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  • Terrified of living with ADHD spouse again - how do we move forward? by: Theworrier 7 years 1 month ago

    Hello my lovely people! 

    I really need some advice on if there's anything I can do to chat to my boyfriend without offending him, and move forward, so we can possibly live together again.
    A few months ago my boyfriend told me he thinks he still has ADHD after being diagnosed as a kid, and we both agreed it fit a lot with how he is. To be honest, it's been a shock to me after being together four years - I feel like I'm with a new person, and I feel sad that it's never going to get easier - I always thought he was messy and lacking attention for certain things due to age, job and environment.

    I've tried reading up about it a lot, and tried to talk to him about it. He has no interest in medication or counseling. His mum tried all sorts of methods with him as a child and none of it worked, while ritalin made him lose all his friends and he still ended up failing essays due to his dysfunctional family life. He has told me I should take him or leave it - this is how he is, it isn't a condition but his personality. He said if he doesn't make me happy why am I staying with him? He laughed at me for reading a book about it, and told me he was unique - no book will tell me what to do and I should talk to him about it, which I have been trying. 

    He has limited interest in a good diet and exercise, going for the easiest, tastiest options first, with little routine on when he eats, and it's beginning to show. I know diet and exercise is meant to help, and it's really helped me overcome anxiety and feel good about myself, but if I want to spend time with him, I find it hard to keep it up my healthy endeavours. I'm starting to feel extremely pissed off that it's so difficult for him to do basic things such as brushing his teeth, putting his clothes in a chest of drawers, cooking, turning lights off, showering, and that it's unlikely to change after how our initial chats have gone. I understand that these things can be difficult but in my head I feel these basic self care things could really help other areas in his life - but I don't know if that's just from my own, non ADHD experience. He says he tries to eat healthily and I end up being critical as he's eaten bacon, two pies and fried chicken, which I doubt helps anything in hindsight.

     I feel all critical and annoyed that he doesn't seem to want to make any positive changes, and I hate feeling like this! What happened to the fun loving times!? 

    We have lived together in the past but I'm wondering now if it's ever going to be possible again. When we lived together last time it took everything out of me. We have discussed having separate rooms, as I feel like I need a lot of alone time to make sure I don't lose sight of myself. I am generally feeling terrified still however, as I feel there is no progress and it will end up how it was before, and if that's the case, how can we grow up to have kids and buy a house?! 

    How have you guys with SO's overcome the problems you can face as a result of ADHD? Is it possible to talk about it without offending one another? He's such a lovely, funny and kind guy, a best friend, but I also am starting to wonder if we have a future without dysfunction and chaos. I really appreciate it if you've managed to read this far and any advice you have. X

  • New here. Need help. by: sp2017 7 years 1 month ago

    Hi. I've been reading this forum for awhile. Finally decided to register and submit a post. Like many others it seems, I am at my wit's end. Please forgive what follows.

    My husband has ADHD and takes medication, but I don't think it is working. Or maybe it is and he would be even worse without it. I don't know. He also self medicates with alcohol and other substances, which is intolerable for me. I think at this point, I just want a divorce because nothing else is working. He has been out of work for a year and a half. He is educated, with a graduate degree from an Ivy League university -- so I know he can focus when he wants to do so. He is "dabbling" at looking for a job. Occasionally he comes up with a crazy idea that he is going to run a business -- of course, there is no actual business idea to speak off -- or worse, to run the business remotely from some foreign country. I don't even know how to respond to that.

    He has a hobby that is very expensive and will use a credit card that he got in his own name to buy things for that. I've since destroyed the credit card and moved most of our money into an account that he does not have access to -- I hate doing this because it feels so controlling but my salary is just enough to cover the mortgage and other bills, and I'm just trying to prevent financial ruin and ensure there are funds to pay bills. He has created absolute chaos in our lives with this hobby by acquiring many things related to it and having many unfinished projects hanging over us. I have tried to help him multiple times to get these projects done -- paying people to assist and helping myself as well --  but nothing seems to work. He is burying us. 

    Things exploded last night when once again my frustration with the situation became too much for me to handle. I have started to feel ill from the situation with many stress-related ailments. He blames me for everything that is wrong in his life and says he has no support, which is not true at all. I have suggested so many things over the years -- including an ADHD coach, other therapy, trying to reduce the amount of projects, etc. I have taken many weekends to sort through his papers and things to organize them. I have set up systems to try and help. I've bought open shelves and labeled things so he can easily find and put things away. No matter what I do, it always reverts to complete chaos.

