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  • Sluggish Cognitive Tempo? by: ranaronnie 11 years 6 months ago

    I have been lurking here for a while. My husband of 20 years was recently diagnosed with ADHD-Inattentive type. It took my leaving to get him into diagnosis and treatment. I have experienced many of the problems discussed here: his chronic unemployment and related financial problems, mental exhaustion and  feeling like the only responsible adult in the house because he cannot seem to make or keep a to-do list, frustration and hopelessness, etc.

    We are actually back together and optimistic now. I am working on limiting my attempts at control to my own behavior, and trying to understand more about his condition so I can see it as a disease and not a moral failing. He is really trying to remember things, back in school, etc. Unfortunately, he lives in a very rural area, where there is no one who can coach him, and the only psychiatrist within 100 miles who takes our insurance is...long story short...unhelpful. He tried Ritalin, which gave him more energy and helped him process his feelings, but was not really helpful with his ability to focus. I have been fortunate that he has rarely performed any of the externalizing behavior I've also seen on this forum; no affairs, no addictions, no abusive behavior, etc. (Some deflection/denial and emotional outbursts, but never nasty towards me). He always has treated me like a queen, which is the only reason I stayed for so long.  Instead, he is socially withdrawn and full of self-loathing for having been a "failure" all his life. (He is on Wellbutrin for depression as well).

    In the course of my research on his condition, I have run across something called SCT (Sluggish Cognitive Tempo), which may be a type of ADHD or possibly a different type of attention disorder. (If they are different, I think my poor husband has both). Symptoms include feeling sluggish and slow, both physically and mentally (not IQ, just processing speed), being prone to errors, being in a mental  fog, and being shy/socially withdrawn. This describes my husband to a "T", along with the working memory and time orientation problems of ADHD. These characteristics have led my husband to feel that he has been a shy, lazy, clumsy failure his whole life, despite having an above-average IQ. (Being called those names by his sonofabitch stepfather as a child merely adds to the issues that he'll be working on in therapy. Sigh.)

    Anyway, I was wondering if anyone on here has experienced the same issues and can offer help. He will be moving in a couple of months to be with me physically and geographically again, but in the mean time, working with any kind of expert is unrealistic. Any self-help strategies for coping would be helpful, or even anything to boost his self-confidence. My greatest fear is that he is so invested in seeing himself as a failure (and has no realistic experience with success), that he feels doomed to fail at his efforts to change and save our marriage, and it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Thank you!

  • I don't know what to do by: justbeachy 11 years 6 months ago

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  • Panning for Gold by: I'm So Exhausted 11 years 6 months ago

    My paradigm of the Chain of Events:

    1.  My spouse is in the dining room, backing-up (walking).  I don't remember why he was walking backward.

    2.  My son is walking forward, carrying a bowl of 'right-off-the-stove' Ramen Noodle Soup.

    3.  I am standing near the stove.

    4.  A collision of the 2 men happens.  

    5.  I cry out my spouse's name.

    6.  Both men are splashed with boiling hot soup.

    7.  I am YELLED at by my spouse, because I chastised him.  He wants to know how I could yell at him?  He was the one who got burned with the soup.  He was walking backward, so it was my son's fault because he was walking forward.  

    I try to discern this . . .  but it is un-discernable.  

    I KNOW i was not chastising my spouse.

    I KNOW I was not accusing him of being in the wrong.

    I KNOW the only word out of my mouth was my spouse's  name.

    I KNOW it was in response to seeing the wetness on his sleeve from the boiling hot liquid.

    I just refused to rehash/replay/fight-a-losing battle. So the only thing I say is that my out-cry was a response of compassion to seeing the hot soup splash on him.

    Then I went upstairs.  Did some paperwork.  Then went to bed.

    8.  This AM my spouse walks into the room, and says,"I want to say again, I am sorry."  (He never had said he was sorry in the first place.)

    So I only can listen.  Grrr.  He just justified that he had already said he was sorry.  It feels as though he is re-writing history.  This is maddening.  

    It it so-o-o-o-o hard to glean his acknowledgement out of this.  However, I think it would be the right thing to do.  I am losing my ever-lovin'-mind. . . . . . . . . 

     

     

     

  • the final straw by: PoisonIvy 11 years 6 months ago

    My final straw came this week.  I don't talk to my husband much about our problems and he is happy for me not to do so.  But for me, although talking about things is hard, it seems just as bad to not talk about them.  So, I brought up how frustrated I am.  My husband almost immediately redirected the conversation to explaining how my bad reactions cause him to respond the way he does.  Once again, he took off the table the thing that I see as the major problems:  that he won't look for a better job and that he is contributing only minimally to the family, financially and in other ways.  

