How do you diffuse anger when it seems as though your partner is escalating on their own?
The other day, my husband had had what seemed to be an ‘edgy’ morning.
A few problems unrelated to me had come up first thing that seemed to put him off in a way that was a bit out of proportion given the nature of the issues.
I could tell he was a little off so, although we had a loose plan for the day, I gave him the option of opting out. I offered to run the errands without him and to assist with some of the things he had hoped to accomplish so that he could stay home and work. We own a business together and he gets stressed when he feels like he is falling behind. I thought he might just need some time to focus and catch up.
The following account may seem tedious, but this is what happened after that:
He decided he’d like to come and run errands, I started making a coffee before heading out, he noticed I was not doing it the way he thought it should be done and made an off-handed negative comment. I responded defensively (probably should not have - but, it was my coffee and I was making the way I wanted to make it).
He then just started in on how I am unable to take any criticism, how this is the problem with me, how this is what is causing his frustration with our marriage… I let him continue for a period of time because when he is interrupted, it just adds fuel to the fire. But, some of comments were really pretty negative and he was not leaving room for any rational conversation about the issue, or way for me to respond.
I could see him getting angrier and angrier. Building up a defense for his anger with every sentence. I tried to apologize to de-escalate, but that just made him angrier. He then said he didn’t want an apology, he just wanted me to understand. WhenI responded that I would try to understand, he responded with - Will you? Will you try? in a very antagonizing way. All of this while physically getting more and more worked up, raised voice, no eye contact, etc…
We have been together for over twenty years, we run a business together as well. This anger piece has become an issue more recently. In the past two years or so… As our relationship ages, we both seem to be falling into bad habits and this is one that feels more intense now than it did in the past.
Anyway, I used to push and fight against it and that led to very intense interactions that were extremely unhealthy.
I have been trying to avoid it and remove myself. Now instead of fighting I tried to de-escate by apologizing but that seemed to anger him more. At that point, I start to panic. I can see whats happening, Im trying to stop it, I start to feel lightheaded, I start to shake and my chest tightens, I cry…
In this instance, I could feel all of this happening. I gathered my things as quickly as possible to leave the house… I apologized once more and told him I was listening and would try to understand better what he was trying to say. I ran out of the house and left completely distraught.
A whole day has been ruined and likely he will not even apologize. I know he will recount the interaction in a totally different way. Likely he will rationalize the anger by blaming me for not understanding him.
He is a very thoughtful and loving man. He is so incredibly smart and in so many ways he takes responsibility for his actions and his reactions.
This is something that seems out of his wheelhouse and I’m so afraid of rocking the boat or saying the wrong thing about it that I don’t feel comfortable addressing it with him.
I guess I just want to know what I can do differently? If I challenge him or try to defend my actions he escalates, if I apologize he escalates, if I walk away, he escalates. In every case, our day, or even days, thereafter are thrown into disarray. He likely will not talk to me…
I just feel so powerless and discouraged.
Any thoughts?
When situations like this
Submitted by AdeleS6845 on
When situations like this arose with my ex husband, I would cower and tremble...until I started going to counseling.
My therapist said: "Do not engage". I started walking away. He would follow me around the house and it made him angrier. I didn't care. I employed "resting bitchface" and remained cold and emotionless. I was tired of being his emotional punching bag for the last 13 years of our marriage, tired of being blamed for everything, whether I was at fault or not. Most of the time, he was angry about his business partner or someone who cut him off on the freeway or something else that had nothing to do with me.
Walking away is the only thing that has worked for me. Its "actions speak louder than words". With my fiance, I have walked away from conversations where I was disrespected, etc. I have learned to do things differently.
Have you been to a therapist/counselor?
Ahhh, I remember those days.
Submitted by barneyarff on
Ahhh, I remember those days. I also remember the times I said "I'm sorry, Please allow me to get some paper and a pen to take notes. When you are through, I'll read them back to you to make sure I understand. Will that help?" It really PO'd my spouse. Trust me, if he had done that to me, I would have whipped out my own list and happily read it to him thinking that maybe, maybe he was finally paying attention.
I'd often wished...
Submitted by AdeleS6845 on
With my ex, I often wished that I'd had a hidden video camera, to prove to him that things could not possibly be "all my fault". Because all of our arguments/disagreements happened when I was alone with him, he skillfully turned the tables on me and tried to blame me for everything.
I've started recording our
Submitted by PepperPots on
I've started recording our conversations. It's that bad.
This is a good idea... thanks
Submitted by cennera on
This is a good idea... thanks
https://www.additudemag.com
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
https://www.additudemag.com/too-much-drama-relationships/ To sum up, some people with ADHD start arguments because arguments give them the stimulation their brains crave.
Submitted by coywolf on
What is frustrating and hard is that without some real change he will move forward believing that I caused this fight/problem. And he will likely use it against me in a future disagreement or outburst.
It seems like when he gets like this his only concern is proving my culpability in whatever he chooses to designate as a problem. He is not really even interested in solving the probllem.
Its almost impossible to rationally work with that.
