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  • where to begin? first time here by: thendorbegining 13 years 2 months ago

    it's been only a few weeks since my emotianal breakdown and in the midst of screaming "this is just not normal" at everyone around me, wondering the ever consuming "is it me? or is it everyone else" that I found my way to a doctor and counselor who ever so non-chalantly said adhd sounds like the demon your after. after  a bunch of tests it was confirmed.

    day one: denial-my life is over (if it ever began) is anything I thought real actually real or was it a lifetime of "filling in the blanks" with random stuff.

    day two: no end in sight-pushed my husband to get a divorce so he could live a normal life and began questioning if we even knew each other at all let alone like each other

    day three: teeter totter-all day marathon about whether or not the diagnosis of adhd is true/valid or if a large part of the world is just refusing to accept alternate thinking patterns

    day four: speed read-all day/night (on meds) marathon of researching behavioral patterns and happy endings online finding a unhappy balance of viewpoints leading to no firm conclusion

    day five: leap of faith#1-as the general rule from childhood goes "if everyone is against you....its not them...it's you" till now believing I was simply an exception to that general rule decided that I would make possibly my first firm decision...that it was me not everyone else.

    day 6: leap of faith#2-my whole life was not completely inaccurate due to filling in blanks...merely the viewpoint at which I experienced it.

    day seven: leap of faith#3-regardless of the grim outlook of a happily ever after with adhd/non I decided firmly I WOULD have mine.

    day eight: miracle#1-after only a short talk (realised this shorter thing works better) my husband decided firmly he wasnt just going to take a chance that we could repair or that once we figured this out we might like each other...he decided we WOULD like each other.

    day nine: tossed out conventional-decided based on unending information given in books and other outlets yet the few happy ending they produced combined with the length of recovery and varied results to try something that made sense to me (yes this was a risk considering the way my brain works :)

    day ten: reverted back to denial and had a horrible day

    day eleven: back on the teeter totter

    day twelve: getting seasick from the teeter totter

    day thirteen: decided there was no way I'd make if I tried to stay on that tetter totter and skipped back up to day nine

    day fourteen: sat down to study patterns and connections. although causing pain in the past I realised using my ability in a clearer mind with a destination might have an alternate ending

    day fifteen: asked my husband to participate in an extreemly frustrating day of questions to complete my puzzle

    day sixteen: math vrs language- found out there were numerous every day things that we said to each other that overlapped in one huge area causing enormous misscommunication/anger

    day seventeen-twenty one: compiling a list of my thoughts and ideas in an organised way and gave it to my husband to ask his opinion (no longer trust that I know everything and I'm a genius :)

    day twenty two: our first no arguement/frustrating day in almost 7 years.

    I am now on day 3 of this experiment and just ran out of time but will post the questions I had when I get back in a bit, if anyone would take the time good or bad to answer once I have them up by their view or whatever I wont take offense or anything just curious if I'm way off.

    thanks

  • Recently diagnosed with ADD, Marriage in turmoil by: BrianInCA 13 years 2 months ago

    I was diagnosed with AD(H)D back in April of this year(2011). Prior to this profound discovery, the communication with my newly married wife was starting to get worse and worse, some days we speak no more than "Hi, Hello, I love you (seems hollow), Goodbye, and so on. We had been seeing an MFT and myself with anxiety disorder that was masked with an undiagnosed ADHD. My wife bless her heart is a VERY intelligent woman BSN in Nursing, BA in Psychology. She had suggested I get tested for ADHD. I had agreed and the finding was yes in fact I do have ADHD. It shed light on the issues with the communication problems with my wife. At first it was like a feeling of "Oh My God" this explains everything. Seemed to be a great revelation to the issues at hand.

    After learning of this Psychiatric epiphany, I made the move to start learning as much as I can, purchasing books, including the one mentioned on this site. I learned an overload of information, suggested to my wife who had heard of ADHD but never had a strong intellectual basis of the disorder. She started reading the books and reading information on the internet regarding the non-adhd spouse and they're experiences. It seemed to just set off a ticking time bomb of emotions, anger, resentment, to name a few emotions.