    I had been contemplating filing for a separation in a few weeks.  That night, I decided that I don't want to wait even that long.  I'm going to go in Monday morning to our local courthouse.  

    Do I feel guilty, sad, ambivalent, angry, frustrated?  Yes, I do.  But I tried so many things before.  Nothing helped.  I am spent and ready to move on.  Please wish me courage and strength.

  • What its like to have ADHD by: katetd 11 years 6 months ago

    What its like to have ADHD

    Im an adult woman with Innattentive Type ADHD. My 12 year old daughter has the same. I was only diagnosed after things were not getting cognitively better, but worse after going through aggressive medical treatment for advanced breast cancer almost 10 years ago when my daughter was 3. Im in remission from the cancer but my undiagnosed ADHD has been exacerbated in a big way! This hasnt been helped by medically induced menopause, and having no oestrogen in my body - Im not adviced to take supplements because of the risk of cancer recurrence. There have been many other stressors along the way and still today that mean I struggle to function effectively in the ways ai once could after years of trial and error trying to manage my undiagnosed AdHd and some of its it near catastrophic consequences in my life. My husband took my difficulties very personally for years before I was diagnosed. And then he just told me I had to fix it. He resisted (as did I initially)for years my daughters diagnoses of ADHD and sadly also misinterpreted her behaviour very negatively for some time (even though he loves her to bits) before he was able to eventually accept the diagnoses. But he still does not seem to be too interested to educate himself further about the understanding the symptoms of ADHD and therefore still often misinterprets them & expects certain solutions that are not applicable. when ever I have tried to suggest this to him he gets angry saying he knows too well what is like to live around aDHD (which of course not what Im asking him to seek further understanding about!) & just keeps telling me its up to me to fix things & sort things out. He gets angry at me often for my behaviour & has become constantly critical and contemptuous. I wish he could spend even a day inside my head. I wrote the following descriptions of what I feel ADHD is like to live with at times but I have not given it to him as Im not sure that he really wants to know. Im feeling a bit down & hopeless about it at the moment of writing this but Im getting support & help & have some good friends around me who do understand.

    Some of these descriptions Ive come across and strongly related to, others are my own:
    Sometimes its like being lost & bewildered in a huge noisy supermarket with flashing lights all over the place & lots of TVs turned on to different stations, not properly tuned & with volume up full blast. 
    Sometimes Its like I have an orchestra in my head that might be made up of some very skilled and talented musicians but who are trying to play a complex piece without a conductor or with a conductor who is dysfunctional. Everybody's playing at once and out of time, tune & its a cacophony! 
    Sometimes Its like being in a room with hundreds of people all urgently shouting at once to get my attention. 
    Sometimes its like being sucked into a vacuum so strongly that I lose all sense of time, perspective, whats going on around me and any idea of what else I was supposed to be doing. 
    Sometimes it feels like being an alien being that cannot understand the language, behaviours, rituals, expectations, priorities of the strange land I suddenly find yourself in.
    Sometimes its like having too many things going on in my head at same time, not knowing what to focus on & constantly forgetting things that seemed (or were) very important at the time. Its like having all these cogs or insects whirring around incredibly fast & uncontrollably inside my skull.
    Sometimes its like trying to wade through treacle that is slowly sucking me down & the harder I try the stronger it sucks me down until I feel as if I might or I am going to drown.
    Sometimes its like being in a constant impenetrable fog. I cant hear, see, feel or make sense of anything around me.
    Sometimes it is unbearably overwhelming and exhausting because my brain & all my bodily senses cannot filter anything out. It can be so bad it is impossible not too shut down, switch off or over react to the slightest sound, sight, physical sensation, another unwelcome thought or word etc.
    Sometimes it is like having a car with a powerful engine but faulty break & steering wheel and uses to much fuel too quickly.
    Sometimes the amount of concentration, energy & time it takes for me to get things done in an efficient and organised way leaves me feeling completely incapable of functioning on any level by the end of the day. 
    Some times my heart breaks over and over and over again when people I love consistently misinterpret & react against my symptomatic behaviour as signs of selfishness, dishonesty, manipulation, not caring & lack of love. 
    Sometimes it can be so distressing I feel like I want someone to hit me over the head with a mallet to stop it. 
    There are things I can do to take responsibility for managing my symptoms and my related behaviour. There are things I (& others in my life) can do towards better understanding and helping me to manage this stuff. But I and others need to also accept that I will never be entirely free of and will always be prone to the symptoms of my ADHD. 

