Hello all~
I don't know if anyone is left since I last posted. I used to post here often--looked back at my old posts and they went from 2010-2018ish. A little back story: I married DH in 1995 when I was 25 and he was 27. We have two boys, now ages 22 and 20, both in college at this point. DH has been a project to live with--if you search my name you'll see--unmedicated ADHD, anxiety and depression, self harm, dissociative disorder, loses every job after three years, financially irresponsible, fun parent-zero discipline, at one point walked out and we were separated for 6 months--still don't know where he lived during that time and it was nine years ago. He also has had four affairs that I know of. So why did I stay you ask? Well, he is also kind and gentle and talented and would have taken a bullet for me and the boys if anyone hurt us (besides him lol). And I was not financially able to manage the boys on my own. Fast forward a few years--both boys are in college, things are more stable, I have made my peace with the way things are, we've now been married 25 years--he is 52, I am 50, the stress of raising kids (ours were HELL RAISERS) is behind us, we have both mellowed with age. I have decided that I do indeed love this man, we have history, we have made it through a hell of a lot and that counts for something, I am in it for the long haul. Well, jokes on me--on May 20 DH announced he no longer loves me, does not wish to be married and walked out the door. To move directly in with affair woman #4 and her two kids. She is 12 years younger than he is and twice divorced. He took nothing with him--turns out he had been building a whole life with her--clothes, bank accounts, other couple friends--the whole nine yards over the past two years. In August they bought a house together. Now, for the entire 25 years of our marriage, we lived in apartments because he didn't want a house--he works in maintenance and didn't want to come home and be responsible for a house plus he traveled for work--all fair reasons. I am not a gardener, decorator, house-y person--it was fine by me, and now he tells our grown sons he always wanted a house to renovate. Huh. I had no idea. He told our sons I had an affair. Untrue. He told our kids he just met her in May. Untrue. He told our kids he cannot afford a house on his own and that is the only reason they have to live together. Untrue--he makes plenty. It's like he's been taken over by another personality. As I find out more, it just gets worse and worse. We had adopted a dog two years ago when the youngest left for college--DH always wanted a dog, I didn't, but he was all gung ho volunteering at the shelter and fell in love with this one particular dog. I should have known better--that lasted about six months--turns out the affair woman was on the board of the shelter. That's why he was all over the volunteering. And now there is a 105 pound dog to deal with. That he left behind when he walked out. And so divorce papers have been signed, we are just waiting for a court date. October 7 would have been our 26th wedding anniversary. I have not seen or spoken to him since the end of July. I moved out of the place we lived as a family on August 1st. Our boys were still home for the summer--went back to college at the end of August. He moved back in WITH THE GIRLFRIEND. Now everyone is out of there since they closed on their house at the beginning of September. And he told our boys how much he likes her kids and looks forward to doing fun things with them. That seems pretty hurtful to me, but what do I know at this point.
So that is the end of my being and ADHD spouse. It's been six months since life shifted. I like having my own apartment--living alone is very peaceful. The boys visit me when they come from college (I have a two bedroom) and that is my greatest joy. I am finishing a second MA degree and applying to two PhD programs, one in my state and one out of state. I did not realize the extent to which my entire life was arranged around him--his moods, his mental health, managing literally every detail of our lives because he couldn't/wouldn't/didn't. Even that I have a demanding full time job and am in school (at age 51--my brain is not as sharp as it used to be lol), I have more free time and more energy than I used to and I don't dread going home. Here's the part that gets me: when he left he told me it was because he didn't feel loved by me, I was too busy for him (work + grad school = busy yes), and if I was going to pursue the PhD we couldn't be married because I would have even less time for him. He listed things going back 10 years that I had done that hurt his feelings. That he never brought up in multiple rounds of therapy. When I pointed out all the chances I had given him and all the things I had forgiven him for--he said he had given me enough chances. If I live to be 1000 years old that will stay with me. Here I was managing our money, filling out FAFSAs for the boys, keeping them on track in school, working as a school principal during COVID plus going to grad school, having my ass kicked by menopause, and oh yes--missing my boys when empty nest syndrome hit me like a ton of bricks. But yes, he gave me enough chances. In trying to make my peace with all of this, I really wonder if it's ADHD or narcissism. There are so many traits that apply. I guess it doesn't really matter, but I am riding a roller coaster of emotions--glad to be done one minute and missing a person I was with since I was 22 so badly I can barely breathe. I was Christmas shopping last night and force of habit-I saw things he would like and have to remind myself--nope, not my deal any more. We celebrated literally 29 Christmases together. I don't care what the issues were, that's a lot to set aside.
