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  • A Sad Realization by: kellyj 10 years 6 months ago

    It's disheartening when you look at the truth sometimes and today was one of those days.  I've had a great deal of success with my ADHD symptoms and as far as my spouse tells me........things have improved for her as well.  The realization that is probably the hardest to look at but yet is the undeniable truth is that the things that cause her the most grief about being in a relationship with are a my ADHD symptoms.  No surprise here for anybody.

    As I've said.....I have come long way in minimizing the impact these things have on her and some of these things I have under control very well and she reports that this is true.  Those were apparently the easy ones for me.  The other ones and specifically one or two are the ones that I can see are going to be problematic perhaps for the rest of my life.

    The problems we're dealing with are not due to my lack of effort or denial but for the simple fact that certain aspects of my ADHD  just simply drive her crazy and hit up against her own issues.  I can see what these things are and I intend to keep at it but.....her frustration and anger surrounding these things are not likely to go away even when I can tell she is trying very hard not to let them show.  My sadness comes knowing that I will someday need to let her go.....not tell her to leave but to tell her that she deserves to be happy knowing that her choice to stay might keep her from having a happier life without me/  I say this with every intention that a day will come when I might be able to manage all my ADHD issues well enough that she can begin to look past them enough where they will not bother her any more.

    There is nothing causing me to say this in the short term....but I have been here before.....enough to see the signs.  On one hand I do not want to create a self fulfilling prophecy by thinking this way.....on the other hand, I want to be realistic and not drag anyone along with me if I can't get to a place where we can both live in harmony.

    Right now things are pretty good.....some good days and some not so good.  Todays not as good as some. Such is life.  The ADHD thing is the one thing that I fear will be the thing that I will never be able to master to the degree I have in other areas of my life and I could never make that promise to her.  This is the realization....that I can't say these things will ever get to the place that she won't finally get to her place that I see so many of the spouse here on this sight are at right now.  I would never wish this upon anyone and I have told her that I don't expect her to stay if she can't tolerate my ADHD from the beginning of our relationship.  I made a reference in a recent post that I think 80% ( consistency ) is my goal and a realistic one for me to achieve.

    But part of this realization thinks that even that might not be good enough.

    Until then......I'm still going to try.  That's why I am here.

  • ADHD problem? Husband starts tickling me aggressively and won't stop! by: Anonymous (not verified) 10 years 6 months ago

    My husband will sometimes playfully tickle me but sometimes does it very aggressively to the point where it's super uncomfortable and I can't breath.  I can't get away from him and have to use all my strength to roll off the couch onto the floor and crawl away trying to get away from him. He seems to think it's a game and how I love it and he continues to do it to the point where I have to scream at the top of my lungs to let me go. Sometimes I just scream "911" which makes him immediately release his grip on me and goes "Shhh! Was that really necessary?" YES! Stop means stop! He does the same thing to his daughter (my stepdaughter) who is 16. Grabs her feet and tickles them to the point of uncomfortable and won't let go or holds her down and tickles her stomach and she does the same thing as me--has to scream at the top of her lungs before he will stop. Then HE gets angry at US because we are upset and being so serious when he was just having fun!

    What is going on in his mind that he can't see we are NOT having fun?!

  • unsure by: twiggybobo 10 years 6 months ago
    Hiya, my boyfriend has got adhd/add, I dont know what to do, I have a 9 month baby with him and I've got a 3 year old I've been going out with on and off for 2 years, He brakes promisess and lies to me I dont see him for days at A time and he wont tell me where hes gone cos he wont tell me And he will lie to me when he appears about where he has gone He say he didn't want to do it he just does it and doesnt kno why He gets obsessive with things and you can't stop him When hes nice he is nice and kind and caring but if he is in one Of his moods he is horrible he doesnt care about anyone anything, We have arguments and I say your not bothered come and see the kids he Says did I say that then he says he id to scared to come Thankyou
  • Need Help- Pregnant with ADD husband by: amlee87 10 years 6 months ago

    I don't know what to do anymore. My husband and I have had multiple issues with his ADD in the past. I have dealt with it, accepted it, been a slave to it, worked with it and around it and accommodated for it and everything in between. I have been above and beyond patient with this. He is RARELY patient and understanding with me and how his behavior affects me. To his credit, we have had occasional breakthroughs here and there where he finally admits to how he can see that his behavior makes me feel unimportant and he does apologize for it, and that's all I really want. However, most of the time if I do express my frustration, he blames it on me- I'm too emotional, I'm too sensitive, I'm too needy. He adopts this defensive, impulsive, angry and verbally aggressive stance which makes it impossible to talk to him, and he immediately becomes the louder and more forceful person... so he wins? (or so he thinks??). I am not nearly as pushy/loud/forceful of a person as he is. He has learned that if he shuts me down hard and fast that it will all go away.