    We have seem to hit a stumble with our own path to making the disorder coexist in a manageable way that is not destructive to our relationship. She has concerns that the steps that I have taken have not worked. Steps include; The meds (Adderal, Celexa), seeing a MFT, seeing a couples MFT who s has the most experience with ADHD in our area. I've been taking accountability for my issues and not blaming anyone for the ADHD & only accepting it and trying to make it work for us. The depression and my initial reactions of shock and awe have passed. As I said before, from what I understand I am doing everything I can possibly to control and dampen the effect on our relationship. The PsyD has told me many times this is going to take time to get the balance of medications working correctly to lessen the effects of the ADHD on myself and my marriage. I have some feelings, hurt, dismay, depressed feelings of responsibility to the issues that plague us. I am at the point with my MFT, the new couple MFT, we can't move any further until something happens with one of the number of things on our plate of issues.

    Here is where the underlying issue is, the resentment, anger, disappointment, frustration, and myriad of emotions on her side. I have a constant guilt about what I've done passively to the relationship, and it hurts. Knowing that I was the one who brought this into our relationship pains me more then I think I could ever tell my wife. The thought that I emotionally hurt her is a huge blow to my self esteem.

    This leads me to my questions given the limited background (I could on for days regarding this), where do I go from here? I feel I am on a waiting game with the PsyD with regard to Rx's, a waiting game with the MFT's to what is the next step. However the frustration, anger, resentment, etc, just keeps building it seems with no end in sight, my wife has started to see her own MFT to work on some of her own issues, but this is not even close to being at a point we can both agree progress is being made.  I want the resentment to go away, and I truly want her happy.  Moreover I want us happy. However it seems elusive. What else is there I can be doing, the responsibility that I have to correct this is very clear to me. Working past the initial shock and awe was hard, and I know there is a ton of things I need to work on but I can only do one thing at a time, otherwise I obviously 19 things get started and not finished.

  • On Guilt, Divorce, and Perceived Helplessness by: losingpatience 13 years 2 months ago

    Here's a brief rundown: My wife has ADD. She is forgetful to the extreme, always looking for keys, always late for things, defensive when given the slightest bit of criticism. Over the years, she has been asked to do the same things over and over again, and she seems to be unable to learn.

    In July of 2010, I sat her down and said, "We're in trouble." I listed all the ADD things that, at the time, I didn't know were ADD things. I thought she was just purposefully blowing me off and disregarding things, or I thought she was just stupid. In any event, my opinion of her really fell below the level it should be for a marriage. I want to love her. I don't want to bear a burden. And I felt I was bearing a big, heavy, forgetful, absentminded, unable-to-learn-anything burden.

    In September 2010, we started couples therapy. She was diagnosed ADD ("Seven out of ten on the severity scale" was that therapist's guess). The therapist recommended either medication or talk therapy. I said I'd be willing to support either or both. My wife chose neither. In fact, she chose to stop marriage counseling, too, because she was starting a new job, and didn't want to irritate her new employer with a slight change in her schedule. ("Slight" here is defined as, showing up an hour later than usual on Mondays and working an hour later--something that would have been acceptable.)

    So she does not treat her ADD. And five months later, her employer calls her into the office and says she's going to be fired if she doesn't shape up. She doesn't shape up. How can she? She has ADD. She can't remember small details, and the job was all about small details. She quits to avoid being fired.

    Five months of unemployment. No unemployment checks. Five months of her saying to me, "Why do YOU get to have a nice job and I don't?" Five months of me saying, "You need to apply to minimum wage jobs so that you have some income so that your savings don't run out." She does not apply to enough jobs, or the right job, and five months later, she's nearly broke. Emotionally I am drained.

    Now, she has a new job. And today, she overheard her employer say they were about to fire her and look for her replacement.

    I'm sick of this. I have read Melissa's book. I've read John Gottman's seven principles. I even read some other ADD book. We went to a second counselor while she was unemployed and she couldn't offer anything that we haven't tried. Nothing seems to work.

    And yet, I'm unable to steel myself long enough to say, it's over. She cries. She says she hates life and that she doesn't want to be on this earth anymore. And for all my dissatisfaction with the marriage, I can't seem to shake my sense of obligation to her. She "loves" me. She's just incapable of doing so much that I want from a spouse: noticing messes and necessary home improvements; shopping frugally; respecting my space; accepting, remembering, putting into practice the criticism I (now very gently) give her; etc, etc.

