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  • Overhwhelmed and don't know how to cope by: kmcrenshaw 15 years 6 months ago

    I'm 46, and my boyfriend and I have been together for over six years. He is the most kind, good-hearted, intelligent man -- and he loves me so much, as I do him. We met when he remodeled my house and have been together ever since. As I got into the relationship, I found out that he was somewhat of a hoarder -- seriously, you couldn't walk in his house, it hadn't been cleaned in forever. I have since learned that he saves everything, doesn't pick up after himself and has an entire backyard full of dead cars, scraps of building materials -- you name it -- all stuff that he thinks he'll use one day. Despite the fact that he is a master carpenter, his beautiful 1920s bungalow is falling apart and has never been renovated. I also came to find out that he had never paid income taxes -- having started out in his teens working for cash in the construction trade, he could never get organized enough to pay taxes and once he hadn't paid for a few years, well, then the whole situation was completely overwhelming. He was constantly getting his electricity cut off or his phone cut off or having to drive back from an out of town job to pay his car insurance (he has no credit cards because he can't manage them and gets into debt).

    Of course, I didn't see the severity of the problem. I thought love conquers all. I have a well-paying, stable job, my own beautiful house. We bought a vintage travel trailer to renovate, Paul thought it would only take a couple of months. We bought some land together... with the idea that in our partnership I could purchase the property and he could fix it up. Eventually, we'd have some real estate to support us in our retirement years.

    He'd been in therapy for 10 years, but still was facing many of the same problems and obstacles. After a couple of years he was diagnosed with ADD. Of course, I'm a take action kind of person, whose work life depends on me being organized and able to approach things logically and step by step. I thought that if he gave me all his money, I could make sure all our bills got paid. We merged our phone accounts, and our auto insurance. I made all the payments on the properties. (He still had his house)

    Then, the nature of his job hit home. Construction is a stop, start business. You have a job, then you don't. It takes work to promote yourself and line up work so that you can have a new job when an old one ends. Needless to say, Paul didn't have the skills necessary to maintain steady work.

    I won't go into all the details, but we've ended up in a bad place. And I am as culpable as he. Year after year, I've ended up paying his property taxes ($7000/year), back mortgage payments ($2,000/month), etc. -- talk about co-dependent. I'm overfunctioning to his underfunctioning. While still being responsible for my house, and our other properties. Yet none of our long-term projects and dreams have come to fruition. He can't seem to get it together to make progress on any of them. Meanwhile, our vacation home (more of a shack really, we bought a serious fixer-upper) has become a junkyard -- filled with dirty laundry, trash, filthy, and the beautiful view of the high desert is obstructed by piles of odds and ends of building materials. We bought it with the idea that we'd rent it. But after 4 years, the roof still hasn't been replaced (even though it needs to be quite desperately), no renovations have been done. And he still hasn't paid any income taxes. He has no health insurance (but smokes two packs of cigarettes a day). It is as though he lives in an alternative universe where no normal rules apply. And he simply doesn't seem to understand that he can't actually afford his house. I even paid for his therapy with an ADD specialist -- until I couldn't afford it anymore.

    He's at a tough point in his life. His building job ended in the middle because the client ran out of money (the bad economy). Then a friend backed out of renting his house after he spent two months working 12/day trying to get it ready for her. Then the new job he had lined up fell through because the woman was worried about the economy. I want to be supportive, but don't know how to do it. I know he feels so much shame that he is in this position. I told him a couple of months ago that I would give him the proceeds of a couple of old cars that we had to sell and then he was on his own with his house. He understood, but I know that he's feeling abandoned a bit.

    I'm at the peak of my career, yet broke. I can't afford to travel, I can't even enjoy the beautiful property we bought. My dream of what our life together would be like, a partnership where we each contributed equally in our own way, is dying. I think I am going to have to sell two of our properties.

    How do I "re-separate" our finances? How do I say 'Honey, I know that you have no work, but I'm not going to pay for your phone, car insurance"? How do I let him know that he can't ignore the tax situation forever?

    How do I get him to remove his stuff from our vacation house, so that I can enjoy it. The reason the place in the desert is so energizing and peaceful for me is that it is a big, empty chaos-free place -- yet now, it's so full of stuff and trash that I break down and sob every time I go there. And how do I negotiate with him to ensure that there aren't constant broken promises (good intentions, the road to hell ...)?

