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  • Temper Tantrums by: kathy1208 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Hey everyone, I've written about this on here before but I am back.  I am 32 and my husband is 30.  We've been married for a year and together for five.  For the first 4 years, I was in law school at night will working full time, then graduated and was studying for the bar exam at night while working full time, then just tense waiting for results and hoping i'd have a job.  Well I did pass in May, 2013 and my employer hired me as an attorney right away, and I see that May 2013 moment as the point from which my high strung, stressed out, work out law school self began to slowly fade and the calm and patient me slowly started to return.  It's now been 17 months and I am probably 90% back to "normal".

    I say this bc when me and my ADHD husband got together, it was a volatile combo bc he is a loose canon/emotional guy and while I would normally say i am NOT, the few years i was in law school and working so much and trying to get the best grades all while it seems the law profession was imploding, im building up my school loand debt, my old dog was very sick and dying, etc., it was like a period of nonstop stress for me and i was my most emotional, unstable self.  Now that it's all smoothed over I feel a million times better and the nerves are no longer shot. BUT, the problem with all that was that I think bc i was sometimes behaving just as badly as my husband in the emotional/loose canon department, and also responding in kind to HIS behavior like that, i think we formed a lot of bad habits.

    Anyway here we are, and we are to a point where, i am back to normal and it's basically like, depending on the week, once a week (maybe even once a day if hes on edge about work or something), my husband is having an emotional meltdown about something and im just standing there, completely calm, just sort of wondering how in the world he can be such a wreck. I think it confuses him bc for four years we were both emotional and both apologizing for overreacting and such, and now were at a point where i feel like its me remaining calm and composed constantly and just him embarassing himself one time after another after another....I do notice that he retreats and behaves "well" quicker these days now that i am not there to impliedly condone his behavior by acting similary in response....however, i still worry myself with how to deal with it.

    My problem is that yes, it is GREAT that I am in a peaceful and happy state of mine about life and not feeling codependent toward him, so when he gets that way it leaves me 100% unaffected most of the time and maybe only a little upset other times when i can at least hide it and remain happy....the bad part is that i dont want this to drive a wedge of resentment between us.

    The other night we hosted a wedding reception in the banquet room that is available in the high rise building we live in....it's a long story but me and my husband went upstairs to our condo and were packaging leftovers for the bride and groom (bc i asked him to help) and when i sensed him getting inexplicably annoyed i immediately said, it's ok - nevermind I can do this, you just go back to the party....he is like NO!!! and DEMANDED to do it, even insisting that i move out of the way and do it all....so i left and went back to the party instead of being around that.  Then he was mad that he "had to do it all."

    Later that night i was very honest with him, even though i feel it felt harsh...i told him that there was nothing to be so angry about, and that when i told him nevermid he was free to leave, without my guilting him, and instead he wanted to be this martyr that "did it all himself" and basically he paved the path that was most dramatic and focused on him. I also told him that these emotional outbursts over little or nothing happen at least once a week, and that it's like living with a dramatic, emotional teenage girl. I told him that he needs to learn to be in control of his emotions, and that he lets them control him.  I also let him know that when acts that way he embarasses himself.  Like, when he insisted he put the corn in a tupperware himself, I had started to walk back into our hall to go down the elevator, and he was literally screaming "I DONT EVEN WANT TO BE DEALING WITH THIS I AM GOING TO THROW THIS CORN OFF THE F*CKING BALCONY!!" and i literally just laughed at how absurd and silly and dramatic he sounded, and to make matters worse, while he was yelling this, our neighbor was also standing out there, waiting for the elevtor with his dog and baby. I walk out and im completely fine and shaking my head and hes like "hi how are you?" and we have a nice conversation on the elvator. But like, of course our neighbor I am sure is thinking "ok that guy is nuts."  I told him that our neighbor was right in the hall and heard everything and maybe it would serve him better to not say and do things like that. 

