In my last post on here in February I was desperately unhappy. My husband had just been diagnosed with ADHD and I felt the future was bleak. He was put on adderall the day of the diagnosis and after a month on that I was on the brink of divorcing him. He became much more focused at work but very, VERY unpleasant at home when it was wearing off. He was just mean and nasty whereas he never really was before (just hapless and clueless but mostly good natured - a bit like an accident prone labrador puppy). He switched to Ritalin and things have been better. We did have to have a few conversations about how meds were not just for work, and that he needed to take them at the weekends too, because when he didn't things went back to how they were - jobs half-done, forgetting what people told him etc. But I don't think we're quite there with the meds. However, we're paying for a more thorough (3 hour) assessment from a more qualified doctor next month, so I'm hoping to see more improvements then.
I was going through old documents the other day and found out from his birth records that my husband was delivered by forceps (it was the sixties), and rather forcefully so, as they noted a scar on his cheek from it in the birth notes. I did a bit more digging and it seems that research suggests birth trauma of the brain (such as forceps and vacuum delivery) may be linked to ADHD. I don't know why, but this actually made me more sympathetic to him, that it might not be his genes that caused it, but that someone may have done it to him. I know I ought to be equally sympathetic either way, because you can't help your genes, but I'm just being honest about my feelings. I think when you've been through so much negative stuff at the hands of someone else's chaos, being told ADHD is genetic didn't really change how I felt. It still felt like it's part of them, a problem I'd endured because of them and their "malfunctioning". Whereas a birth trauma makes it a problem caused by "other", and somehow that's easier to tolerate, even though it's still the same person doing the same stuff. I know that sounds irrational, but somehow it's easier to separate the condition from the person if you can see the condition as "not their fault." And I know I ought to view it as not their fault either way, genetic or not, but while I do logically view it equally as "not their fault", emotionally, there is a difference, and maybe that's something I have to work on - absolving him of blame for his condition regardless of what caused it. I don't really feel like I blame or resent him for his ADHD, but I know it's caused a large space to form between us as a result of his condition.
I took advice from my last post regarding dropping my expectations of him and over the last two months I've stopped hoping he'd be able to do things like a normal adult. And to be honest, I grieved that. I grieved that I didn't get the partner I thought I had signed up for - a fully functioning adult. I've let a lot go in this relationship and I've been pushed to some dark places, but I never stay angry or resentful, but while it's easy to forgive, and I have - a long time ago, I can never really forget, because fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. To not remember and be wary, would be foolishness on my part at this point. I can't go back and pretend things didn't happen. I'm not cross, I don't blame him, and I don't hate him, but I can't not be "on guard" and I can't just "trust" him to do things on time or properly without some involvement from me (especially things that impact me and my daughter - I will not let him learn lessons at our expense any more). That's would be irresponsible given what I know and what has happened so far.
I feel my husband and I may have different views of his diagnosis. To me, a diagnosis doesn't give a blank slate and an excuse to erase and dismiss the past as "that was before... before we knew... before I was treated... before I was on meds.". The past chapter of my life has already been written, and I'm on the next one now, but the last one didn't get "unwritten". The storyline and pain didn't disappear with the magic words "you have ADHD". My story is continuous, from then to now, but I don't think my husband views life that way. Whether it's due to bad memory, or simply excusing the past as "that was before and things are fine now", he doesn't seem to live a continuous storyline. There are large gaps of things that he doesn't remember doing or saying, and everything is in the now. And I don't know whether that's something we can reconcile, because it's like trying to co-exist peacefully when people are living in alternate realities. There's inevitably going to be squabbles due to lack of understanding of my reasoning for things, reasoning which I have come to based on past events, and I don't know that I have the reserves to explain my (usually pretty sold and practical) reasoning for my decisions and actions every time he takes objection to them for the rest of my life. It's wearying. And though I don't expect him to keep our lives on track anymore, and I just monitor and manage things to maintain a stable environment now, each disaster that has been the revolving door of dramas and disasters for the last 5 years has, though forgiven, caused space to form between us. I don't think he's a bad person, but I don't feel he's a man I can trust, and I say trust as in I trust him to safeguard our family and make the right, well-thought out, decisions to keep us from financial and emotional harm. And by not being able to trust him, I don't feel safe with him. I feel I must always be steering the boat and I can never hand off to a co-captain. And that, more than anything, is what may eventually cause my marriage to fail, because without trust in your partner to take the reigns if you can't, what do I have? Another dependent. And is that really how I want to live the rest of my life? In a state of perpetual responsibility? Even when I'm sick? Even when I'm exhausted? Can I do that? I don't know.
