Hi,
I am married to my spouse with ADHD combined type for almost a decade, together a bit longer than that. We have two young kids, and suspect that the older one may have ADHD as well. This prompted my spouse to get tested at the end of last year and the outcome was confirmation of what she had long suspected (her parent was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult too about 2 decades ago). My wife is trying medication and is on a waitlist for a therapist. With medication she has stated repeatedly that she is unwilling to live with the side effects and has been clear that she sees this as a non-vital element of treatment. She has repeatedly threatened that if the next medication does not work she will give up.
I have my own issues non-ADHD and started working with a therapist recently. I know and see my own issues impact on our relationship and the ways I have responded to her ADHD as a result. However, as I grow and change my patterns of interaction, and express my needs as a person (for the first time in our relationship), she has closed herself off to me, become increasingly defensive to my feedback (something that has always been a thing anyway), and lashed out at my needs with insensitive comments. When I have called her out on these responses, I feel that she uses her ADHD as an excuse and fails to take responsibility for her behaviors and how our relationship has degraded over time (e.g. "I can't take feedback because of my rejection sensitivity"., "i can't remember what you said, you need to tell me what you need", "stop telling me what you need, I just want things to be natural", "stop comparing things to
the early years of our relationship, that was my hyper focus").
It has become clear to me through my own therapeutic process that my wife is unable to handle constructive communivation about our relationship, and has to reject anything negative or positive that is said about her, and negatives especially have to be placed on others.
I feel forced to accept her feedback and truth no matter how inaccurate her perceptions of a situation may be for me (her memory issues really makes it hard to remember things for how they actually occurred, and I recognize that usually the truth lies somewhere in the middle of how we each perceive a situation). If I push back on anything I get stonewalled and more often than not, things are usually all or nothing, or black and white with her. There are times where I have asked for an apology for the very real harm she has caused to me through her impulsive and thoughtful comments, but she refuses to apologize, blaming her RSD and the way she was forced to apologize by others. But fails to see how those dynamics is causing very damaging dynamics in our relationship. It really pains me that I can't trust my spouse to apologize for when her behavior has hurt me. I want to move forward in our relationship and am committed to working on things.
I have let go of saving our marriage on my own, something I thought I had to do, because for the bulk of it, she blamed me and my issues for our conflicts. For most of the relationship I fully believed I did something wrong or deserved to be treated this way because I was not perfect enough to be loved as passionately as I was for those first few years. She blamed me for how I responded to her impulsive and hurtful lashing out, seeing me as the irrational one, without seeing how she triggered me and played a very real role in the dynamic. Now, I see clearly my part but also how she took advantage of my own issues to shift the blame off of herself out of self-protection of her ego. But the thing is she has to work on her part and the very clear role her ADHD has played to slowly destroy our relationship. So far, she keeps telling me to stop pushing her, so I did. I read the ADHD and marriage book for my own sanity and then backed way off. Reserving my efforts only for times where I felt that I was hurt (a boundary that I won't drop) and for times where her behaviors are impacting our kids. It seemed to be helping, kind of.
I am feeling isolated and alone. No one seems to fully understand what it is like to be the non-ADHD spouse dealing with all these symptoms.
I am educating myself, reading books, listening to podcasts etc., and ulimately, still working on my own stuff throughout this. I also need emotional connection and intimacy and hoped that I would have a supportive spouse throughout my own healing.
For example, I recently asked why she has been so nonresponsive to me when I express a need for emotional connection and empathy, and why she seemed able to offer it to others, or in the beginning of the relationship. She told me the empathy she demonstrates to others is because they are novel and she can hyper focus, and the empathetic human I knew the first few years of our relationship was just the hyper focus and can't be called upon now when I need it. This put me in a grief spiral for days.
I would really just like a space to find emotional support and to vent. Any support, insights or wisdom on my story would be appreciated.
Never give up. Rule number 1.
Submitted by SJC2021 on
Never give up. Rule number 1.
Don't blame her deficiencies on you. Her ADHD is hers alone. It will drive you insane, make you question your decisions, and they don't care. They literally cannot care based on their brain .
Get away from her asap. Take the kids. File for sole custody and make her earn her time with them, because she probably isn't going to pay much attention to them in her world sadly.
Being with someone who has ADHD is lonely and suffocating. Been there.
You will be amazed at how good life can be once you get away from the chaos.
really?
Submitted by scullywag on
Wow! This is a breathtakingly unhelpful comment. The idea of just breaking up a relationship and family structure as a response... ("file for sole custody and make her earn her time with them" - really?)...
My post was specifically requesting a need, vent and support. I am disappointed that this is the first and only comment I received in response. I find myself questioning if this is the type of space I really want to be involved in.
Scullywag
Submitted by AdeleS6845 on
I'm sorry you've only had one response to your post. It can take time to receive a response. You brought up a lot of concerns, and gave me much to think about. I didn't feel that I would have anything to contribute, so I did not respond right away. I am engaged to a wonderful man who happens to have ADD. We met in September of 2015. We don't currently live together, and we are both in our 50's, so no children other than my 2 grown and his 1 grown are involved.
My advice is to take what information you can use and discard the rest. Keep in mind that SJC2021 has only been a member on this site for 2 weeks, and is speaking from their own experiences, some of which may be recent. Many here have been posting and responding for years. I joined 5 years ago. My relationship with my fiance is vastly different from many "Nons" on this board. Fiance diagnosed as a child, went to cognitive behavioral therapy, which helped, and was medicated years ago and didn't like how it "Dampened him and his creativity". He said his ex wife liked it because it subdued him enough so she didn't have to "deal with him". Isn't that nice?
You trying to learn all that you can about ADHD is awesome. It sounds like you are doing all that you can to make your marriage better. I understand not wanting to give up on her, or your marriage. The lesson I learned with regards to relationships is that you can only control/change yourself. This is true for all relationships, ADD or not.
I hope you will receive some helpful advice from other members of this site.
well, i relate
Submitted by MATTHD on
Hi Scullywag,
I definitely relate- the black/white thinking, inability to handle positive or negative criticism, blaming, not taking responsibility...... my wife used to say "sorry- i dropped the ball"....it was like an actual motto. There's never a real apology that feels like there's empathy, understanding, or willingness to change said behavior.
Having only recently read Melissa's book and a couple others of the same ilk, i was hoping to have another shot, but as of now, my wife and I are separated and headed towards divorce at the moment. Only now, after separation, has she started taking her meds! the irony couldn't be more crippling...
I certainly can't give advice, but have you tried Melissa's workshop for the two of you? I WISH my wife would go with me, but she's not interested.
Matt
Hi Scully - You are in a
Submitted by 1Melody1 on
Hi Scully - You are in a tough situation, a lot of which I can relate to. I did not find a way past this type of behaviour personally, and my ADHD partner and I are pursuing a divorce. I think it gets very difficult when the non-ADHD partner wakes up to what has been going on in the relationship (becoming aware of ADHD symptoms, taking control of your own wellness, etc.) when the ADHD partner isn't moving at the same speed of healing or improving the relationship.
I tried for a long time to take the reins in improving my relationship. However, as you stated, you can't do it yourself. Your wife will have to be willing to work through some of these symptoms, perhaps stay patient with meds, and stop using the ADHD as an excuse not to treat you well. The addition of therapy may be very helpful.
I feel like there's not much more YOU can do on your own except keep working on yourself and planning for some "what if" scenarios (What if she doesn't improve/seek treatment/continue meds/how long can I live like this?). The rest has to come from her.