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  • The fight AFTER the fight by: pjkim2010vt@gma... 10 years 6 months ago

    Hi. I'm new to this forum but I'm glad I found it. 

    My boyfriend and I have been together for nearly 2 years and he is the absolute love of my life and the man I will marry and have a family with. We've overcome many obstacles with his ADHD and are still learning to work things out. However, there are a few things that have consistently been a struggle. I'm hoping you all can enlighten me with some other strategies.

    We disagree, argue and fight, as any couple does. We've talked about how sometimes afterwards, we may or may not need our space and should be respectful of that. Even though we talk about it, it's always a struggle. Several times, after I am emotionally worked up, he will throw in "I'm sorry" with the expectation of "I said sorry so everything is fine now." He'll then come to me right after and expect hugs and kisses and if I can't give them to him the way he likes it, then he gets angry with me saying that I hold a grudge/need to get over it/"I said sorry". This all takes place about 30 seconds after 1hr of arguing and a 2 second apology. If I tell him that I need some time, he gets offended. After I've let my emotions come back down to normal range and I try to talk about something else & move on, he's unresponsive or gives me the cold shoulder or an attitude. When I ask him why he's doing that, he says "well you're mad at me"...

    How do I react to that? When I tell him I'm not mad, I just needed some space, he'll throw it back and proclaim "well I'm giving it to you" in a resentful way. I've taken my space, I've come back to him, but it just doesn't seem like a very apologetic way to react especially considering his emphasis on the fact he said "sorry". He doesn't ACT like he's sorry, despite him saying the words, and the tension starts rising again...

    How can I avoid the fight after a fight? 

  • Jumping and Not Looking Back by: kellyj 10 years 6 months ago

    I've hesitated from writing my success with managing my ADHD because I could tell that there was something that I was missing and I was right....and today i finally figured out what it was.

    Quick synopsis:  My mother, who had been suffering from Alzheimer disease for almost 10 years recently passed away at age 89.  For her sake I was very relieved as the person that I knew had been gone for years.  The last real conversation I had  with her ( as it was )  was over 5 years ago so all the grieving that I needed to do was done long ago.  What came from her passing and the experience that I had with my entire family being together in one room again was short of a miracle for me in that I had one last chance to see my family together (my sisters) to relive the events of our lives growing up together. This time however......the stories all seemed different than I remembered them on my end even though the memories of my sisters accounts departed in many different directions.  I realized that many of the facts in these accounts appeared like they were coming from the wrong family or at least....not the one I grew up in?????  But then it hit me.......I had taken off the rose colored glasses year ago and was now seeing everything for the first time without them even though for my sisters.....theirs were still on and fully intact.  Wow....what an eye opener.

    This lead me to a hunch that possibly the same thing might happen if I back tracked one more time with my new perspective and took one more look at the same ground I had covered countless times before to see I could find anything new......my hunch told me that this was likely to happen.

    And sure enough....it did!!

    Without going over all the bloody details....I arrived at this site thinking that I might find some more clues to my life and my own struggle with having ADHD.  As I've stated in several posts that I was on a mission to discover something setting my eye on the areas of my marriage that needed work specific to my past mistakes by listening to the wives of husbands who have ADHD.  Without realizing it exactly.......I was checking myself or rather....checking off the check list of mistakes I've made to make sure that I was still on target.  What I discovered was not what I thought but exactly what I needed t find

    The analogy:  When I was in my twenties I decided to take up sky diving.  I had always wanted to try it at least once up to the point of free falling solo from as high as I could get.......which I did.......but that's besides the point.  The point....being one aspect of sky diving that most people might not consider, that being.........While on the way climbing up to altitude while sitting in a small plane, the experience is one most people could imagine but especially nervous/excited for the first time and nothing really interesting to report in just that.  When it gets really interesting is when the door inside the plane swings open and there you are.....looking down with nothing in between you and the opening but air.  Every molecule of every fiber in your being is screaming at you that...."this is a really bad idea."  But yet you know from all the rationalizing and training and observation that the chances are slim that you will actually die....even though, there is that chance.  And against your survival instincts screaming at you not to put your legs out that door......you do it anyway and jump.  You take the leap of faith against all odds that you may die if you do.  That's where I am right now....standing in the door looking down at the ground even though I didn't realize this until today.

