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  • Things that worked for this Mom by: I'm So Exhausted 10 years 1 month ago

    I was thinking about my 25 year old son today.  Thinking about how I got him to remember things I told him as he was growing up.  For a while I excused away stuff under the "Oh,  it must the the ADHD."  then I got wise.  

    The first issue I had was chewed bubble gum, wrapped up in the wrapper and placed in his pants pockets. We chew a lot of gum in our family - curbs the gnawing on pencils and fingernails.  It would just drive me crazy to go get a load of clean laundry out of the dryer, and find gum stuck all over the drum - melted and baked on like plastic.  I had to use Goo Gone, a scraper, and my time to get it off.  I told my son to stop putting the chewed gum in his pockets.  After the third time, I told him he had to clean the dryer. . . which took him forever to get around to doing.  The next time it happened, I wrote him a document stating that "Mom will charge you $10.00 dollars every time she has to clean your gum out of the dryer."  

    Guess what? After one time of having to pay me $10, he NEVER left gum in his pocket again.   

    Same thing worked with the clothes chute.  He would stuff in too many things at once and it would get blocked somewhere between the upstairs and the basement.  I posted a sign near the chute that said "Mom will charge $10.00 AND a 500 word essay to anyone who plugs the clothes chute."  It NEVER got plugged again.

    We had a running disagreement between my two children about WHO left the 1/2 empty cans of pop lying around.  They blamed each other, or even blamed their friends.  So my new rule was "For every can of pop that gets wasted, Son and Daughter will EACH get charged $5.00."  Of course they proceeded to tell me of the injustice of that rule.  However, I reminded them it was up to ALL OF US to remind each other of things, and to "have each others backs."  It was also important to remind their friends to drink the whole can of pop so it doesn't get wasted.  Amazing how well it worked!!!

    One dollar would not have worked.  Pinch their spending money, and all of a sudden, they remember quite well!!!

    My children's currency happened to be be actual currency.  

  • Progress comes from unexpected direction by: Tired-to-my-bones 10 years 1 month ago

    Last week we had a blip. Husband had his w/e all mapped out. Friday night after work tying flies in readiness to go fishing. Fishing all day Saturday. Football on Sunday. I knew this was going to happen. It wasn't sprung on me as has happened all too often in the past. On Sunday after the football he came home and  watched the re-run on TV. And after that he switched over to watch a football review programme. And then he watched X Factor. Prior to this on the Friday night I knew I was too tired to cook and suggested that we pop into our local pub to eat. He initially said 'no' - his preferred response to the vast majority of things I say or suggest. I explained that it would be nice to spend a couple of hours checking in with each other because he was going to be out and about all w/e. He still had plenty of time to tie flies. I got upset. He managed to turn his tunnel vision around and I managed to stop myself going into free fall about yet another small request being rejected because he was focused only on what he wanted. We went out. We congratulated ourselves on pulling ourselves back from the brink of the usual unpleasant dance.

    The w/e passed. On Sunday,having sat with him and been companionable through all the TV, none of which I wanted to watch, he went to switch channels again. I gently said that he needed to check in with me. That it would be good if he simply asked if there was anything we could share together. His response was to huffily pass me the remote and say 'you choose then'. I said that that wasn't the point. That it was important to not just keep going ahead on his own agenda and that it was important and polite to recognise that he wasn't the only person in the room. 'What do want? I've given you the remote. What more do you want?' came the reply. He looked angry and spoke angrily. Ok I say. Let's rewind. Let's start again. I reframed my point. He sat there with a face like a slapped arse. He got defensively aggressive. I tried again. Gently, slowly and patiently. He continued to be entrenched. I got up and walked out. To calm down. I returned to tell him that I had held up 2 ladders to help him climb out of the hole he had dug and that he had just sh*t in it. And then I went to bed. In bed I reflected that having made good progress over the past few months, my patience threshold had thinned again. I asked my self what had caused this. And the conclusion I came to was that although I thought I could manage his reluctance to read past page 28 in Melissa's book, I couldn't. I was harbouring resentment about his procrastination, his delaying tactics. In the morning I left the book on the kitchen table bookmarked at page 29.

