Hello everyone. I recently found this site due to starting dating an ADHD man. Well, dating would be quite an optimistic description. That´s why I ended up on this site and oh my did I recognize myself and him in almost every post. He is officially un diagnosed and has mentioned a couple of times that he probably has this ’shit’ (his word for referring to ADHD). He is absolutely the hyperactive type, something that I have never seen in my life before. Did a few iron man, always on the go, always working, always on the screen, always stressed, restless, on edge, very successful professionally. Really different from anyone i have ever met before. And that´s why I fell for him. Could be so sweet and charming and the chemistry between un was undeniable. He did mention though that he had been diagnosed with epilepsy and is quite reactive, impulsive and stressed most of the times, is prone to anxiety, depression and has zero tolerance for negative feedback. I noticed pretty soon that it was impossible to have almost any king of commitment or arrangement with him. That started to stress me out as I began to see he was unreliable. In the beginning I tried to rationalize it by the fact that he was legitimately busy. Has two factories, travels a lot internationally, has 2 small kids from previous marriage..
The relationship was passionate but rocky. He said he has no idea how to integrate a new relationship into his hectic lifestyle, to which I was naive to think that love will help us to get there. Boy was I naive.
Things started to get stranger. I realized that he was still partly living in the house with his kids and their mother (never married, just a civil arrangement), stating that’s because he owns the house and travels a lot, didn’t have any custody arrangement whatsoever and according to his words, due to his busy schedule, he comes to see them when he can and that’s how it works for him and that he hasn’t had a relationship with their mother for years. His youngest son has some type of neurological disorder and epilepsy. I myself am divorced as well, and the separation and the divorce was messy, but now I can not imagine staying under the same roof with my ex husband, even if we have an ok relationship post divorce. So all this just seems to me as pretty much an inappropriate, messy situation, with a complete lack of boundaries, rules, order and what not. Basically I understood that he likes to do what he wants, when he wants and how he wants it and everything to be on his terms.
He has a pretty severe RSD, the term I got familiar with after researching some of his over the top reactions to pretty regular stuff, may be not the best wording from my part but nothing that warranties blocking/unblocking, catastrophic thinking, threatening break up etc..
I think I endured pretty heavy stuff on his part, but never reacted in such a way.
I once raised a legitimate concern about his living arrangement with his family and how uncomfortable I was with that and that it made dating complicated. He had a small flat to himself apart from the house, but was rarely there. His response was to get angry, saying that he never wants to talk about it again, that he feels to be put on the spot and doesn’t want that. And that generally he just wants love and adoration out of this relationship. Otherwise he is not interested. I felt appalled by this and almost left in tears to which in the end he apologized and proposed a trip. We haven´t spoken in 3 weeks, after that i decided to give it one more chance and accepted the trip. (I later realized it was an RSD reaction to my raising a concern)
The latest episode was about us going on a trip together. He asked me to send him my ‘documents’ so he can get the tickets without stating specifically what information he needs. Not to mention it was all done on the last day, all the while he had mentioned the trip weeks ago. I sent him the part of my ID that clearly shows my name, DOB and everything that is required to buy a ticket. He wrote back that he needs a passport as well since he needs to get some permit (I later found out it was true), we don’t live in the US. Im sad and embarrassed to admit the lack of trust that was apparent between us. I logically new that I had nothing to worry about sending him the copy of my passport. But for some reason I hesitated, since he was always quite secretive and I resented that. In the end I sent him my passport and within a matter of seconds he went off on me that why don’t I go and do it all on my own, the whole trip, since I don’t trust him. And this coming from a man that never formally told me his last name (I later found out by myself) and when we first travelled together he sent me the photo of his boarding pass cutting his name out. Asked for my email to forward me the reservation, but didn’t and sent me a photo on WhatsApp instead. Embarrassing, I know. I am ashamed to acknowledge what I have tolerated and even more so why. I never felt that he was in any way a danger to me, knew where he worked, went to his factory, etc. Its just the whole ADHD thing makes you to allow crazy stuff to happen. Not an excuse for me, but caught me off guard. The attraction between us was just magical and I lost sight of everything else. I know I obviously need to work on my boundaries.
So now, his last message to me was that he can’t take it any more of how bad I make him feel sometimes and he doesn’t want this type of anger and frustration in his life. That I always question him, see a dark side of everything and generally am negative. That I am welcome to buy and go on a trip by myself using the cut out photo that I sent him, and enjoy a good weather that I detected (he takes offense of even my mentioning the weather, in response to his mentioning the weather, he thinks I am opposing..), and that my way is valid, its just not his way. I was speechless of such an aggressive reaction, but honestly I already kind of got used to it.
I also know from his words that he felt the same way about his ex partner and his ex gf, that he was a victim of their mistreatment.
