in a world of their own and blissfully happy.
23. Finds routine, rules or control, imprisoning: Anything that takes away their freedom is debilitating to an empath even poisoning.
24. Prone to carry weight without necessarily overeating: The excess weight is a form of protection to stop the negative incoming energies having as much impact.
25. Excellent listener: An empath won’t talk about themselves much unless it’s to someone they really trust. They love to learn and know about others and genuinely care.
26. Intolerance to narcissism: Although kind and often very tolerant of others, empaths do not like to be around overly egotistical people, who put themselves first and refuse to consider another’s feelings or points of view other than their own.
27. The ability to feel the days of the week: An empath will get the ‘Friday Feeling’ if they work Fridays or not. They pick up on how the collective are feeling. The first couple of days of a long, bank holiday weekend (Easter for example) can feel, to them, like the world is smiling, calm and relaxed. Sunday evenings, Mondays and Tuesdays, of a working week, have a very heavy feeling.
28. Will not choose to buy antiques, vintage or second-hand: Anything that’s been pre-owned carries the energy of the previous owner. An empath will even prefer to have a brand new car or house (if they are in the financial situation to do so) with no residual energy.
29. Sense the energy of food: Many empaths don’t like to eat meat or poultry because they can feel the vibrations of the animal (especially if the animal suffered), even if they like the taste.
30. Can appear moody, shy, aloof, disconnected: Depending on how an empath is feeling will depend on what face they show to the world. They can be prone to mood swings and if they’ve taken on too much negative will appear quiet and unsociable, even miserable. An empath detests having to pretend to be happy when they’re sad, this only adds to their load (makes working in the service industry, when it’s service with a smile, very challenging) and can make them feel like scuttling under a stone.
I don't have ADHD, but I am
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
I don't have ADHD, but I am an empath and a highly sensitive person (HSP). Being an empath, for me, is exhausting. I absorb the energy of the people around me and in some circumstances I'm not able to tell the difference between other people's feelings and my own. Empaths are supposed to be able to learn to shield themselves from others feelings and emotions. I have been successful at shielding myself to a certain extent. I can shield myself in large groups of strangers such as a concert or the mall. However, I can't shield myself from acquaintances, friends, and family members.
I used to attend a church that had a very emotional preacher. His sermons evoked a lot of emotion from the entire congregation. I was so exhausted at the end of every church service from taking in all of the emotions, I would have to go to bed and sleep for several hours as soon as I got home from church.
I am especially sensitive to my husband and children's feelings and emotions. I feel as though I can sense the ADHD in my husband and my son's brains. Even though they both have relaxed and slow going personalities, I feel a constant discontentment from them. It's as if they are always thinking and searching for something that they don't have. It's really exhausting for me.
I lived in a very small town (population 2,000) for about eight years. That little town had an overall negative vibe. I hated every minute of living there. I don't know exactly what it was, but there were only a couple of people in the whole town that gave off positive energy. I was finally able to move away from there.
These are just some of my experiences as an empath.
As for my husband (ADHD), I don't think he's an empath. However, he has a very close connection to animals and nature. Animals are drawn to him. People are also drawn to tell him their problems. Friends, family, acquaintances, and even strangers are compelled to tell him their problems. Even people that he encounters very briefly, one minute ore less, find a way to unload their problems on him. He seems to give off an energy that people and animals are drawn to and feel safe with.
I have never brought up being an empath on this board because many people aren't open to the idea.
I just wanted to add that
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
I just wanted to add that many people believe that empathic abilities are developed as a survival mechanism for those that are the victims of emotional abuse.
Empaths are also known to attract emotional abusers, such as narcissists. Many empaths have a hard time finding healthy relationships.
Not disagreeing, not agreeing, but some tips...
Submitted by smd1409 on
I don't disagree or agree, there are just some psychological aspects you need to consider when thinking about these things.
Human flaw 1: we like to feel as though we are good people. I remember this person being mentioned in an article, talking about how she was annoyed at all these charity workers for coming to her door. Her reasoning was that she recycles things and does things every now and again and that should be enough for her. To another person her view of what counts as enough is a completely different level. So when you see something that tries to lure you by saying you're a good person, even when someone is complimenting you, take it with a pinch of salt.
Flaw 2: we find it hard to differentiate between ambiguous and specific phrases. Think 'you are aware of others emotions all the time' as to 'when someone trips over, the pain you feel is so much that you will jump to their aid in less than a second'. The first you can think of many times where you were aware of another's emotion, however what frequency counts S enough for you to think that you can be categorised as such? This is a very unstable definition, whereas the second statement gives you a time frame and situation for you to judge your actions by, making it much harder to categorise yourself as one.
Flaw 3: who we think we are and who we actually are, are two different things. Take a random personality test. See what you get, then have others who you believe are close to you take the same personality test, but judging you rather than themselves. Unless the personality test is very generalise (see flaw 2, also only like 3 types of personalities compared to 10 for example) you will find that how people see your personality is completely different from how you see yours. It's why an ADHD diagnosis relies not only on your experiences but on the experiences of another related to you in order to support the diagnosis.
Flaw 4: there's a well-known psychological flaw where people see themselves as being better than others at the qualities they want. Studies where people thought they were more observant than others, studies where they thought they were better people than others, even studies where they thought their selfies were more sincere and than others. (80% of people believed their selfies were sincere and that the selfies of others weren't!) Think about how many people say the world is corrupt- if that is the case, and you are part of this world, doesn't that make you just as corrupt as them? Why are you the outlier?
