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  • Panic attacks by: adhdchicky 15 years 9 months ago

    I am 36 years old with ADHD and engaged to a wonderful man. When life (Especially work) gets overwhelming,  I get this overwhelming feeling that "it will never end," and I literally feel like I am going lost control of everything. My fiance has been wonderful, doing his best trying to calm me down, to see things aren't as bad as they are, and telling me it's ok. I know it's ok, but my brain is still in panic mode and I have a hard time getting out of it. I get insomnia as a result and that makes more anxiety for me.

     

    I have tried meditation, yoga and excercise and it helped WHEN I AM INTERESTED, but it usually goes back to me smoking cigarettes, thinking bad thoughts and driving my beloved up a tree.

     

    I love what someone said about ADHD-ers percieving the world as "flat" and that every little thing that happens is as important as top priority in a non ADHD-er. How do I make that stop? I am medicated, (ritalin SR) and that helps greatly. Somedays I feel like I can not handle it all.. :(

  • ADHD, Separation how to stop from divorce? by: devbalt 15 years 9 months ago

    This is my first post.  I read through so many others, and it is nice to find a place where I may learn from so many other's experiences.

    I have been married now for 15 months.  I have a severe form of ADHD and depression.  I was diagnosed almost 8 years ago and am 32 years old.  My wife and I met and experienced a whirlwhind romance.  Even though I was in an up and down relationship for 3 years prior, and had no intention of settling into another one, along came the love of my life.  She is incredibly intelligent, very successful, driven to the point of obssessiveness.  I do not want to psychoanalyze b/c that would be unfair to her, but certain styles of communication differences have been pointed out to me by counselors.  I left my job and have struggled finding a new one.  I always have sought to be an entrepreneur, but tried to keep my options open.  The first year of marriage has been awfully tough given the lack of a job for me, a couple of incidents (one just before the marriage where I was severely attacked and wound up in the emergency room, the other was a severe auto accident where someone smashed my car leading eventually to shoulder surgery) of physical trauma, and my the tremendous pressure my wife's job put on her time (120 hrs/wk plus relocation to another city for large portions of our relationship).  The external pressures of our lives served as rifts, but I believed that our fundamental baseline of communication and love would lead us through.  Though we were going through a rocky time, I always believed that we'd pull through, that this was a temporary bump in the road, my wife obviously thought different.  The speed and severity of our deterioration left me my head spinning.   After a couple of marriage counseling meetings, she exited for what I believed was a "time out."  Three weeks later she entered the session with a prepared statement wanting me to file for separation.  Since this is in no way what I want, I refuse to facilitate any move she makes, and will not escalate it.  I have a tremendous support system, but have found little solace in their words.  They have been shaken by the finality of my wife's decision (though the "d" word has not been broght up), and the speed of the marriage's demise.  We are a very fun loving couple, care about each other, and enjoy each other's company.  It is obvious to me that she had a vision for things.  Our communcation concerning our feelings was never done well.  I overtalked she never talked about her feelings.  Little things accumulated in her, but the stress of our lives seemed to push her to her breaking point.

     

    So she moved out to her sister's who just became a new mom and lives in a massive house with her second husband.  I love her family, but my wife's time alone figuring out the next step must have been affected by seeing what she believes she should have.  I believe she should have this too and hope to provide it for her.  Alas, our counselor was terrible, and even when we had nice times together post walk-out, the animosity she built up would reared its head.  I never hid my issues, but incorporated her in my therapy sessions.  I warned her before the marriage things would not be easy with me, but reassured her that my heart will always be pure for her.  We lived together almost 4 years now, but communcation consistently sufferred from our differing styles and the lack of quality time we shared.  Her mind appears made up at this time, and I seek not to provoke her.  The saddest part is my business has so many lucrtive leads.  Her walking out was the impetus to straighten up my act.  She says she can't forgive me for the past, but I still don't know what I did which was so bad.  She cites "promises I did not keep."  I am a very loving husband, drove her to and from the airport dozens of times, lived with her in another city just to keep my finger on the pulse of our marriage, and genuinely tried to do my best in tough circumstances.  The isolation due to the lack of job always made it tough for her b/c she would be my sounding board that i'd overload many a night when I'm sure she needed to recharge. 