    Fast forward a few days. I get a text saying that he was going to see his sister and would I like to come over. We could pick up some food on the way back to save cooking. I needed to have a nap so declined the trip over but said yes to picking up food. I had dinner planned but that could wait. Not to worry came the reply. Sister out. Would you like me to cook? Yes I said. The nap was taken and feeling refreshed I thought, 'I know. I'll start the cooking and he won't have to set to when he comes in.' A kindly deed. Half way through preparing dinner he walked in with a take away. Walked past me with it, not noticing that I was cooking. Oh, I say, you've brought food in. Yes he says. I said I would. No I say. You said you would cook. What's the difference he says. The difference, I say, is that out of kindness I got up from my nap,and thinking of you, I got dinner started. You said that you would cook, not get food in. Things got heated. Harsh words were exchanged.He stormed out. He returned. I apologised for losing my temper. We rewind. We reach an equilibrium. Again.

    He picked up Melissa's book. He started again at the beginning. And read past page 28. He actually spoke about what he had been reading with no prompting from me. He acknowledged that he was all the things he had been reading. He wanted to get things right.

     

    Fast forward to last night. His sister comes over. We have an extremely illuminating few hours talking about a current family crisis (his)  that has culminated in them sharing how fed up they are with another sibling who has behaved extraordinarily badly. She shares her anger about this sibling and how it has been going on since she was little. He shares that he has discovered that he has ADHD. And that the impact on our marriage has been immense.They share family anecdotes. I am listening. They talk about how in their family, which is a loud argumentative, but 'loving' one, that conflict was dealt with by simply saying 'Let's not argue about this. Let's forget it. Let's move on.' I comment that it sounded like they were left holding their hurts and internalising them to preserve the family story that they were a happy, united set up. The conflicts were not dealt with openly and fairly.

    After she left we carry on talking. He tells me that the things his sister has talked about are similar to the things I have been telling him. He didn't realise that she had been so badly hurt by their mother's behaviour.I tell him that it is important for me to feel acknowledged and validated. He gets very cross because he feels that that is what he had done with his sister. I point out that this is a good thing to tell her about the ADHD. I suggest that the next step is to examine what effect the story that he has constructed about his family, has had on us. He has always said whenever I have commented on something about his mum 'Well you've never liked her' (not true). Conversation ebbs and flows. He gets angry. I get upset. He soothes. We rewind. I get angry. He gets upset. I soothe.  We rewind. We continue to talk. 

    At one point he breaks down completely and cries. I can count on one hand the times I have seen him cry. I can't do this I can't do this he says. It's too hard. He falls into the hole of self pity. I'm a bastard. I've treated you badly. My head's completely f*cked up. Is it going to take the next 30 years to put right what's been done over the past 30 years?

    AND THEN......... And then...... he starts connecting the dots. He admits to siding with his family against me. He admits to the scapegoating that he and his family have inflicted on me.He admits to wanting to control me. He admits to using the fact that I have always been open about the dysfunction of my own family as a way of feeling superior about his family. And that he has blamed me all these years for any conflict between us. Because my family was so dysfunctional. He admits that his mum isn't able to offer emotional support and advice. That she isn't the demi-goddess that he has always believed. That there is dysfunction at the heart of the mythological family that he has created in his head.

    I glimpsed the scared little boy who had been let down by his mother because she hasn't been able to provide what he needed, whilst telling him the opposite. Who had sold him a story of family life that was based around her own dysfunctions.  I glimpsed the anxious, fragile soul who has spent his life buying into this myth and who has resented me, an incomer, telling him that the empress has no clothes on.

    He was shattered. He had sat in the 'truth' chair and found the strength to acknowledge and validate so many of the things I have talked about for so many years. 

    Thank you, thank you sister in law. You too have been on a long, hard, brave journey to discover yourself and in doing so, may have helped your brother to open up and examine who and what he is.

    He's gone fishing again today. That's ok. We both need time apart to assimilate this.

    I continue to be hopeful.