When you combine all these different flaws (as well as others which I'm sure can be examined and applied onto this category as well as other tests), you find that many other them will of course make sense from your point of view.
I'm not saying that this isn't accurate once again; I didn't see the need to label myself as an empath because the very name suggested I was a good person, the disadvantage and possibility that it might cause me to act less of a good person by making me satisfied with who I am outweighs the help I might find with it in other things (i.e. applying it to find my perfect job). I'll let you break it down as to whether you think it's statements are specific enough to trust and whether you are capable of judging yourself in this matter.
This is a very interesting
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
This is a very interesting perspective on empathy. Everyone has flaws. There's no doubt about that. However, in my experience, being an empath has nothing to do with being annoyed by others, jumping out of your seat when someone trips, or admiring selphies. We can agree to disagree. :)
Sorry, I meant nothing by it.
Submitted by smd1409 on
My comment on this post was not to criticise it whatsoever. Apologies if that was what it looked like. I meant to supply the information necessary to make judgments about how to tell whether this and things related to this can be trustworthy or not in general. The 'flaws' I stated are applicable to everyday life but especially to things like these (empaths) so it's a sort of checklist you can use to make sure you follow the reliable ones and aren't mislead by the unreliable ones.
No harm. No foul.
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
No harm. No foul.
I can see how the list that J posted could be perceived as elitest if you've never experienced these things. Being an empath is 100% about energy. It's sensing the energy around you. The energy might come from the earth, from nature, from animals, from objects, from strangers, from friends and family, or from the deceased. I don't claim to have all of these abilities, but I understand the concept because I have experienced some of it. Being an empath isn't always considered a gift. It can be debilitating for some .
Being an empath isn't measurable or visible, so it's hard for some people to understand. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Some are more measurable than others.
From my observations, one of the most difficult aspects of having ADHD is that it is a condition that isn't readily accepted or understood by society. Being an empath is very much the same way.
Hopeful Heart ....Energy
Submitted by kellyj on
You nailed it precisely. It's just sensing energy is all it is? And is really unemotional or has not rhyme or reason to it? Like you said, from them earth, from nature, from animals, from objects, from strangers, from friends and family or from the deceased. I might say that last one differently as you worded it? It is not...actively sensing things from the deceased, but it's like what energy they "left" there...or left behind? I am still not convinced or believe in "ghosts"...and since this involves sensing...other than "seeing" smelling' "hearing" but through direct contact with "things"....the only two senses that involve that is "touch" and "taste". The only two times that "direct contact" is made with an object? However, this things about places or visiting places is really a big one for me? There are two times that stand out that I can use as an example of this? And this might even dispute the notion or "haunted houses" just to be sure?
One time, I was visiting a really remote area of Oregon where I live..and I was traveling by boat up a very long reservoir nearly 50 miles long. This is one of the most remote locations you can possibly get to and there is nothing else around it and no one lives there since it is so remote. Other than a State Park at one end where the dam is, the farther you go up river...the further you are from civilization? Myself and my ex -wife were making our way up river, when we came to a place that looked like a good one to camp with a good area to land a boat and good amount of flat ground around to make camp and move around in? It was at the base of some shear cliffs and it looked like a perfect place to camp the for the night? But as we came right to the shore and even just before we landed, I got this very strange feeling about this place...almost "ominous" for not reason what so ever? It looked like the perfect place to set up camp so I we just proceeded to land and set up the camp area? But I couldn't shake this odd feeling like something was not quite right? I had this sense, that it was not a good place to be....but yet, it was the perfect place to camp and for no other reason...it I just had a bad vibe about it? After I started exploring around and just checking it out...I came upon what looked like the remnants of an old foundation or home stead that use to be there...and all that was left was the over grown remnant or foundation of some kind of building? As it turned out...and for no other reason....my ex-wife was deathly afraid of snakes...and in the morning first thing when I woke up, I saw something moving towards our camp site in the grass and started to investigate? We also had two dogs with us, but they were still inside the tent with my wife? When I came upon what was moving through the grass...it was a very large snake making it's way towards the water, and our tent was between the snake and the water and I went "uh oh... this is not going to be good!! " LOL So I grabbed a stick, and and got in underneath this snake, and was frantically trying to move it over and out of the path of the water so my ex-wife or the dogs wouldn't see it there for obvious reasons.LOL So I got this 4 foot snake with a stick and finally was able to move it over about 15 yards away from our camp, and set it down to be on it's way to the water which appeared what it was after in the first place? And as I am walking a back over to the camp I see something else moving in the grass but only now coming down from the cliff base again...and I went "uh oh.....not another one???" LOL Sure enough, it was another ( Bull Snake ) which they are pretty big and fat but are no poisonous at all? They aren't any threat to humans but they appeared not to be too threatened by me picking them up like I did? So now, and am scurrying around and trying to get this second snake..and I hear my ex-wife getting up and climbing out of the tent with dogs right after here and she's going "what's going out out there??" and me going...." Oh ..nothing, nothing at all just exploring around" lol It took a minute or two to climb out, but it was too soon before I got this second snake out of sight, so she climbs out of the tent to see me with this 4 foot snake on a stick..and just standing there going "Look what I found honey...how cool is this???" LOL In my ex-wife's mind, it was NOT so cool!!! LOL I actully made her get a picture of me and the snake, that she was not too keen about at all? The end result was ...we were moving and not staying there another night as we planned! LOL I didn't tell her about the first snake since the point was moot at that time!! LOL No need to poor gas on the fire since, my ex really loved to camp, she just didn't like snakes!!! LOL And I thought that was probably best for all concerned but that was her reason for leaving? Mine, which I didn't share with her, was this feeling that we didn't belong there and there was something from the past, that was still left there in that energy? When we got back to the State Park and I talked to the ranger there and asked, he said it was an old home stead from the 1800's but the family was attacked and killed by the local Native Americans and why it was left abandoned and left to decay? That was a really weird thing to experience since....I had no idea why I felt that something was wrong with that place...but as it turned out...something bad did happen there a very long time ago? I could sense that it was, but didn't know why at the time? That sense said...."don't go here"....even if it was the perfect place to camp which is was...and for the same reason...why the home steaders picked that spot as well? Weird huh?