    Aside from this ADD demon popping up to cause issues on occasion, we are actually very much happy and in love with each other.

    Well, now I'm pregnant and we are both thrilled, but somehow this has actually caused a MAJOR ADD flare up and I am NOT ok with it this time around. This is our first baby, and I'm 18 weeks at this point-- almost halfway through this pregnancy. We have been redoing our entire backyard, which is a project we started before I found out I was pregnant (which was unexpected, by the way!). It has taken so long because we are doing it ourselves. He has completely honed in on this project like you wouldn't believe- to the point of obsession- and is completely neglecting other things, including THIS PREGNANCY. I feel like he isn't nearly as interested in it as my freaking coworkers are! He's not reading up on anything about pregnancy or newborns, not researching anything about classes or equipment we should buy, not expressing much excitement or asking me how I'm feeling, or if I felt the baby move more today, etc. I'm doing all the reading and research, planning classes, etc. I try to talk to him about things that I'm reading and I can't hold his attention (naturally). I tell him a quick thing about the baby like "hey, I'm 18 weeks now so this book says the baby is the size of a bell pepper!" and his answer is usually a flat, distracted one liner- "cool." He doesn't seem to try to touch my belly to see if he can feel movement. If we're laying down in bed to go to sleep and I feel something, I say "hey put your hand here you might feel something!" and he'll like slowly roll over like I'm totally burdening him, place his hand on my belly for a fleeting second and be like "nah, don't feel anything," or he won't touch my belly at all and he'll complain that it's time for bed and he needs to go to sleep, and why don't I let him go to bed?!! What the hell?!!!

    This behavior has made me feel like he doesn't care about this pregnancy, or me which I know is not true. When I brought this up to him and how I think he should take a break from the backyard for a bit so we can do something fun one afternoon, he barked at me that it had to get done. It dawned on me that I think he's actually freaking out because of this impending due date and he just wants everything done before the baby... but when I told him I understood his desire to get it all done, but why doesn't he talk about the baby to me, he yells at me! First the problem was that I brought it up at a bad time and he wanted to go to bed. Then the problem was that I was too needy. Then his complaint was that he's just not expressive and doesn't need to tell me when he's excited about things. He basically said that my expectations are ridiculous, of course he's excited and why does he need to talk about it with me.

    When someone else asks him how we're doing or if he's excited, he practically glows and talks to them about his thoughts and feelings on things at length! When I talk to him, his brain is on the backyard and I'm on the back burner. I have NOBODY else out here to share this experience with. My whole family is across the country. I have a few close friends out here that I like to talk to about things, but I want to experience this excitement with HIM above everyone else, but he's just not interested! I can't tell if it's the ADD issue- the backyard is literally taking ALL of his focus... or if he's just freaking out, or what? Either way, I am at the end of the rope here. Then I start freaking out and thinking about how ADD will affect his parenting abilities. I slipped on the bottom stair and fell the other day (didn't get hurt but it was loud enough and I kind of yelled out in shock when I hit the floor. My dog immediately bolted across the house and came to my side to see if I was ok. MY HUSBAND DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE. Didn't hear me, didn't notice our dog bolting through the house to get to me. Naturally I got upset because it makes me think about how an infant can get hurt if you take your eyes off of them for half a second, and he can't pay attention without getting distracted!! And he doesn't notice things like his pregnant wife hitting the floor! And I wonder about things like what if the baby gets hurt or cries or tries to get his attention and he doesn't notice, and I'm not around to help?! I don't know what to think anymore and the more I think about this, the more it scares me to leave the baby alone with him. He insists that his ADD won't be a problem, but he has yet to prove to me that he can react quickly to something that SHOULD pull his attention away from a magazine/book/etc.

    Does anyone have any advice or thoughts to share on this, I could really use some reassurance. I know plenty of you out there ARE raising children with this issue in your household. Please help :-(

     

     

     

  • Attention: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves by: kellyj 10 years 6 months ago

    I think this statement qualifies as flawed thinking.  I've discovered some of my own since I stumbled on this forum which I'm seeing as one more step forward in attempting to find the things about myself that are affected by my ADHD and the parts that are not.  So far.......the ones that are appear to be on par with the ones that are but..... I did come to a few new realizations in both areas of my personality and behavior which I attribute directly from the content I've read here. ( writing comments has also really been useful to hear myself since I am able to go back and read what I said afterwards ).  I also I think this sight is a great source for information and support that I'm thankful to have found.