    How can I be loving and have boundaries? I want him to look for ways to mitigate the effects of the ADD on both himself and on me (organizing strategies, tools, whatever works). But it doesn't seem like he ever gets there. Just the same behavior, resulting in the same results. And he works so hard, so long, and it seems like he never makes any progress. I know he's exhausted and frustrated too. And, I know that he hates being dependent on me -- and I am pretty sure that I've come to be a crutch.

    He's caring, kind, loving, and devoted. I want us to grow old together. I have great compassion for him, but I need help. We have to find a better way to live.

     

  • Hanging by a thread by: jgsmom 15 years 6 months ago

      I feel so alone, misunderstood, crazy, exhausted. My husband has ADD, he is on Vyvanse, we are on our third counselor in 4 years, we have been married 5 years.

      He lies to avoid taking responsibility for his actions/inactions, he lies to try and support his argument in a fight even when it doesn't make sense, he is verbally abusive, extremely disrespectful in his choice of words/tone and either not reading my social cues of offense or overreading/exaggerating the social cues, he continues with his verbal assault adding insult to injury and now he is projecting my issues of mistrust with him onto me, even while admitting that I have never lied to him and not being able to give me a reason why he feels he cannot trust me. I do not know how much more I can take of this.

      In the last three years I have had three anxiety attacks. I never had these problems before I was married. So now my doctor has me on Zoloft and Xanax, which I have been on now for almost two weeks and I do not feel any better. I HATE that I have to take these drugs so that I can deal with all of this, and worse yet is that instead of my husband realizing that he has contributed greatly to this, he views it as support for his argument that the problem lies with me.

      My husband seems to have no empathy, but has great sympathy for himself. He is extremely judgemental. he has unpredictable anger outbursts over things that you wouldn't think would warrant such an extreme response, ex. like crumbs left on the countertop. How could I possibly predict something like that would make him so angry? Of course I realize, and so does he, that he is angry about something else and the crumbs just set him off, but it doesn't stop his berating and critisism.

      When I think about our courtship, fraud is the word that comes to mind. I know now that he was hyperfocusing, but how could he be so different? Like a completely different person? I was 30 years old and I had been in enough relationships to know what I wanted in a husband, kind, loving, supportive, someone who understood me and appreciated me, someone who found happiness in taking care of me and in seeing me happy. A partner in creating a life of mutual respect and real love for one another. I really thought I had found all of this in Rick, I am still mourning the loss of the husband I really believed I married...

      So when I try to tell Rick how hopeless and alone I feel, that I need him to be the man I married, that I am desprate, he tells me it is my fault because I am closed off and cold to him, that I wont let him.... Again, it is my fault.... I have had to detach from him for my emotional well being but I would happily welcome some real efforts from him. He says he is doing everything he can, but I do not see it, I do not feel it and believe me, I am searching for it.

      I am trying to be hopeful that this new counselor will be able to help us, but I feel like she is minimizing our issues into "normal marriage problems" which contributes to me still feeling misunderstood and completely alone. I wonder, if I had physical evidence of his verbal abuse, like a black eye or a bruise, would she still minimize our problems to "normal?"

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • Suggestions to stopping a tirade? by: Amgock 15 years 6 months ago

    My husband (Add) and I (non-add) had a 2 day 'fight' recently where he would not stop arguing/ yelling (including following me around the house and outside) until I admitted that everything that was wrong in our marriage was my fault. My low self-esteem, my parents alcoholism, my affair etc. everything. All were my fault. Yes, the affair was my fault, but that's a different forum all on it's own.  I would say "yes, it's all my fault." but he never believed me because he could read my body language. it wasn't until i was so broken down sobbing on the floor that I did finally begin to believe that everything was my fault.

    Then the next day, we awakes as if everything is fine and asks why i'm so upset. I say "everything is My fault" (Still truly believing it) and he said "Oh no honey, it's our fault. Both of us has made mistakes". ROAR!!!!

    But now, two days later, i know it was just him having a fit, not everything is my fault. We are in this marraige together, we both screw up, everything is both our fualts. In the heat of his tirade, is there anything i can do to stop it. Knowing it's just an ADD fit. I've heard of using key words etc, b/c god knows if i mention add while he's upset like this our argument goes nuclear.

    Any suggestions are welcome! HELP!