    So my question is, while I DID feel that all HAD to be said that one time, i dnt want to keep talking like that to my husband bc i feel it's emasculating and condescending almost...i mean, yeah it may all be true, but at the same time he is going to grow to resent me if he sees me as this person that is just looking down on him all the time.  The fact is, OTHER than the isolated outbursts like this, he is totally great and sweet and nice and smart and everything, and a really good guy with good intentions....i DO love and respect him EXCEPT for this one thing - so yeah, I guess int he future how do i react to this stuff? I dont expect him to change, at least not based on what i say....i feel like maybe i need to stop talking like that to him and just ignore him completely.....i just dont want him to harbor feelings of resentment toward me, even though it's him behaving badly. 

    I want to deal with his tantrums in the way that is the least damaging to our marriage.

  • Husband always has to go above his means to look like the good guy! by: Anonymous (not verified) 10 years 3 weeks ago

    We currently have 2 cats. I'm happy with two. We used to have 3 and one died last year. It took me a long time to get used to 3 cats since I am a clean freak and am constantly cleaning up cat hair. I love them to death but am not looking to add to our brood. H was gung ho about getting a dog. No no no! A dog is too much work. He finally gave up on that idea and said we should get a kitten. I finally got on board with that after a few weeks and got excited about it and said we should go to the shelter that weekend. Well it seems like as soon as I got excited about a kitten he was no longer interested and never went to the shelter and stopped talking about it. Then he finds out his mom has like 30 strays in her barn and she offers to bring one out for us. H then tells her to bring 2. I really do not want 4 cats but he says we'll be helping her out by taking them. I'm sorry she has so many but that doesn't mean we need to become the crazy cat couple to help her out! This isn't a "Oh they are so cute and we are doing good by taking 2" because this is a 15-20 year commitment. I can totally see him regretting getting 2 on top of the 2 we have a few weeks after we get them. I foresee them peeing all over the house seeing as how they are outside cats, but he thinks we are doing good by helping her out.

    Same goes for tipping. H can barely get by check to check and if I wasn't here to help out he would probably be living on the street. Yet he'll go out and have a $15 meal and leave a $10 tip because he feels the bartender or the waiter has to make enough to live. You aren't a millionaire...not even close! 20% of $15 is $3 and that is enough. I don't understand why he feels he needs to tip everyone above and beyond. We go to our usual bar and work up a $50 tab and I only give an $8 tip and he freaks out because I should have given them twice that. He thinks if we tip really well we'll get stronger drinks. Whatever! I am not flippant about giving my money to strangers because he seems to think that everyone workgin at a restaurant is nearly broke and needs his money to get by.

    It's great that he's has that do-gooder spirit but I hate the fact that he does it to help others out when he can barely get by himself.

  • Want things to work but I am tired of trying by: Cdjackets 10 years 3 weeks ago

    I have been married for 34 years was diagnosed about 12 years ago with ADD, Bipolar, and Depression. My husband has no sympathy, support, caring, or understanding for me. I lose things then that makes me irresponsible. I am an impulsive shopper no matter ho hard I want to stay on the list. I have begged for hep with this and my kids and my husband all think I should just change my behavior. I am constantly late. I try's hard. Noe I am writing the time for my appointment to be earlier but he still thinks I am irresponsible. I am messy . He hates it. He is a marriage counselor and sees clients at night Sao there is no way I can cook dinner. It is a home office. The worst problem is that I am loud and raise my voice and speak disrespectfully to him. We fight about that. I am sick of being put down, laughed at, criticized, blamed mad I feel lower than low. If I could I would leave. I need the insurance is on reason I can't leave. The history of our relationship and our families keep me here plus I gave no where to go or live. Every one will be mad at me. How can I live the rest of my life like this. I am so unhappy. I pray every night that I will wake up the next day an every thing will be new and refreshed and the love will be back. I have a therapist and a psychiatrist. Any tips for me?

