I just found this forum and I'm reading things for the first time that sound exactly like my marriage. My husband is ADHD, very intelligent, highly successful businessman. We have one adopted daughter age 10 with some emotional issues and my husbands daughter is a jr in high school and with us half the time. We have been married 10 years. Husband is cold, distant, constantly telling to "get out of his f-ing business", defensive, etc etc etc. He can't put his cell phone down even on our "date nights" and pays all his attention to his bio daughter and neglects me and our younger daughter. On the plus side, he never asks me what I'm up to, does not put limits on my spending (I'm a pretty conservative type financially so I don't spend needlessly just for the sake of spending), and never tries to control what I'm doing or where I'm going. He wants the same for himself, hence the "get out of my business" comment. The problem is that he frequently leaves for hours playing golf or going to stepdaughter's basketball games etc and leaves me at home with the younger child. Sometimes he goes to dinner after his daughter's sporting events and doesn't even bother to tell me where he is or call/text to ask if I would like some dinner myself. He refuses to listen to any discussions about emotions or feelings, tells me I'm not being "reasonable" or that I'm creating "drama". He only wants happy and cheerful superficial discussions, and if I don't adhere to that I'm being negative. He takes no responsibility for his hurtful actions (ex: he throws out my mail or my things, I ask him to not touch any of my stuff and he says I have an anger problem. Huh? Wouldn't an appropriate response be "whoops, I goofed, I'm sorry?"). I could go on and on, but I feel verbally abused, neglected and very lonely in my own (beautiful) house with him. Trying to decide if I should stay since I'm financially very secure with him and don't feel like splitting would be best for our younger daugther with her issues. Oh, he has solicited other women in the past when things between us have been rough, not sure if anything has ever happened although he denies any physical affairs. I've also found out he has a pretty good porn habit and when I confronted him with my concerns about it he said I was being "unreasonable" and that there was nothing wrong with it. Any advice from anyone who has had kids and split? Any advice/observations from anyone would actually be appreciated.
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- Married 10 years, need advice by: kalimando 11 years 2 days ago
- New here and NEED SUPPORT by: lovingwife.frus... 11 years 3 days ago
I'm very frustrated today and seems the frustration waxes and wanes as far as I am able to keep track of everything as I am just one person. But Im floundering, my job is not 100% my home is not given 100% and my kids dont always get it because Im doing EVERYTHING ELSE!
Background:
Me: Type A personality, driven, fairly successful. Committed Christian.
Went from full time to part time (well70%) when #2 was born because I wanted more time with kids but also because I COULD BOT handle home and ds working full time. largely due to DH
Hubby: Creative type, took a long time to settle on a career, doing well in it, Dx with ADHD last year. Sent him to Psych 4 years ago and misdiagnosed, 4 wasted years of meds and no change because DH would not change doctors. committed Christian.
We have been married 6 years and have 2 young children (almost 4 and 18 mo). Trying r another (shakes head)
So I need opinions and suggestions. Our home works well when either I do everything and eave DH to do what he remembers to do. Our home works ok when I ask him everything, remind him, text hime and remind again. THIS Is EMOTIONALLY DRAINING ME!
I mean he is on meds why cant they improve his memory? Why should I have to ask or remind when we eat dinner, when the kitchen needs cleaning when it is time for the kds to go to bed? Surre he helps but WHY must all of everything be on my shoulder? ADHD just seems like an excuse to be lazy or say its ok you forgot, AGAIN.
(this form is autosaving every 5 seconds and is messing up my spelling and space so SORRY for the incorrect grammar!) I cnt correct, don't know why)
SO I need support from those who have gone before me. How to I respect my husband and not stay so 110% overwhelmed with everything? How do I not destroy our marriage because Im so angry when he forgets. Im angry I have to tell him basic things. Divorce is not an option as we married for life. So it looks like ALL the adjustments have to come from ME since I dont have ADHD.
How do I not get angry when he blows off a forgetful moment as "no big deal.' I mean if I am the most important person in his life behind God then shouldn't his word mean something? If I ask him to go get the baby a haircut and he forgets why not remedy it>? Why make the other thing you ok him off to do not more important so who cares that I asked him he will do it later. sure a haircut is no big deal but thats NOT THE POINT. I asked him to do it and he said he would. period.
