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  • Feeling despondent concerning communication patterns by: PoisonIvy 12 years 5 months ago

    Today, I took a calculated risk and told my husband that I felt the need to talk about a subject that is very painful for him, his failure to look for a job since he was fired three years ago.    He has said in the past that this topic always makes him feel inadequate and guilty and so on and so forth, and so I have grudgingly avoided talking about for several months.  But I was thinking today once again that it just isn't fair to take a major issue off the table because of one person's discomfort.  So, anyway, I talked, I didn't cry, I didn't yell, I just expressed my concern about the taboo nature of this topic and about how frustrating it was to me that whenever I talk about it, it always turns into a discussion of how inadequate and guilty my husband feels and how he feels as though i'm dumping on him and that really, I just want him to take responsibility and deal with his fears of looking for a job.

    I talked, husband listened, I felt a sense of relief, no resolution was reached but one didn't seem necessary.

    Later, I sent my husband an email thanking him for letting me talk without him responding in the usual way ("wife, this is making me feel really bad about myself").  Well, the email caused my husband to bring up how bad he feels about himself when I talk about this topic.

    I feel so sad.  I feel as though in my husband's world, it always has to be my fault.

     

     

  • Tired and Feeling Hopeless by: Beachlover68 12 years 5 months ago

     This is not what I signed up for when I married this man.  I do not know how we got to this place.  Our problems have increased gradually as our children (boys 11 and 15) have grown.  My husband is not only ADD but had a very dysfunctional home life as a child, especially with his mother.  I feel doomed.  He seems to not be able to separate his history from our home life.  I came from a very loving and supportive family.  Yet, we are repeating many of the patterns in his home.  I pay for his mother's sins every day of my life.  He pays little to no attention to me.  There is a double standard in what he expects from me and what I should be allowed to expect from him.  It should be good enough that he is passive, rarely has an opinion and lets me "do whatever I want".  While I appreciate that he does not put pressure on me like other husbands I know of, i.e...wanting a spotless house, expecting meals at a certain time, etc, etc...the passiveness makes me crazy sometimes.  I feel invisible most days.  Parenting our ADD 15 yr old is slowly destroying our marriage.  He thinks I'm neurotic and controlling (his mother was) b/c I worry about the normal things that most mothers worry about.  I never hear anything I do right, only advice on what I should do different.  I lecture too much.  I'm over protective, etc.  I think my husband basically raised himself from 14 on and had few, if any, boundaries to adhere to.  I was not raised this way.  The lack of support I feel is very painful.  If I try to address any of it with him, the defenses are up and it's turned right back around to me.  He is a master at that.  I'm tired of apologizing for how I feel, having needs, etc.  He takes everything as a personal attack on him.  It can never, ever be about me and the fact that I need to feel loved, protected, appreciated, etc.  I cannot remember the last time I really felt any of those things.  Our sex life is non-existent.  Another huge blow to my self-esteem.  He shows no interest.  None.  For the past few years he has had physical problems in that area but has shown no attempt to figure out the problem or talk to a doctor.  So, yet another thing I'm just supposed to deal with and accept.  How do you not take it personally?  I feel completely rejected.  He never tells me I'm beautiful or that he has any attraction to me.  Another area I guess I'm supposed to read his mind.  I have been in counseling for several years b/c of all of this.  He has gone several times.  It has helped at times.  But he doesn't go consistently enough for any it to take hold.  We are at a point now that we are both highly defensive.  We can't talk about anything out without getting into argument.  It is breaking my heart.  I am committed to this man, believe God put us together, but yet I am miserable.  I know he is miserable too.  We just keep hurting each other.  We aren't even speaking at the moment.   I am weary of it all and it breaks my heart for my children.  I did not grow up this way and never imagined this is how we would end up.

  • Hi Funnyfarm by: ADHDMomof2 12 years 5 months ago

    Hi Funnyfarm,

    Since we derailed the last forum topic, I thought I would copy your response here so I could respond in kind :).  I think it's great that you are making your son reorganize daily.  That has to be so much fun for you ;).  I'm honestly quite impressed, and can say while parents attend meetings, communicate concerns, and the like, IT IS SO RARE to hear of a parent who helps their child with the critical skill of organizing, and does it so consistently and diligently.  Daily.  Wow.  AND you are MAKING HIM DO IT, despite how he loves it so, which is equally important.  What great habits you are training him to have.  I tip my hat to you!!!

