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  • Helping outsiders understand what non-ADHD spouses experience by: 927red 9 years 10 months ago

    Hi! I'm new to this site. My husband has been recently diagnosed with ADHD. We have been married for 10 years and have one child. Since my husband is in the early stages of treatment, his symptoms are currently under treated and we are in the throes of dysfunction. We love each other and are committed to doing the best we can to make our life happier. We are both in therapy individually as well. I was wondering if anyone had any tips/ideas on how to help those outside the relationship understand or at least accept boundaries I set for myself in order to protect and conserve some of my energy. It seems that when I say no to taking on another project most people can't understand why. They also seem to not understand why I am so exhausted/depleted since I 'just' stay at home and don't work outside the home. I know that people should just respect my decisions and not question my reasons, however the people I'm referring to are my few close friends and his family. I am very much experiencing the 'he's a wonderful guy' and the 'I'm just a nag whose no fun'. I am trying not to nag and change my attitude, but it's not going to happen overnight. I have no one to vent my frustration to and every time I do, I hear how it's not that bad and I should suck it up or they end up putting the blame on me which I'm already getting at home. My husband is a great guy and he's very much wanting to improve our relationship do I am thankful for that, it's just hard when other people don't understand.

  • Another Christmas and birthday goes by without recognition from H! by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 10 months ago

    So another Christmas and birthday with no recognition from my husband. I always tell him I don't want anything for Christmas (because I really don't want THINGS) and I tell him to just take me out for a nice night. He said "Well I plan on doing that for your birthday, which is the day after Christmas, but what do you want for Christmas?" He says it's not fair that he told me what he wanted but I wont' tell him. finally I sit down and I come up with some things for him. All experiences, like concerts, plays, spa gift card, night at a nice resort and I show him the list. He looks at the list and goes 'Well I would be really uncomfortable at a country concert" I was like fine then forget that. There were several other things on the list. Well Christmas morning I get up and say Merry Christmas and he says the same back to me and then says "You don't have anything to open". I say "Well you do" He goes "At least I have someone who loves me". Well I got him a $200 heater for the garage that he wanted and $75 slippers. He tells me "Well we'll go out for a nice dinner this weekend." Yes, like you said for my BIRTHDAY! This is Christmas! You know what? If you had just accepted that I didn't want anything that would have been fine, but you INSISTED that I come up with something. Then you look it over and think that there's nothing on there you really want to do with me so you get me nothing! Do you know how that makes me feel? Especially when you tell me "Oh my mom, sister and stepmom got my gift baskets on time". Really?! Three people who you complain about all the time and never talk to and yet you get them gifts and you spend an extra $10 per basket to make sure they get there on time! I didn't want to spend $200 on a heater that I knew you'd barely use, but yet I got that for you. But you can't take a few hours out of a night and go to a concert with me? I went to a Metallica concert with you and was WAY out of my comfort zone! I go to your race days and am bored out of my mind but you get upset if I don't go. I dealt with your mom staying with us for a week who drove us up a wall. I just allowed you to keep 5 kittens from your mom when we only agreed to 2. And still you can't get me even a small thing??! Not even a spa gift card?

    Oh and this was great too. I tell him Christmas morning that I want to go to this one bar tomorrow night. He goes "Oh is there a reason you want to go there?" Yes moron, it's my BIRTHDAY! It's like every year he tries to make my birthday the most miserable day of the year. I've always hated my birthday being the day after Christmas. I never had a party and it never really felt like a birthday. Now I've got him not even saying Happy Birthday to me or treating me special. By the way he didn't even tell me happy birthday until 11PM on my birthday when we returned form the bar and he was drunk! We are sitting on the couch and he is on the laptop and he goes "Oh I am going to get this game on Amazon. It's only $40 compared to $80. Merry Christmas to me!". Just jab that knife in and turn it a bit why don't you! Am I really the least important person on your list? Apparently I'm below yourself!

    Oh and I guess my "nice night out" was going to the bar I wanted to go to last night and buying drinks for anyone who showed up to hang out with us. So he bought me a couple of drinks and a $5 quesadilla at the bar! Oh but he spent $125 at the bar so of course he thinks that's a great present. I didn't ask you to buy everyone drinks! You bought drinks for one guy neither of us even like and didn't ask to come...he was just there.