I wrote back that It was a shame that he saw so much of the negativity in my attitude towards him, since I actually loved him dearly in spite of all the mess (He knew I was crazy about him). And that I didn't send him the cut out photo of my ID to offend him, but because it had the information i thought he needed. I do realize why he felt offended though, Since I also felt bad when he cut out his name the first time around. I feel bad and guilty about doing that. And also that after all the accommodations I made for his symptoms, I am finally to blame for the bad treatment and that the relationship won’t work. And above all for the lack of trust. Trust is difficult to build and maintaining when you have to lower your expectations to near zero to avoid the uncontrollable feeling of disappointment.. I know, the same old story on this forum. But feels really hurtful and unfair. I can not imagine how many of you here got married and arrived at decades mark and raised children with people like that. Terrible, sad, heartbreaking experience. I guess my only question is , was I really at fault in this last case that offended him so deeply that I didn’t trust him or is it a form of gaslighting on his part? I did send him everything he asked for, but he took offense I hesitated. It really hurts to have to end it like that.Thank you for reading. Best wishes to all of you.
Huge hugs!
Submitted by Eighpryl_AB on
Lack of trust and maintaining some degree of privacy when you aren't quite comfortable isn't something you're doing to get him, but bc of his RSD he cannot see that. You are trusting your gut with it, and that is not wrong. If it is already that bad just dating, RUN. And don't look back.
How do you talk to someone like that
Submitted by lana25 on
Is there really any way not to trigger someone with RSD? Or the relationship is doomed from the start?
exactly
Submitted by lana25 on
its like no mater what i say or do he takes it as im trying to get him. he only wants positive experience for himself, which i get, nobody wants to date to have more problems. But his attitude went beyond all common sense, I can't ask questions, I can't comment, I can't express an opinion. I wonder, doesn't he see the absurd of his demands? He practically had me at where he wanted me, I dropped all expectations and accepted his conditions and even then apparently I wasn't compliant enough! Im starting to think that perhaps his family situation is not exactly how he presents it to be. He lives at that house, i never see him on weekends.. He gets very defensive when i address his personal situation, telling me i make him feel bad. I get the impression that may be he was separated at some point but now he is back with his family, and only using me for some kind of validation. And thats the reason he puts so little effort into this relationship and drops it easily whenever things dont go exactly as he wants them to. I know I shouldnt be with this kind of person, Im just trying to make sense for my own peace of mind. Because I feel i was just completely mindf*cked
Difficult
Submitted by Swedish coast on
This behavior you describe must be very hard to comply to! Your ex partner sounds more eccentric than most. I'm sorry you've had to go through it.
Wishing you all the best.
thank you
Submitted by lana25 on
eccentric could be good. but gaining some perspective I realized i was heavily gaslighted. And he wanted me to comply with something that no one in their right mind should comply with. He wanted to convince me that nothing was wrong. That my perception that something was legitimately very strange, was my fault, because im such a non compliant, opositional and negative person
Oh yes
Submitted by Swedish coast on
Oh yes, I agree, his behavior is outrageous. You are right to not comply with any of his nonsense.
Venting
Submitted by adhd32 on
I hope you are venting as a final move after breaking up and blocking him. There was no real relationship, he still lives with his baby-momma. Mature commitment seeking adults do not live with their exes and make up stories about why they aren't able to live like an adult (this is a huge red flag). ADHD people latch onto good feelings and very accommodating people who pick up the slack without complaint. Once life's realities penetrate the excitement the ADHD craves, all bets are off. Hyper-focus is over and you are seeing him for who he is. He will not return to the person you thought he was, that was a mirage. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't waste more time being gaslighted and mistreated.
my thoughts exactly
Submitted by lana25 on
After he once again mentioned his "separation", i asked him what separation he was talking about, since he was still living in that house. To which he didnt reply. I think he started to resent me, because with this relationship he was hoping for an escape from his reality, instead he got a constant reminder.
Typical
Submitted by nefun76 on
My ex used to pack as bag and disappear for 3months when we had an argument . He did this 3x in 5yrs with no remorse or empathy or how I would cope with 2 young kids . They are always the victim and deliberately will not hold themselves accountable . Pls don't consider this as a relationship or you would be dealing with emotional baggage.
You will meet someone who loves , respects , trusts and is able to relate with the needed emotional maturity that builds a relationship
Too Right
Submitted by nefun76 on
Your statement is too apt- "ADHD people latch on to good feelings and accommodating people that are able to cut them slack . Zero emotional maturity
My ex told the whole world I have bad energy and mafe demands on him physically and financially -very absurd as he didn't want to lift a finger in parenting or spousal tasks . Any push back from me is bad energy
He's a NARC
Submitted by BurnedOutLady on
Your only fault here is that you didn't understand how crazy this guy is and you let yourself be totally swept away by passion. He is clearly a narcissist. Don't blame yourself, but DO learn a lot of lessons from this. There were plenty of giant red flags here, you need to learn to recognize them in the future. Otherwise crazy predators will smell you out immediately. Anyone who hides their names from you is not someone you should trust! Anyone who tells you they only want adulation is being perfectly clear they are a raging narcissist. I'm sure the sex was great but in the end these people will shred you.