  • Not Respecting Other People versus by: Standing 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Not Respecting Other People versus Being Unaware and not showing respect for other peoples' belongings, time, or space.

    I'd like to hear what others, including those diagnosed with add, think about this.

    My husband is diagnosed both npd and add. He definitely has unawareness, but I've also seen clearly that he has no respect for other people as valuable individuals in their own right.

    He's only interested in you if you may be of use to him and then, only to the extent that your "stuff" may either aid or inhibit his cause. He's content to get a sound byte about you, he puts you into a box - plumber, roofer, numbers guy, responsible sort, whatever - for possible future use. Because he truly believes that the world works by people using other people, the I scratch your back, you scratch mine philosophy, he will be "nice" to you and butter you up with acts of "kindness", as long as he wants you dangling from his string. This is how he functions. Trust me, I've seen it in living color for 10 1/2 years and now have the diagnosis to substantiate it.

    My personal theory is that add alone can come across in a similar way, but lacks the mindset behind what I see in my spouse. Plain old ADD does not have the engrained sense of entitlement that he displays, or the utter lack of concern for others' feelings. ADD may be overwhelmed by feelings and not be able to readily empathise, but people with add do not view feelings as inherently weak and despicable. Does that make sense? This goes far beyond a person being pragmatic. What I'm talking about here is someone who, when push comes to shove, assumes that you are using your feelings to manipulate him. Why? I think, because that's what he does to others.

    A neighbor may borrow a tool and neglect to return it, but this particular personality will borrow it as though the only reason you had it is cuz he needed to use it and when he is done, the tool (along with your ownership of it) becomes irrelevant.

    Yikes.

     

     

  • Scumbag Universe by: jackrungh 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Let me preface this post by saying that I don't believe in anything supernatural. I have no religion, and I am not in any way (even vaguely) spiritual. I'm being facetious.


    So this morning we set out early and drove almost an hour away to an apple orchard. One of those "you-pick" agri-tourism outfits where you pay for a basket and you let the kids tear through their orchard having fun picking apples. We do these kinds of things mainly because my wife was at one time a professional photographer, and it is a good backdrop for fall pictures of the kids.

    So we are headed out there and I'm listening to the radio in the car. Most of the time audio in the car is a Disney singalong CD or my wife's country station, but every so often I can get away with listening to something else. For whatever reason I'm in a mode of thought where this sends a message but first from the radio comes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCUXR3ept00

    And immediately after that:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3ruuml-R4

    Eh? Maybe I'm being emo and trying to find messages everywhere. Right after the second song: commercials. First commercial? A law firm that specializes in amicable divorce.

    Thanks universe, thanks.

     

    Love the one you're with? Yeah.. there are a few great reasons to make sure that happens:

    http://i61.tinypic.com/9vkz2o.jpg

  • My husband has ADHD and his not in the mood is more frequently by: MWOOD473 10 years 3 weeks ago

    He loves his games and his computer. We have had our bout with porn I had no Ideal when we married him being 39 and never married and not having sex with no one for about 4 years I came along we got married had sex for a year ..year and a half now he's not in the mood. We went to counseling for porn addition and have blocked all home access on the home computer and TV I have codes to that and he agreed after several threats of me leaving if he continued to look at porn. But this I'm not in the mood is new he is 41 I am 40. It said on the forum I seen on here that a person with ADD/ADHD that there moods will be that way this is all new to me when I married him I did not know the ADD/ADHD thing nor the porn addition nor how bad he plays games . I thought he was shy how could a nice man and so sweet have no girlfriend nor a wife and be single so long I know now we have over come so much but the not in the mood makes me wonder if he is sneaking back and looking at porn again.

  • Affluent ADD partner - how to proceed? by: LePetitPrince85 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Hi,

    After several years, I've realized my partner is high-functioning ADD. He has blurts and doesn't hear me a majority of the time, although he tries to do well. My self-worth was very badly damaged, but I love him and I am realizing that I fell in love with someone with a disorder. I'm a professional, bull-headed type who has never responded well...but now I understand that he can't help it.