    We have been married for many years and the lawyer that I consulted thinks I will have to take care of him financially until he is 65. I am really struggling with that because I don't see how it is possible for me to pay for two households when my salary alone barely covers one. I honestly don't know how I will be able to live. I am so tired of taking care of a 50 plus year old child.

    I feel very stuck and hopeless. I do still love him, but I hate being married to him. My anger, frustration and resentment is eating me alive. We no longer have any physical relationship because I cannot force myself to do something I hate. He makes snide comments about this from time to time and it makes me feel guilty and sad. 

    I'm not sure if there is a point to this post. Just looking for some support I guess.

  • My relationship is slowly killing me by: ableist 7 years 2 months ago

    Hi,

    Non-ADHD spouse dumping a wall of text here, but I really need to vent.

    I've been together with my wife for 5 years now, we had a very passionate and short courting, we quickly moved in together and we were inseparable. Within about a year she became pregnant. It was unplanned but we were happy about it.

    I had noticed some things about her, she wasn't very good with money. She made a lot of impulse purchases, she couldn't plan meals or cook. But I chalked that up to her having a kind of crappy upbringing and something we could work on.

    Once she was pregnant I found out that she had brought a lot of debt into the relationship, me being blinded by the fact that we were going to start a family just paid it all off for her in one go, effectively almost eradicating my savings completely. I wanted us to start fresh, a blank slate.

    While she was pregnant she quickly became very depressed and it turned out she spent most of those 9 months pregnant racking up more debt by buying a lot of stuff for the baby on credit. When I found out I was of course angry and felt betrayed, but I paid it off again. This time actually eradicating my savings. 

    So fast forward to about the time of the birth of our child, I found out that she again had racked up a bunch of debt behind my back. Mind you, not spending the money on anything you could sell back or return, basically just makeup and stuff she could hide around the house and pretend she had gotten as presents from her (I would later learn) estranged family. This time, I told her, was the last time I would bail her out. I took a decently sized loan to cover all of the small, high interest loans she had accrued over time. 

    That's when she started buying things on credit, in my name. I found out by accident by spotting my name on some luxury brand packaging in one of the recycling bins in the apartment building. 

    Still I didn't leave and I asked her to go see a therapist about this, otherwise I would have to leave her to basically save myself.

    The money turned out to be the smallest problem. She eventually went to therapy and stopped ruining my credit. But at this point, paying off the loans was really dragging us down, and she still wasn't working.

    After the pregnancy she became very depressed and I tried to help her best I could, I worked from home a lot so I could take care of both her and the baby, I didn't have the opportunity to take any parental leave and with our savings completely gone and debt skyrocketing, I had to work as much as I humanly could. She went on anti-depressants and not soon after, I too became depressed. I used to love life, I worked out all the time, I took pride in my appearance and I loved any and all social interactions, I lost all that during the first year. I couldn't go to work out even for half an hour without her sending pictures of our crying baby to me saying how the sound was killing her. Wherever I went, to work or grocery shopping, I would always get streams of panicked text messages, "Please call me as soon as you see this!" "Please hurry home!". I had to do all the cooking, I paid all the bills, I took most of the nights with the baby and I worked more than 40 hours a week. I just resigned from all recreation, resigned from me being me.

    Her take on it was that I wasn't doing enough. I didn't want it enough. Why was I so angry with her all the time? If only I weren't so angry we wouldn't have any problems. 

    Once our child was old enough to start day care, I took out my last couple of vacation days to ease her into day care, even though my wife still wasn't working or studying. I was becoming resentful and angry. Disappointed in what had become of my life. I felt that all my control had been stripped from my hands and I was now just tumbling, spiraling into darkness. I hated her for it. The first year and a half I was optimistic and kept thinking that "Oh, once X happens Y will turn around, I'll just stick it out until then", but the goal posts just kept swooping farther away every time.

    This was basically the status quo for three years. She started her studies again, but couldn't finish. There was always something distracting her, it was our child being to loud, or me not having done the dishes, or she just had to finish this very important discussion on Facebook. I was livid most of the time, but kept it bottled up. It took her almost 1,5 years to finish her last three or four very short courses for school, she wouldn't go to class and she'd get some written assignment which of course, just sat there, with me prodding and trying to get her to do her school work, desperate that she could start working and help me pay off all the debt she had brought on.