    I was taking cymbalta which I didn't know was affecting me so adversely (intensified my anger and depression), and from November through mid January I was on oxycodone for the pain from shoulder surgery.  I seek not to make excuses but identify and make changes accordingly.  I'm humbled and attempting to meet her stipulations of "responsibility" and "independence."  My wife is very committed in many facets of life save self-care.  She seems so angry at me, and disregarded the positve reviews my changes have garnered.  I hoped her walking-out was a shot across the bow considering she never approached anyone close to me who may have intervened.  It does not seem like there is much hope right now, and it saddens me that these actions certainly do not seem to anyone I know to be the ones of the love I married.  They are completely unilatteral, and I seek ways to repair the damage b/c we were one of those couples who complimented each other well.  So I have posted my despair, sorry for the long topic post, but I wanted to present the sides accurately to solicit informed input (as informed as an outsider can be).  My wife seems burned out, so I am giving her space.  I am Catholic, so I will honor my vows until the final dissolution.  Yet I cannot help but feel like Job.

  • Uncontrollable Rages/Meltdowns of ADD spouse by: StopInterrupting 15 years 9 months ago

    I would really like to hear from non-ADD spouses who experience what I call "meltdowns" from their ADD wives or husbands.  Actually, uncontrolled nuclear fission culminating in a nuclear explosion is the better analogy.  I've seen the phrase "walking on eggshells" throughout this site.  That's how I live.  Actually, it's more like walking through a minefield.  In talking with my wife, I know that at any moment she may take something I say the wrong way, or take it personally, or "mis hear" what I say ("hear" me say things I didn't actually say - scary!) and then fly into a rage.  The insults and yelling and screaming begin and it's like dealing with the Tasmanian Devil.  When this happens and I try to walk away, my wife follows me and keep on attacking.  Or she'll wait a little while and pick up right where she left off, oblivious to my efforts to defuse the situation.  Finally, I lose my temper and fight back.  Then, she attacks me for my own angry words, all the while ignoring what drove me over the edge in the first place, i.e., her meltdown!

    This happened recently the week before the California Bar Exam.  Knowing that a meltdown was possible, (it always is with ADD), I told my wife, "No meltdowns this week.  I don't care if I'm unreasonable.  No meltdowns.  Please, not this week."  Incredibly, she did it anyway when I took a call from her son's father's wife, who called to say the dad, who lives in the UK, had been arrested.  I took the call because I thought my wife would want to know.  My wife considers this woman Satan incarnate, however, and she (my wife) flew into a rage because I had.  I spent the next three days defending myself against outrageous accusations of disloyalty for doing so.  She screamed, yelled, attacked my character, all at a time when I needed to be focused on the single most stressful event a person can go through.  To this day my wife still thinks she was entirely reasonable during all of this.

    This type of rage has happened before.  It's like she turns from this sweet person into a MONSTER in a flash.  Later, she blames me for the meltdown, usually accusing me of "not listening" and that if I had, she wouldn't have t gotten so upset.  Does this sound familiar to anybody else out there?

     

  • ADHD women and the effects of menapause? by: jeb4861 15 years 9 months ago

    I have been in treatment for peri-menapause using natural hormones, vitamins and lifestyle changes while also experiencing a significant increase in my ADHD symptoms for the last 4 years.  Symptoms have included much more distractibility, memory loss and forgetfullness, trouble recalling names and mild depression.  Have been taking Concerta with vague results, and now trying a trial of Amantadine after reading "Delivered from Distraction". 

    I've been told by three practitioners that ADHD and the hormonal changes that accompany menapause is uncharted territory ... was hoping Melissa might be able to suggest further reading on this subject?

    Thanks, J

  • When do I stop believing things will change? by: ontask 15 years 9 months ago

    I truly have come to the end of my rope.

    I have tried for seven years to get my husband to seek help for his ADD.  Despite a psychiatrit's diagnosis, he believes he is "managing " just fine.  I have tried the soft sell.  I have tried the hard sell.  I have tried the ultimatum.  I was diagnosed with ADD 5 years ago and have done pretty well on medication along with therapy.  My husband says, "Just because you have ADD, doesn't mean that I do."

    Except, he does!  He procrastinates, fidgets, zones out, forgets things, can't wait in line, has become addicted to pornography, takes risky short cuts, has has lost a job, never acknowledges milestones, lacks empathy and perception and compassion.  We live from crisis to crisis. If he didn't have a secretary, he would never be employed.) He does not see his part in these crises or rationalizes or justifies his behavior.  

    He does not believe his addiction is linked to untreated ADD.  He tried a 12 step program but has decided that is not for him and has his "demons" under control. This is very scary to me.   