    It's like Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. Dr. Jeckyl loves me and wants to do everything possible to make me happy. Mr. Hyde wants none of that, ruins her best intentions. Do I divorce Mr. Hyde in spite of Dr. Jeckyl? Is anyone else going through this, too?

  • When he won't even admit that he has a disorder by: BarelyHere 13 years 2 months ago

    My partner is one of the poster child cases.  He has never been diagnosed, though, and doesn't believe in ADHD.

    When we were getting dressed yesterday, I had to tell him to put on a clean shirt.  We had the same conversation the previous morning, but on that day he had already put on the dirty shirt and was too overwhelmed by the concept of changing.  So yesterday I caught him in time and he finally abandoned the tee shirt he had been wearing for five days, including two of yardwork.  Next!

    Feeling good about how the tee shirt issue had been addressed, I asked him to pick up the pile of trash accumulating on the bathroom floor.  I had moved the trash can to the other end of the bathroom a few days ago and I told him a few times, but he just kept throwing his q-tips and tissues on the floor where the trash can had been for the first couple of months in our new house.  I couldn't bring myself to pick up the trash.  We've had numerous struggles with this issue in the past four years.  When I first moved in with him, he would leave any trash wherever he created it, even apple cores and orange peels, all over the house, including the bedroom, sometimes for days while I incredulously waited for him to deal with it.  So at least I somehow mostly re-trained him on that.  And yesterday I thought I would point out this new trash issue.  He resisted and yelled at me for insulting him.  I swear, I was so gentle, though. 

    But the previous night we had gone out and had to drive home on winding country homes after dark.  He drove.  And on this ride, I had to remind him to slow down no less than ten times as he repeatedly sped up to 45 mph while entering blind curves that have 25 mph signs posted.  So he woke up feeling some sense of wounded pride.

    In the four years we have been together, he has received two cell phones tickets, one hov violation, three speeding tickets, and a left turn on red ticket!  I have been in the car when he has been pulled over at least three other times without getting a ticket.  I know of about five other pull-overs that didn't result in tickets.  I have a hard time getting the keys away from him, though, and have some vision issues that keep me from driving comfortably at night myself.  He has taken some driving classes to keep his license before we got together.  The last time I was with him when he was pulled over, the officer let him go b/c one more ticket would lead to a suspended license.

    Since we've moved into our new house, he has not only forgotten how to out down the toilet seat, something his mother successfully reinforced when he was little, but he has also been forgetting to flush the toilet after he poos.  So his pride is also wounded over the fact that I have to remind him to go back and flush.  Honestly, I don't even bother if he just peed. 

    Following the weekend's yard work, I had to go through the yard with him to clean up, which I really didn't mind in theory, but he spent the whole time whining about how he would take care of picking up the yard waste on trash day and his tools later.  Mind that the yard project started with him running to the store for replacement tools for the one he destroyed by leaving them outside all summer.  But he didn't like having the neighbors hear me bossing him around.

    Mind that this is not a macho guy.  He was raised in a very progressive extended family by a single working mother who is a yoga teacher and organic chef.  His step dad came into the picture when my guy was 10.  The step dad is a musician and a teacher who wears a pony tail and identifies more as a wife!  My guy was raised among the gay community that ran the AIDS patient clinic in his home town.  He is usually better friends with women b/c he lacks the competitive edge so often present in male relationships.  He doesn't follow sports.  He's humiliated b/c he's a 30 year old person who still needs a mommy.

    Last night, the camel's back was broken at dinner.  I made his favorite lasagne.  He ate two servings and wanted a third.  Mind that these were huge servings and that he had already eaten more than a pound of cheese and meat and that he gets heartburn when he overeats and keeps me up all night weeping ang whining about his stomaheaches.  And although he keeps fit in general, when I make a meal with leftovers, he just can't stop eating.  So I have to make a fresh meal that is small enough for just the two of us to eat proper portions every single night.  This lasagne was the first in months because I had some beautiful basil and tomatoes that were just so perfect and because he keeps asking when we can have his favorite meal again.  I suppose this is more related to his addiction issues.  I said, "please don't have another.  Remember how we talked about your brain chemisty recently?  You aren't really still hungry, your brain just wants more stimulation of the pleasure center.  If you eat more, you are going to be sick."  And we fought some more about how mean I am.  But I swear I am not being mean!  He calls me mean in exactly the same way I used to call my mother mean b/c she made me go to bed or do my homework or eat my vegetables or wouldn't let me take a cab to nyc to hang out in greenwich village with some boy who was four years older than me when I was 14.

