Hi, everyone,
It's been a rough 24 hours. My ADHD husband was spending another day in bed, when I came in to ask if he minded if I put on some music in the house. He accused me of judging him, being angry with him, that every time I had walked past the bedroom I had made some kind of noise of judgment, and, somehow, that I was "always making plans with him" (I almost never make any plans at all because I self-isolate because of the pressure of this marriage). I was already so tense because I was upset that he was sleeping through another day, after we had again recommitted ourselves to him getting on a healthier sleeping schedule. So when he said that I am "selfish" and accused me of saying things I had never said, I was done. Every waking and non-waking hour of my life is devoted to caring for him and helping us survive his ADHD, which keeps him from working consistently, accomplishing any tasks, and just being reliable, being healthy. I said I didn't want to be married anymore, and I meant it. I spent the rest of the day in bed--me for the first time in years being the one to let their emotions run the show, to cry and cry and cry. Eventually he comes in to the bedroom and puts on his only suit. He says, "I want to say one last thing to you, that I'm sorry for ruining your life." I knew what was happening immediately. I got up and followed him. He had written suicide notes and put a bullet in his rifle. He said he'd already come inside once--meaning he'd already changed his mind once that day, but he wouldn't this time. I was able to get him away from the weapon. We sat together for a long time and I told him I loved him more than anything and would never leave him, that I never wanted to be apart, and listened to him say all the things that made him "make this decision." It was the worst thing I've ever gone through, but eventually it worked and he said he didn't want to die, he just didn't want to be without me. He repeated it again this morning--that he would never have gone that far if I hadn't said I wanted a divorce.
So what am I supposed to do now? If things really could get better for him, if he really can be the man he wants to be, then I would want to stay married. But I also know that I didn't get to make a decision in the end. That I had to say all of these things about our future together because he was threatening to kill himself. So what's true? Do I want to stay together or not--and do I even have a choice? I feel completely trapped. And I'm not sure if he was intentionally manipulating me into staying with him, or if he genuinely would have done it if I hadn't stopped him. I don't know how to live with any of that. I'm posting this here because literally all of this is coming from his ADHD--he brought up all of his symptoms when talking about why he was done with life. The self-hate, the frustration, the feeling of being totally useless and destructive, all of that is caused by his ADHD. But ultimately he said it was me saying I was done with the marriage that was singularly responsible for his going as far as he did. Is he manipulating me or does he mean this? Isn't unintentionally manipulating people part of what others have experienced with ADHD marriages? I love him but I feel completely trapped by this, and I don't know what to do. If only there was a way to help him deal with his ADHD, he would have some self-respect and independence and he would rely on me less. But nothing has worked. Nothing. He sees two therapists and a doctor who prescribes his medications, and nothing has worked. He still stays up all night and sleeps all day, leaves projects sitting for two years after he begins, and he tries to be helpful around the house and change his habits for the better but it never lasts. If only he could find some real help with this, some strategies that really work for him to live with this thing, it's the only way things will be ok. But I don't know anymore how to help, or what my role can even be. I just wish that he would take control of his own care, but now we know what happens when he wants to take control. And he doesn't want me to even call his doctors. Where do I go from here?
It is manipulation
Submitted by adhd32 on
I think you need to seek professional help. I hope Melissa chimes in on this one. I think your situation is too far past the point of working things out on your own. There seems to be far more going on here than ADHD. Can you contact his doctors and let them know that he has threatened suicide?
Dear one
Submitted by Brindle on
This is *enormously* stressful for you. Let me say that I've dealt with truly suicidal people. So take what I tell you now very seriously.
Whenever anyone threatens suicide, and definitely when they take the steps that he took, you call professionals for help. That is exactly what you do now. Period. If my own husband did what yours did, I would call. If my children did this, I would call. If my parents did this, I would call. If a friend did this, I would call.
You have two possibilities:
1) He meant it.
2) He was manipulating you.