  • Ok lots here for woman with partners and ADD, some on wives, I'm at my wits end yet again with wife and ADD apparantly!! by: Trueblue 15 years 6 months ago

    Hi,

    New here but have been reading lots over a period of time, and elsewhere as well. Seems a lot of good info here so lets see what I get.

    I'm not sure how to go about this in a short post, so bear with me and i will do the best I can.

    The history - I met my wife at 16 we were great friends (down here we often say mates, not just for men friends :-)) I'm an Aussie by the way) anyway, we ended up together and married at 30. Long time I know but she did some strange stuff back then bounced all over the place, got married to a man she didn't want to in the end, wanted to leave the wedding on the day and not do it, but did!!?? Anyway, we ended up got together intimately (had not ever been intimate as friends - well no more than a bit of Kiss and cuddle) at about 28 married her at 30. All was well for a while till she decided her family (read dad) needed saving again, as he does often. He is not very successful, still around at 74 trying to make it has development properties and such but in a huge financial situation (what's new story of his life) this has created a lot of friction between us over the years as everything gets dropped by her to get in and help in someway. he is emotionally manipulating and blackmails often, well with his family only, certainly not with me as I saw right through that within about 6 months of being married, we have never truely got on, I beared him as my wifes father that was about it anyway to cut long story short - we had a son in 1997 and in less than a year she left me (with her families help I will add) no real contact for 9 years till 2007, my son then 9.5yrs was wanting to see me (had not seen him since he was 1yr old, that is  story of it's own and was also some of my doing) anyway from there we saw each other several times and one day I was asked if I would give her a second shot as she messed it up. Cut this short too - I said I would but with conditions as it was obvious way back then that there was some thinking issues ( we called it twisted thinking - we as in my friends, family etc) Turns out after she left me I figured there was perhaps a Bipolar issue, turns out this was the case mildly but since then she has also been officially diagnosed with ADD (my son also to some extent) so anyway, we are together again ( am I nuts well that is a good question isn't it?? She says she is the luckiest woman in the world that I have let her back in - I never divorced her, just property settlements and the like, couldn't be bothered spending more money to divorce unless I was ever going to marry again) she has moved in with me since March 2008 and my nightmare started. So I guess technically you could say we are 18 years married, 19 this October.

    She has so much material stuff!! The issue I'm having is she will not sort through it and decide what to keep what not, most of it is really not worth keeping but all I keep getting is I need it for my creativity blah, blah, blah and I need this to be done and that to be done and more storage, more shelving and the list goes on. I get you don't do enough for me to sort it out, you don't want to help (which is true to an extent, helped her clean up her life twice so far, not doing it a 3th to get kicked for it) Anyway, will try cut this short too, she has enough for 3 full families in my opinion and the bottomline is I am so tired, wornout and so forth, just like many others I have read about here of non-ADD spouses, partners etc. I'm at my wits end. This timke she needs to actually do it for herself or she will never learn in my opinion.

    As to getting on with my own life I can do that to an extent but my home looks like a rubbish tip. So other than tossing her out I'm not sure how to go about it yet, By the way it is what we call a highset home (like a 2 story but no internal stairs) with 5 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms etc, etc so it is not exactly tiny, not huge either but more that enough for 2 adult, 1 child. Mind you she has taken one bedroom alone and filled it with clothes, shoes and so forth. The latest scheme from her is I rent this one out and we go rent somewhere else with an option to buy and the reason is this house just does not work for her.

    Now you perhaps need to understand that I am very emotionally strong, grounded, get things done man. I have often been referred to by friends and partners including my wife as 'The Rock' as I'm always there and don't move because of my grounding (their words,not mine)

    Anyway, there are a number of issues surfacing and the main one for me is I can not live in a dump, I'm not a clean freak, don't mind a house that looks lived in but this is way past that. I have room downstairs that was my games room etc, with a pool table, darts, bar and so forth for entertaining. I have not had any socialising at my home since New Years Eve 2007/08 because it is all too hard and to be honest I find it embarrasing to have my friends come into this, they sort of know about it and are supportive, I go to others for get togethers at times, not as much as I would like, but I can live with it for now.