    Thing is, I have no where to go.  I've been unemployed since we've been together.  I have some health issues that keep me from working and I am not comfortable with public assistance programs.  My guy makes enough money to support us and we've been living under the assumption that we are in this relationship for life, although neither of us in interested in the government's or any religious organization's approval.  We don't have health insurance, though, and the government programs don't provide the proper care for my health issues.  My guy has been paying out of pocket for my health care for just the past month and I am hoping that I get well enough in the next year to go back to work, economy allowing.  And then maybe I can get enough money together for a deposit on my own apartment b/c I now realize that he is never going to get help and I can't be his mommy. But how the hell do I get through the upcoming months w/ some sanity and self-worth in tact?  If he would drop the pride and just get help and stop treating me like the mother to his adolescent tendencies, I would stay forever.  Whenever we aren't struggling over the adhd issues, he is the most affectionate, loving, loyal partner you can imagine.  We agree on virtually all politics and social issues and have very similar tastes in everything from food to movies.  We just enjoy each other's company and are happier spending time together than I ever even thought possible.  But I also still hope to have a baby and I obviously can't do that with him.  I can deal with a lifetime of unacknowledged birthdays and even uncertain finances, but I can't deal with the thought of leaving a child alone with this man or with the knowledge that I will be cast as the evil harpy mother. 

    Sorry for the vent.  I have no place else in the world to let it out.

  • Anger and communications by: oldwithadd 13 years 2 months ago

    This is about anger and communications.


    I am an ADDer married to a non.  Just read your book ADHD effect on Marriage.  Very good information from the ADHD side.  Most of the information my wife sends me is all about the ADHD person and very little about the non.  This was a great two sided discussion.


    I have two problems that need a response.  First is the idea that all her anger is about and directed to me and that she has no stake in the relationship.  I understand that my ADHD has affected her life in many ways, but she doesn’t think “I Get It” and understand the idea that I am the cause of many of the issues we have.  As I think I have been trying to work with my ADHD: medicine and therapy, she constantly tells me that I do not understand the issue.  So I ask her what actions or words she is expecting to hear or see to believe that I do a starting understanding of the effects?  In anger all she can say is that it is a feeling she will have when she believes “I Get It”.  In another sentence she says I will never get it.


    She is very good at telling me all the items I am doing wrong, or actions I have done in the past to cause the issues, but very limited in working together to set steps to help us move forward on working with my ADHD.  She mentions over and over that for many years she has been trying to get me to understand and has no more energy to do so and that it has taken too long for me to even start to understand the issues.


    I explain that I am working on my steps to help with my ADHD.  Every try I make I get shut down and nothing gets better.  How do I get her to understand that I am trying, but obviously incorrectly, so I try differently, still no success or even validation that I am making any progress?


    Second issue is that of communications.  I am told I do not interpret what she says correctly, and when I try to ask questions to understand what her intent was, I am told I should already know as we have been together for many years.  So I ask what I should do: act on my own interpretation of the conversation, or explain what I thought I heard and ask questions about it, which is also wrong, or just say nothing, which is also wrong?  I am at a loss of what to do?


    If the ADHD person won’t understand or interpret conversation properly, what do we do to help to correct that issue?  This seems to be a dammed if I do and dammed if I don’t scenario.


    There are many other issues, but these two will do in this conversation.


    Ideas or help?

  • new hope! by: ellamenno 13 years 2 months ago

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been away and wanted to post about my positive experience.

    I spent two weeks with my family at my father in law's house.  My husband and his siblings wanted to have a weekend celebration for their father, who turned 80.  My husband and I decided to make a vacation out of it and get there a couple weeks before the event so that the kids would have time with their grandfather.

