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  • The weight of guilt by: PatrickF 2 years 2 weeks ago

    Sooooo....finally gathered the guts to write about this. I'm fairly new here and discovered the site after our marriage counselor advised me (and hopefully later on my wife) to read The ADHD Effect on Marriage about 2 weeks ago. I've been reading like crazy and gotta say it's quite a slap in the face. No wait, more like a brick. But in a good way I guess. I'm a Dutch 43 year old married father of two boys (5 and 2). I was diagnosed about 10 years ago and got treatment for a short while right after that and started using medication. Due to circumstances I had to stop treatment and never sought out help again afterwards. I kept using my meds on and off though. 
    About 4 months ago my wife and I found out she was 6 weeks pregnant and were forced to make a difficult decision whether we'd welcome a third child into our family or terminate the pregnancy. Let me explain a bit why. My wife has developed an eye condition (central serous chorioretinopathy) over the last two years which has resulted in her losing 30% of her sight in her left eye. It is highly influenced by hormonal changes and she has even been warned to not use or to get in contact with medication containing hormonal preparations like corticosteroids, because this might trigger it. Apart from that both previous pregnancies were insanely rough on her because she got naussea so bad after only 2 months that she had to stop working for the remainder (I couldn't even cook using herbs and so on and had to eat my meals in anothe room or even in teh garden, because she'd throw up insanely bad if she got a whiff of something). 
    We discussed what to do only shortly about 3 times within a two week period in which we had to make our decision. Right off the bat my stupid ADHD ass started fussing over the costs, not having enough space in our house, the stress and the effect it would have on our two boys and so on. I was obviously stressed out by the idea, since I'm already struggling with parenthood (I love it, don't get me wrong). Of course I also worried about her, her health and the idea that a pregnancy might result in more damage to her eyes. What if she went blind?! Though those things I never really spoke of as much. Eventually we decided to abort the pregnancy. 
    At the day of the procedure we discussed what to do with the boys. We hadn't told anybody what was going on and didn't know if we should bring them to my inlaws for a few hours. I panicked and overcomplicated things by worrying about what to tell them. Why were we suddenly bringing the kids over and so. My wife (who obviously didnt need this crap on top of everything else) decided I'd drop her off, take the kids to the park and pick her up afterwards. Which we did.

    Now 4 months have passed and they have not been good. My marriage is in shambles. My wife hates my guts and I don't blame her. I have failed her. 

    I consciously and unconsciously avoided the conversation in those two weeks. On the inside I was completely freaking out, but wasn't showing it. Apart from the fact that we're both grown ups and should have used protection and so on the thought of another child scared the hell out of me. Like I said I'm struggling with parenthood. I guess I'm doing okay, but it doesn't feel that way. I feel incompetent 24/7. I'm a disaster when it comes to bringing structure in our house, upbringing and whatever. She does most of that. If she makes the plans I'll gladly carry them out. As long as she's the brains I can be the brawn. I can do that I guess. She would have gotten sick again, I'd have to manage the whole household, take care of both boys (school, daycare, swimming lessons and everything), work and provide. I would have messed up and turn to her again to make things right. I would have made things worse. Again. 
    Now if I would have told her this back then things might have been somewhat different now. But I didn't and I hate myself for it. 

    She's in therapy for the loss she experiences and I've gone with her to appointments on two occasions. The first time I went along her therapist advised me to ask her what she needed from me to support her and my wife asked me to give her time and space and maybe talk with her and look at the ultrasound (had to make one to determine how far along she was at the time) that she kept. The second time, which was a couple of weeks later, we were asked how things were going. Not good. She had been mad at me the whole period and I couldn't completely wrap my finger around it apart from obvious reasons. And then she said "He never approached me to sit down and look at the ultrasound". It hit me like a ton of bricks. I'd completely forgotten the most important thing she requested from me and had focussed on giving her time and space. I'd been walking on egg shells all those weeks doing my best and lost sight of the most essential thing I could have done. I've messed things up in our relationship in the past and she bore with it. But this was the straw that broke the camel's back. 

    Her therapist advised us to get marriage  counseling, which we now have. I've also  sought help and had my intake this morning. I'm struggling. I've written her a letter (with a little help from our marriage counselor) earlier this week explaining everything from my perspective. I've come clean about all my fears, insecurities, feelings of incompetence and so on. I've told her I take full responsibility for what I have and haven't done. I've tried to explain that I also grieve for our child and what could have been. I truly do. I'm convinced it would've been a girl. I always wanted a daughter and hate myself for the way I am ruining all of that. I want to be a better husband and father and will do anything I can and beyond that to accomplish that. 