     

  • Diagnosis Appointment on Monday by: Dipity 10 years 1 month ago

    Hello All

    DH has 1st diagnosis appointment on Monday here in the UK. We are both worried about it for very different reasons I think.  Do any of you have any advice on what to expect at the appointment?  

  • Just wondering about this idea on ADHD by: I'm So Exhausted 10 years 1 month ago

    ADHD is an issue of "performance" rather than "behavior."  

    Any thoughts?

     

    Liz

  • Ridiculous call to me from H! by: Anonymous (not verified) 10 years 1 month ago

    So I was out of state visiting my Mom for a week and just got back yesterday. H did not go with me. On the 3rd day of my visit I receive a call from H. I did not have my phone on me at the time and didn't get the voice mail until the next morning. I noted the time he called as 9PM on a Saturday night. I listen to it and he says "Can you PLEASE not empty my trash in the garage? I had a part for my motorcycle sitting on top of the garbage can and it had fallen in. I normally wouldn't have left it there but seeing as how the trash wasn't full I didn't see it as a problem. I just spent 2 hours looking for that part and then it dawned on me where it was and now it's gone. Sorry to be a bummer, but (sigh) I'll just have to buy a new part."

    Okay am I crazy or is this totally NOT my fault?! A part you need is IN THE GARBAGE, not on top of the garbage, but IN THE GARBAGE and you just left it there? He hadn't touched his bike in 3 months and I took out that garbage almost a month ago and he is just now noticing it? And why oh why did that require a call to me at 9PM on a Saturday night just to make me feel bad about throwing it out? Was anything going to be accomplished by that? It's gone, I'm 2000 miles away and not back for another 4 days. You couldn't have brought this up on my return? So of course me feeling bad about it gave him my credit card number and told him to buy another one. He responds back that it's not a big deal and it's only $50 and he had already purchased it. I transferred him $50 anyways. Only $50 and he felt he needed to make a big deal about it. You'd think I trashed a $1000 part! Then I get home last night and he shows me the bike and it's all done. So you could have done all this, replaced the part and I wouldn't have been any the wiser as to what happened but you just had to make me feel bad about it. And what I don't understand is that he new the part had been in the trash and saw that the trash was now empty but still took 2 hours to look for it? If you knew it was gone then why did you spend all that time looking for it?

  • I just don't know if I can do it anymore by: WornOutMB 10 years 1 month ago

    My husband left me and our son 8 weeks ago.  We have been married 29 years so it is a big adjustment for me. At this point my husband says he is not getting any kind of help (he doesn't think he needs it) and is not coming back.  He threatens divorce just about every time I talk to him. He's said this so many times I can't count. Some days I feel a sense of freedom and some days I feel a devastating loss.  I keep remembering the early days of our marriage when things were good and he was focused on our relationship, was kind and loving.  Then at other times I think of how it has been the last several years and I don't think I can do that anymore even if he wants to come back.  I'm taking things day by day but really wonder what is my ultimate goal. I really don't know at this point.  I think I would like my husband in my life but not sure if I want him here as my husband.  This is hard for me because I really don't favor divorce but I'm really getting to the point in my life where the stress of dealing with him as his wife and his untreated ADHD was too overwhelming.  Do others feel this way?

  • sleep patterns, twitching, snoring, 3am by: dedelight4 10 years 1 month ago

    Another question here about sleep patterns. It's been done in this forum before, but it's been a while. I noticed a couple of other posts in another area about how some ADHD'ers sleep schedules are difficult for us non's, as well as body twitching, severe snoring, separate sleep rooms,  tearing up the bed covers, and coming to bed at 3:00 AM.