    a bit of background:  My mother in law died in 1997, at the age of 48.  She had an aggressive cancer and it was only 8 months from diagnosis to death.  When she died, the two older boys were grown & out of the house, but the younger kids were 17 and 15.  The 15 year old (the only girl out of 4)  took over the role of her mom, cooking and cleaning for the whole family while also going to school, babysitting and doing a paper route.  When she went to college, her brother stayed behind, attending college sporadically, getting into all kinds of mischief, including, I believe, setting up a robbery of his own house.  (What kind of thief breaks into a house, leaving nothing disturbed but knows EXACTLY where to find the 2 most expensive pieces of heirloom jewelry?  And how did this thief know about a computer in the basement and why did he decide to open the computer and remove a particular chip instead of simply stealing the computer?)  For the next decade or so, he and my father-in-law lived like bachelors.  The house, as you can imagine fell to ruin, much of it, untouched since my mother in law's death.  Every time we visited for holidays etc. I would be desperate to clean, but would not even know where to start and everything I saw just lead to another thing that needed to be fixed...  on top of that, my little brother in law, in his 20s, was supposed to be helping around the house with cleaning and chores as part of 'rent' and anytime i attempted to do anything, by father in law would get angry at HIM because it was supposed to be his job to clean.  The kitchen would be waste high in garbage and recycling, but no one would tell me how to get into the garage (separate from the house, under a code) to take it out because it was my brother in law's job to take it out.  He, of course, was never home, and the chaos, garbage piled up.  I would get SO depressed there.  My husband didn't seem to notice or care and neither did the other men in the family. They sat in front of the TV watching various series on DVD. His sister would try to clean up, but she has a high stress/demanding job in another city and cannot be there for more than 2 days and (understandably) would rather spend time with her dad than clean a hopeless mess).  usually after 2 days, my soul would be crushed and I would give up too.

    The brother moved out a few years ago, but it was still difficult for me to clean up while there because i had an infant, then a toddler, then and infant AND a toddler.  I would manage to get the kitchen and the bathrooms clean, but couldn't do much else.  To top it off:  there is a cat.  My husband AND my daughter have severe cat allergy.  I have to dose my daughter with Benedryl, Zyrtec, Flovent (inhaler) AND Albuterol for wheezing.  The albuterol makes her hyper and angry and violent.  She punches and kicks and gets really angry and I can see in her eyes when she gets like that that she is even afraid of herself.  She has given me a fat lip and bloody nose while we've been there while on albuterol.  

    So this time I made a decision before we went there.  I was going to clean that house.  And... try to fix anything that I could fix.  I decided I could not put up with living in filth and I refuse to subject my children to it.  At first, my husband would take the girls somewhere with my father in law and I would make up some excuse to stay home so I could clean.  Anytime he saw me cleaning he would tell me to stop ("no! that is not necessary!  Sit down and have a drink!") and i would back off for a while.  But finally I thought, f*ck it.  I am cleaning this house and i refuse to stop.  It is work that HAS to be done and someone's got to do it and that someone is me.  before DH's siblings arrived I was cleaning out the bedrooms where they were going to sleep.  There was enough cat hair stuck to the drapes to make 3 large sweaters plus spider eggs, dust bunnies - ok dust rhinoceroses - and everything was covered in 2 cm of dust.  Oh yeah:  and clutter.  papers, books, change... wrappers, clothes... you name it.  All over the floor.  My father in law kept telling me to stop cleaning, that all they needed to do was put sheets on the beds.  well... all the bedding was covered in cat hair, there was ONE pillow (for a family of four) the rooms were filthy and one room had been a sewing room, so there were dozens of pins and needles on the floor and other sharp dangerous sewing materials within reach of the 2 year old & 10 month old that would be in there.  Over the next week I scrubbed the kitchen floor, I washed the living room drapes (who knew?  they are white!)  Scrubbed the food-splatter marks off the dining room wall.  cut dead branches off the plants.  DUSTED the plants.  washed all the couch cushion covers, vacuumed and dusted everywhere cleaned the laundry room in the basement because there was not one surface that was not filthy and I could not take our clothes out of the washer and put them into the dryer without touching something that would leave grime on myself or the clothes.  I scrubbed the rust and paint and grime off the sink down there til it shone like a silver Christmas ball.  Took the crumpled clothes and towels that had been on the floor YEARS and put them through the wash and folded them.  I vacuumed the steps to the basement that had been caked in cobwebs, cat litter, dust etc....  many other little projects...  Everyone was astounded.  Everyone was happy.  My brothers in law and my husband trimmed some trees in the yard and before they put the ladder away I went around the house with it and washed all the windows.  went inside and while my husband and sister in law prepared a huge birthday dinner I cleaned the INSIDE of the windows.  The result was amazing, and I opened ALL of the curtains and let the light in.  It is a totally different house now.  When I came inside from cleaning the windows, my father in law, who had previously been so upset/embarrassed about my cleaning frenzy stood up and said simply, "Thank you very much." and I almost cried.