    All my past experience with having ADHD going back to earliest memories.....the trials and failures.....the things other people have said.....my own assumptions and rationalizations......the delusions and denial......they all have taught me at least one thing and that is........ you are apt to wrong even if you think you are right.  This much I do know for sure.  but because I am so sure of this one thing.......ths thing in itself is the the thing that is screaming at me "not to jump!".

    For all good reasons....I have double checked my parachute and everything else that I needed to......gone back over and over it to make sure that I haven't forgotten anything and it would appear that I haven't......so where's the problem,  what have I missed????

    What I have missed was my wife's bravery.  She was brave enough to be with me even though she knew about my ADHD and any other weakness that I might have and still she chose to be with me.  She stepped up to the door and took the plunge saying....I'll see you at the bottom....I love you....and yippeee...off she went.  She took the leap of faith and now here I am being held back by my past which is screaming at me not to jump again....remember last time....and the time before that....and the time before that?????  You know what happened then......don't do it!!!

    But.....as I was when I jumped out of the plane......I knew there was no guarantee that I wouldn't' die and yet I did it anyway.  I've never been afraid of dying or much else for that matter.  I've prided myself of that in so many cases....but the fear of the past happening again despite everything that I have done to make sure it doesn't is still there keeping me from following my wife down the same path together as I said I would.  It's this fear that was the one I haven' been able to find until now and I'll be God Damned if I let this one be the reason for my marriage to fail this time. 

    There is a chance that my marriage will not survive.....I have faced this fear and have overcome it long before I met my present wife as well as being upfront with her from the very beginning.  Her choice to be with me and the bravery she has shown me in the face of this deserves nothing but the same from me from my end and all I need to do now is to step through the door and let go.  I just had to see it to know what it was that was holding me back and after all my searching....it's not nearly as bad as I thought it might be.

    Mark Twain wrote:  "I'm an old man, and have had many troubles in my life.....many of which never happened."   I GET IT!!

    This sight has been an invaluable resource in helping make this discovery. 

     

    IT'S A GOOD DAY TO DIE!    Thank You

     

    JJ

  • ADHD-related anger? by: hawaiianbluemoon15 10 years 6 months ago

    hello everyone :)

    Let me start out by saying I'm so glad I found this site!!! I can relate to so many ADHDers on here! Now on to my point.  My boyfriend and I have been together for a little over three and a half years.  Over the years, we have come to the realization of how much of an angry person I am/can be. He thinks of me as "unhappy" person and now, I do as well. Up until recently, I thought it could be due to the depression that runs on my mother's side of the family. My grandmother is a VERY unhappy person. Constant negativity and constant nastiness to other people. Possible contributing factor?  Possibly. But I'm not nasty towards other people. And for the negativity? Lets just say I could look on the brighter side of things a little more often. What has led us to this conclusion, is I explode over the littlest things A LOT. Not as much as I use too, but I still do it. He has told me in the past that he only likes being around when the happy me is present. Also, I have a hard time with letting the little things go and overreacting. I know this in my heart. If I don't get my act together, its splitsville for us (he has also told me this multiple times). We've been trying to work together on improving our relationship for a couple of years now. With some improvement, but not complete satisfaction. I'm delighted I came upon this website. I'm hoping it'll help me with my ADHD related issues, and therefore, improving our relationship. We have discussed splitting up, but we both agreed that we don't want too give up on one another yet, if ever. But sometimes I wonder if we're beating a dead horse. How do you know its time to throw in the rag? When do you know that time has arrived? I love this man dearly, and I would be devastated if I ever lost him. I'm a very lucky woman to have him in my life. Especially after 3.5 years of at times, hell. I am at a loss as to what to do. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated!! Heck, even someone responding that can relate to my situation would be uplifting! :-D

     

  • How to Communicate It's Over by: Anders 10 years 6 months ago

    Long story short:  I have been with an undiagnosed ADHD boyfriend for three years.  I found this forum when one day I googled “chronic irresponsibility.”  I have done everything for my boyfriend. I have taken care of him like a mother does a child and have experienced many of the same experiences and frustrations I have read about on these forums.  When I first met my BF I thought he was kind, gentle and sweet, but now I can see he’s quite the opposite:  chronically irresponsible, creating new problems for himself at every turn, all with a touch of explosive anger—the type that gets him fired from every job he’s ever had due to interpersonal issues (this is not an exaggeration).