The only time that really stood out..was going to the Little Big Horn...where Custer and him men all died? It was one of the most incredible and Erie feelings I have ever had in the same sense that I could feel the left over energy...as well as they had little crosses laid out where each person was found and died so I could see where every one was killed all laid out in front me? This is not at all, like being afraid of "spirits" or "ghosts" if you understand it? It's not even fear as much, as just a sense that energy that was left there" Saying, it's not alive...and there are no "ghosts" or anything like that ( a popular believe as a scary or horror story ) It's not like that at all in the exact same way as the other story? It's just a confirming feeling, that someone's past energy had been left or made a mark there that I could tell....not that they died....but only that they had been there? That's all it is really....like some energy that was other than just the ground and the dirt and plants all around? Something that didn't belong to the plants, the ground or the the environment? Something different...other than that energy but nothing more than that? It's just a sense is all? In fact, I have been in a lot of different cemeteries in my life, and old and new for what ever reason...there is no energy from deceased people? Cemeteries...do not do this..and I get no sense from them? This is "live energy" that still exists...left over from live people from the past? By the time they put you in a cemetery...you;ve been dead for a while? No energy. No sensing of live energy which is always the case? I got the same "ominous feeling"....from visiting Dochau which was one of the more famous concentration camps from the Holocaust in Munich Germany. They say over 32,000 people died there, and I had a chance to sneak through an open gate into the camp one time when it was officially closed to the public and walk around inside until a maintenance man yelled out since I was not suppose to be there. Again, I was drawn in and was sensing something "bad" or "not right" about that place...which was this exact same feeling as before and the other times as well? If you were to ask me based just on this feeling, and say the the Holocaust was a hoax.....I would say you were wrong, just based on this feeling and nothing else to go on? In the case of Dochau and the Little Big Horn.....you already knew it was documented and true? In the case of the remote home stead on the river reservoir....I had no idea anyone had been there before, until I found the remnants of the old home stead building? Same feeling...with no explanation or even previous knowledge of the event that took place there? It really isn't anything to be afraid of yet....it's just uncomfortable? No specters ghost or manifestations...which I am still doubting very much as still alive or left there but what do I know? Maybe they are and I just can't see them? Maybe I really am trespassing on someone else property as put? It really doesn't frighten me or make me afraid of things that aren't there, and if lets just say for fun the there are left over spirits of dead people left here....I don't really mind or care? They aren't harming me and I'm still not buying they they have any power do do anything in just the state of left over energy? I cannot even guess, what this all means but yet....I can tell the difference....that's all I know? As far as what I feel from it...it's just like an emotion or any other feeling...it's just there to tell you something or signal you, that there is something else there? A different energy, that all the rest in the surroundings that should be there, and that is the difference? But more over, it can be draining. It's just not comfortable, which is why it feels kind of ominous? That';s the only way to describe it.....but putting "intention" and looking for some kind of explanation as to why is where your imagination can run wild sometimes? I think it's more of the fear of it that's draining....it is not anything to do with what is outside of you that is causing that physical effect? If you are one to place a lot of validity in ghost stories...it might cause a lot of anxiety and stress? It tend to be drawn to it...which in some ways connects me...or makes that feeling of continuity to the place....but after all, do you really want to hang out...where people have died? In my case, we use to hang out in this one pioneer cemetery as kids and even later in my teens as a place to get away from people and just hang out in a serene place..and after a while, that initial un-comfortableness goes away and it's no different than any other place? No big deal right? But not in the case where that left over live energy was. It was live, at the time, before and up to the point that the person or people died in that spot. That seemingly from my experience...doesn't go away? I think if you let your imagination run wild, is the only time it makes a difference. There are no sights, sounds or anything moving. You can hear it, smell it, tastes it or touch it and so....it's simply energy of a different kind, and nothing to be afraid of. Nothing to be afraid of, and it won't hurt you. That's all I know, until I know more or better?
J
Thank you for sharing your
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Thank you for sharing your story. I'm like you. I don't feel any energy in cemeteries. I had never given it much thought. That is an excellent point, about the energy being gone before the bodies reach the cemetery. I don't really believe in ghosts. As a Christian, I don't think I'm supposed to explore such things. However, I have had experiences that I can't explain. They weren't scary or disturbing experiences, just out of the ordinary.
I'm glad to know someone else that senses energy. There aren't that many of us.
What's Interesting Here...