    I have just seen my pool table and bar for the first time in over 6 months. Now I have said seen it, not played on it or mixed a drink at my bar, that is way too hard.  Now before you think well she is doing something about it, let me say she just moves it around and does not actually get rid of it. I have asked do you have stuff you do not need and do not want - answer is yes, I say so why is it still here and not with a charity as you want or to the rubbish if not. Answer I have to unpack it all first to find it and I can not do that here as I don't have the space!! Let me also add here she has 2 storage units near by big enough to store a vehicle in, about the size of a small garage each, she has stuff at her fathers place over the otherside of town, and some more stuff stored at another of his properties. Hope you are getting the picture here? No I did not know about all this prior to getting back together or her moving in, it may have very well been different if I did know, thought she would be over the hording/mess stuff by now, been there done that before with her. I have done heaps on promises and it has cost me a packet to go with it. I have always been reasonably finacially secure since a late teenager and since she left me I have just moved on and up in life and my position has usually improved with each career change etc. Lucky perhaps but I like to think more good management and life education. So to move on. She has never been good with money and had none when she moved in, I financed everything. I really thought after a decade away she may have actually learned some of lifes bigger lessons - O did I mention she ended up living with her parents with my son - she is 47 to by the way we are 2 weeks apart same age.

     

    Hmmm looking at this it will not be short so I will go with this. She is on Meds has a therapist who i have been to, but she does not even do what is suggested there to do. It has escalated in the home to the point that I have no fuse left, my patiance is at an end and I am known to have the patiance of JOB as they say. I'll also add here she has 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 mini horses, 2 goats, now they are not all at the home, but the 2 dogs and cats are, She spends very little time with them as too much other stuff to do, I don't feel it's fair on the animals, but she insists it is for our son. Took me a while to figure it is not about our son or the animals, it is about her. My sons spends next to no time with them. So you can probably guess my thoughts on this part, once again you have to be kidding give them away - not a chance. I have bent almost to breaking point, the resentment and disrespect is creeping in as I don't believe she has respect for our marriage. I'm so over hearing it's ADD and I don't believe in it and so forth and such as, I am aware she has but as far as I am concerned it is a reason, NOT an excuse and her behaviour and the like is still held accountable. Her other traits well there ios a few there like no time management, no organisational skills, no money skills and the like, I can live with most as they can be managed with my help, but the mess, well what do I do!! I'll just add here, the last time I moved on with life hoping she would take the hint, I was being told I did not care or love her blah, blah, blah and does this situation sound like someone who didn't love her, I have loved her since the day we first met and that has never changed. I have told her though that LOVE is just not enough these days, it is not a fairy tale and there needs to be more than just love in a marriage, that in my view is what partners are about, they help each other in life but my emotional bank is empty, in fact I would say over drawn, I have no more to give and nothing really coming back and I'm not interested in enabling, I know and understand this situation and not just with ADD.

    I have spent lots of time in my life teaching and empowering people, I have many that I have helped, I have no qualifications other than the University of Life, but my wife - well that is whole different ball game! She has books and info coming out of her ears about coping, ADD, getting organised and so forth, all the knowledge in the world is usless without action and she is also very inteligent with a good IQ but EQ is a different story, it's like in many way she has not grown up.

    I have even threatened to get a rubbish skip out the front and start tossing, this enviroment is not healthy for me or my son and she keeps agreeing with me, but nothing happens. How do I teach a 12 yr old that he needs to pick up after himself, he needs to understand time management and time frames when his mother who he has been with does not do it - monkey see, monkey do and he is pretty soft for a 12 yr old boy so his mothers influence is stronger at the moment than mine, it is all hard work with 2 of them as he is also very stubborn, hard headed, argumentative etc, etc, the usual ODD traits added to his ADD and yes he is on Meds we are still experimenting with them to get the balance.

    Oops like I said long post, and believe me I could make it longer but that will do for now, sure I have probably left something important out ;-o) Thanks for listening as they say, but I have found it really hard to get good information downunder in OZ, it seems really hard to find good info or good help especially for partners of ADD - ODD people or if available costs the earth for good help and that is a bit hard at the moment till I re-group financially which I will, so no issue there for Me.

    Thanks for letting me unload a bit :-o))

  • Social Situations and ADD Husband by: plantlover 15 years 6 months ago

    After reading several posts last night, it occurred to me that I need to plan strategies to help myself deal in a positive and healthy way with some of my husband's ADD behaviors.  He's not going to change, so I have to figure out how to behave in certain situations instead of getting plugged in and being angry or playing his mother.

