I'm just trying to find out how out of whack I am in my expectations of my ADHD husband. I've posted here before. We've been married 11 years, he is a successful businessman (never any problems providing very well for us or holding a job, at least I can say that) and have one adopted child and he has a bio child. Lately I am just struggling with an action - reaction phenomenon. He does something rude or selfish, and when I react he says I'm _________ (depressed, inflexible, a b-tch, controlling...fill in the blank). For example, this past weekend were were visiting his parents and sister and were in a hotel with our younger daughter, who has a mood disorder and is very hard to handle. Example 1: He left to go to hit golf balls and said he would be back in 1.5 hours, at which time I could go to the gym and then we would take our daughter to the zoo. After 2 hours passed I texted him and got no response. At 3 hours I got a text from him, he got lost finding the golf course and he met some guys and did I mind if he had a beer with them? I blew a gasket, because he not only was late but did not let me know what the delay was, and now he wanted to drink beers with strangers while his wife and difficult child were cooped up in a hotel room on a visit to HIS family? To me the appropriate response from him would be a sincere apology for being late and to not even consider going for beers, knowing that I'm stuck in the hotel. But instead he said I was not being "reasonable" and that I was blowing things out of proportion. Example 2: He was out of town on business over the holidays and at some point a neighbor husband texted him about an evening holiday party that he was having for the neighborhood friends. My husband texted back and said that he was out of town working that night. Period. Never mentioned that maybe I'd like to attend the party since I would be home and/or that the neighbor should let me know about it and/or that husband could have personally let me know there was a party one night down the street while he was gone. So instead I was stuck at home (as usual) with my daughter and right before the party my neighbor asked me if I was going, and I was embarrassed to say it was the first I heard of it nor had I arranged child care, so I listened to the party sounds all night while stuck at home. When I told my husband I would have liked to have known about the party, he said "you don't like those people, you wouldn't have wanted to go" and "you are being completely unreasonable, it was an oversight". When again I told him that an apology was in order he said there was not "intent to harm" so he did not owe me any apology and he continues to insist there was nothing to apologize about, that it was a "trivial" incident. When I tried to say it wasn't trivial to me he said I needed mental health care.
So, am I out to lunch here? Would most people just smile nicely if their spouse constantly did things like this? I feel like I was more flexible in the beginning but now after 11 years of this, combined with him yelling at me, calling me names and using profanity every time I voice something I'm not happy with, I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for suggestions and advice.
I definitely do not smile
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
I definitely do not smile constantly while my husband does things like this. It's infuriating that it happens over and over.
No smiles from me either
Submitted by jennalemon on
When we were young and i was not "city savvy", I sat in a hotel for 10 hours without a car or money for transportation or food when dh had a "convention" type meeting in a city. No food, no outlet, no money. He invited me and thought it would be "fun" for me and could not understand why I was unhappy with the situation after he abandoned me for the day. He did not check on anything that involved me. I was looking forward to being with him and in a new city. He did not think of me before hand, during or even after I explained to him that I sat in a room by myself for an entire day, alone and hungry. He had all the information plans and accommodations wrong and didn't care to check up on me....before cell phones. No apology or remorse....just "Why are you so p....d off THIS time?"
So Jenna is this ADD or just
Submitted by kalimando on
So Jenna is this ADD or just an a-hole personality? Its hard for me to allow DH the excuse of his ADD for this kind of behavior. Neglect is a form of abuse, I can't believe these guys don't really know whats going on. My husband knew I was fuming in the room I'm sure, he just didn't want to text me for fear I'd let loose on him. So instead he continues on his merry way. I just read something so compelling in someone else's post here from a while back:
my wife's coping system seems to be a sort of algorithm she runs in response to every input or situation. However, this algorithm only serves her. She seems incapable of adding an additional step that would include "how does her decisions/actions impact us". In fact, she seems incapable of even discussing this as a concept.
Describes it perfectly, doesn't it?