Submitted by kellyj on
As you said, as a Christian, you're not suppose to explore such things which made me pause and think about this for moment? I've hear that before from some people, but even in my upbringing as a Christian, that one never came up? Or if it did, I don't remember or it didn't stick with me? And in all my entertaining these ideas and just going off of my own feelings about it....I just arrived on my own that trying to conjure up supernatural things was mostly just "wishful thinking" and looking for things that don't exist? I think this where....almost the opposite thing happens sometimes? You tell someone....not to do it, and immediately you start to question why? It almost, confirms that there is something like this out there, and it's a sign or warning...not to dabble in things "as if"....there really is something out there like that, and now you are opening the door to it and inviting that "demon" into your living room or something? I hear that language all the time especially on radio or TV ministry shows ( and faith healers ) as such? More the charismatic types who speak in tongues and all that stuff? And I had a really confirming story one time, coming from one of these people who believed that a exorcized demon was running around inside a retreat cabin he was staying in out in the woods one time, and he was there for one night alone, and started hearing what he said was "growling and grunting noise" on the other side of the wall of his bed? He immediately assumed that it was from this "exorcized demon spirit" there and he said he was terrified and didn't know what to do? It definitely left a mark in his memory or he wouldn't have been sharing that story with me? You need to understand here, this gentleman was a very fervent Christian as well? The retreat where he was staying, was a Christian Retreat for groups or any assembly along those lines. Apparently, the "exorcism" of this "Demon" as he said. took place there under the same belief as a Christian in that particular sect of Christianity if you follow me?
I know this might sound like I'm getting way off topic of relationships and ADHD and all the problems that we run in to, but I'm not seeing this all that differently when it comes down to what someone believes or doesn't believe and just how that will influence the "conclusions" that people come to sometimes? When you see or hear something you don't understand....how the mind will play tricks on you...and fill in the blanks kind of automatically based on what you believe? It's this "filling in the blanks" that happens....where all these things come from when you see something or hear about something that we don;t understand and have nothing else to go off of but what we are told or what we read or see sometimes?
So just to point this out better...as I was hearing this guy, come to that conclusion, I was ( at that very moment ) remembering something that really did happen to me, and again....my ex-wife and I were in a tent, in the Red Wood forest in California this time? It was really early in the season and the camp ground we were in was empty aside from one other camper way at the other end of the camp ground. And earlier that evening, I had Top Ramen for dinner but didn't finish the entire thing, and just threw it the metal garbage can they provided right at the front of our site where you pulled your car into? A pretty standard car camp ground in a forest right? So, my ex and I were in our sleeping bag and we were just about to go to sleep and..............I hear these low "growling and grunting sounds" coming from right outside our tent? Then all of a sudden...we hear the metal lid to the garbage can bouncing off the pavement as if it had been thrown out in the road which followed by more grunting and this awful scrapping noise which was really kind of scary to hear? Not because we thought it was a "Demon"...but because we thought it was a Bear? Guess what? It was a Bear!!!! LOL And I whispered to my ex, to just sit still and not do anything and he would probably go away once he was done? And guess what? LOL He went away, once he had eaten what was left of my Top Ramen and we just went to sleep and didn't worry about it. In the morning, you could see the claw marks ( the horrible scraping sound ) of the bear reaching down inside the garbage can, and raking the noodles up the inside of the can so he could eat them? That's all that was?
So when this guy tells me the story about an exorcized Demon...running around outside the wall of the Christian Retreat out in the forest and he says the hears "grunting and growling" sounds on the other side of the wall....I looked at him and said...."well, do you suppose that could have been a bear or some animal instead? You know, they do live in forests and there were no people around as you said?" And the look on his face was almost looking at me in a very accusatory way, and he even made a comment about me not being "a believer". And in my usual way....I said "believer in what? Ghosts, Goblins, Demons and Fairy Tales? You're right, I don;t believe in those things" I knew what he meant, but I also knew what I meant..and that goes hand in hand with simply experience again? What he described sounded exactly what I experienced too, but in my case it was a Bear...and in his case, it was a exorcized Demon looking for a body to inhabit?
Does that make me, not a "believer" or does that make me just more based in reality instead? It has nothing to do with Christianity....but more on what you believe is true...even if it isn't? When the most likely or the most probable thing....goes to the back of the line when you draw conclusions.....then Bears turn into Demons and the world is going to Hell in a hand basket? LOL What was even more confirming was the next morning and the Ranger came by to pick up the money for our site that night, we told him what happened and he said " oh yeah, that reminds me, I have to post the sign up that says this time of year, the bears are all coming out of hibernation and the first thing they do is make a Bee line to the camp grounds and raid all the garbage cans for food. Bears are really hungry when they first come out of hibernation."
Doesn't that sound a lot more likely....than "Demons" running around looking for souls to inhabit?? LOL Obviously, telling people not to go entertaining the supernatural or the occult....I think got misinterpreted as meaning...'because demons and malevolent spirits" actually exist? But the simple act of saying...."don't' do it"....doesn't tell you why does it? I think I just told you why...as I found out from myself, from a fervent Christian who got that kind of ass backwards from where I see things? Or maybe "feel" is true in this case? I think as humans, we can talk ourselves into damn near anything sometimes??? LOL If you just let go of all the fear of the unknown along with all that it not true, and just base what you believe on yourself and what you learn through your experience....the answers will just appear by magic sometimes? And if all fails, ask the Ranger? The power of suggestion and jumping to the wrong conclusions seems to go hand in hand sometimes? A good case to point out that what you believe will sometimes become a self fulfilling prophecy sometimes? And we do that to our selves!!!! LOL
J
There are several instances
Submitted by c ur self on
There are several instances in the New Testament where demonic spirits are mentioned and even cast out of people...Its not flesh and blood we wrestle against...Acts 19 13-16, Ephesians chapter 6;10-18, Matthew 12; 43-45, Mark 16; 16-18, 1 Peter 5; 8. Mark 3;11, Luke 4; 33-36.....And on and on...