        Is this also a part of the brain disfunction? or is this a learned thing? My husband used to snore so bad, I couldn't hardly get any sleep. (for years) He had nasal surgery and wore a C-pap machine, but doesn't anymore. Snores sometimes now, but not as much. He tosses and turns to where he really tears up the bed covers, and even rips off the BOTTOM sheet off the bed. (he blames that on bad sheets, but my side doesn't do it) lol

        The thing that distresses me the most is that he most always has come to bed at 3 AM. But, NOT QUIETLY. He comes in the room, turns on the light, bangs around for a bit, talks, fiddles around, WAKES ME UP, and then HE wants me to be quiet so he can "get to sleep". FRUSTRATING!!!!!!. It's been so long now, that even if he goes to bed early, I just automatically WAKE UP out of a sound sleep at 3 AM, every single night. I HATE THAT.

         But, my main question is.......Is this normal for most ADHD'ers? Has anyone else worked anything out as far as having their ADHD partner be a little understanding towards their "sleeping" partner? and not try to wake them up?

  • What to do when your spouse is in denial of his symtems by: peggy1970 10 years 1 month ago

    Greetings everyone. I am writing today as a cry for help. I have reads  few of the posts and I feel quite inspired. My story is long but, I will try to make it as short as possible. Please excuse me if I babble also. Right now my emotions are all over the place.

    I have reconnected with my first real love after about 28 years. We had remained friends and often talked about getting back together. When the opportunity presented itself we did. I have always loved him but we were young. I still love him and I want to help but he is resistant.

    Shortly after moving in together I began to realize things about him that I did not before.  He displays feelings of negativity, self-doubt, pity, fear, confusion, insecurity, anger, and a total lack of trust.

    For example: in most cases couple will recap arguments and try communicating each side. For me if and when I attempt no matter how gentle or mild he automatically takes this as an attack and begins to rant about other things like working hard and bending over backward to make me happy.

    He often feels that everyone in his small town is out to get him and even occasionally accuses me too.

    He is constantly saying that people are stopping him from being successful. It is never his fault.                

    He takes things so hard. Just last night I mentioned to him that he should get some rest for hard work in the morning. I made a joke and said, start counting your sheep. So he became offended and said you count your sheep.  So I said joking ok, you count your sheep and ill count mine. He replied so, now we are separate. So I gently pulled up on line and had to explain counting sheep.

    Secondly, if something happens or something breaks, instead of it being just an occurrence it is someone who is against him or wanting to hurt him. Example: The upholstery of counsel in the truck was coming apart he insists that one of the guys working with him that he gave a ride home took it apart.

    I have tried to express talking to his doctor. He refuses. I try to make examples of thing to help support what I’m trying to say. 10n out of 12 it’s a bust. I’m most cases to him, level headed people making proper since are difficult and difficult people make since.

    Sometimes I can’t use the phone; he is peeking over my back accusing me of talking to another man or just talking about him.

    One day he to me to a bar and when he left to go to the rest room someone he knew made a pass at me so, I told home. Ever since then we can no longer go there and there’s been accusations that I’m secretly involved with this person. I have tried to explain over again that this man as well as most of them in this little town is not my type. He is stuck on what he believes. He also thinks that if we move away it will go away. i don't think so. that's another attempt to run.'

    Sometimes he will call me and automatically asked me where I am or who is over

    He takes everything very hard and literal even simple things.

    He has even gone as far as accusing me of speaking in foreign voices

    I am always having to reassure him that I love him and there no one else.

    One day I was dropping him off at work and the phone rang. It was the guy working with him. I answered the call thinking he needed help.  He instantly got angry and said now the guys will think he is stupid because I answered the phone. Also he says now the guy has heard my voice and may be interested in me.  I explained that I was only trying to help. I knew they were going to a job and I thought the guy needed some directions. My apology was not good enough. He said we needed to separate. He said that was very serious and he’s still harping on it. It’s been 6-months.

    My family is convinced that I will become mentally ill if I keep taking this on but I love him and I want to help him. I can’t diagnose his condition but from conversations an evidence I have been able to ascertain that when people cant deal with this the up and run that’s why starting over always seems to be the best solution for him and when he does it always ends up the same way. I remember him sharing with me how he was engaged 3 times and each time it got closer to the wedding the girl would change the dates further out.

    Sometimes he expresses how afraid he is of losing me. He says that the men in his town are famous for homwrecking and he does not want any of them to take me from him. I can’t stress enough that they can’t take me if I am not interested. He does not it get.