    So yesterday I had new medication for my allergies delivered to our house. It was a nasal spray and I sprayed it n the air once to see if it works before I sprayed both nostrils. My wife asked me what it was in a slightly agitated tone. I look down, read it out loud and stop halfway... Avamys...fluticason....corticosteroids.... I just sprayed the stuff she needs to stay away from in the air in my house and she took off upstairs pissed. I failed her. Again.

  • How do I get my husband to keep his phone with him? by: shevrae 2 years 2 weeks ago

    My husband was diagnosed with ADD last year, and started using alarms on his phone to keep himself on track.  It is much more successful than anything else he has tried and I'm grateful for that.  The problem is he's constantly setting his phone down and walking off.  Or forgetting to grab it in the morning.  So several times a day I hear (or an awakened by) an alarm that I have to hunt down in the house and deliver to him.  The first few times I didn't mind much - I figured it was the cost of having a more reliable partner - except now it's becoming a new unreliability and frankly, just making ME responsible for managing him again.  Sigh.

    I appreciate the idea that I don't HAVE to do any of that - but the untended alarms are very disruptive to my life as I homeschool the kids while he works from home.  So ignoring it isn't really a viable option because it distracts the kids (who also have ADHD) and completely throws off my ability to do my job.

    Any suggestions other than super-gluing his phone to his hand?

  • My ADHD Partner Broke Up With Me and Need Insight by: mynameislarn 2 years 3 weeks ago

    6 years of a domestic partnership down the drain after a recent stressor came to the forefront. I can't make sense of any of it. My partner (28F) broke up with me (38F) this past week. This is the second time. The first time was due to what she says is this crippling fear of the future and not being able to "get there." That first time she was stressed from her job and this was prior to diagnosis. She said she felt like she needed to be on her own and do her own thing. It was devastating and I took it hard and I accepted it. We didn't create the proper boundaries though, and still went on a trip we had planned together with her parents. Shortly after she received her diagnosis and got on meds. Discovered relationship flight is a thing. We ended up getting back together and she stated that we were in a good place and she was happy. I felt the same. Our relationship has always been healthy, loving, supportive, adventurous, and communicative since day one. Despite disagreements and minor arguments we have always been able to communicate plainly and there were no massive outbursts nor disrespect. Not even during that breakup or this one. Ever since discovering about her diagnosis, I've read books, read posts on forums, med journals/publications. I have accepted it fully and supported her decisions and have done my best to be understanding. She's loving and kind, and loyal and I have never had any gut feelings that made me distrust her. There were bits of frustrations about those behaviours associated with this type of neurodivergence but we've always been able to take a step back and talk about it and find the best way to tackle it. We're quite literally the best team and all our friends and family see it and adore us together. Recently she's dealt with the stress of her mother having to go through an emergency surgery. It was rather scary and was the second time her mother has had an health issue to where she thought she would lose her. We were all at the edge of our seats and a bundle of nerves. Thankfully she made it through, but ever since that happened about two weeks ago my partner shut down, disassociated, and ignored me to the point I felt invisible. It hurt my feelings because I was also worried for her mum and also worried about her. I asked to talk to her and I explained what I felt and told her she wasn't alone and it hurts to see her try to process what's going on. She said sometimes she just doesn't know what to say, so I asked her what she needed. The moment she started to clam up, it was reminiscent of our first breakup talk. I asked her plainly if that's what she wanted and she said yes. I accepted it for face value that it's what she needs but once again I am crushed, disappointed, exasperated, and angry not at her but at ADHD itself. I feel it's robbed her and I of this incredible life we've built. Because of our age difference and since receiving her diagnosis I've always made sure to never pressure her into anything like kids or marriage (and tbh I'm one of those I'm happy whether it happens or not type of people). She's always initiated those talks and we've had many conversations about what our future looks like. I asked her questions like are you still into me, did you fall out of love with me, did you feel we grew apart, do you feel we weren't compatible, and all the answers were no. She broke down and said with other partners it was easy to walk away because she didn't love them. She said she loves my company and our time together, that I am the love of her life and that she's never loved like this before, but when she sees our friends taking the next step like marriage and babies, she says she can't quite "get there." She says she thinks there's trauma from her youth coupled with ADHD that makes taking the next step difficult and she feels "the next step isn't enough of a reason." She says I'm her best friend, and the best partner, and she appreciates me and all I've done but feels like she has to figure out who she is without me and the fear of the future is crippling and she can't quite put it into words. I feel discarded and like im losing everything. I asked if the feeling has been going on for sometime and she said that it started happening when she went to see her mum whilst she was at hospital (so the past two weeks). She said that it hit her that she has this partner who is super supportive but she can't even bring herself to text me to let me know she's ok, and she felt it was an issue. She said she can't go another 6 years and feel this way and feel flighty especially when big things come into the mix like kids and a house. I'm letting her go ofc and gosh the pain of this feels debilitating. Within the week I've lost 7 pounds because I haven't been able to eat. It is just so hard to lose the love of my life like this. Deep down I still feel like she's my person. I hope she gets the therapy she deserves. Part of me holds on hope that maybe in the future we'll meet again but part of me is also ready to just go because I am so heartbroken and I wouldn't want her staying out of guilt and I personally can't go through this a third time. She says it's not because she thinks the grass is greener or that she wants to see other people (she says it makes her sick to even think about other people) and I believe everything she's told me but I just don't understand why out of everything, a good loving relationship she says she valued had to give. For those with ADHD have you ever regretted something like this? Do some of you break up and get back together? For Non-ADHD folks have you been in my situation and held out hope? Did they come back and did you let them back into your life? Also, do you just cut this person out of your life forever? I just am such at a loss and massively confused. We did promise each other not to let each other struggle financially for a bit, and to have each other's backs from a distance. We will share custody of our dog on a 90/10 situation (her dog primarily) and be each other's emergency contacts until we move on and have well adjusted within our own separate spaces. For now we're cohabitating until I can find a place and we've started separating this current space so we can have the boundaries. 