    Fast-forward to her getting a temp job where she got in contact with some people with confirmed ADHD diagnosis. She immediately recognized a lot of the traits they described in herself and we started to try to get her diagnosed as well. She almost immediately, after a few sessions, got diagnosed with severe ADD and they started her on all the meds, she got their full attention and was offered therapy sessions for basically nothing. I was elated, now I was sure it would turn around. I made the mistake of thinking the ADD meds would be a silver bullet for all our problems. At this point I was driving her to work 3-4 times a week, a 24 mile detour on my already 35 mile long commute. After about a month after she had started her meds I decided to leave her, I couldn't do this anymore, I had to sever and try to regroup and recover away from her. She didn't understand why I was leaving her, I had come to terms with leaving this relationship and being the bad guy, it didn't matter, I wouldn't survive if I stayed.

    I was couch surfing for about a month and we took turns living in our apartment while the other spouse stayed somewhere else so our child would still have some sense of a status quo. A few weeks passed and she called me and said she wanted to talk. I eventually said that I'd hear her out. She basically apologized for everything, that she could see what she had done in our relationship. She had never ever before expressed that she might have any part in the anger and resentment I felt. So I came back. I thought we could work it out from here.

    Now some more months have passed and I'm still driving her to work, maybe just 3-4 times a month, and maybe she cooks a meal once every two weeks. Of course these are all improvements but I feel like I am fed up. I just want to take control over my life, set a budget, set goals, achieve goals, put my kid to bed at a decent hour and feed her a decent meal. Another aspect is that she is a "neat freak", our home has to be 100% organized at all times, and 100% spotless, or she'll get stuck in her ADD just moving things around, making it messier. It is a complete no-go to leave the dishes for tomorrow and just relax and have a glass of wine on a Friday night. The kitchen needs to be absolutely spotless. And then she'll notice a speck of something on a cupboard and she'll start on that and then she'll notice that there's some dust on the bathroom floor and so on and so forth and I'll be sitting there just trying to relax but completely unable to and you can basically forget about the movie we were supposed to watch at 9 pm. She'll remember that around midnight and be mad that I went to bed when we were supposed to hang out.

    I think I am about to leave again, and I think I am leaving for good. The anger and resentment just won't leave me. I have been reading "The ADHD Effect On Marriage" and it's been a very hard read for me. I recognize all of the stories and reading about the work I am supposed to put into this marriage to get a life that I - in the end - am not sure I would be satisfied with, is making me very depressed. At this point I think I am too damaged and too resentful to be able to be in any kind of relationship. I just want to become myself again, my own person, the disciplined guy who works hard and gets stuff done.

    The last time I felt that I was even close to the person I once was, was during that month and a half of separation. And I can't stop dreaming about it. When I talk to her about it, she thinks I want an affair or that I want to start dating someone. But that's not even on the map. I just want my life to be mine again, so I can be a happy and caring father for my child and give him/her the best possible life that I can.

    I just don't know what to do at this point. We're going to couples therapy but, reading the book and from the progress we're not making, I think we need a therapist with experience in dealing with ADHD but I'm not sure I have the energy to deal with all of this stuff. I just need to live MY life. I still love her though, she's the smartest and funniest person I have ever met, and when things are good she is my very best friend and on the other hand I resent her so that I sometimes can't stand the sight of her. I wish I had found this book 3 years ago.

     

  • Choice? or Inability? by: c ur self 7 years 2 months ago

    What level of our actions are by choice vs an inability?.....How fixed is human behavior?....What purpose does emotion play (act, react) in the over all scheme of human molding?....Does it help or hurt? Is it wasted energy? Or, do you feel it's productive?? What does society and our own relationships, tell us about the ability or inability for change (not considering spiritual enlightenment) with in a human mind??

    Should every thing said or done that is not sought or heard.... Stop!

    Just wondering, what you think.....I think our minds, left to the human part of us, is just floundering for truth, and at best, it will always work out in a selfish model....I also think verbal communication where awareness and a desire to engage isn't in both or all parties, is dysfunctional at best...And very limited when it comes to producing agreement and understanding...

    If we discipline ourselves to this end, can we avoid forming unhealthy opinions, will it limit the temptation to judge another person or speak hurtful words....Doesn't our living of life on a daily bases, (the fruit we produce) clearly state who we are, without one word being spoken?? 

    What about you? What are your feelings?