Does ADHD really render you incapable of keeping your word ? incapable of remembering day to day tasks. No one reminds me the bathroom needs to be cleaned the kids need to be bathed, which diapers we use at night so why do I have to tell every basic part of life to a grown, intelligent man? Who does well at his job! isnt his family just as important?
WOW I better stop now Im just upset and feel terribly alone. I cant talk to anyone because I feel it is important not to bad mouth him to friends or family. and I'm sorry about all the errors I really cannot corect
- loneliness. by: lovehurtsalotwi... 11 years 3 days ago
After finding the guts to finally end things with my spouse i feel the same way even after the separation.The loneliness is the same there is no different feeling where i thought that i would feel extra lonely.For the 3 years of struggling with the marriage i resorted in ending the abuse finally.
His abuse was very extreme and sometimes he would get so angry that he must have chased me about 60 count times in the last 3 years.After i realized that he has been cheating all along then i finally had that courage to move on with my life and happy to be away from him for good.I can't be with a cheater! this habit goes in circles..
I felt very alone all the time and being with him was almost like being with no one.I had that '''AH HA''' moment where i realized i am very much alone even though i was with him and now ever so more the feeling has not changed.
I do still love him but i am happy that i don't have to go through this pain and suffering any longer and vow to my self to chose my next companion for the future with caution.
I do feel very much alone,but i was always so no difference.
lovehurts.
- I am a Non-ADHD spouse that would like your input by: comingtotermswithit 11 years 3 days ago
Today, for the first time I am publicly facing what I have suspected for years. We just celebrated out 9th anniversary but I feel like my heart has gone to sleep.
I am a Non-ADHD spouse. My story is long and my need for support great. We made a doctor's appointment a couple of years ago to talk about the possibility
of my spouse having some type of ADHD. ( I had done some research on ADHD and come to understand that perhaps I was not going crazy and the doctor
would be a good first step) This step to go to the doctor was HUGE and I was so hopeful. Once the doctor came in and we brought up the subject, it was simply a matter of
seconds before the doctor had brushed off our concerns and reassured my spouse that he was just being a "guy". That was the end of it! Now there is" doctor proof
that there is nothing wrong". Needless to say I walked out before he could finish talking and on the verge of tears. Since that day alot has happened. I have given
up having long heartfelt talks that just get forgotten the next day. I take on the majority of the house and financial responsibilities. I set the pace for discipline
for our little boy and carry on feeling like a single woman. I have given up being angry about it but cannot help feeling alone. I don't know what to say when
he says "I just get the feeling you don't love me anymore". I have decided to just live my life peacefully being me and being grateful for the fact the my husband
works really hard to care for our family "at work". He is really great at playing and having fun. I have learned to just listen when he talks about projects I
know he will never even start. I know the man I love is in there somewhere but, lives in a world that I don't understand. I try to just keep life as normal as possible but I cannot help but wonder if he will decide that he does not seem to be connected to me like we were before
we became a family and will want to walk away. I guess, secretly in my heart, I have had to face that fear as well as the possibility that he will never want
to explore learning about ADHD. I try to live each day one at a time being grateful for what I have and believe that miracles can happen, even if they are little
ones over time. I am open to any tips or ideas that anyone can share to help me live more fully with what I have.
- love. by: lovehurtsalotwi... 11 years 4 days ago
Love is something that i have never felt for a long time while being in this relationship with my Ex.I can't remember when was the last time he looked at me with those loving eyes and said i love you hun!.Today i love him and probably will for a while until i meet someone else.He tore me to pieces,he ruined my every Skye ability to trust another man again.I was, we was very much in love at first and it was the most amazing feeling of my life.After a few weeks or so things started getting very comfy for him and he started dominating me,controlling me,telling me who to talk to, who to be with, that i should quit my job to be with him all the time,tells me i am doing a shit job,brings down my ego,try to tell me that i am over weight when i was only weighing 130 lbs,made me start exercising saying "it's for your health,not a weight thing",he totally started to manipulate me.
One of the things that really hurt me the most is when i met him he had two suit cases with clothes and 3 hundred dollars,no car,no job,no money,no savings.NOTHING!!!!! I took him in fed him,cloth him,paid for his nasty pot habit and also allowed him to sleep in till 11 am in the mornings while i beat the morning serving my customers their Devine,delicious breakfast i prepare for them.I have a huge clientele and my business is growing my the years.The same said job that i am doing that he defines as shit!