So, I wanted to say we've made some progress. He still works all the time, and is rarely far from his computer, especially in the mornings when I'm trying to get my 4 year old dressed and breakfast, and around bedtime, when I'm trying to get her to bed, but I'm trying not to let that bother me, and I only ask him to be involved if he cares to be, otherwise I just do it all myself. The meds have made a difference. He's starting to attend a support group once a month. Next year when we change to fancier insurance we'll look at counseling/coaching for him too. I've finally gotten our small family to a place of financial stability (we had to file personal bankruptcy last year and are filing a business one now to properly close the door on that chapter of our lives), he's more involved at the weekends and I've hired a sitter a few hours a week to help with my burn out, and my daughter starts daycare in July for a year, and then will start school. Everyone is up to date with doctor and dental things, and taxes were done early so as not to wipe out an entire weekend last minute. We're also trying to be creative about problem solving. Instead of me always having to ask him to do things, I wrote a "what can I do to help" list in huge font and stuck it to the wall. So he doesn't have to ask me anymore because he "can't remember". And instead of me getting annoyed that he didn't brush his hair before a shower (and coating the whole shower in hair, especially right after I spent 20 mins cleaning it) because he just "couldn't remember" despite me repetitively asking over and over, I made him agree to keep his hair cut short, and we hung a brush right on the shower, so he can't get into it without seeing it. All these things help, but will they be enough? Only time will tell.
Our lives are getting better, and the horizon looks calmer with reduced child care duties on me, financial stability, and no more lawsuits or side ventures (husband has agreed to just focus on his job as he can see more clearly now that side projects are a bad idea for him). However, I don't know that this life is enough for me in the long term. I don't know that I can close the emotional distance between us or ever attain a level of trust and safety that's fulfilling for me. But I do know that as with shopping when you're hungry, making decisions when I'm burned out and depressed is also unwise. Thus, I know I need to give it more time, I need time to emotionally recover from the white-knuckle endurance ride that has been the last 5 years of my life. I need to regain my health and fitness, and I need to asses things further down the line when I have more of an idea of how much change can really be affected. So, for now, I'm hanging in there, and my knuckles are no longer white, which is something, I guess.
Thank you for the update.
Submitted by PoisonIvy on
Thank you for the update. Many things you talk about ring true for me. One thing in particular: realizing that my husband (now my ex-husband) didn't have my back. But even worse was when I told him that I thought I couldn't rely on him and that this made me sad and he acknowledged that it was true he could not be relied on. I still recall what he said: "I can barely take care of myself."
I agree. It's a sad state of
Submitted by Exhaustedlady87 (not verified) on
I agree. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't count on the person you ought to be able to count on. Otherwise it's like having a flakey room mate who only shows up when they smell food cooking or hear there's going to be a party, but disappears like a skittish cat whenever "boring" chores arise.
I feel if this marriage does end it won't end in an explosion of drama, but a sad fizzle of me coldly deciding that I need more. It's sad, but at some point you have to decide what you can and can't live with. I hope you're happier now.
We have depths of sympathy but no magic bullets.
Submitted by Will It Get Better on
ExhaustedLady87, collectively we on this site are also exhausted and share your experience. We have decades of experience enduring the trials of ADHD-support. We have depths of sympathy but no magic bullets. [Collective sigh.]
Getting an ADHD diagnosis gives a glimmer of hope since the amorphous daily chaos now has a name. It is like getting a hand fan and applying it to a fog; some effect is visible but the scene remains much the same. Your 'better' health insurance hopefully will allow you the multiple visits over the months that it takes to evaluate medications and fine-tune the dosage for stable affect. Counseling could then help him manage his symptoms but there is no defined path to victory.
You're quite right, it's a
Submitted by Exhaustedlady87 (not verified) on
You're quite right, it's a drop in a bucket, and that's probably why I feel very little has really changed and I still feel quite low and drained. He's reading books like "ADD Success stories", and doesn't quite seem to grasp the magnitude of the situation, at least, from my perspective. And as you say, there's no real path to victory with a condition like this, and victory may not even be attainable, but if life is about the journey, and not the destination, I don't want my entire journey to be one I don't enjoy. It's not his fault he is how he is, but I can't be a saint or a martyr, and that's not my fault either. So, there's much yet to be decided, but regardless of the eventual outcome for our marriage, the ADHD treatment is good for him and his future, and for me, I really need to be able to say "we tried it all" before calling it a day. I feel to do so, so early, especially because we have a child, would be unfair. I'll hope for change, but I'm not holding my breath.
Hi Lady87...