    Since you know what works for him, I would suggest a friendly e-mail to his son's teachers at the start of the school year.  You could just say  that although he has trouble being quiet during class, you and his former teachers have found this method to be the most effective way to stop his behavior in his tracks.  Maybe mention that you wanted to be proactive to save everyone some grief.  That will be appreciated and make it seem like helpful advice rather than a mandate.  Even if they do forget and try it their own way, they might remember if they are having trouble with him...

    You also solved the backpack issue in addition to the binder issue!  We could use more parents like you!  

    Question:  Does your son have an IEP or a 504 plan?

     

     

    Thank You for your comments, was a lot to take in.  Some of it did apply to my son's situation some did not, not a class at the end of the day and his meds tend to last until about 5pm, both his and her story about the incident were the same...to a point, my son actually knows to tell the truth after many times of not giving me the whole picture and getting in trouble for 'lying', she left out the part when she belittled him.  He was talking, she told him to stop, he continued and it escalated.  I understand how frustrating it is when you tell a child to stop doing some behavior and they don't, it drives me nuts too, and I do agree he probably should have been told to go out in the hall, or received detention if he continued to talk, the name calling/belittling however is unacceptable, i expect that behavior from a child not an adult. That was the part I had a problem with.  Some of his other teachers have told me they have a problem with him not being able to stop talking (he does have a hard time with putting the brakes on the mouth), but they have him step out in the hall they state their expectations and he stops, the act of being removed for 10 seconds works (works at home too), without having to yell at him or embarrass him.  Since that wasn't the first time she called him names before sending him out of the class he argued back with her, as he said to me 'I have rights too'. I should have discussed this with her after the first time instead of waiting for it to become a bigger issue.

    I did finally seem to figure out a way to help him with the organization/homework part. You were right the Binder WAS an issue, it seems so simple and it is what they are told to do but it doesn't work for him, as you said the amount of papers in each folder just got out of hand, to the point he couldn't close the binder. I gave my son a briefcase, put all his folders in it and he uses that instead of a binder and then having to put the binder in a back pack, some of his papers got lost in the backpack shoved at the bottom never to be seen again. Organizing papers weekly didn't work either, so I have him do that after he completes his homework every single day. He hates doing it, but it takes 10 seconds and he hasn't lost an assignment since. Hopefully now that we seem to have found something that works it wont be an issue next year.

    thanks for your comments.

     

  • How can you tell if someone with ADHD loves you? by: lily1 12 years 5 months ago

    If someone doesn't show interest in you, support or encourage you, listen to you, or do thoughtful things for you, how can you tell if they love you, or if they're just making do with you or using you? 

  • Is he doing things Purposely to piss me off ,,,or hurt me,,, or does he know he is? by: lovehurtsalotwi... 12 years 5 months ago

    example:#(1)

    A few weeks ago we went out to the casino where they serve free drinks and food while anyone gamble the slots machines or play poker...it had a very attractive girl working the night shift that night,he was starring down the little girl of whom could have been his sister(SHAME ON HIM)apparently he loves younger women and even his ex wife explained this to me in one of her emails to me...well...I kicked brass when we got home telling him that I know what he was doing and we had a fight over it...

    right..

    then we took a 10 days vacation and had the most wonderful time together,everything seemed bad with him just disappeared instantly right away during that time on our vacation and we really was almost back in love as if it was the first time we met..

    all fine and dandy..

    then we went back to the casino after the vacation and the same girl was on duty that night and she is a waitress.I thought? just thought? that since he knew how I felt and how he was caught that he would not ask her to serve him drinks(WRONG) she brought him a drink just as soon as I turn my back and went on the other side of the casino to play a slot machine.I told him:"wow!! babe you just love to hurt me,you take pleasure in hurting me and watching me suffer,but I would show you how strong I am and you can't bring me down".he told me:"no babe that's not true."

    example:#(2)

    After our vacation at the airport he bought some really nice treats to take back, one in particular I loved,well when we got home it had two of them,one we shared earlier on in the day and I was ready for the other one later down in the night,he said to me :"Oh no,,,,why do you want to eat it now,you moving like I am going to give it away or something"...that never even crossed my mind.in fact ,next day after he finished work and we got home by him..guess what,he gave it away and his explanation was"I had to babe,that was to bribe the girl in the parole department b/c I took all those days off and I want to get pay for it.

    what!!! excuse me!! if it is you have to get paid for your holidays then you would...you don't have to bribe a girl that pays you for it...she is also working for the same man he is working for.

    does he think that I am dumb,maybe...I am learning to trust but verify,one of Melissa's great advice...this is madness boy.

    I pray to god to help me remember to accept the things that I cannot change and change the things I can.In the lord above I pray and thank him for health and life the rest is history..

    lovehurts.