I am hurt,confuse,neglected by him and somehow i have to put on a brave face home here so my kids don't worry about their mom.I would never give up on love ever,i wish that i would really find my match some day,it's very hard,i am almost 34 and i have never found that person yet,what i thought was my soul mate turned out to be my soul crusher.I can't resort to living under strenuous circumstances,it's hard already being a single mom and having my own business then to have to put up with my Ex's narcissism..
hope i come out of this soon and find the happiness i always crave and never found...
lovehurts...
- Alone in the cold by: Pix2clix 11 years 5 days ago
I keep saying this is it – the last straw – I cannot keep doing this – when will she ever “get it”. I know in my heart it may be never, but my “it” is different than her “it”. Our son is 5 years old next month and I have been his primary caregiver since he was 2 (we still all live together, but she does nothing to assist concerning parenting). I read where it stated to not “exaggerate – or whatever”, but I am completely serious. She has never read a book to him and could not tell you right now what his teachers name is. I look back now and it all makes sense – she loved me and us so hard and so much when we were first starting I thought (never having been in love) that this was the way it was and normal. Now I know she was stuck in hyperfocus (it’s how we had him in the first place). She stopped taking her birth control and I can see now how that can happen. She cannot hold down a job because anytime something “happens” at work like getting passed on a promotion or numbers that do not get her a bonus she can do nothing else but work and talk about that every single minute of the day (she once cried at Disney World) about something that had happened at work before we left. I was so upset that she would allow something to ruin our vacation that I saved for years for. For 3 of our 5 years I have been her and our families everything – I do the budget – cleaning – cooking – the better job – raising our son (and diagnosing his speech disorder) – living agreements – doctor appts – teacher and school choices – all in her home town where I don’t know anyone (I know some people now, but I am so busy doing everything else I do not have time for me). I also am a full time student (with a 3.7 GPA) for the past 2 years because I know for our son to have a chance at a good life my earning potential needs to grow. I allowed her to quit her job and start a business (something she has always wanted to do). I knew it might be hard, but my only other option was to say no and have her resent me and say I am holding her back. She is not a flake (per say) and graduated first in her business class (I see now how hard she had to work to do that) and the business has been successful, but at the cost of losing her family basically. She sees her son 8 hours a week (I again am not exaggerating). She will sit on the couch online “working” for hours without lifting a finger – she has never cooked for herself and will get mad at me if I cook and don’t make her anything. She gets upset if the bills and funds get tight, but will overdraw her account (because she forgot something) to the tune of 120$ and then blame the bank. The bottom line is I have asked to separate a few times, but she knows I cannot afford to force the issue. Also my biggest point is that I know she loves us best she can, but I am paralyzed at the fact of her taking him anywhere alone and want him almost anywhere other than with her alone in public. I was in a bad way when we found each other and people told her to stay away from me and that I was bad news. She went with her gut and turned this piece of coal into a diamond. I want to show her the same grace, but does living with someone with this mean I will never truly get to share my life and moments with anyone. It is always about the “topic of the day/NOW” and everything else gets put aside or squeezed in. She asks me to never interrupts her cause she forgets mid-stream and to reply / talk in short brief sentences (as you can tell her that is not in my nature). I actually am going to law school and thought about being a writer. Is there help where she can see how this is effecting me. She has been taking Adderall for 9 years and it really does not help my situation. Her biggest issues are a cluttered house, but worst is never – ever on time for anything and is a night owl. I am the exact opposite (which you would think is great), but really is not. I have grown to resent her, but stick by her because I know this is not her fault and know inside it would hurt our son to have her leave completely. I think part of it is that we live somewhere where I have no friends or support group so her actions and lack of attention to her family is amplified. She is not the villain and is actually an amazing person and I tell her sometimes (I feel bad when I do) that if it were not for our son you would be the perfect partner. I also know I will have to explain to a young boy that mommy still loves him though she was late or worse forgot to pick him up (which can be super dangerous). I have seen a counselor before (alone) and do want to try and make this work, but am smart enough to know everything has limits. I hate calling myself a single dad, but sometimes it is worse because I am taking care of both of them on my dime - alone - without a break twice a week or month - and I cannot try and date or confide in anyone cause I am married, but alone doing it all by myself.