    Oh and the box with Christmas presents for his daughter still sits on our kitchen table waiting to be sent to her! Hmmm...mom, sister and stepmom = #1 priority. Me and his daughter = lowest priority!

  • delusions of grandeur--someone explain this to me by: dvance 9 years 10 months ago

    Okay, someone HAS to explain this one to me.  In the 20 years I have been with DH, virtually every job he has had he has described in the same way: he is the ONLY one there who knows anything, he is the only one who knows what's going on in the company, thank goodness they hired him because otherwise who knows what would have happened, no one else in the company has any clue...  You get the idea.  And yet, he has been fired twice in the past three years and it took him a solid year to find another job this time.  So how does that compute?  After both times he was fired, he wasn't so much mad about getting fired, he was upset because now the company was going to be in trouble without him and now could they not realize that he was the ONLY one there holding the company together?  HOW does someone actually think that about themselves?  I'm sorry, unless you are some brain surgeon who is truly the only person who can perform some particular procedure, we are all replaceable.  And furthermore, all of the companies he worked for/was fired from were doing fine before they brought him on board and continue to do fine without him (go figure).  This from a person who in our house cannot finish one darn project EVER no matter how many times I ask.  I understand having confidence and knowing you are good at your job--I have been teaching for 13 years and I am a really good teacher-I care  mightily about my students, my families love me, I have a lot of leadership roles in our school, the principal trusts me, BUT if I took a new job next fall, the school would not fall apart.  I am not the only good teacher out there for goodness sake.  So this morning I just about cried--DH started his new job December 15, so not even two weeks in and sure enough, this morning I got the speech about the last guy who did the job and how much he screwed it up so now DH has to go and undo and redo everything he did wrong.  I actually felt my eyes fill up and had to make some excuse and leave the room.  Are you kidding me?!?!?!  NO ONE likes to work for someone who has that "you poor stupid people thank god I've come to fix everything you have been doing wrong" attitude EVEN if it's true and I can assure you it's not or he wouldn't have gotten fired...twice.  What do others think of this?  What is the explanation for this wildly unrealistic view of oneself?  It's really hard to deal with/listen to because all of the REAL ACTUAL evidence suggests it is not the case but in his mind he is the savior of the facilities world and everyone else is just screwed that they cannot see that.  Help!!!

     

     

  • Ritalin, Strattera, and Anxiety by: Mandison 9 years 10 months ago

    Hello!

    Let me start by apologizing for such a long post. This is the first time I've reached out for help on this forum. My husband wants to keep his ADHD a secret, which leaves me with not many places to turn for help, so thank you for any insight.

    My husband has not officially been diagnosed with inattentive ADHD, but he has been trying different treatments for about the last 6 months (with the guidance of a therapist and a doctor). He has anxiety, and the lack of progress in treating the anxiety alone for 2 years led to the consideration of ADHD by his therapist. My husband admitted that he has always felt he has ADHD, especially as a child, and his doctor agreed to give him medication despite not believing him or the therapist. The therapist gave us a few recommendations for medications to ask the doctor about, and told him to avoid stimulants as they tend to make anxiety worse (which is consistent with most things I've read). 

    First the doctor prescribed Wellbutrin. While it seemed to help his anxiety, it did not seem to help his ADHD symptoms. He stopped taking it after 1 month.

    Next the doctor gave him a trial pack of Strattera. Even by the end of the 1 month trial, my husband's ADHD symptoms seemed to be improving. When my husband got a full prescription of the 80mg Strattera, he discovered that the medication was beginning to make him nauseated after taking it some days, even when taking it with food. He also felt that the medication was making him a bit depressed. I'm not sure if he's actually feeling depressed or if it's one of the downsides of having treated ADHD. Before treatment he was always able to bounce back from an argument almost instantaneously (one of the benefits of ADHD, not focusing on it for long), but with treatment it seems to take him longer to get past any hurt or sad feelings.