  • Do ex with ADHD ever come back ? by: puja 2 years 1 month ago

    My boyfriend (M33)of 2 months with ADHD just broke up with me(f30)

    It was going really good at start , he was sweet and attentive, would always reply my text. Made me feel heard. I thought he was opening upto me, he talked about his complicate relationships with his closed ones. But he started being quite slowly i did best to reach out and make plans, i thought we had a good time. But a week ago I started sensing him disinterested, would only get dry texts, I asked him if there was anything i did anything he wanted to talk about, he said he was worried about his mom who was having a surgery. Thankfully his mom surgery got better and is doing good. But still he was dry texting me . I tried talking about it again then he said he was worried about his assignments so he needs to be hyper focused and couldn't do it unless he ignored  people, also he has started taking his ADHD meds as he needs to focus on assignments. So I didn’t text him for couple of days, did send him memes in Instagram though. I still felt he was dry texting me after he was done with his assignments and asked if he wants to break up with me as he was hurting me by acting disinterested!
    He said he was feeling weird doesn’t want to hurt me and broke up with me! I think I over reacted to the situation, he was going through so much , also he has a pressure to finish college by December. I don't know if he broke up with me because he was thinking about it and procrastinating like he was doing on his assignments or it was impulsive as he is under lots of pressure. I feel bad about not trying to understand his situation, I got insecure as his behavior changed drastically towards me! probably should have been patient. 

    I really like him and wish I could talk to him. I didn’t reply to his msg just removed him from instagram. I am really hurt ! Did I self sabotage the relationship by bringing up break up ? Was it inevitable? Would he have come back if I had waited for him ! I don’t know I am so hurt and confused. Should I reach out to him and apologize?

  • Divorce/breaking point questions by: julie jay 2 years 1 month ago

    Hello everyone,

    I haven't been on the site for a while to read some experiences and was a little shocked when I signed in to see that I first started seeking answers a little over 8 years ago...E.I.G.H.T. YEARS...went by in the blink of an eye.

    I have finally reached my breaking point; long-story-short, through medication for newly diagnosed bi-polar tendencies and cognitive therapy of my own, I have decided what I need to do but still just unsure, so I am now in the process of "seeking the counsel of many"...so the main question is, for the folks on here that decided to eventually leave or divorce their ADHD partner, what was your personal breaking point? Also, in what way did you carry out your plan of action? For me personally, it seems easy when there is a severe argument or fight to want to pack up my belongings and head out or even just leave with the shirt on my back after 16 years of this.  However, when things are going well (as they have been recently except for a few instances here and there) like since I came back last year from staying with my mom for 7 months after my father passed away, I am having trouble approaching or determining a good time to tell him that I simply cannot live like this any longer, because I know he will blow up. I am getting too old and no longer have the mental energy or even physical stamina to carry on like we have for this long.

    Just asking for personal experiences and not saying that divorce is the only or even healthy answer, etc., there's just a lot more to the story (mental and emotional abuse included that I did not want to acknowledge or accept) that have helped me arrive at my decision. 

    Blessings to all and thank you for reading.

    xoxo - julie jay

  • Addictions and ADHD by: Exhausting 2 years 1 month ago

    Hi

    Anyone on here have experiences with their ADHD partner and his/her gambling?  