    I didn't get everything done that I wanted to, but have a list for our next trip.  This time, I will insist that DH help!!!

    For me, this was a huge lesson in doing things a chunk at a time, something every day and also just learning to not let myself feel hopeless.  I have felt all year like my life was not in my own control and this showed me that I can really make a difference - not just for me - if I use my strength and make changes.

    Hyperfocus?  Maybe a little.  But I DID recognize the things I could manage and things that would just be ridiculous, and only took on the projects that I knew I could handle.  How many times in my life have i started something only to realize halfway through that i couldn't finish it because it was simply too much??

    Anyway - feeling happy and ready to take on my second year in this city.  Determined to be happy.  determined to stop feeling overwhelmed & worthless.

    Hope y'all are well!

    Ellamenno

  • Does this happen to you or am I just plain crazy?? by: Imthirdmom 13 years 2 months ago
    I found this site after asking my husband what he was reading on his phone, he wouldnt tell me so I looked myself, and found that he was reading an article from here about being married to someone with ADHD.. I was diagnosed with it when I was a child, but I also had a very hard home life with an alcoholic mother and acreditted alot of my childhood abnormalities to that. I made horrible grades in most subjects and then would have the highest grade in the class in others, my parents just thought I was lazy and only cares about what interested me. I have always had a very very hard time keeping up with things, always wanted to, would make attempts, even as a young child, to hyper organize myself and "start all over" with work folders, my locker, drawers, my room, I would organize it all to a T and tell myself I will do better this time, I also had many teachers intervien and do the same, within weeks or even days it would return to a chaotic mess, crumpled papers misplaced homework and books, dirty clothes everywhere, makeup in the underwear drawer and underwear, well became optional because most of the time I couldn't find it... As an adult, wife and mother of 3, a similar pattern has followed just on a much more domestic scale, laundry piles up, I will spend hours one day doing 7+ loads only to not put it all away and have to start all over because I don't know what's what, dishes pile up faster than I can clean them, I forget to eat, brush my teeth, take a shower or anything simi normal most days. I feel absolutely out of control, my attempts to try to gain it back are short lived and I end up feeling more defeated than before... My husband is at his whits end with me, he is very organized and likes things clean, he will ask me to do simple things and moat of the time I get so busy they slip my mind, the car is a mess, the house is presentable at first glance but everything except his designated areas, every drawer, every closet, everything is a disorganized mess, I want to just throw everything away except what we absolutely need to survive to make things easier but I know more will replace it and what little I would have would somehow find itself a mess as well. He gets upset with me because he doesn't understand how everything gets this way. I really don't have a logical explanation for him either, i just feel like it just the normal every day crazy that happens, and I was too exhausted at the end of the day to fix it. I can never find anything, I get so frustrated with myself, why is it so hard to just put things back in the same place every time???!!!! Seems easy enough, but the keys are in the laundry room, my bank card is Ina pocket somewhere my license... Um good question, I'm running out the door late as usual, get everyone in the car and head down the road to realize I don't have my phone or the diaper bag, at this point I want to cry, and do often.. I see other people and wonder why is everything so much easier for them, what am I doing wrong? What is wrong with me, why is every day life sooooo ridiculously hard?? I feel like a discombobulated mess all the time... I want to help my husband I want to do my job, when he mentions things to me I automatically try to do them right then and he says no, stop, you don't need to do that now, but why is it like this in the first place?? (trash piles in the car, old food in the babies carseat, no telling what's growing underneath the kids booster seats) things like this are, I won't say normal because I know it's not, I'll use a regular occurrence, and I hate it!! Please, anyone and everyone feel free to share, i just want to understand what's going on with me and why, in hopes that I can one day have a "normal" life..
  • Quote for the day... by: needsalifeline 13 years 2 months ago

    I found this quote today and thought I would share.  Everyone have a great day!!