     

    I’ve decided I don’t want to be in the relationship anymore, mostly because I feel powerless to help him. Every time I help solve one problem, he creates a new one.  We live our lives moving from crisis to crisis.  He has a ton of debt. He closed all his bank accounts so creditors cannot garnish his wages. He now needs me to pay all his bills through my checking account.  I’ve had it.  I choose not to live my life this way. I am choosing a life of fulfillment, not one of constant chaos and aggression.  I don’t even like his personality anymore, especially as it is much different from the personality I thought I was getting at the beginning of the relationship.  There is no hope in restoring our relationship. I am already sold on the concept of moving on.

     

    Here’s my problem.  I don’t know how to communicate in a compassionate and mature way that the relationship is over. Every time I’ve tried to create boundaries in our relationship, I've said so in a very direct way, which usually resulted in him exploding at me. I don’t know how to communicate boundaries other than saying them matter-of-factly. Last time I tried communicating with him he said “I don’t need to know your boundaries,” so maybe he’s just not willing hearing them.

     

    Breaking up with him will have really bad consequences for him and really positive consequences for me. He really does depend on me for all his needs and I am his only friend.  I worry that after our breakup he will eventually drift into homelessness.  I wish I could help, but I cannot.  It hurts to help.  He really is someone who “bites the hand who feeds him.” He yells at me.  Maybe there’s verbal and emotional abuse.  I am shy and amiable. He is aggressive and angry.  There’s no way it’s going to work in the long term. This is why I can no longer provide him assistance. But how to tell him when he may end up homeless as a result of the breakup?  

  • Wife is leaving me :( by: Marty Gabriel 10 years 6 months ago

    I've been with my wife now for over 6 years.  We have 2 boys, aged 2 and 5.  When we first met, it was great.  We had lots of time to give towards each other and we loved each other very much.  Over a month ago, my wife told me she is leaving me because of the way things had been for the last 5 years, the way I have been.  This was a slap in the face for me and triggered something in me to start putting things together from my past.  I went to see my doctor and I am now in the process of testing for ADD.  The signs are all there and I admitting that there is something wrong with me.  I have tried to see councilors, couples therapy and other forms of help but nothing stuck, nothing seem to help me, I would never follow through.  I am now in the process of bettering myself and I feel like my wife has abandoned me.  I believe that a family should stick together and try to fix things, especially when the other partner is sick.  She has said that she has gone through too much and can't go on.  I asked her if I get diagnosed with ADD, will that change anything and she said no.  Like I said, I feel completely abandoned from my wife.  She has lost faith in me and this makes me very sad.  I've been told to just let her go and to concentrate on changing my environment, changing my ways, getting better and then just seeing how things happen.  This is not easy.  She is my wife, I need her to help me through this!