How many of us has experienced the manifestation of an evil spirit personally, and was aware of it?? My first wife told me that she did in a similar setting as you tell about J...Teen teenagers praying together in a summer youth camp...It was obvious she said (the sounds coming out of the kid, and him able to over power several grow men) that it was not a human thing, and his testimony after it came out of him...I personally have not witnessed it, but that's neither here nor there, it has has no bearing on what the word testifies to....
The way I see it, it really don't matter what I believe....There is eternal truth, and then there is every other thing that can be produced in the carnal mind of man....There has been, and is, many many smart humans over the course of time..(The Creature)...Who has believed and proclaimed many things, with all sincerity....But if it goes against what was brought into existence by (the Creator) God then they are just sincerely wrong! I've been that guy way to often:(
C
C Manifestations is a Good Word
Submitted by kellyj on
If things manifest themselves within a person, it's still within that person? I do agree with you there and there is in the sense of it, the propensity for evil and for the divine within us. What I have a harder time believing in is Bigfoot...or Jack-a-lopes that are cavorting about free out in the woods or underground somewhere? That or horned creatures with a pitch forks and a pointy tail? Or vampires, wear-wolfs...etc etc....The point of me even mentioning this, is the fact, that you can't see, smell, hear, any real life manifestations...outside our bodies. If I am an empath as stated as an extra sense... as it appears....it all just feelings and sensing things and nothing else. I really think this is related to just having a higher sensitivity to what is already there. Jus the energy like Hopeful Heart said. If that causes someone to "speak in tongues"...I can buy that, from the inside out, but it is in us already. What ever is there, is already there. It doesn't jump from one host to another...free will and choice is what is Devine I think? I think another way of saying it would be , these things need a live host....the "living God" lives, inside everyone speaking in those terms? And so does "evil" if you will....they are both there already...they don;t come from out of the sky or out of the blue....they can only manifest within us but the propensity comes with us from the time we are born. Actually, before we are born. Passed on through our parents....not from somewhere "out there". Actually. take that back....out there and all around us, is the energy that is God. The absence of 'LIGHT"..."dark"....is simply saying....without "light". Absence of.....is different than ...the "presence" of if you follow me? As defined, "evil" is..."one" who destroys. One, as in a person.....absence of "light" is when the light, goes away or is destroyed or is gone and disappear. That would mean in my mind....there is no Devil , only the Devil within us...when there is absence of light or when light is destroyed. The light...is the energy that surrounds us every where. Everywhere in the Universe.,....light is energy. Spiritually and physically. Physically...there are no demons or devils. At least that's what I believe from that same sense that has told me that. It's why I do not fear these things since I believe they don't exist. ( outside us that is )
I just had kind of a revelation here as I was saying this to you C. If what I believe is correct, then there is no such thing as an exorcism? If what I'm saying is actually true...you can't extract...nothing, or the absence of light from within a person? Under that proposal.....then possession would mean...they need the "light" put into them? Nothing from nothing is nothing? You need to "add" something to "nothing" to make "something"? Right? See how that works or doesn't work? If God is Love ( the energy again)....then that is what you need to "add" to a person, who needs more light? This is where I depart, from what many believe is true? You cannot extract...nothing, from nothing can you?
I see it a little different based on the Holy Scriptures....
Submitted by c ur self on
To Keep it simple, and because it's way more than I want to discuss on this forum...I will just say to me it's... Three Part....
1) The Holy Spirit...God's Spirit....Holiness "Pure Light" Not constrained by time or space...This truth is revealed all through the Scripture...Jesus said there is only one who is good...He also said I do not speak of myself, but, I speak what the Father gives me....John 5; 19.
2) The Carnal Mind...Fleshly, Fallen, and always an adversary to God...Unless filled or renewed in his Spirit...(Romans 8: 6-8, Genesis 8; 21, Proverbs 28; 26.)
3) Satan...Who was the most beautiful and Powerful Cherub (Angelic being) that was cast out of Heaven w/ his followers....(Revelations 12 7-9, Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14.)
I do not have all the answers, nor do I claim to....I base my beliefs about the things that are higher than I, and past my understanding solely on the Holy Scriptures as they are reveled in me...
C
I never heard of this as a
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
I never heard of this as a child either. My parents even bought be a ouija board when I was a little kid. However, as an adult I have learned a little about it.
In the Old Testament, God specifically instructs Israel to stay away from mediums. He makes his opinions very clear.
Leviticus 19:31
Leviticus 20:27
It can be argued that these instructions don't apply to us, the Body of Christ. So we should look in the New Testament. In the New Testament, we are warned against deceiving spirits and we are instructed that God, alone, is our counselor.
1 Timothy 4:1
1 Corinthians 10:20-21
1 Timothy 2:5
I'm just offering some insight into why Christians shy away from these activities.
