Where can I even start? I'm the one in a long-term marriage with ADD, diagnosed only a few years ago after trying to work with a coach and she recognized the symptoms. Thankfully our children are not ADD/ADHD, so it's just me. I have a job, we have a home, we live paycheck to paycheck, but after a lot of hard work we're carrying no debt beyond the house, so we're not in financial chaos. My non-ADD spouse also works and has a well-paying job, so all in all, we're not wealthy but we're relatively stable. Our marriage is just empty, and after discovering this forum, I'm now afraid it's all my fault. I'm pretty sure she wants a divorce as soon as the kids are out of the house, and I don't know how to even begin trying to repair our marriage. She's somewhat skeptical of the ADD diagnosis and what it means in marriage, and not interested in counseling at this point. We can go months living like roommates and things are relatively normal, until something upsets the apple cart, we fight, and then we try to get back to living like roommates. Needless to say there's no intimacy, and little real communication beyond the day-to-day needs of running a household.
Reading the forums here is really scary. I read things that make we want to point her here, things that she would immediately recognize and might help her understand that I don't intend to forget things, forget her, get lost in my work. But then I read the despair and I'm afraid she'll just conclude it's hopeless and better to stay in a shell until the kids are out of the house.
I want to say that much of what I read I recognize. I get lost in my computer for hours while she cooks and cleans. I leave my clothes on the floor. I get frustrated by little things that make me angry frequently, and sometimes, but rarely, furious. I spend a lot of time on a hobby that she doesn't enjoy.
But a lot things I read, especially about ADD spouses, to me just sounds like bad behavior. I don't scream at my spouse. I'm not financially irresponsible (I do bills and taxes). I don't get lost in video games. I don't deny my issues and behaviors. My hobby is fitness related, which helps me manage symptoms. My computer time (way too much) is related to running a business. Before ADD I just called it being a workaholic. Maybe I've just learned to direct my bad behavior into defensible activities.
The problem is, my wife says she's always "walking on eggshells". When I think back before the diagnosis, I can remember her saying she's afraid of my anger, and I couldn't understand why. I get mad at technology that doesn't work. I get mad at customer service. I blow up some times when I can't make things work. When we get into an argument, which is not frequent, I sometimes raise my voice. More frequently I think I look like bottled up anger. I've never, ever, gotten physical, other than once throwing something at the floor, and I don't make personal attacks. My anger is almost always directed at our inability to understand each other. I grew up in a house where everyone screamed and yelled at each other all the time, so to me I'm comparatively quiet, and arguments in our house are relatively rare. But I can't deny that my wife says she's afraid of my anger, she feels like she does all the work around the house, our relationship is essentially dead, and she seems like she wants to split when the children our gone.
I don't want to lose her. I'm afraid she's at the level of despair that I read on these forums, and that nothing I do on my own will make much of an impact if we're not in it together. But I don't know how to reach her now, and pointing her here may do more harm than good. Where can I even start?
I think coming here is a good first step
Submitted by Heart's Desire on
Clatch, on this forum a lot you'll see many non-ADHD spouses just ranting and in despair, so I totally get the apprehension you have to point her to the website. It is really refreshing to have your perspective related here. So, first, I thank you for that.
I think one of the more important things Melissa relates in her books is to approach each other with empathy and understanding and just plain accept that what your wife is telling you is her truth (e.g. your wife being scared of your anger/walking on egg shells). It is difficult for people with ADD to read emotional cues, so you may be missing something.
One thing that really frustrates non-adhd spouses, me included, is that we feel like we are always the ones suggesting help/coming to this forum/reading Melissa's books. By having you be the one that is recognizing that your marriage needs help and that your marriage difficulties may be related to add is an amazing first step and half/three quarters of the battle. Your wife is incredibly lucky that way. So, I would recommend that you do some research on here, watch videos, read Melissa's book and then sit down with your wife and tell her what you've learnt and that you recognize that it can be extremely hard living with someone with ADD, but that you are willing to learn with her how to improve your relationship and that you love her and want the best for both of you. You might be surprised by her reaction (if my husband did that, I would probably burst into tears of grief and hope).
Subscribing both of you to Melissa's weekly marriage tips is also a great way to have a weekly reminder of hope and help when it comes to relationships and ADHD. My husband and I have found that it helps.
There is a pretty frank blog post that Melissa wrote that you may want to sit down with your wife and read and just say "I'm sorry, is this what you are experiencing? And, if so, let's figure out how to fix this". (Maybe I'm just projecting what I would want to hear from my ADHD spouse onto you, but maybe this is exactly what your wife is feeling too! :): https://www.adhdmarriage.com/content/men-adhd-who-arent-convinced-it-mat...
Wishing you all the best.
Where to start?
Submitted by c ur self on
There is nothing you can do for her....But there is ton's you can do for you;)....You want to help her? Then start working on changing your habits....But never point it out to her...No; look at me; I'm changing...If you are doing that....She knows immediately you are not....Clutch change for you man!
Your wife and children will be very blessed by seeing you help yourself.....
Here is a few simple things you can do to start 1) Look back....memorize that term, say it to yourself 100 times a day!...Every time you walk out of a room, kitchen, bathroom bedroom den etc..Look back...Make sure that it is as clean as you found it...Dirty clothes all goes to the hamper or laundry room....Kitchen...counters table stuff that goes in the frig...never leave a mess for her....So #1 Look back! Look back and react to anything you see that's your mess.
2) Limit your computer time...Use a timer, make sure you are going to bed close to the time she is...(Baring work shifts) Ask her if she wants to go for walks, (If she says yes, don't talk, just listen) watch a movie, ask her if you can help w/ meals, when she is cleaning ask her if there is something you can help with. Ask her if you can rub her feet, or give her a massage...Clutch this is all simple things that you can make habits, and retrain yourself to do....I don't care if she tells you no to every request for a year...Never go off on her with a victim speech...The I am trying BS...Your wife didn't get this way over night and you will have to win her confidence back...So stay humble and be thankful for her....You want ever replace her.....Put time in with your children ahead of you hobbies...Mine are grown, and we are very close, but, I wish I had done more with them. Clutch you will never get this time back....Don't create regrets for yourself......
Clutch none of this will matter if you don't manage your emotions...You can't have emotional outbursts....You know in your heart that is what has her withdrawn....Don't you? Go to anger management classes...If you are a believer...Pray about it....Don't concern yourself about intimacy, When you start being the man, husband and father you vowed to be....She will rape you:)....
One day at a time!
Best wishes Friend...
C
Clatch, glad you're here
Submitted by dedelight4 on
Clatch, it was great to read of your awareness and desire to win back your wife' s affection. C gave you some great advice, and I pray the two of you can work this out. How I wish my ADHD husband had said the things you wrote here. He is trying more "recently", but after a long term marriage with untreated ADHD, there's been significant difficulties, and damage. He has been pointing out his changes also, which makes me question again, is this for real?
So, if you want changes, and put new behaviors into practice.......WONDERFUL,...... I admire that........just give your wife time to adjust, and dont try to rush her. Keep reminding her of how much you love her, which is something I had longed to hear, and didnt.
I wish you and your family the very best, and this forum is a good place for you to come. (Even when you need to just vent)
Dede