  • what happens if I don't care any more by: dvance 10 years 6 months ago

    I forgot this board was here and when I searched my own name I saw how much I used to post!  I am 43 and have been married for 19 years to an ADHD husband.  Our 15 year old son is fine, our 12 year old son has Asperger's, sensory issues and anxiety.  Hubby has had two jobs in the past three years--fired from both.  He has been unemployed since January with nothing on the horizon.  I am not even really sure what happened with this job because the story he told me doesn't make a lot of sense.  He has lied to me for the entire 19 years of our marriage about big things, small things, inconsequential things, important things.  The last time he lied was when I found out he has another bank account, one I did not know about, that had several thousand dollars in it even after he had been fired.  I have no idea where the money came from or what he does with it--it went from $3500 in December to $1200 in February and I have no idea where it all went.  He will not tell me.  Won't tell me where it came from, won't tell me what he spent it on.  Throughout our marriage, every time he lied I used to wonder what it was going to feel like when I had had enough and now I know.  that lie was it for me.  we will not be splitting up, we can't afford it.  but I no longer trust a single word he says and what's worse, I no longer even care.  he told me the other day about some friend of mine who had hit on him several years ago and not only do I not believe it actually happened, I honestly don't even care.  it's clear he is going to do whatever he pleases regardless of the consequences to me or our family.  I'm not being very clear--what happens if I no longer care what he does, if he actually finishes anything, if he lies, whatever.  He's a nice person, we don't fight on a day to day basis.  He has an okay relationship with our kids, but I run the show.  All of it--finances, medical decisions, appointments, managing the house.  Half of what goes on around here he doesn't notice or even know goes on.  He doesn't ask about the kids appointments (the older one just had a cardiology issue--he didn't ask about the appointments).  I cannot count on him for anything of any consequence.  He will call me and say I'm on the way home (from somewhere like 30 minutes away) and not walk in the house until 2 hours later.  No idea where he was in the interim and he doesn't say.  Whatever.  

    How do others deal with that feeling of being completely wrung out and spent ALL the time.  I have no energy for anything extra at all.  I have gained 15 pounds in the past year--I used to swim and walk and jog--no energy any more.  he has always been this bad, it's just the longer it goes on and the older the kids get and the more I see that I have grown and changed over the past 19 years and he has not, the less patience I have for it all.  he has no direction, no goals, his unemployment runs out in June and he has no idea if he can get an extension, what he will do to make up that money, nothing.  I am the only adult in our family and like I said, it's been this way for a long time, this is not new.  he has not changed his behavior, I have changed the way I see things and what I want.  my plan is to suck it up for the next five years and when our youngest son goes to college to be done.  I am so tired of taking care of another adult who is supposed to be my equal partner but because of the ADHD he is just not capable.  He is medicated and when I ask him how he thinks he is doing or how he thinks we are doing, he says fine.  I'm not surprised-what's not to love about a life where you get to behave any way you want and someone else does all the hard stuff.  I would love to not have to be so vigilant all the time, to only have to think about myself and know that someone else is making sure all the boring hard grown up stuff like bills and appointments and disciplining and schlepping kids and making meals just magically gets done.

    how do other non-ADHD spouses manage to keep doing what needs to be done with so little help and in fact having to work around someone who often makes things a WAY bigger project than they need to be???

    thanks--

    dana

  • Is it normal for an ADDer to cut you off for no reason?? by: Sueann 10 years 6 months ago

    I am divorced from my ADDer (my choice). I also have an ADD daughter, although she's not biologically related to my ADD ex-husband. She's the child of my first marriage. Neither first husband nor I have ever been diagnosed with ADD. But my second daughter, although never diagnosed with it, clearly has it. Her son has been diagnosed with it and the similarities are striking.

    When I left my husband I didn't tell my daughter for 5 days. She works nights, and she's always either at work or asleep and I just didn't get around to it. He's not her father and she never lived with him. She was 25 when we got married. I wasn't expecting any kind of emotional or financial support from her. So she hasn't spoken to me since. I only found out from her sister why she won't talk to me any more. She never said a word to me.

    My ex is the same way. We were friends before we started dating, and I miss him. I would love it if he answered emails and maybe we could talk on the phone once in a while. We went out to dinner and a play in January. As far as I could tell, he had a great time. (I know I did.) I don't want him back and I don't think he wants me back, but I find the fact that he won't return phone calls rather odd. I'd like to keep up with the pets I had to leave with him and so forth.

    So is this normal for ADDers? Out of sight, out of mind? You are no use to me any more, so I'm not going to waste time talking to you? Does anyone have any input on this?