Hopeful Heart and SMD 1409
Submitted by kellyj on
Thank you for responding on this topic and first, I want to say to smd1409, I'm kind of a skeptic myself and am more of a doubter first when ever I hear things that start to get into the realm of the occult or even things related to actual clairvoyance and such. I actually made a recent post if you go back a couple of weeks about the "better than average" effect you mentioned where for the most part, we all think we are better than we are in our abilities or view ourselves simply "better than we are on average, when we compare ourselves to other people. This one aspect in psychological terms is what I suspect is a big contributing factor to denial or a component to it and I am both very aware of this now from my past especially as a child. As a child especially, I would think I was better than my peers in some ways for no other reason with nothing to support this idea which I think, is not abnormal of anything special at all in humans no matter who you are talking about. Nothing unusual or shall I say, out of the norm? I also feel that even being somewhat of a skeptic, comes from this or is associated with it in a negative way. When I read a little more on this just as an introduction to it on my part, it said that it can go either way, either positively or negatively which really struck a cord in me. Yes, I think this is true. The skeptic, is the negative aspect and the positive aspect is my general sense of myself or my sense of "being". I am by nature, drawn to the positive and more by nature...adverse or adversely affected by the negative. I think the skeptic is more a developed aspect of this to counter balance it as a means of self protection from blindly believing or doubting your own abilities which is just the opposite of the "better than average" phenomenon so in all the things you mentioned, these are all valid reasons to consider and use as a means to access or differentiate one thing from another. And as a child for example, you have really no means to do this as yet, since your ability to see these kinds of differences between things has yet to be developed. What I'm saying is there is a natural way of nature taking it's course and balancing these things in a more natural way when things are working properly as a means to offset...one from another either in the positive or the negative? And for the most part, what you mentioned or even how you described these things ( as a flaw ) and then using terms like "we think" and then "so therefore we"...implies that this is part of our cognitive processing of this and then drawing conclusions and then acting on it? Acting on it does not necessarily mean "action" as in "doing", but more of a "mental action" in terms of the process itself? A pattern in thinking perhaps? Those definitely can be either positive or negative and that would depend largely on the environment you come from or the things we are taught as well? I can give you an example in terms of religious beliefs and how we develop what we believe?
I've heard for example, two different takes on the story of Adam and Eve for example from Christians who have reported both of these two opposing beliefs. a) Either, the conclusion that since Eve ate the apple and went against what she was told not to do, started from this state as we all are of innocence and naivety...and she was negatively influence by ( Satan the snake ) and more or less beguiled into believing that it was Okay to go ahead and do as she really desired to eat the apple anyway or mostly "talked into it". But from there, the conclusion would go...that nothings really changed in Adam and Eve other than they were forced out of the Garden and into the "real world' of flaws, suffering, famine and disease that the "real world" is full of from this world of perfection of the Garden of Eden? In other words, like an innocent child, who has now lost it's innocence but still remains a "good positive person ( or people ) who all start out that way? Staring out as positive, and only turning negative once humans are subject to the forces of "evil" in the world? Which the message from the story says that we must learn to resist these temptations and to "deliver us from evil". Right? That's one version I've heard and more or less, the version I was told myself as a child just to give you an example? And for the most part, my mother reinforced this notion by supporting it and telling me "you are a good person" or "you are a good kid"....as a more general statement about me...as a child. And for the most part....I believe her....mostly. But there was a part of me that doubted that internally...and really didn't buy in to that whole sale either? The skeptic in me that said....I'm not so sure about that? "I"m NOT SO SURE"....is really the language of the skeptic? That is not saying...."you are sure"...or that you "believe"...in anything? Right? You could also easily say....."I'm not buying it"....which goes right along with "I'm not so sure"...in a more assertive or negative way? What Hopeful Heart was saying that sometimes this develops from abuse I think may play out as a means for self protection from what ever "bad experiences" you have from being too trusting, to naive and too willing to believe things to come to find that there are negative consequences for being this way? I can tell you simply the flip side to this in my own childhood who was my father who was always negative and never had anything good to say about me to my face? He was the opposite of my mother in that respect and would as the norm...."criticize me" and tell me "how bad I was" as the rule. Not just "bad" for doing things wrong.....but "you're not as "good" as you think you are, in a very discouraging way? My mom was encouraging...and my father was discouraging me and telling me just the opposite messages along the way. These mixed messages I was getting is where I started to develop my own way of processing things I think? My own unique pattern of thinking with this diametrically opposed path or thinking about myself? For example " I'm good and a good person, or even possibly "better" than other people who are bad.........no wait........I'm a bad person..and not as good as other people who are "good"...and I need to be better or do better" Within this mixed message...there are two things going on? From my mothers perspective...she was really saying ( all she was saying with everything that she told me or taught me as well ) that fundamentally...."you are a good person" or "a good kid" in a positive way? If I made a mistake or I failed in something ( or even broke the rules ) she did not "shame me" for being "bad"...she only used my own guilt against me and then punished me for my crime or violation depending on what it was? Even if it was just a failed attempt at something....I was still a "good person" who needed a little work? "You can do it if you try....can do, if you really put your mind to it". Or even in a more positive way in terms of punishment, she was fairly objective about it..and would "ground me" or 'send me to my room" for a set period of time....but not change how she treated me or treated me as "bad" suddenly, if I did something "out of character" like that? On the other hand ...my father ..who was a verified Narcissist.....would see me as simply a bad person right out of the hole. "You are by nature...."bad"...and if by my grace you ever do anything right...then maybe, I might think you are good? We'll see? And I'll decide if that is true and let you know when that day comes...if ever, because you are bad as a person, a bad kid and don't know "shit about nothing" you hear me? You can start by getting any bright ideas to the contrary right out of your head and come down off that high horse you're on and get that "notion"...or these things your mother keeps filling your head with....right out of there because she is wrong about that. You think you know more than me....Mr Know- it -all?"