I dont want to not take responsibility for my part in any or all of this. I just don't want to be blamed for it all and then ultimately have that perspective used against me and us to the demise of a 20 plus year relationship that involves a shared business and real love despite all of the fighting.
I understand. But it's
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
I understand. But it's unlikely that your rationality and apologies and reasonableness will have much of an effect on your partner's response, if he is indeed trying to provoke arguments.
Are there any suggestions
Submitted by cennera on
Are there any suggestions then with regards to this type of conversation? Is it better to then stand down until they back off?
I'm in the exact same boat
Submitted by PepperPots on
I'm in the exact same boat you are, but what are you worth? I'm not sticking around one day longer than necessary.
My last post 5 minutes ago was about this.....
Submitted by c ur self on
First, don't expect it to be fixed...That would mean you could control him....What I try to do in those moments is say nothing...Listen to him (give him his say) but, recognize you have NO part in his internal conflict...Walk away and leave him with his stuff....If you need to reply, reply later....You have to not allow yourself to be pushed or bullied....Be kind, but, be direct....After his lecture, what would have happened if you just kindly said, If I want your opinion on how to make my coffee, I'll ask for it.....Then go run your errands by yourself....He didn't deserve an apology IMO....Why would you apologize in this instance...
I've done the same thing...Knee jerk reply's to outbursts, that had nothing to do with me, and then I'm in it neck deep..When if I would have just walked away and left her with her own internal conflict, then she can grow, and I can avoid the anxiety attack, like you were trying to have..
Bless you....
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escalated anger
Submitted by How Long will t... on
I have lived this scenario countless times. I too have been married to an ADHD husband for over 20 years. It took me years to realize that there is absolutely no reasoning with him when he gets like this. I usually just let him ramble, yell and do what ever he needs to do to get that rush he needs. I do not respond at all. I feel like he is chemically out of balance when this happens and there is literally nothing you can do. I remember trying different ways to see how he reacted. (Yes, I consciously experimented on him). I would try to reason with him- made him madder. I would apologize (even if was for something as stupid as him thinking I was making my coffee wrong), but then he would say "don't patronize me". I would talk to him in a very soft voice and try to comfort him to bring him off the ledge- to no avail. So finally I just ignored him. Literally, ignored him while he had his outburst. Usually the next day if I feel he is balanced again I would ask him if he remembered saying - whatever it was to me- and he would have absolutely no memory of the incident. His episodes have actually become less since he is getting older (I attribute it to losing testosterone). But seriously, just try ignoring him. I don't mean walk out of the room. Just stand there and let him rant, say nothing and then continue whatever it was you were doing.
Just ignore him.
Submitted by AdeleS6845 on
For me it depends on what type of angry outburst it is. With my fiance, he is usually angry that his computer is not working properly, or there is an issue with a website, or it is a work related issue. Those kind of angry outbursts I can deal with by not engaging and letting him ramble on and getting it out of his system.
With my ex, I wouldn't stay in the same room. My ex would stand inches away from my face and RAGE at me. I'm not putting up with that sort of behavior ever again, and I will not be abused or disrespected in that way by anyone.
escalated anger
Submitted by coywolf on
Just want to thank all for their input.
I really do believe that this is something that is very difficult for him to control or even recognize as being disproportionate. I feel badly that he gets so worked up as I know it isnt good for him either.
I totally agree that it would be best to respond minimally. It is very true that almost anything said during this situation can get turned around very quickly and used as fuel for the fire. Its obviously hard for me to keep my mouth shut when the anger is directed so pointedly at me. I also hate to see him get so worked up. Its not healthy. I will try harder to take a polite yet unresponsive tact.
Thanks again for reaching out. It really helped to just hear that others have had similar experiences.
I've read all the comments
Submitted by PepperPots on
I've read all the comments and I'm having a really hard time with the idea of just ignoring him. It does matter when there are children involved or an elderly parent living with you. I understand that it's not black and white. I do not know what the answer is and really, it'll be different for different people. My mom taught me to never let a man hurt me. That's what cast iron frying pans are for don't ya know? Of my five children, four are daughters. I have taught them the same principle. I'm hardly perfect in my own marriage though (that's why I'm on here). So, again, what is the answer? I've never had to actually employ the cast iron frying pan that hangs in the kitchen, but I have been emotionally afraid of my spouse. He's never yelled at me though so I've never felt physically threatened. I have walked around on eggshells though, not lately however. If I were to tell my counselor about your situation she would recommend that you remove yourself from the situation. As in, get your keys and leave. I've had to do this with my spouse on a psychological level, but not physical. It's shocking to me how much all of us on here just put up with abuse. As though it's normal. Well it's not! Whether he/she is yelling, screaming, name calling, pushing, whatever, enough! I know that your spouse has a good side to him, so does mine, but he brings out the absolute worst side of me all the time. I don't like that so I'm learning to detach from my spouse with love. I have to. The time will soon come that I will say goodbye to him and honestly, it will crush him, but what am I supposed to do? Stay? And then I'm crushed? In that scenario were both losers. No thanks.