    Anyway.....I wanted to share a couple of discoveries that I have made here and once again,  when I thought I new everything there was to know about my ADHD.....I find something new that I hadn't seen before. ( ouch )   Actually it's just more insight but that means I have more work to do.  Sometimes it feels like trying to sweep the ocean back into the sea with a broom. lol

    There are so many speculations made about the ADHD spouses by their partner's, I thought it would be fair to include a few of my own into the mix seeing how I have ADHD....and all.  I chose to include this in the anger and frustration section here on the forum since in my opinion......is the source for both in my relationships in the past up to this day.  From my side.....I could have easily put this under progress and growth but my experience with all of this tells me that it is just another step in a life long process and in an effort to stay vigilant....I don't want to consider this as a victory quite yet.  I also want to help give the non-ADHD spouses another perspective by someone who has it in their own words instead of trying to apply the usual general information and descriptions that everyone can get from books or data on the web.

    Here goes........

    To picture what it is like to have the (hyperactive type) ADHD....picture a fusion reactor that lives inside you.  A thoroubred race horse is another good description.  It has the potential to do amazing things once you learn how to harness its power and direct it to serve you in anything you do in your life.  But there is a problem......this energy goes online the second you wake up every day and there is no stopping this process or the ability to shut it off....and it only has one speed.....full throttle!  All you have control of is where and how to direct it and if you don't......you have a wild race horse in a tiny corral, and all it wants to do is get out and run.  If it can do this, it is happy and free to do the thing it was meant to do and that is......run as fast and as hard as possible all the time.

    Another metaphor for the problem with this would be.....trying to take a Top Fuel Dragster and run it on the street in city traffic.  By design it was built to do one thing and one thing only........go as fast as possible in one direction going in a straight line for short intervals of time....... and it does this better than any other motor vehicle on the planet without comparison.  However... it is also the worst choice of any other motor vehicle you could pick if you need to drive in stop and go traffic, navigate curves or travel long distances continuously. 

    Going back the race horse refference........it's a "one trick pony."

    This is what it feels like for me every day of my life........ and put me on a race track with lots of unfettered open space in front of me and there is no stopping what I can do as long as I take short intervals of time to rest and recover in between races.  I can do this all day every day as long as I find a race track to run on and have the ability to segment my day up into time segments to run with systematic rest periods in between.

    If I don't get this opportunity for any number of reasons out of circumstance or imposed on me by other people....that is where all of the problems associated with being this way start to manifest themselves including....the anger and frustration on both side.  Frustration on my side if I'm not let out of my corral to run......anger on the other side when they don't want a race horse and need a quiet trail horse to slowly and consistently move down a predetermined trail of their choosing.  It's pretty easy to to see if you apply this metaphor to ADHD.

    In reality....the race horse analogy is an illusion.  I don't think of myself as a race horse and I only used it here to illustrate a point and that being......this phenomena that is being labeled as ADHD in some of us.....is an inherent drive to do something and without the awareness of it....it can manifest itself in a variety of ways many of which......are unbeknownst to the person who has it.  That's the illusion to us.....simply not being able to recognize the influence that it potentially has on our behavior.

    So what is not illusion or not ADHD?

    Thinking.........  ADHD does not cause thinking.  The processing of information may be different and the inability to recognize it's influence on our behavior that might result in unconscious actions and behaviors only because we don't have the awareness to control it, yes......but

    .It does not cause thinking.......... or beliefs in thinking, or distortions in thinking, or extreme convictions.........delusions, hallucinations, stupidity, socially unacceptable behavior or criminal thinking.  I firmly believe that these all come from somewhere else and are learned not inherited.  Even taking into consideration that these things I mentioned could be attributed to some other disorder or inherent chemical imbalance in the brain......I don't believe that ADHD causes them.  I'm speaking purely anecdotally based on myself.

    What things are ADHD then besides having a fusion reactor burning inside? 

    I process information in entirety all at once.  I see the forest first....then the trees.  I learn and problem solve starting from the solution and working backwards to find the path to get there and then work forward back to the problem.  I have to have context to do this.  I have to see all the parts laid out in front of me and then assemble them together like doing a jigsaw puzzle.  I see patterns and relationship between patterns well because of this.

    When I communicate I usually start by talking about the forest and then the trees.  I see that most other people talk about the trees first and then the forest.  This is where communication can get confusing however......I can see the trees too.  I find that in communications with others sometimes they can see the trees but not the forest....this makes communication very difficult at times especially when you have to explain to people what the forest looks like when they can't see it and can only see trees.  The devil is in the details is all I have to say to that.