    Yesterday, I went into his business to do some paperwork.  One of his accounts, who is also a good friend, showed up to consult on some work.  My husband was in a rebellious, mouthy, but playful mood.  He made several pretty blunt comments about this man, but when I called him on it, he said he was "just being a guy."  (I hear this excuse a lot.)  He continued making comments, and I got in his face and did the "Mom's telling you to stop now" routine, which didn't work. He was getting a lot of attention from everyone in the room, and he feeds on that energy.   I realize now that I probably should have just ignored the conversation and gone on with my work.  If anyone sees another way for me to deal with this issue, I'd appreciate comments.

    Another social issue is when we're with friends.  He doesn't pay attention to social cues, loves to monologue, and will do the majority of talking in any group.  I find it embarrassing that he's so unaware of other people, doesn't seem to care what's going on in their lives, and doesn't hear himself interrupting people over and over.  I've tried waiting for a brief lapse in his talking to ask one of our friends a question about their lives, kids, or jobs, but my husband will cut in and continue to dominate the conversation.  And when I try to talk, I am always cut off very quickly.  He won't let me say much of anything.  It's to a point where I don't want to make plans with our friends, because I don't have a good time listening to him talk all night long. 

    I've tried asking him before the event to be aware of other people and how much he talks, and he promises to do so, but it never holds.  I've tried nudging him under the table, but it doesn't slow him down for long.  I've tried walking away to use the restroom, to give myself a break, but he goes on.  I often end up getting angry and frustrated and then saying something mean about him, which I later regret.  If anyone has come up with a way of dealing with this behavior, I'd appreciate hearing about it. 

  • So what are we doing this weekend? by: needhelp 15 years 6 months ago

    I'm just curious. Haven't read much about this topic yet and there is no board about "planning".

    What happens when you (non-ADD spouse) inquires about what's going to happen the next few days?

    In my situation, my ADD spouse will simply be very annoyed with the question. How can he know what he will do this weekend? How does he know how he's going to feel this weekend? How do I dare ask him the question? Wait a minute, I must have a secret plan for asking the question... 

    If at any time at all we decide to do something, 99% of the time, it will not happen. 

    So, whenever we are asked somewhere, I learnt to say: "you need to ask him because I can't commit for him". or "we don't make plans in our family". We'll see when the time comes. 

    How I learnt to cope (10 years of marriage):

    1. I have no expectations at all

    2. I never count on him for anything. 

    Does any of you have similar experiences? How do you deal with it?

     

     

     

     

  • The SPECT Scan - anyone one do this/have a loved one that has??? by: Lulu 15 years 7 months ago

    I'm really curious about the scan.  It seems to be a good tool in diagnosing ADD, etc. and very helpful in determing which meds to use.  Has anyone gone to an Amen clinic or the clinid in Denver??   Please post your thoughts on this.  The prices are outrageous but would be worth it if years are saved from trying a multitude of drugs that don't work.

    Thanks!

    Lulu

  • Can't take it anymore. Need words of encouragement. by: Ki 15 years 7 months ago

    I'm not going to write a book but lets say my life has steadily becoming a living hell with my ADD spouse. Unfortunately it took five years of jumping up and down, yelling, and begging  to get him and his parents on board with that fact I thought something was "wrong" with him. He is on medication now and seeing a coach but I have not one ounce of patience, energy, or sympathy to suffer through him while he is going through treatment. I'm a Christian who believes marriage is a permanent union and take my vow of for better or for worse seriously but its like I'm dying from all the pain, hurt, confusion, chaos. I worked hard, do all the rights things, pick up all the peices, and its all I do. He was gone for 3 months for work(and then got fired) and it was pure bliss. We're on the road to complete utter financial ruin, every time I manage to get us(Of course I have to do it) on track he sabatoges it. The rest of the family looks at us with pity, no one respects us because we can't "get it together" . We are the children always begging for money or having to have people pay our way or can't go to anything. We are the ones always trying to explain why he is out of work once again. I'm the one embarassed when he blurts out something inappropriate or acts out in front of people. I'm the one everyone looks at when he start saying something crazy or butts in on a conversation and take sit over being rude. I can't even have a normal conversation with this person without it becoming a totally exhaustive venture. I am mortified when I hear that they can't stand him, or we're not invited somewhere because no one wants him there because he is obnoxious and weird. And its worse when I get those looks of pity like people feel sorry for me or are looking at me like they are glad they are not me.  I get the comments (you had a kid with him?)  I can't stand this!! Please give me encouragement. He has sucked every bit of happiness from me and I"m turning into this horrible angry bitter person. Sometimes either telling him just tget the hell away from me and get out of my life, or just packing up my daughter and driving far far far away from him. I'm ready to give up on trying.