    I'm sitting here in tears now because he has once again promised me that NOW he will focus on our marriage - the issues at the office have been cleared up.  He has his addiction "under control." He wants us to have intimacy and promises to work on empathy.  

    I read an earlier post by Melissa that stated, "if nothing changes, nothing changes" and it reminded me of the definition of insanity -- doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results!

    I feel like I live on a roller coaster.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.... you can't just try harder and then be empathetic!  In addition, we can't have intimacy if there is no empathy or compassion.

    My husband gets angry at me because I react when he forgets something important to me.  He says, "shame isn't healthy for me" and uses it as an excuse to move to the couch.  He then says my anger is holding us back from intimacy.  But let's go back to the beginning..... as my spouse, he is responsible for remembering an anniversary date (just a small example).  My angry or frustrated response is natural.  His neglect or irresponsibility is holding us back from intimacy.

    I'm so confused.  He has me believing that my hurtful reactions to his lack of accountability or irresponsibility have caused the deterioration of our marriage.  He does not see how negatively his ADD is affecting us.  In the first place, he neglects or forgets something, but then later his defensiveness causes a "double-whammy."

    I am so tired.  I am so demoralized.  I am feeling very trapped.  Another question I have is what is the connection between an over-inflated ego or lack of humility and ADD?   His unwillingness to even explore if his ADD is causing major problems for our marriage seems so arrogant.  It is as if he is above reproach.  

    Finally, my husband just is unwilling to understand how his ADD and struggle with addiction have really made me feel so unsafe - so insecure in our life together.  I worry what shoe is going to drop next?  I do this from experience! In another post by Melissa I was reading about basic needs and it was very insightful because when a person's basic needs go unmet, it is impossible to live without tension and anxiety.

    I recognize his behavior is our of my control.  I can only change myself.  But how can one come to accept this way of life?  

    I have given up a career to stay at home with our sons. I can't just jump into the workforce and make what my husband is making to support myself.  However, staying here is killing me.  It really is.  I'm so frustrated.  He claims I have drawn a line in the sand with threats of divorce, but really, he is the one that has drawn the line in the sand because he is not willing to explore his part in all this.

    Any words of wisdom?

  • re:children with Adhd by: optomistic 15 years 9 months ago

    Melissa Just a thought.  I know that this is a forum for adults but I was wondering if because this forum is so helpful for adults could you have a forum for children of Adhd. I have a son with Adhd/Odd and I think his older brother had a mild case of Adhd. I think it would be so helpful as I have been searching for a forum and not really finding something useful. Any suggestions??? life with a special needs kid can be hard as well. Thanks for any help....

  • ADD is ripping our blended family apart by: Sophi 15 years 9 months ago

    We're a blended family. My partner with ADD and his two girls (12 and 17) and me and my son (14) and daughter (16) moved in together about 6 months ago. The children get on really well, we all do. Lately though my partner has been very strict on my son - and is driving my son crazy - he has very high expectations of my son and my son can't do eneough to please him. My son up until now has done everything he has been able to to be understanding about my partner's ADD, but he has had enough and wants to move out. They had a big argument the other night over some ridiculous thing that my partner misunderstood and he said very mean and nasty things to my son. I wasn't there at the time. So, my son wants to leave, I can't let him go on his own, if he goes I go....a deal breakerl...the family is over. My ADD-partner won't budge, he says it's going to be his way, one way or the other (whatever the hell that means). Have tried talking to my partner but i just get the silent treatment when it comes to my son. He's backing me into a corner - of which there is only one way out.

    Can anyone offer assistance, maybe in a similar situation?

  • The brink of divorce - advice from the other side by: george 15 years 9 months ago

    This post is intended as a response to a post by "Tom T", in which an ADHD husband is confused about why his wife has left him.  It is also addressed to all the ADHD spouses who still remain clueless about the impacts of the ADHD on their relationships, and are inadvertently driving their spouses to leave them.  Tom is confused by his wife's leaving because asserts he is a good person and thought the marriage was good.

    To tom:

     

    Where your instincts may fail you is how your ADHD-influenced actions affect other people around you, especially your spouse.  My first marriage ended after five years.  To me, everything seemed fine, and then one day she just left.  For many years I was puzzled as to why she left, and always thought it was her fault (as did most of our friends).

    Only now, in retrospect, do I understand why she may have left.  That retrospection came from a twenty year second marriage that went right to the brink, with my believing that I was OK, a good husband, and the issues were with my wife.  It did not end in divorce, ONLY because I began to realize how my actions (or non-actions) negatively affected my wife.  Surprisingly, the road to that discovery and the self-awareness came from working for a boss who had a very bad case of ADHD (the case for many entrepreneurs and CEO's).  Seeing my actions in a mirror came as quite a shock.