  • Ummmm....where did you go??? by: Anonymous (not verified) 10 years 6 months ago

    I was on a break at work and got on Facebook and saw that my husband was on there as well. After a little bit of chit chat I asked him if there was anything we needed for dinner that I needed to pick up at the store on the way home. He said "Let me go check". He then logged OFF of Facebook and has been logged off for 15 minutes now. Ummm....helloooooo??? Really? You lost focus on that task in 2 seconds??

  • Bankruptcy of a soul by: I'm So Exhausted 10 years 6 months ago

    “Disappointment is a sort of bankruptcy - the bankruptcy of a soul that expends too much in hope and expectation.” ~Eric Hoffer~

    “Disappointment will come when your effort does not give you the expected return. If things don’t go as planned or if you face failure. Failure is extremely difficult to handle, but those that do come out stronger." ~Chetan Bhagat~

    I am surely wondering about direction. I did not get good instructions on marriage by watching my parents. My Dad was a raging alcoholic. Mean words were his backlash at us.

    My spouse did not get good instructions on marriage by watching his parents. Ten years into their marriage, when my husband was about 7, his dad moved into another bedroom. His parents stayed 'married' until their deathbeds, warring factions: "active hostility or contention; conflict; contest: a war of words" as they were good Catholics, and good Catholics do not divorce. His parents did not talk, they used their children to send messages to each other, and the end result was you were either 'for Mom' or 'for Dad.' Mom worshipped the ground Dad walked upon. Dad despised Mom. Brutal. Ugly.

    My spouse 'purposed' to do things different. I 'purposed' to do things different. My line of direction was study, read, ask questions, watch and learn. My goal was to be the good Christian wife, and tried my darnedest to make the right choices. Encourage my spouse. Lift up my spouse. Pray for my spouse. Encourage my spouse. Never degrade my spouse. Never speak badly of my spouse in front of his children. Be a cheerleader for my spouse. Bend to his leadership. Make my spouse happy. How did I lose myself along the way? I thought I was doing it right. I put time and effort and purpose into every choice I made. I raised our children. I supported him in his choice of being self-employed. I immersed my own self into making his dream come true. I did the housework. I did the laundry. I did the grocery shopping. I made the holiday magic happen. I did the administration for his business - without pay because it was easier for me - I loved what I was doing. It was my heart calling. And it had exploded all over the place. I feel his resentment towards me. I feel his anger towards me. I do not know how to deal with non-compromise. I do not know how to handle making agreements, and being disappointed in feeling let-down.

    So when he said he was ready to try counseling again, I had that old glimmer of excitement. Really? You want to try? I am willing to put in a last ditch effort.

    3 weeks in, and the same pattern has evolved. Not once have I heard him say what I so-o-o thought I was going to hear from him, "I see that these negative ADHD behaviors are getting in the way." or, "I am here because I want to know what "I" need to do to make this marriage work." The conversations fall into him weeping and wailing and being so despondent over "no sex."

    I have 'no sex' too. I have no intimacy. I have no soft place to fall. I have no help. I have no support. Oh holy Toledo. I spent 29 years trying to be a couple, trying to be his support, trying to latch onto his dreams, and heck, I do not want to go out on my own.

    I am staring the reality in the face:   I will have to go out on my own.

  • A few a Questions by: Cougar67 10 years 6 months ago

    Hi, I once had a boyfriend whom had ADHD and learning disabilities. Sadly we are no longer together. I read lots of literature on the condition but some of it I found very confusing and it wasn't until I read up on Aspergers that I gained some real insight as the two can overlap and are very similar in nature or so I have been led to believe. However I am still some what a little mystified and would be grateful for some feed back. Firstly I was wondering if some sufferers have difficultly with communication and finding the right words to use when in conversation with another.Is it quite common for some sufferers to speak to you as though they have already told you about something when the reality is they haven't as sometimes I felt as though I was being treated as if I was a mind reader. Is it quite common for them to completely shut you out as if you never existed and won't talk about what maybe bothering them or that there is something wrong. They were non aggressive and in lots of ways quite kind but for most of the time I felt like they were building walls and refusing to let me I and hyper sensitive and thought I was attacking them when I wasn't which left me feeling quite hurt and at times exasperated.

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