  • And he flipped by: Eighpryl_AB 2 years 1 month ago

    So this ADHD thing was going so well.  At first my husband was resistant to the idea, but little by little he started paying attention and understanding it and recognizing that's what he has.  Two weeks ago he told me how much he loved and appreciated me for doing all this research and learning about ADHD, and for helping him learn about ADHD and how helpful I've been in making changes to how I approach things and sending him reminders and all this stuff.  Then today I texted him about our daughter (who is learning to drive and TERRIFYING me way beyond what her brother did or twin sister is doing) and was explaining to him about how, as I've been researching ADHD, I am 99 percent sure she has it.  Hers is Inattentive - she's an absolute sweetheart, but she's shy, has anxiety and some very quirky behaviors.  (He's ALWAYS been the one telling ME how quirky she is, and he's been HARD on her for her shyness and distractability and tendency to cry easily, but I didn't call him out for how he's handled it.  Just listed all of her obvious and unusual traits that are ADHD traits.)  And he lost his mind.  Furious texting back and forth with me.  According to him there is nothing wrong with her.  He ADORES his daughter just the way she is, and he doesn't want me making her feel inferior or like she's less of a person or making excuses for her.  She's just who she is and she will grow up and come into her own just fine as long as we don't treat her like there's something wrong with her.  I've always been gentle in how I parented her because she has always been a sensitive girl.  And I never said to him or her that there was something wrong with her.  I just told him that I'd ordered some books to learn more about ADHD in teen girls and how I could best help and guide her as a mom.  I don't want her to struggle in life.  He kept demanding I tell him what "normal" is and insisting that I have no idea and can't even give him one example.  He was absolutely furious.  Here I was already feeling terrible, like I could have done better as her mom and helped her better if I'd just known, then the dude who has outright admitted to how much he's struggled having ADHD his whole life and not knowing it is telling me that I'm pretty much wrong for educating myself and wanting to help educate him and her.  I stayed as neutral as I could, given we were texting.  He essentially said ADHD is a money grab by doctors, psychologists, authors, etc.  I told him that was only his opinion and he should really do some research himself before deciding that.  After he berated me for my superiority I told him I won't talk to him about ADHD anymore.  He tried to call me, but I didn't feel like getting berated over the phone as well, so I told him "No thanks.  I already said I won't talk about it anymore."  And he said "Thank you."  As if I have been in the wrong this entire time for sharing the reels and info I've read, and all the time I've invested in learning all I could to try to HELP him, and improve our marriage.

    Now I am barely holding it together.  This has been a horrible year for our marriage because i finally broke, then I found out about his ADHD and that broke me some more... but I felt like there was some kind of hope if we could at least learn about it together and he could get some coping mechanisms in place to deal with his unreasonable reactions.  I still don't like him, but I was really trying and it seemed like things were getting a little better.  The grieving process has been really hard for me.  Realizing my daughter most likely has ADHD broke me again because of how much my husband's ADHD has affected our family and specifically me as his spouse and how HARD our marriage has been.  I don't want my sweet girl to have a hard marriage or have a spouse who doesn't understand her and can't support her because he has no idea what's going on and neither does she.  Ignorance is NOT bliss.  I feel like I'm going to have to go over his head with this because she needs to know what she's up against.  I am certain that just pretending she's no different from our non-ADHD kids is not the solution, and, as her parent, I feel it's wrong to just leave her to figure it out on her own. 

    Now I'm back to feeling hopeless with his willful ignorance, and feeling like he's confirmed, yet again, that I am completely alone.  Responses like this are why I have never been able to freely talk to him about things I worry about or my feelings or opinions if they don't align with his unless I wanted to fight.  Which i never do.  Right now I want to just quit all the things I've done to "help" him lately since ADHD is "just a profitable industry".  Obviously he shouldn't need help managing it then.  But that feels petty, too.  I'm just so hurt and disappointed right now.

  • PSA by: adhd32 2 years 1 month ago

    If you are on Melissa's FB page and want to remain anonymous on this site,  be careful how you comment on Melissa's FB page.

    I joined the FB page a while ago but never looked at it until yesterday.  I found some of the comments and word choices were eerily familiar.  I'm no detective but after 5 years on this site I've become familiar with some of the long time member's stories and catch phrases etc.  If you want to remain anonymous here, please consider what you post elsewhere.

    If you aren't concerned about remaining anonymous please ignore this message.   