    Things like outbursts of anger or harsh responses, that most ADHD don't even realize they do, have an incredible impact on those with whom you have a relationship.

    My advise to you is as follows:

    • Fully understand ADHD and its impacts on you (Ned Hallowell's two books on ADHD, Driven to and Delivered from Distraction are the two best, IMHO)
    • Fully understand the impact of ADHD on those around you (this is hard - your spouse has probably been telling you, but your own world view has filtered them out - hence why your wife has left you.  A great place to start is looking through the posts on this site by the spouses of ADHD men and do some deep soul-searching to see if some of the symptoms they describe might apply to you, and especially focus on the impacts on them that they describe. If you see some similarities, dig deeper and be even more introspective, and work very hard to remove the filters you put on your world view of life, and accept that the world views of your spouse might have been the correct ones.  You will find this harder, now that your wife is gone.  You should still do this for the sake of your next relationship, so that it has some chance of survival.)
    • Get treatment.  Medication helps many (even though you might not feel any different - those around you will notice), but medication is only the start, not the conclusion of your journey.  It is in most cases necessary, but not sufficient, to help your marriage.
    • Acknowledge and break your bad ADHD- exacerbated habits.  Medication helps many with the understanding and acknowledgement required for the first two topics above, but you still need to break habits that you developed over a life time.  That will take time, much humility (as you discover that your confidence in your worldview erodes, and you begin to take responsibility for the impact your actions have, and have had over the course of your life), and coaching from friends, loved ones around you, and probably professional help (although the "marriage" counselors who didn't understand ADHD did more to destroy my marriage than to repair it - that is another longer story).
    • Start enjoying your relationship/marriage again.  This seems so far from any reality for most of the visitors on this site, but yes, you and your non-ADHD spouse can once again live a very joyous relationship, one that is even stronger than many, based on having both peered over the brink, and worked together to return.  Life should be happy.  Marriages should be filled with joy.  It takes work.

    Most of the steps above are outlined in much greater detail elsewhere in this blog.  You just have to be open to learning from them.

    IMPORTANT

    First step, ditch your "instincts".  You really cannot begin to comprehend how your actions affect others.  You may not be bad, but your actions have a very significant negative impact on those you love.

    Second, understand the difference between a "bad person" and one whose however inadvertent actions negatively impact others.

    If you cling to your instincts and your worldview of you equating good motives with good outcome, you will fail.

     

  • At wit's end (long post, sorry) by: psych 15 years 9 months ago

    I am new to this site and am wavering between relief (that I'm not the only one going through this and that I'm NOT crazy) and despair (that people with many more years of marriage under their belts are continuing to struggle).

    Some background first: I have ADHD, never medicated and not actually diagnosed until I was 22, although it was suspected since I was very young. I have always been rather high functioning -- I did very well in school and figured out early on how to compensate for my tendency of being disorganized by becoming OVERLY-organized. My mother, also ADHD, is the same way; my sister, ADHD too, is also high functioning, but has always struggled a little more with inattention. We are a high-achieving family, very close and supportive, and open to talking about any issue. My mother, sister, and I also have depression -- diagnosed and treated since we were young and closely followed by psychiatrists. We are very open in my family in talking about mental health issues. I guess you could say I'm ambitious as well -- I have 2 master's degrees and a doctorate in psychology.

    My husband and I have been married for 11 months, but have been together for 5 years. He comes from a blue-collar background - no higher education in his family. Also, his family is very closed off -- they interact, but superficially. There is NO discussion about anything of substance, such as mental health or emotions. For example, his father is seriously clinically depressed, but refuses to even acknowledge the possibility, let alone get treatment for it. My husband dropped out of school at 16 and got his GED because he "hated school." He is clearly very intelligent, given that he passed without studying at all. He didn't get any further education (which now limits him in job choices). He left his parents' home at 18 and went to live with his older brother where he worked an 8 hour job then came home and played computer games all night. He stopped taking care of himself, ate pizza and drank coke for all meals (because he knew the delivery guy), didn't socialize, spent money irresponsibly (put a fancy stereo system in his car, but didn't get dental care, resulting in a moutful of rotten teeth which we have spent THOUSANDS of dollars on fixing and his teeth still need more work; got his car reposessed at age 28, which is still affecting our credit). By the time we met, he had corrected a lot of that (paid off the car, moved out of his brother's house), but still didn't act how I would think an adult man should -- for example, he didn't even have a bank account.