    He stopped taking the medication after a while and tried to pursue more natural treatments (excercise, diet, fish oil, etc), but he was unable to establish a consistent routine and ended up not really doing any treatment at all. At that point, we agreed that he would go back on the medication just long enough for him to be able to get into a good routine with the natural treatments, and then he could try going off of the Strattera. That never happened. And he stopped going to therapy. So, he kept taking the Strattera, but the nausea was getting worse. Since he was feeling sick on the 80mg dose, he set up an appointment with his doctor to ask if he could try a lower dose in hopes that the nausea would go away.

    Instead of seeing his doctor, he ended up seeing her nurse practitioner. She decided that the nausea was a sign of an allergy (my medical background leads me to disagree), and told him he needs to try a stimulant. She prescribed him Ritalin. He hasn't started it yet, but I'm very nervous about what it could do to his anxiety. In addition, I'm not sure that a stimulant is the best choice because work is the one area of his life on which his ADHD has NOT had a negative impact. Therefore he would not need the medication during the day, but he would need it in the evening, thus running the risk of interfering with his sleep.

    So, if you made it through that long background story, here are my questions:

    Do any of you have experience with Strattera and nausea? If so, did a lower dose help?

    Any experience with Ritalin and comorbid anxiety?

    FYI, I have been requesting that my husband find a new doctor with more experience in the area of ADHD (and that actually listens to him and prescribes the correct dosages), but we also struggle with a parent/child dynamic, so I'm trying to let him handle it without getting overly involved. He doesn't seem to think this doctor is that big of a problem.

  • A Christmas Message by: Standing 9 years 10 months ago

    For everyone here...  I feel that I don't have much to say at this forum any more, since my spouse's issue, as has been diagnosed, is not really add, but actually a personality disorder.

    In all honesty, I suspect that is the case with many of the "add" folks being discussed here, and I have so much empathy for you all! 

    My own course of action was to release all control over the situation, since that control was only an illusion, at best. I stepped away from the madness and filed for legal separation.

    Rather than taking this as a signal to move forward into healing, my spouse has chosen to escalate the separation into divorce. In actuality, nothing has changed at the heart level, other than now he is making official what has always been the case: he only had use for me as long as I had no voice, no identity of my own.

    By the grace of God, I am learning how to be more healthy myself and to find fulfillment apart from marriage, or "doing". Now it is about learning how to "be". Myself.

    Anyhow, there's a free app available for phones, with Melody Beatty's daily meditations from her book The Language of Letting Go.  I absolutely love this little app and the daily message has helped me so much. Not sure which phones can get it, but iphones, for sure. Here is today's installment, along with hopes and prayers that we all will find great peace and new joy.

     

    Sometimes, the holidays are filled with the joy we associate with that time of year. The season flows. Magic is in the air.

    Sometimes, the holidays can be difficult and lonely.

    Here are some ideas I’ve learned through personal experience, and practice, to help us get through difficult holidays

    Deal with feelings, but try not to dwell unduly on them. Put the holidays in perspective: A holiday is one day out of 365. We can get through any 24-hour period.

    Get through the day, but be aware that there may be a post-holiday backlash. Sometimes, if we use our survival behaviors to get through the day, the feelings will catch up to us the next day. Deal with them too. Get back on track as quickly as possible.

    Find and cherish the love that’s available, even if it’s not exactly what we want. Is there someone we can give love to and receive love from? Recovering friends? Is there a family who would enjoy sharing their holiday with us? Don’t be a martyr; go. There may be those who would appreciate our offer to share our day with them.

    We are not in the minority if we find ourselves experiencing a less-than-ideal holiday. How easy, but untrue, to tell ourselves the rest of the world is experiencing the perfect holiday, and we’re alone in conflict.

    We can create our own holiday agenda. Buy yourself a present. Find someone to whom you can give. Unleash your loving, nurturing self and give in to the holiday spirit.

    Maybe past holidays haven’t been terrific. Maybe this year wasn’t terrific. But next year can be better, and the next a little better. Work toward a better life—one that meets your needs. Before long, you’ll have it.

    God, help me enjoy and cherish this holiday. If my situation is less than ideal, help me take what’s good and let go of the rest.