And in both situations, you call for help. Yes, even if he's manipulating you. Why call then? Because you've called his bluff and he will never torture you with this again. Imagine that. If every time you say you can't tolerate this or that, he uses this threat?
And it is torture. It's abusive to you, one hundred percent, if he does it to manipulate.
Call either the police or his doctor's office and ask them what is the procedure to deal with a suicidal adult who loaded his gun and wrote suicide notes. Let me repeat: he loaded his gun and wrote suicide notes. This calls for outside help.
Do not let this go one more day. You must reach out to others who can help.
And -no matter what happens - you get a therapist appointment for yourself. You need support. Really, you do. You need help knowing how to go forward, no matter what path he takes or you take, whether together or apart. And you deserve the support.
I agree with adhd32 and
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
I agree with adhd32 and Brindle. And please do whatever you need to keep yourself safe (e.g., leaving your home, if necessary).
Notice his response's...
Submitted by c ur self on
You asked a simple question "Music"...He didn't answer the question, but attacked you about what is going on in his mind...The worst thing you can do is to engage (speak to, ask permission, attempt conversation) a mind like his about anything...
You said you were separating yourself because of his mind set...This is wise....Do what Brindle suggested, get this burden of suicide threats off of you...It's not in a wife or husband's responsibilities to deal with a sick mind...Even if it's his attempt at manipulation (keep you close, doing the work, and enduring his abusive presence's) it's still sickness...Even if it's just an inability to realize (or care) the abuse...
Praying for you
c
Oh my goodness, that's a very
Submitted by IntoSpace on
Oh my goodness, that's a very stressful experience for you x
Even if it is ADHD, the results are the same as emotional abuse. And as below, don't wait. Call the professionals.
Much love
Do exactly what Brindle said
Submitted by 1Melody1 on
His mindset and mental illness are NOT your responsibility. This could either be genuine or manipulation. Either way he -and you- need a professional right away. Either way you know in your heart that YOU can't continue a relationship like this for your own mental health's sake. Make the call to someone who deals with this for a living and once you have, get out and get therapy for yourself. Know that the choices he makes are his... and you did everything you could and more to help him. Then put all that energy into helping yourself.
Take Care of Yourself Please
Submitted by HopingForChange on
First of all, I want to tell you to be safe and take care of yourself. I recently left a very similar situation. I had to get my husband's weapons removed from the home and commit him to a psych ward. You are in a manipulative and unhealthy environment. Please call someone to get him help and then get out! You deserve so much better.
You are not safe
Submitted by Dagmar on
You need to get that rifle out of the house. He is using it to threaten you. No, he didn't aim it at you but he said he would kill himself if you divorced him, and that is a threat. If he is in a mental state bad enough to use it on himself, then what's to keep him from using it on you?
One of the things that I deal with in my marriage is wondering if my ADHD husband is manipulating me or not. He does awesome things like forget to tell me that he's moving halfway across the country in two weeks. But he does enough dumbass things like forget that we fought for three days about something he did and then tease ME that I did the thing we fought about, forgetting both the fight and his role in it, that I think he's not being manipulative. He just has the ability to think magically and decides that "we're on the same page" when he wants to avoid a hard conversation and in his head I've picked up on his cues and am happily going along with whatever.
This is not what your husband is doing. Is he seeking treatment for the ADHD? Or is he just demanding that you cater to him because of his mental health? He is manipulating you. He did not come to you and ask you for help. He did not say he wanted to kill himself because he couldn't live like he has been.
He said that he was going to kill himself because he ruined your life. He wants you to feel guilty. He wants you to embrace taking care of him. He wants you to continue enabling him so he doesn't have to change. He wants to keep you isolated. You have already stopped making plans, but he's still complaining about it. He doesn't want you to do anything but be there for him.
It's not a good marriage. It's one-sided. Could he be having a depressive episode and will get better? Maybe. But not if he continues to blame you for it.
He has shown you who he is.
Submitted by SJC2021 on
He has shown you who he is. It's up to you to believe him. Move out and get safe first.You can always work on things when he can't physically hurt you.