I definitely do not think you
Submitted by MFrances on
I definitely do not think you are being unreasonable in your expectations. This is the same problem I have, and probably many others. If it was just those two events, maybe you could let it slide. But I know and others know, it's not. This is a constant occurrence, and after 11 years all those add up. People with AD/HD have a difficult time seeing how their behaviors affect others. While that is great to know, how to you fix that? I think if on meds that helps with the focus and impulse control but you also need therapy to stop those behaviors from happening. What if they won't go to therapy? My husband constantly does not see how his actions hurt me and the kids. It's always my fault somehow (I'm overreacting or too sensitive). He absolutely never, and I mean never, says he is sorry. I wish I had advice for you. The hotel situation, I probably would have left without him and gone to the zoo with your daughter by yourself. I know that might have been difficult. I have two kids, one has special needs. I often think and say to my kids, we can't go to wherever without Daddy b/c I need help. But I have finally learned that Daddy doesn't help much so what's the difference, and most times it goes better without Daddy b/c then we don't have him yelling and being miserable. I've come to the point where I actually say to my husband "if you are going to be angry and a miserable person than stay home". I even said that about the trip to DC I am planning. He thinks and said to me that I won't take the kids to DC by myself. Ha, is he wrong. I said to him why wouldn't I? I've done all the planning, I'll do all the driving (I get car sick if I don't drive), so what's the difference? I'd actaully love to go without him! He worked 36 hours straight over New Year's Eve. Came home and was yelling and cranky. I said to him, you can go back to work. We had a nice couple of days (didn't say without him but he knew that was what I meant) and I don't need you coming home and yelling. He stopped. A little later, I was in his way when he was trying to make iced tea but instead of saying something he sighs and rolls his eyes and huffs around. I turned to him and said "I don't need your attitude!". He backed off. And surprisingly he was not as cranky the rest of the day. Is he catching on? Don't know. Maybe it's b/c this happened close to when he took his meds. I'm just not putting up with his crap anymore. I don't know if that's setting boundaries or if it's even a healthy thing but I'm not letting him hold me back anymore either. It's not good for the kids to hear it's better without Daddy, but honestly they have figured that out on their own anyway.
Pickles, Jenna and
Submitted by kalimando on
Pickles, Jenna and Rosered,
Thanks so much for your replies. It helps just to know I'm not crazy. The number one complaint I have about DH is that he has NO clue how his behavior affects me or others. For example, he throws out my stuff without asking and has little to no boundaries when it comes to my stuff. He picked up a vest of mine the other day (in front of me) and offered it to his daughter, ie to keep. When I protested, he said "you didn't want that anyway". And anytime I protest about anything like this, he turns it back on me and says I'm being inflexible or whatever. I read this in a post in the slug box and it perfectly sums everything up to me:
...my wife's coping system seems to be a sort of algorithm she runs in response to every input or situation. However, this algorithm only serves her. She seems incapable of adding an additional step that would include "how does her decisions/actions impact us". In fact, she seems incapable of even discussing this as a concept. The lack of self awareness is almost like dealing with an animal ( not meant to be derogatory, just the best analogy I could find)
I don't see my husband changing....he is on meds but will not go to therapy for himself, he will only go if it is to "fix" me because he says I'm the cause of all his problems. Sigh.....as I said at least I know I'm not crazy....
That's a great post from the
Submitted by MFrances on
That's a great post from the slug box. Sums it up nicely. If someone could just figure out how to fix the lack of self awareness problem. My husband did go to therapy a few times but the therapist wasn't very good and they ended up just chatting away. Very easy to do with my husband as he will ramble on and on and on. His last appt one of them brought up date nights, and he wanted to set up a lunch date (we don't have a babysitter for evening dates) which was actually a good idea. But what he and the therapist and everyone else doesn't understand is I don't want to go to lunch with him. I know I should, but why spend that time with someone that will be distracted the whole time, won't hear or remember anything I say, and will only ramble on about stupid things the whole time. why spend my free time with someone that yells constantly at me? I have a ton of other things I could do in that time. He was supposed to be seeing the therapist about anger management. By the way, the good idea of a lunch date? never happened. He has not been back to the therapist since, and that was Sept.