    These things are inherent ways that I process information that have nothing to do with thinking in itself but.....it is the path to how I get to thinking which I've learned arrives at a completely different understanding at times compared to others who don't process in this way.  That much I know is true.

    And to the degree that I was not aware of my ADHD and theerfore....not having control of it.......my thinking was very much influenced by it followed by behaviors and actions.  Once I was aware of it and I gained some control of it.........my thinking changed and so did my actions...........in that order.  The fact that my thinking changed in this scenario seems to indicate what I am saying is accurate.

    When it comes to being in a relationship with other people....not being aware of my ADHD caused my thinking to be hijacked by the unawareness itself and.....my actions and behavior followed hijacking them along with it.

    But the source and the reasons behind all of this is the fusion reactor inside me that only has one speed......full throttle.  Once you have awareness of it you can learn to put it to good use by controlling how to use it instead of it controlling you.  That's why ADHD is not a life sentence with no hope of change.

    The distraction comes when the reactor is burning away and wanting to get plugged into something where it can flow freely. At times when this happens.....my brain is constantly looking for something to plug into so that I can get "into flow".  When I do this.....look out.  I'm unbeatable at nearly anything I set my mind to.....within the realms or limitations of my other inherent abilities of course.  Each person is different in regards to that.

    The other problems that I see within myself as far as behavioral issues and flawed thinking outside of my ability to control the fusion reactor come from delusion.

    The definition of delusion is:  A strong conviction contrary to invalidating evidence of fact.  That's where thinking comes in. 

    Here's an example of what I am talking about that I experienced when I got married to y first wife when I was in my twenties.  I hardly can call this a marriage because of it's dysfunction and length of time but, by all definitions I was married.

    The planning for our wedding day should have told me that something was not right from the very beginning but.....hindsight is 20/20.

    Between my future bride, my mother, my sisters, her sisters and her mother......the entire process leading up to and including my wedding day was like being transported into some fucked up reality cartoon  that had absolutely nothing to do with me or for that matter, Us together as a couple.  They could have made a life size cardboard photograph of me in a tux and placed it up at the alter in the church, and I could have gone down to the local bar and had a drink and told them to call me when the ceremony was over to meet them later for the reception and no one would have known the difference.

    The fantasy story that each woman carried in their own head alone ......and then trying to combine these stories into one cohesive story was the most amazingly impossible and ridiculous thing I had ever witnessed based on their own idea of what the ideal wedding should look like.......and, I had literally had no input or opinion one way or another.  The process took on a life of it's own and became a runaway freight train hijacked by the delusions of every woman involved....none of which, was base on any semblance of reality.

    to be continued.........

     

     

  • Showing appropriate emotions by: dedelight4 10 years 6 months ago

    Another question for all of you. Do those of you with ADHD spouses/ boy/girl/friends notice a difficulty in their ability to express the proper emotion with the correlating words/actions? and do they understand what they are doing with this? My ADHD husband does not show many emotions that I "normally" display with ease, but since he won't discuss it with me, I don't know what to think. Anyway, when your significant other says they "love and appreciate you", is it said with the correlating facial expressions or bodily gestures that typically go with it? My DH has ALWAYS had trouble expressing "love" emotions. Doesn't say, "I love you", "no hugs", "no kisses", and often times, would pull away when I would go to hug and kiss him. We've all talked about the "touching" aspects, and how they recoil from certain touches. But what about the facial and verbal tone of voice expressions of love, sadness, joy, tenderness, playfulness (without being silly), etc? I'd appreciate any input on this.

  • Respect for spouse with ADHD by: PositiveJ 10 years 6 months ago

    I am losing respect for my spouse with ADHD. We've been married for over 8 years. He uses ignorant language like calling people or situations "Retarded" and says the F word like it is part of regular speech. It's embarassing to me even if no one is in the room but us- and I cringe when I hear him talk like this. I don't remember him talking like this when we were first together- its like it slowly came out as the years went on. Now that we have an young son, I am especially sensitive to what he says as I don't want my son to think talking like this is ok. I told him last might that this really bothers me and makes me lose respect for him. He seemed to hear me but then just sort of shut down after saying it's how he's talked his whole life and that I don't seem to like anything about him these days.

    Is it better to be honest and tell someone you are losing respect for them? I can't help but feel like I probably made him feel like a loser but it is truly killing my respect for him.