    C

  • Can't be diagnosed due to lack of parents by: Snail 7 years 2 months ago

    Hello, just curious if anyone else has run into this issue.  I'm currently living in the UK - so using the NHS to help diagnose my husband. We got lucky and got an appointment with a psychologist within six months and he did an intake on my husband.  I wrote up a two page paper of his symptoms and how this has caused problems in our life.  At the end the therapist said that my husband had the symptoms, BUT: He didn't figet or pace the floor when the therapist was talking to him. (Although the entire time my husband was picking the skin on his hands and fiddling) Also, they cannot diagnose him because my husband could not get statements from his family about his behavior when he was little.  Hubs mom is passed on and his dad is a Narcissist that we had to cut out of our lives due to multiple types of abuse. He also cannot be diagnosed because he does not have his report cards from when he was around age five to a teen. This intake was last year and since then they've had him go on a mindfulness course which did F and all.  How does one get diagnosed say if their entire family is dead?!  Because of the usual financial disaster he creates literally every 3-4 months and a genetic disease I just got diagnosed with and not working currently, we cannot pay for private care.  Any ideas on how to get a diagnosis? We've been married five years and it's been hell for about 4.5 of them. I'm burning out. My health issues have gotten worse (which led to my diagnosis), I don't know what my future will be, wheelchair etc, so I've got that mental mind F going on right now along with him not being able to do simple things like wear clean clothes when they're available. (He'll wear the SAME clothes to work for weeks even if a clean uniform is avail..) Picking up after him is literally physically taxing.

  • ADHD or BPD? by: bowlofpetunias 7 years 2 months ago

    For several years, I have suspected that my wife may have high-functioning Borderline Personality Disorder.  She has an official diagnosis of Bipolar II and is taking mood stabilizers--but not at the dosage that the psychiatrist recommends.

    Recently, our daughter was diagnosed with ADHD.  I started reading some information on ADHD in marriages and suspected that some of the negative behavior might be ADHD rather than BPD.

    Here are some types of behavior:

    • Making promises that she can't keep (offering to pay for things, for example) or does not keep.  Or perhaps could keep but they make things difficult for other people.  For example, she invited her friend's mother to stay in our hotel room during a recent family vacation--without asking me or the kids! 
    • Sabotaging plans that she has made--Saying she wants to have sex, for example, and then declaring that it is "family movie night" so we stay up late and do not have sex.  Or she just gets wrapped up on the internet, tv, phone, etc. and does not follow through.  This is extremely frustrating for me because it often causes me to waste a Cialis pill--insurance only covers 4 each month.
    • Blurting out hurtful things and then claiming she is not inconsiderate--she just does not think about my feelings!  "That's just the way I am."  At a bar mitzvah, for example, she asked how my diet was going when they lifted the kid's son up on the chair.  Then she had the nerve to ask me how she could express concern over the mother's health without offending her for being overweight!  Or waking me up to tell me her mother thought I looked "bloated."  Or telling me that I needed to lose weight--in the middle of sex, while I was having trouble breathing because she was lying on top of me.
    • Blurting out awkward things--I was warned her that a colleague's dog was known to bite and she should careful around the dog with our then infant son.  She then blurted this out to the colleague--someone who helped get me the job and could have had influence on whether I continued in the position.
    • Volunteering me for things, particularly with our kids.  One time, she told her friends that "we" (mostly me) would make a whole batch of homebrew for them--without asking me!  Then they assumed I would do a second batch for them.  (I know, I should have drawn boundaries.)
    • Being unable to end an argument.  It may be getting the last word in.  Or she may lose sight of the reason we are arguing (OK, I know that you want me to clean the bathroom.  Just stop arguing so I can clean it and I will do it now!  You are preventing me from doing the bathroom.)  Or she may just not accept victory as an option.  She told me to stop reading a comic to our daughter because it was "innappropriate."  I stopped and said I was sorry.  She kept hammering on me in front of the kids--"I don't want you to say you are sorry.  We have to be on the same page."
    • Claiming that I do not "back her up" with the kids, but I do not know which "her" to back up.  She decides (without asking me) that our son can't play video games the rest of the day.  I spend several hours saying "no" as he pesters me to play.  And then, without asking me, she decides to let him play.
    • Rapid escalation of punishments for the kids, often unrelated to the problems. Then back-pedaling.  
    • Redirecting anger from the kids or others onto me. The kids got into a fight at a rest stop while I was getting coffee.  She took over driving and started yelling at me about how I wanted to go to a restaurant we could not afford--but she is the one who suggested the restaurant.  I had merely said, "OK"  This was a horrendous fight that led me to make a marriage counseling or divorce ultimatum.
    • Lots of interruptions.  I do human rights volunteer work, for example, and it involves reading a lot of Spanish-language material.  I will stop to talk with her and then resume reading when I think she is done.  But then she starts again.  And again.  And again.  20 minutes later, I am rereading the same paragraph.  This was really bad when I was doing my dissertation research.
    • Also interrupting me when I try to talk.  The subjects change so frequently, that what I want to say is no longer relevant by the time I get a chance to say it.  When I raise my finger in an "I have a point to make" signal, she takes it as me "wagging my finger at her."  She once complained that I should not treat her like one of my college students--which I found really hurtful.  She never saw me teach, but there she was saying that I was disrespectful toward my students.
    • Forgetting I am there.  We could be standing in line at an amusement park, for example, and she will start conversations with strangers and not involve me at all.  I may need to talk to her about the kids, but she blames me for being rude for trying to tell her something important.  Everyone else seems so much more interesting than me.
    • Lots of blame shifting.  As in the case of blaming me for wanting to go to the "too expensive" restaurant that she picked out.  She demanded that I needed to apologize for "getting defensive" when she started screaming at me for no reason and would not listen to logic (As in "I did not say I wanted to go there.  I don't even recall the name of the place.  You looked it up on your phone and got directions.  I just said, 'OK.'")  
    • Double standards--she will act like I am a horrible child abuser when I raise my voice to the kids, but she gets much more angry at them, for example.
    • Not accepting consequences for her actions--She once made fun of me for bringing my jacket because I would be too hot.  That night, however, she demanded that I should give her the jacket because she was cold.  I should be cold because she did not want to bring her jacket.
    • Lying--denying that she just said something, for example.
    • Damned-if-I-do, Damned-if-I-Don't behavior.  She started yelling at the kids, and I stayed quiet because 1) I was afraid that she would apply the double standard and accuse me of being abusive to the kids and 2) because she was already going overboard on the kids, so more yelling is the last thing we need.  She then accused me of not backing her up.  The following day, however, I do yell at the kids because I am afraid that she will start a fight over me not backing her up.  Voila!  Once again, she accuses me of being abusive.  Or yelling at me because I did not do dishes--when I had spent the evening working on laundry and she had thanked me for that at the time.  Or even yelling at me for not doing the dishes when I did as many as would fit in the dish drain.
    • She used to "encourage" me to go on amusement park rides by saying that they were "not too high" or "not too steep," which had the affect of making me feel like I was being called chicken.  (I have actually developed a liking for roller coasters--once she laid off of this and I started on really tame rides and played around with computer simulators.)  We recently climbed a light house.  I overcame my fear of heights enough to take a few steps out of the doorway.  Another couple came up.  The man was really giving the woman a hard time about her fear of heights.  My wife blurted out that even I was able to go out, so wasn't that bad.  I called her on this, and she said she was just "trying ot be encouraging."  I pointed out that the woman did not want to be encouraged.
    • Answering questions that have nothing to do with the question I actually asked her--possibly the questions she thinks I "should" have asked.  "Which train line do we want?"  "The train that leaves at 12:05."  Gee, I wanted to make sure that we were going to the right place instead of departing at a certain time and winding up God-knows-where.  Or maybe two trains leave at 12:05?  Or maybe the 12:05 has been delayed to 12:10?  Which train will get us where we want to go?
    • Completing my sentences for me, often in ways that make me look bad and have very little to do with what I was about to say.
    • She once got a parking ticket with my car and repeatedly told me I she was going to pay it.  Next thing I know, I get a letter stating that my license has been suspended.
    • Discounting/invalidating.  She ignores my warnings that we need to find time to mow or the neighbors will complain, and then argues that the town was wrong to complain.  Or ridiculing me in front of people with the excuse of "I was teasing.  That's what couples do" when I tell her how embarrassed I felt.  Or sometimes she discounts my opinion repeatedly, then all of a sudden says that someone else told her the same thing I did without acknowledging that I had already said that repeatedly--as if it is new to me.  
    • We aren't meeting our goals--let's set higher goals!  She puts off her turn to clean the cat boxes to the point where the basement smells and the cats start peeing outside of the boxes.  Instead of saying that we (she) need to stick to the schedule we have in place, she should change the schedule so we are supposed to clean them daily!
    • Buying Marge the bowling ball.  She once surprised me with a trip to the Renaissance Fair for my birthday--even though I had repeatedly told her over several years that I was not interested in going to the Renaissance Fair.  But she wanted to go.