- What should I think about before marrying an ADHD man? by: tgirl 11 years 5 days ago
So I have read a lot of disheartening stories here. I am currently with an adhd bf. Adhd has caused some problems, but we still love each other and we have talked about possibly getting married in the future. I am sure there are a good amount of successful adhd marriages. However, I see that adhd can also cause a lot of pain. What should i think about or evaluate about my adhd man before I decide to share a life with him?
- He moved on! by: bettermom 11 years 5 days ago
I had posted previously on here with a different name and received a lot of positive feedback.
I finally ended my marriage. About three months ago after one of our explosive arguments I snapped. I had forgotten to pick up butter from the store and was very upset that I forgot. First mistake...do not let husband know that you are upset because he has two emotions. Bouncing of the walls and kicking down the walls. He freaked out and grabbed the kitchen cupboard door and tried to rip it off. I had enough. I shouldn't be exposed to the amount of negativity, frustration and anger from one man. He had torn me down emotionally over the past 9 years and the last year or so I have been emotionally detached from him. You know the drill, it's my fault and for me to assume that he wants to be accountable for anything going wrong...well, I must be out to lunch.
He has refused to attend counseling with me to work on anger issues. I even said that the anger was shared between us (turns out the majority is my defensiveness from being called a n*gger dumb ass c&nt), and he said that I was weak. He didn't need help and are issues were my problem. I finally realized that there were no winners here, our family life was suffering, the kids wanted us to split, etc. It takes two to commit. He didn't want to stop going out on Friday and staying out until 10 am after being on a coke/booze bender. He wanted me to be on the coke/booze bender with him!
I started feeling good almost the second after I had enough and told him I was done trying. He arranged to move out and has done so, all while complaining that I do not understand how much it costs to live? Did I mention that everything in the house (including the HOUSE) is in my name. I was financially independent before I met him. He was 33 and lived in his friend's basement. Didn't own a thing and never had to be responsible for anything.
Now it has been a few months and as it turns out, he has a new serious girlfriend. WTF? I have had to do serious healing and self preservation to gain my confidence back and he moved on? It makes me angry and sad at the same time. I don't want him back, I guess I just don't understand how he has no clue how damaged he made me?
- Was it the drinking? The ADHD? Is it him? Is it me? by: Fox_Paws 11 years 5 days ago
Sorry, this is long as hell. But I'm just at a loss as to what to do. Maybe someone can help.
I am the ADHD spouse. My husband and I have been together for 13 years and married for 10. We have a 4 year old son who is our whole world. We have gone through marriage counseling on three separate occasions: early in our marriage for a few sessions, but husband wasn't in to it, midway through our marriage after I had an emotional affair he wanted to save the marriage, then again last year after my alcoholism got out of control and I got blackout drunk and slept with an acquaintance who I'd known for about 2 weeks. Again, it was he who really wanted to save the marriage. At that time, however, I was the one who was not really in to marriage counseling. I wanted to put my focus into working a recovery program. And honestly, I was a real confused mess right then and there and I just couldn't take in what was happening.
That awful incident a year and a half ago was the last time I drank. I have been sober and actively working a program of recovery ever since. In the last several months especially I feel that I have made immense strides towards becoming a better wife, mother and human being. I know I was awful for about 2 or 3 years leading up to that last drunk. My mother died in 2010, and after she died I began to really hold back from love. Then soon after my mother's death my grandmother, who I was extremely close to, also died. It pushed me over the edge, and I numbed out and pulled away from my marriage, afraid to ever feel the pain of loss again. I didn't take care of my child like I should. I was gone a lot. When I was home, I was drunk. My hangovers were a weekly occurrence. My husband really did have to take over so much when I was this way.
Once I got sober, he began to read books like Melissa Orlov's wonderful book, and "Is it You, Me or Adult ADHD." He thought the ADHD was playing a huge role in a lot of our problems. I got more serious about treating my ADHD and had my psychiatrist adjust my meds so that I'd have some medication "coverage" at home instead of just in the morning at work. It definitely helped. About 4 or 5 months ago, I was at the end of my rope, and he asked me to read Melissa Orlov's book for myself, which I did and I did gain a lot from reading it. But here I am, 4 or 5 months later, at the end of my rope again.