     

    Quoted from the book Language of Letting Go by Melody Beattie.

  • We agree and accept he has ADHD. Now what? by: ally012 9 years 10 months ago

    My husband and I have been married for 6 years.  He adopted my 2 kids in 2011.  Like most couples we have had our ups and downs.  Both of us were married previously.  I have 2 kids, he has 1.  Our individual history is very complicated and confusing.  But, basically, I have been in therapy for almost 2 years.  I am working through Complex PTSD, Dissociative Depersonalization Disorder & Major Depression.  My first marriage lasted for 11 years and was abusive.  My kids do remember some of the abuse; they are 13 & 15 today.  My current husband has been supportive to the best of his ability.

    My husband's first marriage was also abusive (his wife towards him verbally) and ended in a very bad divorce when his son was 2.   Up until August 2014, his ex-wife had physical custody of his son & we had weekend visitations with some holidays.  The son was used as a pawn to control whatever she wanted; visitation, pick-ups, drop-offs, etc.  She tormented my husband and my husband carries an enormous amount of guilt for not being able to be with his son as a father should.

     During our marriage (myself and current husband) we have always struggled with different views on discipline, decision-making and overall parenting.  We are one of those many couples who failed to discuss parenting BEFORE we married.  Over the years, my husband felt like the "family" was not a "family" unless his son was with us.  This meant we did not see a movie unless it was his weekend for his son to visit; we did not eat at the dinner table unless his son was with us, etc.  It began to feel like our lives were on hold; completely dependent on if his son was with us or not and that depended on if my husband's ex-wife would allow his son to visit.

    My kids left the home about 2 months ago. There was an event that set this into motion, but it was not the root cause of our current situation. 

    Why did I decide to go?  Several reasons:  1.  unequal treatment (especially discipline) between the step-son and my 2 kids; my 2 "lived with us and knew better, the step-son did not".  There were excuses or exceptions provided as to why one child would not get in trouble and the others would. 

    2.  Lots of yelling, name calling, accusing and demanding by both my husband and step-son toward each other and us.  Typically, things were someone else's fault according to my husband as well as my step-son. 

    3. Neither my husband nor step-son took responsibility for their actions.  They were more like "bullies" than family members. 

     

    Today, my husband and step-son both have been evaluated by a psychiatrist; my husband ADHD & depression, step-son-severe anxiety or maybe low end Bipolar.   Each has started medication to help.  I am not sure if either is participating in individual therapy, although I think my husband will be soon.  We have begun Family Therapy (only me, my husband and my 2 kids; therapist suggests to wait to add in my step-son).

      Obviously, the idea of Family Therapy is to get the family back together.  We have major roadblocks and I am seeking advice, help, prayers, anything. 

    I don't know why, but I have begun to have major panic attacks around my step-son, around my husband and even when talking about them.  Therefore, I can't return to the family home until I am able to resolve this.

     

    My 13 yr daughter is fearful of verbal abuse and fearful of my step-son's intimidation.  She does not feel safe unless she is physically next to me.  She is suffering with moderate depression

     

    My 15 yr old son is simply "done".  He says that he has tried and tried and tried; no results, nothing changes.  He is sick of always having to "deal with it" and "not having a choice".  He currently refuses to participate in any family therapy.  He is very angry.  (He still has anger & resentment from his biological father.)

    I understand how to work through my issues as I have been and continue to be in therapy. 

    What I don't know is HOW IN THE WORLD to convince my children to try again.  I believe that my husband is making a very serious effort to admit and address his wrong doings.  He is actively working to change.  I feel like if God is working in his heart,than anything is possible.

    I don't know where my step-son is in this process, but I am told he too is making efforts.

    I will not leave my children (we are staying with my  mom) and I will not force them to go home if they are not ready.  However, there is a reason why my husband acted the way he acted.  He is actively seeking help and learning new ways.  There are now guarantees in life, but how might I be able to soften my children's heart to allow my husband to at least try?  My son won't text, call, see or speak to my husband.  My daughter might respond to a text, but not without talking to me first because she is scared.