    Sorry for venting about so much.  But it seems like a lot of this could be ADHD or BPD.

    Some things that are more BPD and not really ADHD:

    • All or nothing thinking.  We were camping at a music festival once.  We spend hours driving around in circles trying to camp at the "right" section--thus missing the music we were there to hear. Our son doesn't do his homework, so she tells him that she "knows" he can get straight As.  Then he says he might as well not do the homework because it won't be good enough.
    • Black and white thinking.  Women who have c-sections are bad.  Ok, she had a C-section.  It was the midwife's fault.  But she is going to V-back next time.  I can promise her that she is going to be able to have a vaginal birth, right?  Why don't I believe in her?  Good mothers stay home.  Her friend got to stay home, why couldn't she?  (I was proud of having my first real job out of grad school, so this was really hard to hear.  Her friend married a CPA who could support a stay-at-home mother.  My teaching salary was not enough.)  Good mothers can stop their babies from crying.  Why couldn't she get our son to stop crying?  She has failed as a mother!  I tried to support her that babies cry and sometimes you can't do anything about it.  She keeps yelling and sobbing about it and I am left resenting that I have have to listen to her on top of our son's crying.  Often, her attempts to be the perfect mother wind up preventing her from doing what is actually best for our kids.  Good mother's use cloth diapers.  Bad mothers use disposables.  Our daughter went through several months of severe rashes before she gave in and heeded the pediatrician's advice that we switch to disposables.  Then the rashes went away.
    • Alienating coworkers whom she says have called her angry--she's not angry (just like she is not angry when yelling at me.)  Then she lost the job--several times. 
    • Jekyll & Hyde anger.  It comes out of nowhere and then seems to disappear abruptly.  She expects everything to be fine.  Why am I still hurt?
    • Irrational fear of abandonment--If I decide to sleep on the couch because I can't get any sleep after a fight, that must mean we are getting a divorce!  So I have to come back to bed, or we are going to get a divorce.
  • Is there any anger that is appropriate? by: Chevron 7 years 2 months ago

    Must the "grown up" adult always tolerate and be patient, and never express anger?  Or even HAVE any anger?

    ....I find that there's a rather extensive therapeutic literature about this question.  

     

  • Why won't my ADHD spouse get help even though he is making our family miserable? by: cant-talk-to-fr... 7 years 2 months ago

    My story is like so many others on here. ADHD spouse who is unreliable, lies, is a financial mess and never takes responsibility for his actions.

    The most recent is that he drove our car for a year with an expired license and no insurance. WHY?! Because he missed an appointment to go to the next level with his license and he needed to start over so he instead just kept driving our children every day for a year. Till the police pulled him over for an expired sticker and he was discovered to also not have a proper license or insurance.

    This is the tip of the iceberg of many fucked up lies that and behavior to c cover-up  his inability to manage his life. He has stolen cheques from me and forged my signature to pay rent when he had no money. He has not invoiced for months at a time when working freelance to the point of having no money. He took money from me to buy a car then said that car was stolen, but it never existed. He even once said he was getting treated for his ADHD but turned out he made up a therapist and was taking vitamins instead of meds.

    He has not had a proper job in years and years. When the kids were in school I was forced to go back to work instead of him because he had no capacity to get a good job and didn't even try. By the way the kids are now going into gr 1 and he still at best has temporary and spotty employment. I have a very good government job and have been the main earner in our relationship since always.

    I pay the majority of our expenses and only ask him for half the mortgage every month. He often at the very last second will say he doesn't have the money, or will only give me part of it. He never warns me so I am often scrambling to pay for things.

    We own a house which I paid for, we own a care which I paid for. He never even has more than a hundred dollars in the bank. And he actually is completely unappreciative of these things. He constantly talks about how he does not want the responsibility and shows zero gratitude.

    I am angry and bitter. And I scream constantly but nothing wakes him up! I recently had an emotional affair with an ex that lives far away and has his own family and my spouse suspected me and took my phone and read everything. That ex got freaked out that my spouse would tell his wife so he has now apruptly cut me off which hurts. I am mourning the loss of that relationship because at least it was a lovely distraction and something to look forward to. But even this is not enough to wake my partner up.