    He is not a bad person but at this point I don't give a rip if he has a disorder or not, I just can't take it anymore.

     

    All I see here is how how the non ADD spouse has to do all the work, make all the hard decisions and adjustments. There doesn't seem to be any sympathy for the total financial, social, and emotional nightmare this can become for the non-add spouse. We're tired, we've done all we can, we've read the books, went to our own shrinks, tried to forgive and forget, tried to beg and please, tried to suffer in silence.

     

    -Broken and Sad

  • Been ignored for one week while he is in manic state working by: Lulu 15 years 7 months ago

    My boyfriend of six months is a professional musician.  He has moved beyond the hyperfocus stage, has started detaching and now has gone a solid week without seeing me.  He's called every few days - sometimes after staying awake for two solid days working on a music with an imaginary deadline.  He has new software that he's learned in record time.  I've seen this mania before and it is alarming but this is the first time I've been completely cut off.  His messages keep telling me what an understanding girlfriend I am and that he misses me but he's soooo busy.  

    I haven't called but finally, after some mania of my own, I researched ADD and came to the conclusion that this is what I'm dealing with.  After I read over and over every symptom pertaining to him (and it's severe), the anger subsided.  I don't think he can help it so I can't get mad.  I am starting to detach myself though.  My question - is he pulling my leg that he still considers me his girlfriend after no communication, no being there, no interest in my life whatsoever for a week or in his ADD cloud does he believe this is normal - that a relationship can go days with no nuturing or bonding?   

    I realize that I should be asking him this and I will when he comes down from the high and actually requests seeing me.  I just wanted to get some feedback from anyone out there.  ADD'ers - is cutting someone off part of this disease or am I being duped?

  • How do I help my in-laws understand my husbands ADD? by: Amgock 15 years 7 months ago

    HI Everyone. This site has been a marraige saver for my husband and I. We been together 12 years, married almost 7. Last month we seperated for 2 weeks, niether of us could deal with the other any longer. A bit of hitstory... After years of not feeling loved etc (typical non-add spouse feelings) I had an affair. I deeply regret it, especially once my husband was diagnoaed with ADD. To find out he really wasn't the jerk I thought I had married and that i had done that to him...the guilt is amazing.  Anyway, during our two week seperation he went to his parents for support. They know about the affair, but refuse to believe that ADD is a real thing. While a contributing factor in my affair, it was not the cause, I know that I was. He wants them to understand what has been occuring in our marrige, perhaps to shed light on my reasons for stepping out. They just wont hear him. His father (who has to also be ADD) says it's just the doctor wanting him to come back every week to get paid etc. Very old school mental health thinking, it's all a crock. But it's ruining my husbands relationship with them. And they dont see this. He's sent them this website to read through, and says do not contact me until you've read this and done some reasearch on add. They refuse. They say I"m so controlling (his words while we were seperated when he hated me, he understands that his feeling that I'm controllling is part of his add) that I've brainwashed him into staying with me. He's caving, and making a terrible mistake they say. But they forget, that they would have lost their son 12 years ago if not for me. Not only is he their only ADD kid, but he's also the middle child, so he always felt and feels as if he's tossed aside for the older golden boy and younger baby sister. His father even agreed with this once that he was. My husband has had it with the additudes, not only towards him, but towards his add. He's not going to communicate with them until they research, but he knows that they wont, they're too proud. He's said we have to move on with our life without them, he loves me and our little family (2 dogs that are our kids) and that's all he needs, b/c that is all he's ever really felt that he's had.

     Should I try to get involved? It breaks my heart that in his hour of need they do this to him. He went to them for support and all their doing is yelling at him. Shouldn't it matter to them what he wants? Shouldn't it matter to them that they loved me like a daughter and on numourous occasions thanked me for bringing their son back to them? Yes I made a terrible mistake, if my husband can forgive me why can't they? especially knowing if they don't they'll loose there son. Which is his decision, not mine. Why do they refuse his add?

     

    Thank you ! Jess

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