  • Nice one God, you really got me. by: Lostandtired 12 years 5 months ago

    So imagine God says to you...here's this man.  And he's wonderful, enthusiastic, bright, charming...he'll find new ways to make you laugh every day.  And no matter what life throws at you, no matter what you go through, you will love him more every day, and it will never stop.  And it isn't until after you say YES sign me up, and you fall too deeply in love to turn back that God says, "but wait, there's more."  For the rest of your life, you will live for this man.  All of your hopes and dreams, your goals and plans...all that now takes a backseat to just keeping him together.  It will never be about you, you will never be more important, and he will never be able to do for you what you do for him.  Yes, you will rejoice in his accomplishments and successes...after all, behind every good man is a better woman.  And without you carrying him, he never would have achieved these things.  But I hope that's enough for you, because you won't have the time or energy to spare to go out and get any of those successes for yourself.  

    He'll love you so much that he'll try.  There will be small gradual improvements, and for a long time the effort alone will be enough for you.  It will convince you that eventually he'll get it and learn what you need, or that he'll see how much you do for him, or how much you've given up for him.  You'll think he's ready to be the partner you've been longing for and that he can at least share some of the burden.  So together you'll sit and talk, and you'll discuss your goals and what needs to be done, and you'll take all that and load it into the back of a wagon.  And then you'll each strap yourself to that wagon and you'll pull together.  And at first the wagon moves forward so quickly that you believe your troubles are finally over, and your hard work was not in vain.  Then the wagon will slow down, and you'll wonder if you're running out of energy.  But when you turn to see how he's doing, not only has he stopped pulling...he's pulling in the opposite direction cause there was a shiny bike a few miles back.  This will happen over and over again, and your hopes never weaken.  After a while, you begin to wonder if you still do it cause there really is hope, or if you've just tricked yourself into believing there is because you can't stand the thought that you've sacrificed so much for a lost cause.

    You know it's not his fault.  He's trying.  He's doing the best he can.  He just doesn't know any better.  He tries to do nice things for you and to be the man you need, but you may as well expect a monkey to write poetry.  You feel so alone.  Not just in carrying the load of the responsibilities, but emotionally.  He doesn't know you.  He doesn't understand you.  You could write out an instruction manual on what you need, and he still wouldn't get it.  But you're so strong that you can live without it.  You can carry yourself.  You can find a way to make this work.  

    But should you have to?  Is that really what you want?  To MAKE it work?  There has to be something better out there.  Somewhere out there is someone who will give you back the person you gave up so long ago.  Someone who can be a REAL partner.  Someone who can carry you when YOU'RE weak.  But are you brave enough to go find them?  Or even harder...can you stand to look this man who you love so much in the eye and tell him that no matter how hard he's trying, you just don't want to wait anymore?  Aren't all relationships supposed to go through good times and bad?  Maybe these are just the bad times.  Maybe you're about to quit when the light is just around the next bend.  You've never been a quitter.  Are you really gonna start now?  After all, you love him.  And he'll fall apart without you.  All of your hard work getting him where he is will be undone if you leave.  He'll go back to the sad, helpless, lost person he was when you met.  Can you stand to destroy him just so you can go find what you need?  Cause seeing him fall will ruin you too.  So it's shut up and take it, and then only you suffer...or destroy him and both of you suffer.  And now you're trapped.  And you realize there's nothing you can do.

  • is it worth it? by: janet0039 12 years 5 months ago
    Ok so after 17 years....2 kids, abuse (drug, physicsl,emotional) nfidelity,2 mental breakdowns, a adhd son who is getting worse by the minute because of dads untreated adhd, childhood issues and dysfunctional family,,,,i have been asking myself lately.....is this worth it? I have been to hell and back on several occasions and i cant say for even a second any of it was worth it. For the exception of my kids nothing good has come out of this marriage...not one..why oh why did i do this? Why did i stay so long.? Why did i let things go so far....why did i expose my kids to this life? Its all my fault.....i thought i could fix it..i thought i could make it better....i made nothing better...i thought i was helping him ...but i just been his co dependant and he has taken my kindness for weakness and drained the life out of me,,,,im stuck in a marriage of no choice at this point, with a man who is a liability more than anything else.....cant count on him for anything, he is my 3rd kid and i hate him for it. He wants to change but he just doesnt know what to do,,,,,BULLSH*T.......adhd or not i feel everyonr can make s choice if they want better......im so bitter, resentful, hurt and just want to run and not look back.......i dont wish this on anyone......sorry for rambling but i really needed to vent...no one knows my true life i suffer in silence....
  • ADHDer's Concern for Non-ADHD? by: Haps 12 years 5 months ago

    Alrighty, gang...  Need a bit of help on this one. I'm not going to deny that I've been in my own little world with regards to my relationship with my dear ADHD partner. Things must be done my way. I've had a very clear "script" in my head on how things should go, etc. Not uncommon for us codependents, really. :) A lot of my troubles have been with things not getting done MY way, and I'd freak out when they weren't. (Just like it says in Melissa's book!) 