So this is my final post. I don't know what will happen next. I did not want to or plan to be single at age 51. I do not want to start over, but it was not my choice. Thank god for a good therapist!!
Best of luck everyone.
dvance
Dvance, I’m so sorry he was rude to you.
Submitted by sickandtired on
I know you did EVERYTHING to try to save your marriage and provide a good home for your children. I’m so sorry your husband ended up cheating. You know what they say... once a cheater always a cheater. Now he will be cheating on her. It’s her problem now, and you are free of him. I’m so glad you posted. Please don’t put any stock in what the other poster said. Sadly, he has no idea how to help himself. Insulting others the way he has multiple times on this forum shows his coping mechanisms.
Oh, dvance. I appreciate you
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
Oh, dvance. I appreciate you updating us, but I know how difficult these developments must be for you.
I have been wondering about you, dvance
Submitted by 1Melody1 on
I remember your posts very well as I felt like you were virtually exactly where I was at the time. You were preparing a plan to leave and fed up with all the excuses for treatable, borderline abusive ADHD behaviours - so was I. Our husbands were also approximately the same age and displayed so many of the same symptoms that I related to you every time you posted. I have wondered often how you were and if you had built a life on your own. I was sad to read today how your story has ultimately unfolded over these past years. I am so sorry, yet happy you are free of the craziness and mistreatment. You deserve so much better. I hope you can heal over time and am glad you find peace in living alone and have a good therapist!
I wish we could connect directly. I have been separated from my ADHD husband since January. It has been a tough road.
Wishing you the very best. ❤️️
I remember you!
Submitted by dvance on
Oh I remember you too! This whole thing is just brutal isn't it. I am 51--who wants to start over at 51?? I met him at 22. The best years of my life were spent managing him. But he was also kind and funny and gentle and when the boys were young he was a great playful dad to them. He built most of the furniture in our home and I took some of it with me. It's bittersweet to have it, but I couldn't leave it for the new girlfriend either. Every piece of beautiful jewelry I have is from him for some occasion--last year when we celebrated our 25th anniversary and my 50th birthday he got me a gorgeous ring from Tiffany I had my eye on. I still wear it, but wow--it also breaks my heart. For Mother's Day three weeks before he walked out he gave me a custom necklace with his initials and those of both our boys. How can I wear that?? And it was expensive. And then he walked out three weeks later?? I don't understand any of it. I am absolutely dreading the holidays starting with yesterday which was his birthday, next week Thanksgiving, then Christmas and New Year's. I have no idea how to do this. His new life with the new girlfriend and her kids is already unraveling--he is telling our boys how broke he is, telling them they have to switch cell phone plans to something cheaper, he can't send them grocery money because he is so tight, two creditors called me looking for him. And I am telling you he makes plenty. I make a third of what he makes and am doing fine. I have no debt and have even managed to save a little bit since August already. Instead he has a grill, a pizza oven, a fire pit, a smoker and a flat screen TV in the backyard at his big new house. No wonder he is broke. I know I should not even register this stuff any more--my therapist keeps telling me the day he walked out on May 23 is the day he stopped being your problem or your business. And I know she is right. I just cannot wrap my head around how a person can just walk away from all those years without a backwards glance. Just gone. Having no contact helps--what I know I know from the boys being over there and I don't ask, they tell me stuff. The older one (age 22) told me he doesn't expect to keep in touch with his dad after he graduates from college in May because he knows dad was done with us years ago. His words not mine. That broke my heart, but he's not wrong. I wonder if ADHD folks realize what they lose when the move so quickly from thing to thing. I have been reading a lot about narcissism and he fits that bill too, so who knows. He never feels any guilt for anything, nothing is every his fault. But I am rambling.
How are you doing? Did you move out or did he? What are your plans-anything or just one step at a time? Some days I am sort of okay and other days I can barely breathe. It's crazy making. We built our lives around them and who are we when they are gone? I don't recognize myself right now. I keep talking about myself saying "we" and then I remember there is no more WE. Even though WE was painful and lonely and difficult. So I can't even figure myself out.
Let me know how you are too.
Starting over now
Submitted by 1Melody1 on
Yes, the whole thing is brutal! I also can't believe I'm starting over in middle age. I have lost a lot of that "youthful optimism" and energy as well, which makes it a lot harder. I can't believe how much of my life and spirit I lost to this relationship. I have learned a hard lesson, sure, but can I apply that learning when I'm exhausted and broken from these years of madness? Who knows.
Reading your story, I feel like you've been through hell. I'm guessing you will see everything continue to unravel in his new life as you've already started to see. I don't know if that's vindicating or will just make you shake your head at the whole thing all the more.