    I was ok with that at first because at my prompting, he changed some things -- he got a better job, opened a bank account, etc. However, I very quickly realized he had dyslexia - hence his dislike for school and his dropping out at 16 (I still cannot believe that it went undiagnosed until he was 30, but I guess with parents who aren't educated about it, they didn't notice) and Bipolar II. Since being together, he has gone through periods of hating his job, hating his coworkers; periods where he was always in a foul mood, snappish and argumentative, where he would lose his temper without provocation. There was even a period when he got laid off, then made very little to no effort to find another job, sank into pretty deep depression, and either sat on the couch watching TV or playing his computer game every day, not helping around the house. There were times where I tried to break off our relationship/engagement, giving him the ultimatum of getting treatment and getting back on track or me leaving. Thankfully, he got treatment and has been on mood stabilizers and anti-depressants under the care of his doctor. His mood has improved and there have been no more depressed periods. He is employed full time and even took one of our long discussions to heart and has improved in helping with chores and in taking care of some obligations.

    However, I notice that he still lacks motivation and/or ambition. This is especially hard for me, given how driven I am. He SAYS he wants a house, a career (not just a job), a better education, and to be a good father when we have kids, but I don't see the follow-through. He doesn't save money. He doesn't look into things, like how to buy your first home. He doesn't even follow-through when I looked up how to buy your first home and asked him to read the information! So is this a lack of real motivation and he's just saying what he thinks I want to hear, or is it a true lack of follow-through? Or does he just lack the knowledge about HOW to follow-through? He can usually follow the steps if someone outlines them for him, but I'm tired of being the one to tell him what to do all the time. I'm not his mother! I can't understand that if he wants to go to college, why he can't contact the school for more information, look on the internet for information on degrees and classes, etc. on his own, without my prompting him or hounding him, or standing behind his shoulder!!! He is also completely unorganized and the most forgetful person I've ever met. I swear, he'd forget his own head if it wasn't connected to his body!!! For example, we just relocated to another state and he is applying for jobs. However, he lost his resume -- he had to have his mother (keep in mind that he is 35 years old) -- HIS MOTHER -- email his resume to him. He also forgot his cell phone (the only one he has as we don't have a land line) at a friend's house (out of state), so they will have to mail it to him. He can't keep track of important things, like car titles, insurance information, or his own birth certificate. He forgets to do things, even with a list or reminders or post-it notes. I'll send him to the grocery store and he'll come home with completely different things because he doesn't take the time to look at what he's buying (bought orange juice in a carton instead of milk, etc). Sometimes I'll come home in the evening when he's had the day off, and the dogs haven't been fed and have no water in their bowls. Maybe it's unreasonable, but I'm terrified that I'll come home one day in the future and our children will have been taken by Social Services because he forgot to feed them or forgot to pick them up or lost them somewhere!

    I'm really becoming more and more resentful about having to be the responsible one. It's getting to the point that I can't keep rude or derogatory comments to myself anymore and I'm even saying them in front of others! I hate myself for being ugly and disrespectful! I feel like a b**** all the time, which makes me even more resentful. I'm so unhappy. I don't know what to do.

  • Reasonably Affordable Coach? by: CanDoGal 15 years 9 months ago

    Can anyone recommend a reasonably affordable coach? My husband is doing a lot of that "trying but not changing" stuff that Melissa talked about recently. I think coaching would help a lot, and my husband agrees - but keeps balking at the price. Phone and email contact would be fine - ideal, actually.

    I did some looking and sent him a list of coaches a while back. He did call one, and liked her, but she charges $400 a month. I thought it sounded cheap compared to the emotional stress, but he felt that it would make our budget too tight. I think getting things together would save money in the end. I also don't want to undervalue someone's time - good care does cost money. I sent him info on the online self-coaching thing - I think it's called skoach - and he looked at it, but didn't think it would help enough.

    Does anyone have a good suggestion? I'd love to find someone who he'd agree to try. I really do think it's the missing link to a healthy marriage around here. Instead of wasting energy "trying" I'd like to see him get some success and feel good about himself. And remember my birthday and such, of course. :-)

    Being a therapist myself, I know only too well how little most therapists "get" the coaching process - it's totally a different thing. Though I do think it's time for that as well - feelings are a little too raw around here. He agrees, and I'm calling someone I know of tomorrow. It'll help, too - but too bad insurance won't help pay for coaching!

    Thanks.

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