     

    Here are my questions: 1) How can I make him realize that I want him to learn, but it's a two-way street? I have a therapist I'd love to share, but it's "leading a horse to water"...

    2) How do I handle the hateful blurts? I'm an "affirmation" guy, which makes things very difficult. 

    Really, any help is appreciated - I'm new at this. I could use any advisement, but I probably identify best with the high-earner ADD spouses. The confused, German-car driving spouses that drink because they don't know why they're not up to snuff any longer. Please be direct and stay on track - let me know what's worked for you, and we can exchange experiences. 

  • Fuming - need advice! by: frustratedwife 10 years 3 weeks ago

    I haven't been here in awhile but had a huge fight with my husband last night and I'm feeling in need of some venting.  I'm 3000 miles from home because we are out of state attending my father-in-law's memorial service.  My FIL died a couple of months ago so all of the planning and preparing was done before we got here.  We couldn't fly in to help right after he passed because we only had the money to make one trip (because my husband hasn't worked in a couple of years) and my MIL wanted us to be here for the service.  I had been saving for a small vacation anyway so I made arrangements to come be here for 4 days for the family then go on vacation for 5 days about 3 hours away from MIL's house so we could relax afterwards (I haven't had a vacation in years).  But things have now blown up in my face and my husband says it's all my fault.

    Ever since I arrived I've been cooking for his relatives and helping out.  I've done the grocery shopping and errands because there was nothing here to eat and lots of things that needed to be done (even though we had been told everything was taken care of).  My husband on the other hand has been preoccupied with his boat.  He wanted to take it with us on our vacation, and I know he will make my life miserable if he doesn't get to take it, so he has been busy repairing it so it's sea-worthy while I cook and clean and shop.  So two nights ago while we are eating dinner he makes some negative comments about the food that I had prepared.  Everyone else seemed to be enjoying it but he had to say what comes to mind and he was critisizing how I seasoned the meat.  As usual, I just jokingly played it off even though I was hurt and embarrassed.  (And by the way I seem to have to do this every time we go somewhere because he is always opening his mouth and making a fool of himself or being rude to someone for no good reason). Then last night he did the same thing and that was just the last straw.  I got up and walked out.  Today I have been alone all day and tomorrow is the service.  I don't feel like going because I don't want to see him and I don't want to be around his very ill-behaved grown children.  I was planning on just getting a flight back home this afternoon but the price was so expensive I just couldn't bring myself to do it.  Plus I will lose the full amount I paid for our vacation rental.  There is nobody here for me to talk too because they are all his relatives and I can't call and talk to my friends and relatives because they don't understand why I'm with him in the first place.  I feel very alone and I just want to run away!

    It seems like my life now consists of me crying or us arguing.  I have a hard time letting things go when they affect me too.  I also have a hard time dealing with his lack of filter (what comes to his mind comes out his mouth) and the procrastination and the lack of work ethic (he says he isn't going to stress himself out working jobs that are demanding and so far in our 8 years of marriage he hasn't found one that isn't).  All of the stress is always on me.  Funny how I wasn't stressed before we married and I was doing the same job I am now.  But now I have a grown man-child to care for who always seems to be causing some sort of problem and I find myself constantly stressed and angry.  I'm sick of the name calling and threats when things don't go his way.  I feel like a fool to have stuck around this long but every time I threaten to file for divorce he starts making threats about destroying my life.  UGH!

  • Support? by: CrystalBlueSunshine 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Hi;

    I am a type A, disciplined neat freak. I am married to an ADD man and have been with him for 21 years. We have two children and a lot of family responsibilities. I am so exhausted, stressed, angry,and desperate. I have no one to talk to, no one to help me, no hope, no life because I go non-stop every day, all day, and most of the night. Haven't slept in two days. If my family knew the truth of my existence they would hate my husband forever and insist I get a divorce immediately. They are probably right but I am embarrassed and utterly and completely destroyed by what this ADD has done to me and what used to be my life. I can't even imagine any kind of support right now but I'm putting myself out there. Can anyone give me any hope at all? 