  • sorry by: defeated UK 10 years 6 months ago

    I posted for the first time here 6 days ago. Sorry I didn't get back to the couple of people who posted back but had a chest infection and been laid up. One reply was from someone in a relationship experiencing life with an ADHD partner,not yet with a legal commitment (i.e. marriage) and as yet no children...right or wrong my advice would be to get out now. Time and certainly children will not make things better,just a whole lot worse. There will be more emotions that you see he cannot tune into to your satisfaction, if you are willing to sacrifice your life and happiness to stay with him just go in with your eyes open.

    As I mentioned I've been quite ill and in bed. My husband was annoyed that the Dr didn't prescribe and "fix" me. The Dr said I needed rest,plenty to drink and regular paracetamol etc.On Saturday my husband stayed in bed until 10.00,as he is often on the internet until the early hours. I had been coughing and feeling awful and dragged myself downstairs to get a drink. Eventually he got up and was straight to the computer..around 2pm I shouted for him..no answer,I had my mobile so I called his number..he answered straight away..I asked for a drink and did get one..when I did the same at 7pm he took longer to reply but was annoyed that the Dr had not "given me anything" and wanted to take me to the Emergency room...I pointed out what the Dr had said and that what I needed was a little T.L.C. to help me get better..in short he didn't want to put any effort in himself he just wanted to get me fixed. It's exhausting always having to spell out what I need,then sometimes still being ignored. The love I did have is slowly being crushed out of me and I feel I need to look out for myself.

    He always goes back to USA in the summer for 8 weeks,I used to miss him and feel so lonely,now I look forward to it and hope he finds something to keep him over there. Strangely when over in the States he will phone every day..but  this is after 5pm his time it is late in the UK. I've told him not to as it disturbs my sleep but he takes no notice,he's full of what he's done and never asks about me (even when 2 yrs ago I had a breast lump and had been to the hospital for a mamogram..that day he didn't phone!! and never asked how I'd got on).I feel more and more that separation is the best future for me. Better to be truly on my own than on my own in a relationship...well that isn't a relationship anyway. Just need to know how to start as he will definitely stick  his head in the sand..he did that with his first wife. I'm resisting contacting her for advice.

  • What is it with leaving drawers and cabinets open??!!! by: Anonymous (not verified) 10 years 6 months ago

    This drives me nuts! He is the cook in the house so I leave him be in the kitchen to make dinner and I am the clean up crew. I walk in the kitchen after he's cooked and the silverware drawer is open along with the cabinet where he got the dishes out. In the bedroom when he takes a pair of socks out of the drawer he doesn't close it.  What is it in their brain that makes it so hard to close a drawer after you open it?

  • I have to "be nice" but he doesn't? by: LyraHeartstrings 10 years 6 months ago

    We have been talking about stuff and it seems to me that he wants me to stop being hurt and angry and be all nice to him, watch my tone, tippytoe around him etc. but he has not tried changing anything for me. He's still ignoring me when I talk to him, still emotionally shutting me out, still accusing me and flipping out at the slightest thing. I don't know why the burden of change is squarely on my shoulders as if my changing will suddenly make him change. He refuses to read any ADHD books because he says he wants to "go to the experts" which I guess are high priced psychologists/psychiatrists. He doesn't trust anyone and finds zero value in reading other people's experiences. He just sees us all as "whining" about our lives without doing anything about the problems, or complaining about the ADHD person. He does not see how he can learn anything or discover coping strategies or heck, even maybe get some insight into why I'm acting the way I am. Why I feel so hurt and ignored and stomped on. He does not seem to care at all. He says he does but there is no effort made to actually do anything. he says he's waiting to see a doctor and get medication and I "can't expect" anything from him until he gets on meds. So it feels like he's now using ADHD as an excuse to continue this way and attack me when I react to things he's doing. He does not see himself as the CATALYST for most of the problems. I am reacting to HIM, and he sees it as me being the problem! He sees it as he is reacting to me being there, making him actually do things when he wants to sit and read and play games. My entire existence has become a scapegoat for his inability. How many times has he said he can't do something because of me? I can't count anymore. He didn't get this done because of me, he couldn't do that because of me, his life was fine before I came along and so on. He was never late on a bill til I showed up (because his dad paid them all for him?) and so on.

    I'm this whipping girl and I'm tired of trying to PLACATE him all the time. I was even very civil to him this morning and again he lashed out at me. He is so sensitive it's like you can't look at him without him saying you're "going after him." He also doesn't even recognize that he's tweaking out over little things. He doesn't see his facial expressions and body language or hear his own voice. He's always agitated, angry, frustrated, ready to lash out. But it's MY fault or anyone around him.

    Is it not supposed to be expected to control himself and his emotions at all with this disease? What's the ADHD and what is just him being a jerk?

    Why am I the only one who "controls" him and who has to change to see him change? Why am I to blame for everything?

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