  • No hope left by: Need to Breath 2013 11 years 6 months ago

     Hi, This is the first time I have ever posted anything in my life. I am typically an insanely private person, but I’m at such a low point in my life I can’t help but reach out. I’ve been on an off of this website for a few years now and have gained some great insight, but haven’t activity participated in any of the discussions. I have certainly related with so many of the postings. I have been married for 13 years to an unbelievably loving and devoted man, who is a phenomenal father and all around wonderful person.  The only problem is I feel like I’m married to a child, and feel so alone in my marriage. My husband suffers greatly from ADD, and social anxiety (undiagnosed for first 9 years of our marriage). There were signs early on in our relationship for sure. I noticed that he would let me take the lead on EVERYTHING, and basically shy away if I asked him to manage something. It bothered me a bit, but not enough for me to really take a greater look into why he did it. We started dating when I was in my late twenties and he was in his early 30.  When we got married I owned my own home and he had lived with a roommate. He had a pretty decent job and was an infamous saver. He paid cash for everything and seemed unbelievably responsible and grounded. I had a great job and was living independently for a few years, and was in a good place. At first things were great.  We suffered from the traditional get to know your foibles that most married people deal with in the beginning. So he wasn’t the most organized person..... Had problems remembering simple requests, or following through with things. I just chalked it up at first to him living the bachelor life for so long.  There were ups and downs. Arguments, promises made, but in the end i would hold my tongue. The thing is my husband is the sweetest man around. He would do anything for me or anyone else for that matter. I would always feel like I was kicking a wounded puppy. He would be so apologetic, so devastated that he upset or disappointed me that I would end up feeling like the worst sort of person.  How can I question a husband who was a saint? Who loved me unconditionally. The guilt was so overwhelming. Just because my husband couldn’t make a decision, or finish anything he started, or remember things he had promised to do. He was incapable of managing the bills, or making decisions. Our talking about things that made him uncomfortable. Including our sex life didn’t make him a bad person. It must be me.  My expectations must be to high??? So it became my fault.  Which meant it was hard for me to be mad at him for long.