  • Married but Functioning as a Single Parent by: CrystalBlueSunshine 10 years 3 weeks ago

    Hello everyone:

    Gosh, after reading so many of these posts I see that I am not alone and it is interesting to see that my husband has almost the exact same issues as everyone here. I have been with this man for 21 years and have two children: one has ADHD and I suspect the other one does too. I have more empathy for the children because they are children but this man is driving me to the brink of insanity. So here I am. I count my husband as my third child which is embarrassing and ridiculous to me. I am a type A, very orderly, neat, person and I live with three people who cannot seem to manage their lives in any way. My personality type is probably the reason this marriage has lasted this long.and honestly I would have ended the marriage the first year except we had our first child by then and I wanted to give it my all for the baby's sake. My story echoes many of your stories here. I met my husband at work and he was charming, funny, cute, compassionate, romantic, and I instantly liked him very much. When I went to his apartment it was messy which surprised me because on dates his car was always neat and clean. This probably should have been my first clue but he was so great I thought no big deal, if this works out I can tidy that up it's ok. I thought once it's clean it will be easy to maintain. (Later he said his car was always cluttered with trash and so much stuff but he wanted to impress me so he cleaned it) and collected all the trash before each of our dates. He was so romantic, wrote me poems, brought me flowers and cards, was very attentive, held my hand, hugged me all the time, he was so great and I couldn't believe I had found someone like this. I first noticed the big change on our wedding day of all things. At the reception he ignored me, went around socializing and dancing with everyone except me. His wedding toast was about something random and had nothing to do with me, our wedding, or us a couple at all. I thought that was very strange and was embarrassed that he talked about something so obscure, so un-romantic, and so bizarre. I'm sure every guest was puzzled as well. I sat at the wedding table alone most of the night wondering what had happened. The honeymoon was mostly more of the same. He paid attention to other people most of the time but it still hadn't sunk in for me. I got pregnant right away but that wasn't planned: my doctor told me that, because of my history,  it would take a year to two years for me to get pregnant so we should not use any contraception because it was not needed and boy was he WRONG. I was surprised but thought ok we are married so let's do this. We were both working full-time and he worked many hours a week. He left early for work and came home late from work. At first when he didn't come home on time I worried that something had happened to him. He was fine and showed up hours late, happy as a clam, because he was socializing with his colleagues. Despite me asking him to call me if he was going to be late, so I didn't worry, he never did and this pattern continued and continues to this day:21 years later. So many parties and social events I have sat alone. Many New Year's Eve parties left me alone at midnight while he was off talking with others. Oblivious to me and what midnight on the New Year entailed. I looked around and all the couples were together and I was usually alone. He never contributed to the household chores, shopping, cleaning, everything was my responsibility even waking him up and keeping him on schedule. It was hard. I mentioned it to his mom who became instantly angry and told me that I was a poor housekeeper and if I couldn't take care of the house then I needed to hire a maid. His mom's husband has ADHD and she does everything for him and seems to enjoy it: of course she didn't work and had a housekeeper and a nanny. I couldn't afford to hire house staff lol I thought it was a ridiculous thing to say but I kept it to myself and kept on doing everything. After a while I became angry and resentful. I made him sit down with me and went over my talking points one by one and he said he was sorry, he didn't realize,and he would start doing his share. I was satisfied. That wasn't so hard. He did not follow through and continued to live his life as a single man while I literally did everything including taking care of the baby except when he was in daycare: I had to work full-time on top of all of this. He said we couldn't afford for me to quit or even to go part-time even though he made close to six figures a year with great benefits. I sucked it up. Over time I sat him down countless times and he always said he would change. He never did. Finally it got to the point where I told him if we didn't go to counseling I was going to file for divorce. He became angry and nasty and refused to go to counseling