Submitted by c ur self on
I'm glad you are feeling somewhat better about things....There are many factors to consider in our relationships...When add/adhd is present is one or both, that just makes for a lot of extra work in this area...And if one or both suffer w/ denial as it pertains to what it's like for my partner ( on a daily basis) trying to live with me, then it is almost impossible to be at peace with the circumstances we find ourselves in....
One other (BIG) thing you really need to understand, is the age difference...When a man starts into his fifties (even healthy driven men) everything starts slowing down...(I'm 62 and have experienced these gradual aging realities) And of course you on the other hand are just entering your prime....So for you two to be happy and content in many ways, there must be a lot of understanding where the other is in life...If not understanding, then selfishness and unrealistic expectations will just keep the relationship very uncomfortable....
Many ADHD men and women can and do show high energy in a lot of areas....Those area's are usually (in my experience) related to certain fields like Jobs, entertainment, relationships....But the exact opposite is true for things that would be considered mundane to them...(responsibilities related to house and yard work, organization, financial and spending management, and even child care responsibilities)...When you tack this on to the fact that he is just much more tired (age difference) by 6pm than you are, along with his natural desires to decompress you really should accept it for what it is....
When it comes to all the things you don't like, (shower hair etc..) that you have mothered him of sorts into learning habits that please you....Be careful with allowing that to be how you measure progress for a 52 old man, and his love for you....He probably has never, and will never concern himself for many things you concern yourself with....You are very different, and you are at very different stages of life (and that gap is just widening).....Love for one another can't be judged by these external factors of what each call important....
Boundaries are very important for people who are so different....It can really help alleviate damaged respect, and the pressure that comes with such broad differences....
blessings
c
I'm trying not to have
Submitted by Exhaustedlady87 (not verified) on
I'm trying not to have unrealistic expectations of him, and I have some health issues of my own (I have been prone to severe anemia my whole adult life, and I have immune issues) and so many times, our energy levels are not that mis-matched, and he frequently seems in better shape at the end of the day than I am. Possibly because he works in academia and is tenured and sets his own schedule - including naps when he wants them. I never wake him up in the morning but he still gets up before me most days, and he is indeed quite a high energy person in general, and seems to view playing with our daughter after work as "decompressing time", which is great. I'm lucky that he's not really in denial about his condition, he's just unaware at times and requires a lot of explaining before he "gets it." But he's wholly amenable to treatment, and for that I am grateful. I'm well aware it could be much worse.
I am understanding more now why my Great Aunt always said that separate bathrooms were essential to a happy marriage ;) but honestly, I will be measuring real success by the big things - my ability to trust him with our daughter. That's the only real yardstick I care about, and that's the aspect that has caused the most erosion of respect. The rest is nice, but not important in the grand scheme of things. I do recognise that.
Health issues....
Submitted by c ur self on
(I have been prone to severe anemia my whole adult life, and I have immune issues)
My daughter in-law has the same issue, she is about 28 or so now....She started on Juice Plus back a few years ago...It seems to be very helpful for her....My wife has suffered w/ allergies and sinus infections most of her life...She got on the Juice Plus also, and swears by it.....My wife gets the Juice Plus gummies for our oldest Grand Son..(I think they are almost free w/ her adult order).Our daughter (his Mom) said they have made a big difference in his overall health...
My other daughter has a 3.5 year old that want eat anything but fruit bars, cheese pizza or peanut butter and jelly sandwiches....I've never seen a child that didn't like chicken and burgers...LOL....He will eat an apple and a few other fruits.....I make him fruit and veggie smoothies when he is with me....He likes those (I don't let him see me putting the kale, carrots, and other veggies in the blender, he thinks there Icee's because I put froze mango, and blue berries to sweeten it up for him..LOL.....I think she is going to start him on the juice plus also....
I just thought I would mention it in case you haven't tried it.....
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See below.
Submitted by AdeleS6845 on
https://ancestral-nutrition.com/an-unbiased-review-juice-plus/
https://abbylangernutrition.com/diet-review-does-juice-plus-hold-a-juicy...
That is an interesting review Adele....
Submitted by c ur self on
Foilic Acid and Soy....I don't think my wife or daughter in law do the shakes (I know my wife wouldn't, she doesn't touch Soy, she had breast cancer in 2006)....But the girl really isn't correct calling Juice Plus a supplement....It's dehydrated whole foods...I'm much like the girl who wrote the review myself...IF we don't have healthy diets, healthy amounts of sound sleep, and regular exercise, we can never make up for that w/ a pill or drink of any kind....I take a few supplements myself, and have done so for 12 years now.....Primal Defense by Garden of Life (Probiotic) Fish Oil, Garlic Oil, and My Kind whole foods vitamin....But I don't expect them to take the place of a healthy life style.....
Thanks for posting the reviews....I will share them w/ my wife and daughter in law.....
c