    Spent the day with my DP yesterday at the house, and had a very enjoyable time. Really reminiscent of why we got together in the first place. 

    I was surprised when it came up that part of his troubles with things as they were before was his paralyzing concern for me, what I want, and my situation. (Lots of personally stuff within a relatively short period occurred.)  He actually went MIA a number of times. 

    My natural tendency has been to call "BS" on it, chalk it up as an "ADHD excuse" and begin berating. That didn't happen. I actually believed what he was saying. That is odd for me in this situation.

    So, my question is this -- Can anyone here help me on this one? I REALLY want to be hopeful on this, but I'm nervous. How do ADHDers show concern? Has anyone else fled (literally - run away) when it gets really​ tough? What do you hope us non-ADHD folks knew about your actual desire to be connected and concerned? 

     

  • could a marriage last with ADHD,,,, and with a non_ADHD spouse. by: lovehurtsalotwi... 12 years 5 months ago

    We are two different people....he thinks soooo different from me...we may have the same excitement to go the same places,do the same things..go on romantic vacations....but can we last?am I wasting my time trying?should I continue this relationship with him?I don't know what to do?

    Everything seems wonderful at times and then at times it would change abrupt,the beautiful times we share has been the only thing that is keeping me from moving on without him..I love him!...I can't make any decisions as to what to do with him right now....it gets harder to make up my mind every time we have wonderful times, then it would get mixed up with the terrible times....this is very very confusing..

    We just came back from a wonderful 10 days vacation,,,, and boy Oh boy,it was the most romantic...wonderful time ever! we had sooo much fun....but I am thinking, that of course, it is an environmental factor,,,,and if that is the only time we could stay good for as long as the vacation last for,,,then we would always have to take vacations...does that makes sense? we have to be running from the land b/c he is only good next to the ocean.He would be the husband I would dream off only on vacations or at  sea...he has this weird reaction to the land where he would get frustrated fast and lose it.

    I am concern that things will only be good as long as we keep going on vacations,that is NOT how this should be....but hey...I am willing to do that for now...as long as it will keep hubby out of the ADHD mood....if only for a few days....

    Am I going to give up?? is this worth trying for?

    lovehurts...

  • Too much sex drive! No Sex... Trying to stay out of trouble. by: Pbartender 12 years 5 months ago

    Is there anything I can do about it, without getting myself in trouble?

    I suspect YYZ is in for another dose of deja vu.

    To keep it short...  I've always had a high sex drive, I'm a guy, I enjoy it, it was always one way I could should give my wife some focused attention and thereby demonstrate that I loved her, it made me feel wanted and loved in return, and in retrospect I'd also probably been using it to unknowingly self-medicate my ADHD before it was diagnosed.

    In our younger days, when we first met, my wife was something of a go getter as well.  With few responsibilities and just ourselves to worry about, everything was Jim-Dandy.

    Later, with two kids growing older, bills, jobs, odd work hours, so on and so forth, we had a lot less time for it.  Now, I really like all the extra romance that goes into gearing up for sex...  The teasing and the flirting and the cuddling and such.   But we didn't have much extra time for it.  We still had sex, but it was quick and dirty (no pun intended) and a lot more...  functional...  than before.  As one would expect, she became less interested, I became less satisfied, and it all became a lot less frequent.

    Now, after things have come to a head (again, no pun intended), we're living in separate bedrooms.  We haven't had sex in months.  But I'm no less interested or eager, and after all this time, it's just about got me crawling up the walls.

    I don't watch porn.  I've never cheated on my wife, never had an affair -- I've never even slept with another woman other than her.  Though, I've got admit, they're both terribly tempting, and I'm not certain what I'd do if a woman actually propositioned me...  I'm trying to avoid the that situation altogether.

    There's the obvious answer, but right now that's like snacking on stale popcorn, when what I really want is a big turkey dinner with all the trimmings, extra gravy on the mashed potatoes and a slice of pie for dessert.  To quote Green Day, "When masturbation's lost its fun, you're fucking lonely."

    What to do?

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