    "You don't have to understand someone to love them, but you have to love someone to understand them"

  • Rather Be Lonely Without You by: gardener447 13 years 2 months ago

    Sorry, that's the title of a song I like.   But that's my question.  How do you deal with lonely?  We both work long hours but when are home, we aren't home together.  He'd rather send me an email from his computer (downstairs) to me at my computer (upstairs) than talk to me in person.  I suggest sharing a glass of wine and 15 minutes of conversation.  He says sure, and wanders away with his glass after 5 minutes.  I prepare dinner and he turns on the television while we're eating.  I suggest a project to work together on, and he agrees, disappearing to "get something" and never comes back.  "Oh, I saw this and realized it had to be done first."  When I point out these things, unfortunately he is still using the Three Stooges to explain them away.  He turned on the TV because I seemed like I "didn't want to talk".  He wandered away from the wine and a visit because I said something that reminded him of something he had to do.  He sends me an email rather than coming to find me because he didn't want to disturb me.  This particular Stooge is called deflect -- bing right back at you.  Whatever I did that you didn't like, you probably caused it.  He says I'm too needy because I'd like 30 minutes a day in his company.  BEING IN THE SAME BUILDING IS NOT BEING TOGETHER. 

    So.  Lonely.  Not lonely for the company of girlfriends, or family members.  Not because I'm bored spending time with myself.  Lonely for him.  I'm only able to convince him to do an activity we both enjoy about once a month.  The rest of the time he puts me off, he needs down time, he needs to work on a project (of which he has 147 underway at any moment).  I would like to ask ADDers... is there anything that makes you want to spend time with your partner?  Or does very little go a long way?  Is 5 minutes a day really enough?  I keep getting stuck on why does he stay when he wants/needs so little of me?  Why do I stay when I am so "not required"?  And why in God's name do I still want to spend time with him?

    I am struggling so hard this weekend.  LOL it's so much easier to accept this stuff when you're gone from home 12 hours at a stretch.

  • New to this Site, been looking for help in what I believe is a Husband with ADHD...Bad! by: martisas 13 years 2 months ago

    I have been married for a year, to a man I have been dating for about 7.5 years, and yes I did notice some things before we were marriage. But since the marriage they have become more noticeable. During our dating years, unless we went on vacation our visits were normally 1-3 times per week. We did not always stay over night or spend the full day, but their was always a question in my head... Why do you have to do that, and why now? I noticed how impulsive he was but when I questioned the why's he would always say, I just gotta do it now. Well, the other thing I noticed during those years was job changes, lost wallets (at least 10 times a week), directionally challenged (he came to my house for almost 2 years and still got lost), confusion, always thinking too hard, eating way too much (he even gets up in the middle of the night to eat) and if we are in a hotel, there is no sleeping in because he had to eat and I had to do it with him or he'd throw a flat-out two year old's tantrum. Things are different now...

    We lived together, and we are married. He leaves running water on and walks away from it until someone gets home, he stops in the middle of the street while driving if he gets confused about where we are going, even though he's been to the same place 100 times, he leaves towels on the stove while its lit; burning the towel and he will blame it on someone else in a minute, he has been asked for many years and I know this because his room-mate said, "will you please remember the recycle goes in the grey bin, not the rust colored bin... He always puts the garage in the green, the recycle in the garbage, and he just gets things mixed up no matter how many times he's shown the correct way to do it. He's dangerous and my 14 year old son even notices. I have talked to him about it and asked if he can try and get help and he says I don't know how. He didn't believe me when I said, "he has signs of adhd because it was for kids. His mom, and brother's have been laughing at him for years, just calling him stupid. When I told his mother she should have gotten him help long ago, I of course turned into the busy body who knows nothing, but she whispered and said, "is he still loosing his keys." He loosing his keys daily, and they are always in the same place. When he looks for them and I am not around he panic's, he never sleeps and collapse's when a week of this non-sleep goes by.

    I don't want to leave because I really love him, but I will tell you this whole job thing has turned into a crisis. I promise you all this, he has had 60-65 jobs in the past 6 years since 2005. He has had 80-85 jobs in his lifetime, he's 43. He's all that most women would want in a man, but he's got ADHD... What do I do when I feel like sometimes I am dealing with a child. He seems clumsey and confused all the time. I get so irritated when I have to tell him another time how to get to the mall which is less than 10 miles away. I'm even more upset, when I have to tell him where to pick up my son from school which is less than 3 miles away. I'm trying, but I am loosing my patience and I love him. What can we do?

    Marti

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