    What do families do who have hurt and are too scared of more hurt?  How does a parent convince a child to try again?  How long is to long or what is to short in "waiting"?

     

    Throughout all of this, I have never stopped loving or believing in my husband.  I have always believed God put him in my life.  Maybe, it was the other way around?  Who knows.  Either way, I am desperate to follow God's guidance and do His will.  I just don't know what that is yet. 

  • Rudeness passing onto child? by: Rain1988 9 years 10 months ago

    I know it is common that ADHD individuals are rude. Is a lack of politeness (usage of the magic words please, thank you, and you're welcome, separate from this?
        My soon to be ADHD ex husband has never used the "magic words". For instance, he came over this evening to drop something off for our son.  When I thanked him, he was looking right at me so I know he heard me.  However he completely ignored me.  Yesterday, he got my car unstuck and of course, I got no response whom I express my gratitude.  Not only is this rude and unprofessional, but my son is now doing the same thing. Anyone else experience this?

  • Medication Abuse by: Ontherocks 9 years 10 months ago

    Just wondering if other people have this issue.  My spouse was diagnosed with add as an adolescent and has been on stimulant medication  for many years.  However he does not take it as prescribed.  He regularly takes extra doses, sometimes to get more work done, sometimes due to feelings do depression on top of addiction to the high that comes with abusing stimulants.  To make up for this, he has to skip days. he claims to need days off from his meds in order to relax anyway   Almost every month he runs out of his meds before the refill date, sometimes 5+ days.  We have many issues, and these days are the worst for both of us.  He has amplified adhd symptoms, plus withdrawal, and this on top of other relationship issues leads to angry outbursts, fighting, crying, etc.  we are planning on starting couples therapy and I would like to be able to bring this up, but he is worried that a therapist would contact his doctor, and that his doctor would stop prescribing his meds as a result.  We both agree that this would be a disaster for both our relationship and his career.  Has anyone else dealt with this, personally, or as a family member?

  • Valuing technology over family:( by: ICanSeeClearlyNow 9 years 10 months ago

    This has been scaring me lately and I know it is an ADHD problem, so I'm hoping someone else has dealt with this and found a way to approach their ADHD partner with it gently, but clearly.  Basically, my concern is my husband is sending the message to our children that technology is more important than them.  He eats as quickly as he can to go off to the TV, even while the rest of us are still eating.  He brings his iPad to the table if I ask him to sit through a whole meal and pretty much tunes us out.  It really hit home with me when the following happened tonight:  My 15 month old daughter, who has been walking for a little over a month, but is still wobbly, walked over to our TV stand, must have tripped and banged her chin on the edge of the stand.  This coincided with something on the TV switching off, which I'm pretty sure my daughter didn't do - she didn't touch the TV itself.  My husband, however, got extremely frustrated that the screen had changed.  I was holding my daughter while she cried (she was more shaken up over it than anything - there was no bleeding or bruising) - and all he could do was huff and puff over the few buttons he had to push to get the show back on.   Our 4 year old son observed this whole scene. I made a comment to my husband about this, how our daughter was in pain and he was getting upset over the TV.  He didn't respond to the comment, but I'm hoping it sunk in.  

    I don't know. I just feel like I'm going in circles with this.  Talking to him about the whole leaving the table thing to watch TV, him telling me we eat too slowly, he hates waiting, he's just passing time until we're done, etc., etc.  But really, I feel like his closest relationships are through technology (i.e. the guys he plays online video games with at night, anyone who texts him, etc.).   Am I hurting the children by staying and having them feel second fiddle to a TV, or is it worse to leave and take them away from their dad who can be wonderful with them at times when he tunes into them?  When it was just me and him, I didn't notice this somehow, but it is crystal clear to me with our kids.  Any help, experiences, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated!

  • Looking for Hope? Verbal Abuse, Financial Infidelity, Opposition by: karmalennon 9 years 10 months ago

    I just found this site a few days ago and am alarmed by the number of people whose posts are nearly identical to my situation.