And some of those things in quotes, were actually real quotes taken directly from both my mother and my father. My father was hopelessly 'negative' always. And my mother was "hopelessly" positive, even to her own detriment sometimes? Only seeing the "good" in people from that "niave" and more "innocent" way, and only saw for the most part, what people did "right"....where my father....only saw the "bad" in people and only saw what they did "wrong".
So in thinking about that story or Adam and Eve again....I have also heard this version or conclusion to the story? That once Eve...bit the apple....she was taking in the Evil from the snake or the Satan..and for humanity for ever more...we are all born of Satan and have Satan or bad in us...and we much strive to overcome the evil in us..and maybe someday by the grace of God and his forgiveness, that maybe if we are lucky...we will go to heaven? We'll see about that? But only if you are good....because basically.....we are all "bad" to start with? I think this is the more "Catholic Approach" from what I hear ( or at least one version of it for some Catholics ) .....which is the one that by reports...my father was indoctrinated into as a child growing up himself? And from the complete opposite end of the spectrum....my mother came from that opposite point of view right from the start in how she was indoctrinated into Christianity where it said...we are all "good people" to start with..and the world in a bad and scary place to live in ?
So for me....as I have really thought about this for a very long time and considered this into what I learned and how I responded to these two completely opposing ideas or concepts and what they were telling me....about me ....was, "I'm not so sure about either one of you two...since obviously you both can be right???" which equates to....'I'm not buying it...and I don't believe either one of you!!!! " ( petewey!!! ) LOL That is saying it very accurately, because that part I know for sure!! LOL ( with disgust for both my parents at times with a great deal of resentment and contempt as well ) Like "get your shit and stories together you two...in the mean time, I'm not believing either one of you!!!! " Which is exactly what I did. "And take all the religion stuff...and flush it down the toilet too!!!" ( petwey on that as well!!!! ) lol "I'M NOT BUYING IT..AND I'M NOT BUYING IN!!!! " (and you can't make me...so there!!!) ( petewey!!! ) That was my attitude, yet in the most undeveloped state as a child? And end result really there for me, was just not believing anything? That really is what I believed.....in nothing period, I was a blank sheet of paper at that point and was open to suggestion?
However, getting back on topic and simply saying, there is some validity to what smd1409 is saying...and those things are also true and valid without a doubt what so ever. I agree with both Hopeful Heart and smd 1409...and both things are true.
Hopeful Heart.....this is where I am in my own understanding on this? It is and "extra sense" or a "sixth sensing ability" but as I am seeing it, it is a passive thing not a cognitive mental process. I had really no awareness of it as a rule...until some odd things would happen and stand out that caused me to pause without an answer? A mystery to me in every way imaginable with no really way to explain it? I was more a less...just a passive "sponge" that would absorb it or take it in...with no ability to really stop it or prevent it from happening. That ability to mute it, or "shut it off" so I could operate or be around people like you said, was simply a necessity to involve myself with others...or just suffer from the fallout of being emotionally entangeld all the time with the feelings of others which I could not control or really had a say in? I thought, everyone was like this, and that everyone was the same, so I thought I was the only one who was so affected by it and something was wrong with me so I better just hide that fact and keep it to myself and learn to deal with it and learn to overcome, this challenge or "curse" I had? It was not necessarily a "good thing" as I saw it. However....there were times when I would go stand out in a postive way...when it would come out by accident with me not really thinking about anything (thinking nothing and about anything ) and just allowing it come forth..and sometimes people would stop and take note or pause and turn and look at you funny? Like "how did you know that?" And the answer or my response was always the same. " I don't know...I just did?" I have had too many of those confirmations throughout my life that tell me that this is real? My answer is always the same and consistent each time. "How did you know that? "......................"I don't know????????????" That's my own confirmation and it is always the same? I don't have an answer......that's how I know what I know sometimes...with no other way to know? And I mean....knowing something there is absolutely no way to know...without any expereince or knowledge what so ever? That is how I know, that it's real, without a doubt? Why or how that is...is the thing that I am learning more about from my own "skeptic working overtime as usual? That developed skeptic or mine in me, is one thing that I can trust or rely on...not to go too far in any direction which was more of that develop skill in processing these things and not "buying in" to the first thing I read , hear or run across....almost as a rule with anything? It is...just how I am. It is my tendency to discount at first...my own internal openness to suggestion and believing in things that don';t exist...as a means to keep me safe from being too "suggest able " ...or 'influenced" by this ability I do think I have? Actually, I know I have it...it's why when I read that I had one of those "confirming" moments...not one of "I think so?" or "I'm not sure?" When you have the expereince, then you know it when you see it? No doubt but not really knowing exactly what to do with it? It's just a signal you get...but you still have to interpret it on your own with nothing else to go off of? Call it more of an "instant idea" that comes out of know where? It's exactly the same thing as when people would pause and turn and look at you with a blank expression and go "how did you know that?" When that happens to you enough times consistently all your life....you do get a really strong impression that this is somewhat unusual or out of the norm? When people react with surprise, I tend to take note of that? Normally, I expect something else other than surprise or to be taken back? You know? That appears odd, even to me in those instances? Which is really the basis for what I am saying many times which I have come to find, there is a reason for this? It's because it is unexpected which stands out from any other reason or thing to account for this?