    I am on a constant on a thinking binge to determine what exactly it is that he suffering with.

    I feel he’s defiantly needs to be medicated

    I feel he’s is defiantly insecure

    I need help with the medical part. I even believe that it is multiple medical conditions.

    I feel like leaving so that he can pick up with someone else and the cycle can continue and he may then realize that he is the problem.

    I love him and I want to stay with him. He is not physically abusive infect other than the mental he is a fairytale man in a woman’s dream. He opens doors, takes me out, always checks to see if I need anything, pumps gas, cooks, helps with chores, family oriented, etc.……

    One day I built up the guts to ask his mom about it she has confessed that she knows he does this.

    However they are small minded people to some extent and I have to be careful of what I say and ask. They are all quite defensive.

    So I’m quite alone in my permute to get help. I’m lost and don’t know how or where to begin.

    It is common for this to be ignored. In his family his oldest sister is mentally retarded. One of his other brothers has some mental issues and when he told me about it I said to myself and you escaped. Lol

    Sometimes I’m afraid. I don’t know what’s coming next.

    Any help. Please!

     

     

  • I am lost and don't know where to turn by: sanpedro 10 years 1 month ago

    My wife and I have 3 sons. One is ADHD (impulsive and attention def) while the other two are ADD (attention only). I was most likely ADHD (impulsive and attention) too as a child based on all the family stories. This simple fact makes me feel both horribly guilty for having passed this disorder on to my children and highly protective of them as I know first hand how it feels to be different.

    The challenge we now face as a family is that my wife is unable to cope with our ADHD child. She is very controlling and he is not easy. He is medicated and it seems to help but he still has lots of challenges. He is a twin and just turned 6 years old. Its all the more challenging when he is constantly compared to his calm and very smart brother.

    There have been two incidents (one recently and one about a year ago) where I thought that I need to get a divorce so I can protect my children. My wife has a big load on her given the fact that I have a huge job that requires significant travel. We have had hired lots of people to help ease that burden including au pair's, gardeners, cleaning service etc but still it is a lot. The biggest challenge is that my wife hates my 6 year old. She has said such unbelievably hateful things as "I wish he was never born," and "he is such a fuck up and such an embarrassment," and more recently "he has ruined our family." Did I mention he is 6--- s-i-x!!!!

    She gets angry at me because I don't have any empathy for her. She claims that she says these things in anger and needs to get rid of her feelings by vocalizing things. I don't care how angry she gets such vitriol is unfathomable to me. I try talking to her about having empathy for him-- making analogies like imagine his challenges were physical like CP or something. In addition to being controlling she is also very selfish. I suppose you can probably tell that there isn't much left in the tank of our marriage but given the choice between my children and my wife its no contest for me.

    Having said that I don't know if a divorce would be helpful to the children. I am the child of divorce and I can tell you first hand it was a horrible thing to go through as a child. It is true that I am not feeling empathetic towards her even though I get it on an intellectual level. I just feel this instinct to remove me and my children from a loveless environment. It breaks my heart that my wife doesn't love our son. Like I said... I am lost and desperate for advice and don't feel like I can talk to anyone about this. Please help!

  • How to divy up the chores by: I'm So Exhausted 10 years 1 month ago

    I realize I got myself in this current position by assuming responsibility for everything my spouse left undone.

    So, now in this grown-up world of no parenting my husband, what do I do?  Literally, what are the steps.  I cook on my agreed upon day.  My spouse forgets his day.  I cook on my agreed upon  day.  My spouse forgets his day.  Right now, I cook if I want.  Otherwise, it is every man for himself.  You find it, you can eat it.  

    That just seems so wrong.  And feels very lopsided  for me.  He doesn't care.  I do.  Now what steps do I take for this situation.   And what about the grocery shopping?  

    I guess some may think this is humorous.  It really sorta is, no doubt about it.  Grown people bickering over chores. The good news we no longer talk about it.  No arguing.  No snide comments. But, this just ain't right.    I just need some lead on how to adjust it all.  

     

    Liz

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