In my case, I finally ended things. My body and emotional state were about to give up on me. I had to do it. He did nothing around the house. We'd had no intimacy in 10 years. He did nothing as a parent (and actually had a negative impact) and refused to take a job. It was ridiculous. He left (but not without resistance), but then we had to sell the house and I've now moved. It has been a whole ton of stress. Preparing a house he'd destroyed with ADHD was hard while I was the only parent and only one working - and he did not lift a finger to help in the sale. He went to his parent's house and his mom cooked, picked up after him and did his laundry for him for 10 months. Sigh. It has been challenging trying to maintain stability for my daughter with so much stress and emotion. But I'm coping - some days better than others. Happily I know it was 100% the right decision. I can't believe how much less chaotic day-to-day life is. We have a reasonably friendly relationship so that our daughter doesn't experience discord and stress. He barely sees her, but that seems to be best for all of us.
Can I ever relate to thinking and saying "we." I still catch myself all the time. I still wish he was the man he presented himself as. I still feel duped. I'm a piece of carnage and some days that's all I feel like, despite knowing this was the right decision. I do wonder how I'm supposed to rebuild a fulfilling life from here. I know experts would tell me that's up to me, but I have a daughter, aging parents and a lot of bills so time for that... for "me"... is nil. I'm hoping I'll keep healing in the coming months and years and things will keep getting brighter. I hope that for you as well. So so much!
I remember you!
Submitted by Dagmar on
Good for you for not being as bitter as I would be. I'm sorry it went this way. Sometimes I think they like the drama and as soon as you stop playing into it they're done.
Oh I know they like drama--if
Submitted by dvance on
Oh I know they like drama--if there was an easy straightforward way to do pretty much anything, my ex would do the opposite. Make something take longer, cost more or be more of a project--that's all him. It was exhausting. I'm not bitter as much as sad that the best years of my life were wasted, that I have nothing to show for all that work. I forgave and overlooked every single thing and for what? To wind up alone at age 51? Gee thanks. I managed all our finances and dug us out of every money mess he got us into and we were finally FINALLY in a secure position and could really have done some fun things and enjoyed eah other's company in this next empty next phase and then he has to blow it all up. I wonder if there's an element of self sabotage there. He is very invested in the victim thing--his whole way of being in the world is victim--everything happens TO him, he is never the creator of his own destiny. People set him up, they don't tell him things, nothing is ever his fault, they are out to get him--his whole persona is victim. He has very little agency--does that make sense? I am the opposite, and probably OVER compensate--that shit drives me nuts. He's 53 and tells our adult sons that "mom never let me do anything I wanted to do" so that justifies leaving me and cheating. What LET--what adult talks like that?? But if he gives me all the power he can throw up his hands and say nothing is my fault OR my responsibility. SEE--YOU did this, you left me no choice. Okay, maybe I am a little bitter lol.
In any case, dreading the holidays. No matter what, 29 years, between dating and marriage is a hell of along time to be with someone and then as a family of four to be set aside. Have not seen or spoken to him since end of July. So strange.
My ex is also very invested
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
My ex is also very invested in being a victim, and I tend to take responsibility for more things than I should. I would feel embarrassed if I played the victim like my ex does, but he seems to be stuck in the behavior. He's 67 years old.
Best of luck to you too.
Submitted by London Calling on
I don't know you dvance - I'm new here - but I feel for you. A good friend once said to me, you don't have to make it through the rest of your life, just the next day, if that's too much get through the next hour, if that's too much get through the next 5 minutes. I'm passing it on in case it helps you. Good luck. If you had the personal gumption to make it through so many years with this person, you probably have the gumption to deal with this new situation. The fact that the world does not stay the same brings us grief but it also opens the door to unexpected joy. Somewhere out there in the world, right now, circumstances are coming together to bring something later in your life that will bring you joy. It may not be another partner, it may be a holiday, or a grandchild, a major success or a friend, but you can have faith that something joyful will come in the future.
Hi dvance...
Submitted by c ur self on
I have thought about you often....Wondering how you are making it...I just read this thread...I understand your situation, I think when we are married to spouse's that are so needy, so self absorbed, and such victims, we end up losing ourselves to a degree....It's just normal to slip into that care giver role....And with his abandoning you like he did, it will take you a while to fully accept it, and find your own new direction...It really sounds great that you are still pursuing your education...It's good to hear the boy's are well and in school....
You don't have to be a stranger on the site, you know there are many of us who would love to communicate with you, regardless of your status.... I wish you a long and very happy life!
Many Blessings
c