    My husband issues seemed to get worse as our lives became busier. He is an EXTREMELY intelligent man, but had worked at a lower paying job since he had gotten out of college. He didn’t seem to have any ambition to advance, and I felt that as long as he was happy and making decent money than who was I to push him. The only problem was he would complain constantly about the IDIOTS he worked for how he did this or he did that, but the problem is he didn’t want the responsibility. Again I just let him moan and complain.  I would try and encourage. Suggest he go back to school for a degree in education. He is a history nut, but he would always say it wasn’t for him.   It was a really confusing time for me.   I had been engaged in my early twenties to a very controlling man, and at first loved the idea that my husband let me take control of everything.  At times I would feel empowered, and then feel scared that I had no sounding board when making decision.  This went on for a few years, than we had our first child. Our lives became busy managing being new parents and navigating this stage of our life.  Our son brought so much joy to our lives, and for a while things were good. I took on the role of CEO of our family, Along with continuing to care for every aspect of our life, I took on the care of everything that involved our son. Don’t  get me wrong my husband was a 100% engaged father. Changed diapers, got up for feeding. Most of my friends were envious that I had such a great support system.  Again, I felt guilty that I would be thinking negatively of our life because I had to handle the day to day running of things. However, I was stressed to the gills working full time and managing our life and home.  I made the decision that since my husband was a wonderful father, that I decided to suck up my feelings and just manage our lives.  Again this worked for a while, until I got pregnant with twins. I don’t need to say our lives were turned upside down, and inside out. I had a two year old and a set of twins, worked full time and managed our lives. Insanity wasn’t the word for it. Unfortunately, two weeks after having my twins I suffered a major health complication and almost died.  I remember laying in my bed in the ICU unit thinking, how can I leave my children?  Who will take care of them?   thought that haunts me with guilt even 11 years later. My husband was naturally devastated and panicked with my illness. I just kept thinking I cannot die. I can’t leave them. I did recover, but I remember thinking the whole time that I had to get better, I had to get our lives back to normal because my husband couldn’t handle the stress. He was a mess. I understand almost losing your wife, and being left with 3 babies at 39 is horrifying. I don’t begrudge him his fears or feelings, but again I had to hold in my fears so he could function. I came home two weeks later and he wanted us to leave the whole mess behind us. It scared him to talk about it. Hello!! I was 31 years old and almost died. I think I was entitled to my tears, but again I pushed things away and got back to our crazy life.  We went on with this same pattern. I held my feelings in, or when I couldn’t anymore he’d make every promise in the book, only to revert back to his old ways within two weeks. There were times when I felt resentment that I was doing it all. I had full responsibility of the five of us . So to make an already longer story shorter we lived this complacent life for many years. It’s hard to realize how miserable you really are when you are crazy busy bringing up children, working, managing our lives.  Then four years ago my husband was laid off from the job he had been at for 22 years.  To say he was devastated was an understatement.   I had always been the main bread winner of the family, but with his salary we lived a very comfortable life.  He immediately went into a deep depression and I tried everything to help him through. I told him to take some time off to get his bearings before jumping back into the working world. & For a time he seemed to really enjoy being home and being basically a stay at home Dad.  I was ok with this because in my mind it was temporary.  All three of my children were in school and I figured he’d be bored out of his mind by the 3rd month, and start looking for something. I was very wrong. He decided he LOVED this new life.  No responsibility at all.  Again I tried to gently suggest he go back to school.  ;Have a do over. Reinvent himself. If anything he went deeper into depression.  He basically hid in the house.  We stopped having sex (not that we had it very often before), however now we weren’t having it because he couldn’t perform. After 6 months, I was starting feel the pressures of being the sole provider for our family. He had collected unemployment for a time after his severance ran out, but now I was the one solely paying for our life. The thought was frightening. Knowing I had sole responsibility for everything was staggering.  Again I didn’t want to push because I knew how devastated he was.  We spent that whole year tip toeing around the elephant in the room. He had no plans of looking for a job. He was hiding from his life inside of our chaotic life.   I finally told him after a year that he had to find something. That is was not healthy for him not to be engaged in life and I wanted him to find a job.  He made half assed attempts, and avoided talking about it.  Finally I was so sick and tired of him sitting at home that I signed him up to volunteer in the kids classrooms a couple days a week.  Low and behold it was like an epiphany to him.  He LOVED it. He loved working with the children and specifically gravitated to the special need children.  He spent that whole year  volunteering  almost every day and was loving life. In the mean time I was worrying daily about our dwindling savings, and having to manage paying for everything and taking care of our life.  At the same time my older son started exhibiting attention issues, and was diagnosed with ADD and NVLD.  After going through all the tests and meeting with teachers my husband confessed to me that he is the adult version of my son. HALLELUJAH!! I wanted to weep with happiness. Finally he was seeing what I had seen our whole marriage.  With my suggestion he went and was tested and it came back with severe ADD and social anxiety.  He decided to go on medicine and I saw more improvement in his emotional state than his attention issues. However, I felt some positive change was better than nothing.  I thought we were heading in the right direction. FINALLY.  He started seeing a therapist, and things were looking good, and then the rug was pulled out from under me.  He used his new diagnosis for ADD as a GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD. I’m sorry became his mantra. Sorry, it’s hard because of my ADD, sorry you know i have ADD.  So now I’m dealing with my son and my husband and two very rambunctious twins.  I wanted to run away screaming.  He decided the next school year that he would sub.  He did that consistently and was happier than I had ever seen him. He had the best of both worlds. He could work (bringing home peanuts) doing what he loved (which I will say he is FANTASTIC with the children), and be at home with our kids playing SUPER DAD. In the meantime I’m so stressed my body is starting to falter. My doctor tells me I have to reduce my stress or I’m  going to kill myself.  I explain to my husband how his actions are hurting me. That I’m managing our life alone, with no partner, no support and it’s killing me slowly. Again the I’m sorry, I’ll try harder and the endless promises were given. I tell him he needs to find a full time job, that our life was designed on two pays and even though I make decent money it’s not fair of him to let me shoulder everything. His solution was applying (when I say him applying really means, I drafted his resume, letter of intent ect) for a permanent position as a Paraprofessional in the Sped Dept. in our town. Such a noble job, but it only paid 1/3 of what he had been making. I told him I wanted to support him and I was thrilled he found this passion and was so good at his job, but if he was to take this job he needed to either find a part time job to back fill the kids extracurricular fees, or make the commitment to get his master in ED and I would support him during that time.  He worked the first year fulfilling neither of his promises.  I again laid myself bare and told him how his action hurt me and how desperate I was feeling. That he had to step up or I wanted him to leave. That his actions were making me hate him. That him watching me suffer day in and day out and not helping was destroying anything I felt for him. I don’t want to destroy my family, but am I supposed to live this way for rest of my life ? I am alone in this marriage. If you can even call it a marriage anymore. He cannot have sex with me. Every time he tries he loses his erection.  He tells me it’s him, but I have caught him in the past using porn (a few times) , but he admitted he can masturbate with no issue. The issue is with us.  He sees a therapist every other week, and there is never any growth from it. We went for a short time but it was more of a YOU NEED TO GET OVER YOUR ANGER, ACCEPT HIS ADD.  I had to be accountable but he didn’t because his brain works differently than mine.  Were now on year two of working at  with no second job, or applying for school.  I tasked him with being in charge of the kids homework   this year because I couldn’t do it anymore, plus he’s home with the kids after school. The kids grades have plummeted due to missing work, lost papers, uncheck assignments. I had to take that role back over.  I just don’t
    think I can do it anymore. I’m so damn tired, so damn lonely, and so damn defeated. Thanks for listening to my befuddled rant. I know I left out3/4 of all the issues that would make these rambling make more sense. I’m just so scared. I don’t know how to pull myself up anymore. My husband is not a bad man.  He is loving, and compassionate, but he’s just not capable of managing a grown up life and that’s so sad to me.
     