What I do now is this and there is no question about it. I am "sensitive" to certain things and I am aware of what they are? I can tell the subtle differences in peoples emotions and feelings that they appear to be unaware of themselves? Simply put? This is an "ability"...and that is all it is? But it extends more than to just people. Places, and things as well? I can get either a "bad feeling" about a place....with no ability to explain why? Or I can hold something in my hand, and get a "sense" or a "feeling" about that thing? People, places, and things. Anything that is a "noun"....I can get a "feeling" or "sense" about with nothing else to go on but than that almost in a instance. It is sudden, and it comes out of now where with no way to explain it other than this "extra sensing" or "6th sensing ability". And especially, and most pronounced is "negative" or "sensing hostility or anger" in other people. I can "feel" what they "feel"...without any other input or without thinking what so ever? In respect to this and even knowing that I could do this before....I have no thoughts or opinions about it? Good , bad or otherwise. It just "exist"...all by itself? It's why outside of the things that smd1409 was saying.....it "exist" even outside of that? It appears to be to me.....a stand alone feature, as such that is just there and has always been there....with no other explanation to reason behind it? As I have come to be more and more aware of it....it appears different, or more out of the norm, from what other people expereince? It is an expereince or an "experiencing" something...outside of myself and I am merely a radio receiver that picks up these frequencies that send this information to me without my input into it? I am "highly susceptible"...to other people emotions especially anger or hostility....even if they say nothing? I can sense it is all.....with no other explanation for it? And from that expereince....it gives me a way to tell or differentiate from what is being said....and what I am sensing? It is almost like a built in "lie detector"...since it will show me if what I am experiencing is different, than the words that are coming out of some ones mouth? And I have found it to be extremely accurate in what I'm saying...as long as I am aware of it..and can use it in this way? Another way to say this, and it goes right in line with all of this would be to simply say....I see things or notice things at times...that other people don't notice or can see? Which is why people are taken a back and instantly say....."how did you know that?" And my answer is always the same. "I don't know?" The most validating thing of all is that surprise reaction? Meaning, the reaction is genuine...and the reaction tells me that I'm right? If I wasn't correct or it wasn't accurate....then why then would people be shocked or surprised? In my mind, they wouldn't...and more likely just react in a more expected way? Like..."duh" or "yes" or "no" or "I agree" or "I don't agree"? What I don't expect is a look or surprise or shock and blank stare? And then followed by "How did you know that?" These are the moments that have happened to me most of my life...with no explanation for? I think this is a good place to start at least to help explain it to me? I verified what I've just said recently with someone else who said basically the exact same thing? Not just...kind of like it.....but exactly like it, word for word? I am not alone in that much at least...and what they said in reference to it was basically how I feel about it too?
Like..."I am aware of it, and yes, it's kind of unnerving most of the time ( not a good things to expereince ) but, I haven't learned how to make use of it as much as maybe is possible...and learned how to channel and it and really use it as an ability instead? A positive ability that is useful instead of something mysterious that only causes confusion?" When I hear someone speaking, my own words ...word for word exactly in the same way I done for years and years? Something's up with that...and it makes really want to know more about it? Just like when I read about ADHD for the first time.....I went Ah ha!!! OMG!! That's ME!!! Either you know it or you don't. And you know it, when you see it or hear it that's all I can say? What I do know, without a doubt what so ever is...there is a reason for everything....there is no Voodoo Superstitious Mumbo Jumbo...involved. That applies to everything in the Universe since those laws of the Universe, apply to everything. Nothing is immune to that.....and that's a fact, Jack. I'm taking that one to the bank. ;)
J
I was just like you growing
Submitted by Hopeful Heart on
I was just like you growing up. I was very confused about Adam and Eve and sin and salvation. Not because I was told different versions of the stories. But, because I was told the stories in a very disjointed way and they never seemed to add up or reconcile themselves in my mind. I understand it differently now. I'll share my view with you. It might shed some light or it might confuse you more. Either way, it's something for you to consider.
God made different covenants (agreements) with different people or groups of people all throughout the Bible. The very first agreement that he made was with Adam. "Don't eat the apple." Some people refer to it as the Adamic Covenant. He actually never instructed Eve not to eat the apple. However, Eve played a vital role in the event because she convinced Adam to eat it. When Adam ate the apple, sin entered into the world. That is why we live in a fallen and sin filled world. If Adam had never eaten the apple, we would have all lived forever. (the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23) Adam, alone, brought sin and death into the world. Therefore, we are all born in sin. Also referred to as being born "in Adam". It really has nothing to do with whether we are a good person or a bad person. It has more to do with how God views us. God views us as being born "in Adam" and being filled with sin. That's why we need salvation. This is where Jesus comes in. Jesus provided the perfect sacrifice for our salvation. When we believe that Jesus completely and fully paid the price for our sins and put our faith in that, we become "in Christ". We are no longer "in Adam". Once we become "in Christ", God sees us as perfect and without sin. Even though we still have the same bodies and are still sinful beings, God views us exactly the same way he views Jesus.
There are many churches that teach that you must do good works in order to earn or keep your salvation. I, personally, don't believe this doctrine. While I certainly believe that we should strive to be good people and do good works throughout our lives, I don't believe that our salvation is based upon good works. I believe that it is solely based on "grace through faith".
Hopeful Heart....
Submitted by c ur self on
Good works just happen where Jesus abides Hopeful Heart...Like this sweet post you wrote! When Christ's Spirit is abiding in us, good works just happen, because he is being manifested in us:)
Blessings
C
Very interesting J...Never heard of an Empath....
Submitted by c ur self on
I don't think I'm an Empath, even though most of your list describes me and over 20 of your list of 30 describes me exactly...I am an HSP though....
C