    He won't even write in an agenda. Or do things to manage his ADHD. I bought him the ADHD and marriage book years ago and he won't read it. And when I get angry he says 'I am trying'. How is he trying?! I have zero attraction to him and I am depressed and just cut off. 

    I've been trying to just focus on myself and what I need but it is so hard to not get dragged down by the constand financial stress my partner puts on me and our family. And his constant lies are devastating. How can I ever hope for happines when he is completely unwilling to take any action to make it better?

  • Maintenance by: jennalemone 7 years 2 months ago

    I want to say to H, "You garner for yourself nice things.  Then you don't take care of your things.  Once you have acquired them, you let them rust and pile up with your other things in dirty hoarding piles.  It is what you did to me.  Once you got me, you ignored me.  I would say our relationship needed some attention but you would call me names for letting you know the marriage needed maintenance (as tho I was trying to tell you to do something you did not want to do and no one is going to tell you what to do). I and our marriage get no more of your thoughts and energy than those things in your hoarding piles.....forgotten rubbish".  

  • Where to start?..... by: Zapp10 7 years 2 months ago

    My journey into Adhd land was only the beginning of what has been a 7 year journey into a dynamic that evolved over 44 years of marriage.

    I am posting under this topic because I am FINALLY getting a glimpse of a better future for both my H(adhd/attachment disorder) and I.....together or apart.

    I will say the very best advice I chose to follow was MY co dependency. No matter the reasons behind it.....once I accepted it ....whoa! What do they say about bad habits? Hard.....HARD to stop. Disengaging while still in the thick of it? Holy cow! It is a sneaky little sucker and it is not something you fix in yourself overnight. I thought I had a pretty good handle on it.......who was I kidding? Actually having a calm, peaceful mindset  while disengaging was not easily achieved. For me....I had to create physical distance. Did H think that was necessary? Of course not......but at the time.....I was done with what H thought.....because he was concerned with himself( this is not a put down just an honest experience). I have made so much more progress at getting a healthier look at what had been transpiring in the marriage and where my contribution did not help. 

    Adhd was an added hindrance to a far more detrimental "trauma" that my H experienced. I cannot believe, even now, that I did not see I was trying to have a growing mature, sincere, loving relationship with someone who honestly, through no fault of his, DID NOT KNOW WHAT LOVE MEANS. By stepping back and observing and LISTENING I have learned so much more about him in the past several months. While I shared with him some of it......I have now refused to initiate any further discussion. It causes him to experience pain he cannot bear. He has stated this and says "I am not going there. It serves no purpose". I can see that it is awful for him. How very sad......that he refuses to see how it impacts US. However.....he has just as much "right" to his decisions as I do mine. Our "living of life" slid into HIS way of living life.....THAT is not his fault. I am accepting there is no blame on either of ourselves......but their is accountability and it is not a four letter word. My H can only be accountable at an 18 year old level. I have been trying to have a marriage with a HUGE mental age difference. This IS NOT ADHD.

    There is so much more to "my" story that I won't bore anyone with. What I am saying.....from my POV....is ADHD in an emotionally mature person is NOT the end of the world. Any spouse with adhd that says " it's not that bad" or " I have a handle on it don't worry" or "i will deal with it my way"  or "it's MY problem".......has another issue going on....that is going to interfere with any possible progress for the relationship. Trying to address ADHD when THAT is really not the problem is not going to work. DUH..

    I still interact with my H. I keep the conversation on my half.....calm, upbeat, short sentences and no references to any issues. He does better when he sees less of me......though he won't say that.......ummm maybe it is ....I do better the less I see of him? It is not without effort to disengage from a partner in life after 44 years. I remind myself ....I am worth it.......because I would NEVER hear that from him.......and I am nearing  that place.....that I don't need to. I am really starting to LIKE this "new" way of being/ finding ME again. 

    For anyone thinking I don't "value" marriage vows......think again. God has been with me every step of this journey. While we may all share the same problems/issues.....our spiritual journeys are individual.....between God and you. I do not put God in a box where "one size" fits all. What he "shows" me he may not "show" you. To all who feel the crushing weight of an ADHD/ whatever is going on relationship/marriage........we here do understand......because we have EXPERIENCED it ourselves.....and I will judge no one on their pain....or decisions. This is a "safe" place to express and ask questions. Too many names to mention have given me their patience and strength. A grateful thank you.

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