  • Vacation plans are not happening. I need a hug. by: Angie_H 2 years 1 month ago

    Hello,

       I post here occasionally when my frustration with my husband gets too hard to take. I need a hug. My husband and I were planning a short driving vacation. I chased after him for weeks, and we did not finalize any plans. I alone sketched out a draft itinerary that includes some places we each would like to visit. Then he pushed back the start date one day, which meant I had to check opening hours for the new dates. Tonight my husband realized we cannot plan routes and book hotels in time. Now we pushed the vacation back a full week. He promised he will keep his commitment to participate and finalize the plans in the next few evenings. I said we are not going if he does not keep this new planning commitment. He said OK!

    Angie

     

  • High Performing but Tired by: loveandpeace 2 years 1 month ago

    Hello ADHD fan club.

    I'm new here.  I've been fairly gunshy about admitting ADD for most of my life...but when originally diagnosed, there was no H yet if it gives you a timeframe as to how long its been.  Like most of us, I can be very high performing at times and sometimes it's best to just crawl back into bed.  Still, over the years I've gotten enough tricks in to be relatively high performing and to put myself into situations where I'll do well and avoid those where I'll fall. 

    I grew up in a small rural village.  There one didn't talk about mental health problems.  I was known as bright, but flawed, but high energy.  Could anyone guess what it might be being in concert, marching, jazz bands, church commentator and piano player, 4-H County President, football, tennis, basketball, drama, school paper editor etc.??  It was in college where sheer will didn't always work against a demanding curicula.  I got into Honors Accounting off the start.  Did well, then failed a midterm....Dean was looking for drops, came back and got the highest grade on the final.  At any rate, point being, I didn't finally seek help until just after college.  I had a friend refer me to an amazing Dr. at Northwestern and she put me on the original cocktail of Straterra, Lamictal and something else (I forget).  It was amazingly helpful as was her guidance.  I settled down and finally moved up fast in an F200 company....not huge, but respectably and above pace.  It brought me out to CA.  Where I met my wife. 

    Wife may rub most the wrong way.  She was looking for someone to control.  I was looking for someone to control certain aspects of my life.  We fit.  We both had our respective places in Silicon Valley, and then bought one together, renting the old abodes.  I kept fighting the game of thrones at various places, and carved out an above average living.  Unfortunately, at some point my body began to reject Straterra and Lamictal and I had nowhere to go but to a stimulant.  I'd hoped to avoid it, but lacking options needed something.  Fast forward a decade of sedentary work  (accounting) and I'd become overweight, weak and not healthy.  When an unexpected coup occurred where I was last working and some idiots took over and brought in their clueless friends, the entire finance team was eliminated.  I saw my chance. 

    Rather than scamper back to the same old rut...I joined a gym.  I started working out.  I went to classes.  I picked up a trainer.  I've been getting stronger, more fit and healthier.  With insurance in flux I decided that (after 3 doctors had tried previously due to circulatory concerns) I would go off my stimulants.  It's been rough...but great....and very slow.  (So apologies for the writing....still learning to cope). 

    I wish my wife would be a bit more supportive though.  She's grown accustomed to nice things afforded by my paychecks.  Every day her hands and wrists are adorned with $35K in jewelry.  Her clothing is high end.  We have a 7 figure home in CA (aren't they all) and a couple rentals to boot.  The accessories are all very high end....the only thing banned as a don't go there is Hermes.  When we fly, we fly first class about half the time.  It's a blended family and I have every intention of putting the kid through college.  I have a Telsa S, she has to slum it in the late model Lexus until her Tesla X comes in. 

    She likes money for the things that it can buy.  I wanted money so that eventually I can run away from working.  The most likely way I know how to do my job is to deal with the personnel during the day and as they're leaving, then I get going on my stuff and hyperfocus.  That's a lot of 12-14 hour days over the past 30 years of working.  It's taken a toll on my health.  I need to invest some time there now. 

    Yet I've been relegated to errand boy.  Constantly needing to stop whatever's being done to do something small or another thing.  A horrible task for me is cleaning the house.  Give me specific chores and I'll get it done, but to go through the whole house and not get distracted is a fool's errand.  She doesn't want me to get a maid.  Every day is barrage of dismissals on things not done.  While I love her, and think she's trying to propel me back to work....I'm now demoralized.  This really wasn't what I was working so damn hard to get to.  My wants are so simple and small.  I just want peace and to put together a routine that will be energizing and include good habits.  I realize she's never seen me at home so much, and never off medicine.  Not really sure what to do.  What I want is to get her to understand and accept that I'm not killing myself so she can get another property in a bougie part Silicon Valley.  Our place is lovely (albeith messy).  But if she won't accept it....

    Questions:

    1.  Any non stimulants besides Straterra that you've liked?

    2.  For anyone that's retired, especially before their spouse.  How do you set limits?

     

     

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