so I told him I would go by myself and if he didn't want to even try that was on him. He finally agreed to go but he really didn't participate. By this time we had two children and again he did nothing. Even if he was off the next day and I had to work (usually 13 hours a day) he refused to get up with the baby or our other son. If the children were sick it was all me. When he was sick he was an invalid on the couch not being able to lift a finger to help himself. We saw the counselor for almost three years, yes, three years. I learned that all of my problems with the marriage stemmed from this ADD and so my husband went to a doctor and was diagnosed and started medication. He kept saying there was no change but he did start doing 5% of the family responsibilities and I thought well it's a start. He never progressed beyond 5% and many times he went back to being a single male who ignored me except when he wanted sex. His life was his work and his parent, his friends, anything but me and the children. He was absent even when he was home: always watching TV alone, on the computer, sleeping, or "helping" all these people he barely knew with odd jobs and such. The years went by. I became more tired every day, was getting sometimes as little as two hours sleep taking care of the family responsibilities, the two children, and him while working full-time at a brutal job with long hours as many as 16 hour a day with no breaks. He worked 8 hours a day but always stayed after work to socialize.  I left work, picked up the kids, went home to a house that was a mess. My anger, resentment, and exhaustion grew even worse. I told him that we had to move near my parents because I couldn't do all of this and I needed help. He agreed to move. I left within three weeks and he promised he would follow soon. Two years later he was still five hours away, at his same job, in the same house, while I lived with my parents who helped me so much. They taught my children to read and write and played with them and they were wonderful. I was able to sleep and the house was clean and my parents were always there for me with a hot meal when I got off work and the children bathed, read to, and tucked into bed. They knew I worked hard and they were worried about me. Again I threatened divorce and demanded he move and be part of his family. The children had forgotten who he was and didn't know him at all even though he came to visit once or twice a month. Finally, he quit his job and moved and we got a house together. It was the same. I did everything. What things I couldn't do like mow the lawn, fix stuff in the house etc. fell to him but he either never did these things or did half of the job or kept putting me off. He put in some flooring 12 years ago and it still isn't done. So many projects ignored, half done, and he became angry when I reminded him. At this point he is at his worst. He can't remember anything,misses birthdays, even the children's, and all special events. He hasn't given me a gift or flowers or a card in years and years. I do all the holiday shopping for both families, wrap them, ship them, etc. He still works a lot and goes in early and stays late. He changes his work schedule frequently to accommodate his job and his coworkers at a moment's notice which wreaks havoc with my full-time job, child care, and all the responsibilities. When the children are sick he refuses to call out of work to take care of them so I have to call out of work. I almost lost my job over this several times. Lately he has developed strange behaviors like moving the furniture around to make himself more comfortable. Stacking things on top of every surface so stuff falls on the floor and he doesn't see it. Throwing his clothes all over the house. Not noticing the dog needs to go out you know in like 14 hours so the dog goes to the bathroom in the house every time I go to work. He doesn't notice it. The trash overflows he doesn't see it. He leaves drawers open every day. If he takes something out of the refrigerator he leaves the door open. No matter how many times I ask him to fix his ways he gets mad or ignores me and he keeps doing it. The house is not messy anymore it's a nightmare. I am so stressed out. I cannot go to work and then work in the house every waking moment. On the rare occasion he cooks he cooks only for himself and messes up every surface in the kitchen including the floor and leaves it there. Sorry, I know I am writing so much but I think I just need to put this out there to help relieve my stress. So now I haven't slept in two days, my hair is falling out, my blood pressure is up and my doctor wants to put me on meds, I am losing weight, I have headaches every day and backaches too. The worst thing is I have started having anxiety attacks and the anger of course. Such anger. He won't talk to me, ignores the children, and lives his own life coming and going as he pleases without