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  • Shut Down by: Beachlover68 11 years 6 months ago

    First, let me say, I am committed to my marriage and do not want to break up my family.  But ADD is making my life hell.  I have almost completely shut down towards my husband and just can't seem to help it.  He is trying and honestly has no idea how negatively his ADD affects me.  Or maybe he has head knowledge but it doesn't register enough for him to make any changes.  I know that my reactions to his ADD are just as bad as his inability to pay attention to me.  I am just at my wits end and so tired of being unhappy.  I have talked, cried, explained till I have nothing left.  He hears me in the moment, says I am the most important thing, wants our marriage to improve...blah, blah, blah...then goes right back to spending the majority of his time with his face buried in his laptop for hours at a time.  I am lucky that he is very capable of holding a job and owns his own business. He has always been a good provider and I have been able to stay at home since we had children.  But the economy has severely impacted our income and he is home more often than not now.  It is slowly driving me crazy!!!  Today, I did 5 loads of laundry, cleaned the kitchen, 2 bathrooms and swept and vacuumed the floors.  He sat on the couch playing on his laptop all day...as he does most days.  He says he is "working".  In reality, 80% of the time he is arguing with people on political blogs or posting stupid stuff on Facebook.  Did I mention I am going crazy?!!  I guess I am just venting.  I just have really hit my limit.  We have been to counseling in the past and it helped somewhat.  I no longer hold everything in and am more verbal about my needs, etc.  He is more willing to listen and talk things through.  There have just still been no significant changes... from either of os.  We are stuck in this crazt dysfunctional cycle.  I want off this train!

  • I am struggling in my marriage by: Ener 11 years 6 months ago

    Hi, I am wrecked, exhausted, overworked and beyond coping with organising my husband's life, picking up the unfinished pieces and dealing with debts, bills, children's needs and running my own business and the house. I think my husband may be ADHD.. just from reading about the symptoms and the effect on our marriage and my own life. I am a fixer, a strong and very capable organiser,.. so I've managed well to deal with 14 years with his maverick ways, multiple projects, debts, denials of consequences of actions, lack of coherent plans, unfinished business, disorganised paperwork/files etc. etc.. we are in marriage counselling at the moment.. I am saddened by the fact that I need to get away from my husband for my own wellbeing.. we have two wonderful kids that we both adore (13 and 10).. but I fear what will become of me if I stay. My husband says i will ruin his life, the children's lives if I leave. I don't think this.. but I am scared of the consequences on the children.. We have little money at the moment, largely due to his failed businesses and lack of work for almost 5 years (he is working at the moment). I felt a big obligation to fix him - I think I did try to 'save' him when we met but i was young and didn't realise he had such big problems.. I'd like some advice from women who have divorced men with ADHD... please. I am afraid of the mess just continuing after we separate: him falling apart, potentially creating even more problems for myself and maybe the children too.. i am the glue that has kept things going. I don't want to play his saviour, his therapist, his mother any more. I think life would be easier if I could see a way through this to keep my marriage together.. but at the moment I dread my future with him and think I can't go on. Please help.

  • Sweet Nothing by: lauren07 11 years 6 months ago

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