    My husband and I met almost three years ago.  He was wishy washy to begin with, wanting to spend every second together, talk constantly, then make sure (publicly - often humiliating me) I knew I was NOT his girlfriend.  The next day, he'd be begging me to come over for movies and cuddling.  When he decided we actually WERE a couple, I was pregnant the next month, and we were married four months after that.  He was still very attentive then except he refused to work.  He said he was a bad interviewee, the schedules didn't match, he had bad blood with some of the employees there (he had been a social butterfly for many years; read also as a once-heavy-drinker).  There was always some reason he couldn't work.  So I supported us on my wages and I drained my bank account; scary thing with a baby on the way.  But there's that idiotic part of me that thinks real love will provide and struggling isn't so bad as long as we're together.

    His first real shift in personality was the day our son was born.  We used midwives and did a birthing center.  I was understandably exhausted and just needed to lie down.  My husband kept telling me I had to get up and move.  He was instructing me, but not making me do it.  The midwife shows up and forced me up, made me walk, made me sway.  He still harbors resentment that "you listened to HER during labor, but wouldn't listen to ME!"  He did virtually nothing to care for our son.  He worked a part-time retail job then and, because he got up at 4 am, I did all of the night watching of the baby as well as the day watching.  A few months after baby was home, I was arguing with him about how he would come in from work, claiming total exhaustion, and take a three hour nap in the floor. I was expected to make dinner while he napped, too.  I literally went the first three months of my son's life with zero help and about two hours of sleep every night.  When I was telling him I needed help and he just "didn't understand," I became really angry, yelled at him, called him lazy, and he told me to "stop being a f***ing c***!"  Yeah, that's what every new mother wants to be called by her husband - the "C" word.  

    I developed crazy depression and sought medication that reacted with me and aggravated my existing anxiety disorder (yes, I have a panic disorder and chronic depression).  He lost his job because he had to stay home with us while I detoxed from the meds.  That was seven months ago.  He refuses to return to work.  He makes me work instead, even though I can't even drive myself.  I hitch rides with people to get to my job (about an hour from our home), and I'm still expected to take over baby duty as soon as I come in after work, I have to make dinner, I do the dishes, the laundry, the cleaning - EVERYTHING.  We've been in a terrible financial shape because my wages didn't even meet the mortgage payment.  We recently sold this house and my husband refuses to give me access to ANY of the money.  He owes me $10,000 from me draining my savings (that was money I earned over a 14 year period in anticipation of paying off student loans).  He has given me $5,000 of it and says he won't give me the rest.  He also won't give my mother (who paid many of our bills the last six months) any of the money she lent us.  Instead, he spent $16,000 on HIMSELF last week alone.  Without talking to me.  The house we sold was given to him by his father when he passed, so my husband says, "my house, my money."  But I thought he'd at least give me what he took from me.  He promised to pay me back.

    Now, we fight about the money constantly, and he tells me I'm not trustworthy, I need to prove myself, he thinks I'm going to screw him over, he thinks I'm going to leave him and take his money.  He will fight with me about anything (he yelled at me until I was crying on the floor one day...about a MAGNET).  I told him one day, crying, how I felt suicidal and he followed me around the house making fake crying noises and an "ugly crying face" at me.  I've never been so miserable in all of my life.

    I hold in there because I know how he used to be.  And knowing he has ADHD (take Adderal) and depression (takes Prozac and Welbutrin) allows me to give him more benefit of the doubt than if he didn't have any disorders.  But when is enough enough?  When do we stop saying ADHD is a factor and say, "you're an abusive jerk"?  He's only gotten worse on the meds.  If he goes a period without them, he has even angrier, more violent outbursts.  He's never been physically violent with my son or me, but I'm afraid it's heading that direction.  And now he knows I have NO money, no savings anymore, a job I can't get to if he doesn't drive me, and he controls ALL of the funds.  He still says he can't get a job and I have to keep working.  How am I supposed to deal with my anxiety if I can't have time to recuperate?  How does he not understand the pain and suffering he brings me?  But I'm always nagging, I'm always a bitch (his mom tells me, too), and I'm never pulling my weight.  Guess me taking absolute care of him for the last two to three years, bearing his son, and being the sole breadwinner is what makes me "a f***ing c***."  Right?

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