regard to the family. I had to reduce my hours at work because I can't afford childcare and my parents moved far away. Now he tells me I have to go back to work full-time because we can't pay the bills but he refuses to refinance the house or trade in his gas guzzling car which eats up about $600 a month in gas alone.I am in college full-time and working 30 hours a week and still doing everything at home. He is a messy and dirty guest in my home who ignores the family. He has major bouts of anger and he is impatient and obnoxious when he interacts with us. 21 years of this. Today I BLEW UP. He took one of my children out of school, I found out after the fact, and put him in online school saying he was going to take responsibility for the7 hours of school work a day.  Ok so my son is ADHD and is completely irresponsible, immature, and un-disciplined. When I pointed out that this was a very bad idea, he should've discussed it with me first, and I felt it would eventually fall to me and it did. Keep in mind I work 40 hours a week and drive 10 hours a week to and from work, I have four classes in college which I am now failing because he won't help at all. I noticed today that one of my son's teachers sent an email stating my son might be expelled from online school because there were so many things not turned in. I asked hubby about it and he said no they were turned in. No they weren't I just printed out an inch thick stack of work that has to be done. On top of that he was supposed to have an online meeting with the teacher today. I asked him should I do it and he said no he was going to do it. He promptly lay down on the couch and went to sleep a half hour before the meeting. I had to do it. We got in a huge fight in front of the kids because when I showed him all the work that my son was missing he started yelling at me, saying  thats enough, stop talking, etc.I lost it. Started screaming back. He yelled some more for me to shut up and then turned his back on me to go online while I am still yelling. He is extremely rude for the last 8 years or so. After that he went back to sleep and I spent hours on school work with my son and neglected my own college projects. It is likely I will be kicked out of my program in December because I just cannot do all of this for four people and do literally everything. He is still sleeping five hours later. I cry everyday. I don't think I can live with him anymore. The only thing that could save our marriage is if we don't live together because he makes more of a mess than the kids and the dog combined. I do dishes twice a day, pick up soda cans all day long, pick up clothes off the floor, I mean it's like he has a party at the house every day it's so bad. Stuff everywhere. Things spill? They are left there. I once left some spilled cereal on the table with the bowl and all to see how long it would take for him to notice. Four days later I cried as I cleaned it up. I feel like I die a little each day. Now I get chest pains too and I think the stress is going to kill me. So here I sit. Alone, writing this novel of a post as a form of therapy I suppose. Again I apologize I have 21 years of frustration to vent. I looked at rentals today and am starting to plan how to move out. It is hard. I feel I am at the end of my rope and I am now in survival mode. I don't know how he is going to take me telling him that we need to go to counseling again and if he doesn't change I am divorcing him. I am DONE. In any case even if the marriage "survives" I don't want to live with him. He is a surly, rude slob who does nothing to help the family. The yard is a mess because he won't mow the grass.  His car is so full of trash, old food, cigarette butts all over, just crap everywhere. His dashboard is covered in papers and crap about four inches high. You can't put your feet on the floor cause it's covered in trash, papers, wires. He sometimes takes half of the junk from the car and puts them in boxes and stacks them up on the porch and the living room. the couches,every room of the house has boxes overflowing with crap, the  furniture in the house is covered in papers, wires, trash, it's starting to look I we should be on the TV show Hoarders. I am completely desperate and have no one to talk to, no one to help. I can see no hope for this relationship. I am so angry I could spit. I feel like I cannot even broach the subject of moving out, counseling etc. because I know he will yell and then I will scream it's over I want a divorce and I will leave. That will legally make me abandon the house and put me in a worse situation. :""(     Ok sorry I'm exhausted mentally and physically and haven't slept in two days and have to work 14 hours tonight, Saturday, and Sunday. Please forgive me this super long rant. I feel a tiny bit better. By the way what I have written here is the tip of the iceberg....

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