The biggest problem in our marriage is the parent/child dynamic. We both acknowledge this. I feel disrespected overall. He gets little "digs" at me in, like this morning when I said our 4 year old reminded me of me in that he is shy, and he said, "and he can't listen, and he's always distracted." This morning we got in a huge fight (our second huge fight this week, yay!) because I took 5 minutes longer doing meditation than I said I would. He didn't immediately say why he was even mad. Of course, I'm thinking, "Oh, well we're not even late, great! I rock." He stewed for a good half hour before telling me why he was mad. I apologized and said that since I am new to meditating (I'm on day 4) that I was just trying to get into a groove. I don't know what else I could have said. I said I was sorry. He was mad because I hadn't realized immediately that I did something wrong and that I "never take responsibility for anything" and that it's always "his fault" when he's a jerk. I got very angry, I tried not to, but he just pushes me like no one else. Right before we departed for our respective jobs, I said something really nasty and made a b-line for the elevator.
So this morning pretty much fits the pattern of what usually happens. He gets mad because I do something, I get mad because he's mean about it, he gets even more mad because now I'm supposedly blaming him, I start to feel intense shame and start to feel horrible about myself, almost suicidal, and usually I walk away (which really makes him mad, but it's better than saying something I regret), cry or lash out.
In no other relationship I have ever been in has it been this intensely negative. I promise, anyone you would ask who knows me would say I am a really positive, upbeat person. But he brings out this really ugly side of me. Sadly enough, my son has even seen this ugly side. My marriage makes me feel horrible about myself. It makes me feel like if I get a divorce, I should probably just get an apartment and a few more cats and never torment someone with my disorder like I've tormented him. But another part of me knows that I'm not a worthless piece of crap and that maybe he's the one who needs to do some work. How much work can I even do? I'm in recovery, I am starting and sticking with a meditation program, I'm in a 6 week "love yourself and accept everything" art journaling course. I am actively working towards self-improvement. What else can I, personally, do? Meanwhile, what's he done? He went to one Al-Anon meeting and was like, "meh." I asked him to join me in the art journaling course, he said yes but then never did it. I asked him last night, maybe each night before bed we can say one thing we are grateful for and one thing we appreciate about each other. He said no. He went to therapy for awhile but he says they told him there was nothing they could do for him because nothing was wrong with him. And yet I see a very negative, frustrated, borderline abusive person who is in desperate need of some serenity. Even his own mother thinks he is mean to me. And she's thought that since before I even started getting wasted all the time. He once went through a period about 7 years ago where he didn't want to say "I love you" to me anymore because he said "I should just know." Sometimes I'm scared that he's messing with my head and trying to make me think I'm crazy. I want serenity and joy for him, when I pray I pray for it and when I "make wishes" on stars or wishing wells or whatever it's always that he be happy. But how much more abuse can I take? To hear him say it, I am the one causing all of his problems. I have no idea why the hell he wants this marriage to work so badly, but he does. He says he loves me, and I believe that, but he certainly doesn't like me.. I think he's more worried about the financial implications of a divorce and what it would do to our child, and probably what people would think of him if his marriage failed.
Ugh, I don't know what else I can say. Maybe someone has been in my position before, or his position before, and can help? I want a divorce, I really do. I just want to be happy and not have to feel horrible about myself for something so stupid as being 5 minutes later than I said I'd be. I feel hopeless and sad, and I feel bad for my son, who has to listen to him put me down, and who I have lashed out at verbally when my husband has put me down and I'm in that place of deep shame and anger. I don't want to go back to marriage counseling really. It's expensive and it requires us to find child care and why would the fourth time work? I'm not sure this marriage was made to last. We fought our entire honeymoon, for crying out loud! We don't have anything in common and we really never have.
If you made it through to the end, thank you for reading.
- I NEED to be able to forgive him by: Biggaboo 11 years 6 days ago
My husband has done some terrible things over the years (not cheat) and now he is trying his very best to mend the broken heart that comes with it... You probably all recognize the stuff out ADHD partners put us through so i wont list everthing but please, how do i forgive and let go???
I have already googled my brains out and "just let go" is not working :(
HELP!