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  • does disengagement from irrational anger work? by: specialk 11 years 8 months ago

    DH and I have been having conflict about getting out of the house in the morning--2 small kids, lots of stuff, etc. DH is also very, very contentious in general. We had a fight about mornings yesterday but this morning I thought things were okay, but he seemed to be really anxious and jumpy even though we were both running on time. He was showered and dressed, I was not, but was getting toddler's breakfast ready. Usually I also get the baby at the same time, but hadn't yet. so he says he'll get the baby. He proceeds to and then  DH stomps downstairs with baby, saying "There are no wipes upstairs!! there were no wipes in [baby's] room or in [toddler's] room!" and proceeds to put her on the table downstairs, where we do have wipes and where I change her (95 percent of the time I get her in the morning and change her downstairs). Ithought about apologizing, but why--its not my fault exclusively that there are no wipes, and in fact since I never change the baby upstairs, haven't needed or missed them." So I just said "I tend to change the baby downstairs"----this set him off, and he responded "oh yeah, since you do EVERYTHING, ALL the work for the kids" with an eye roll (eg, putting a passive aggressive phrase in my mouth). I just looked at him and said calmly "that was uncalled for." he muttered sorry, but then 3 minutes later orders me into the room and says "So,"do you have any objection to me putting wipes upstairs? I'm just curious if that's a problem?" in a tone which I knew meant....trouble coming. And I just collapsed inside, thinking oh no, not again. Not another ridiculous debate. I responded quietly "I don't care" [in retrospect, i should have really practiced disengagement and said "no, its not a problem' but I didn't and that's my mistake--but I felt like, why do I have to humor his bizarre anger?).  And then he goes off, "you don't care? are you saying it doesn't matter to you whether there are wipes or not? or are you saing it doesn't matter if I put them up there? which is it? Dont you think we should have wipes up tehre? Im just trying to understand what you are saying here...." Complete badgering which is typical when he's spoiling for a fight. It took a lot of self control, but  I refused to take the bait, practiced disengagement, said its fine with me if you put wipes upstairs, it doesn't matter to me one way or another, but I'm not going to talk furher about this, I don't want to engage." This just made him angrier, and he started following me up the stairs yelling while holding the baby and leaving our toddler upset downstairs. I told him this isn't normal conversation and I won't engage with him when he's like this. He came up 20 minutes later to tell him again that the fight was my fault. I asked him what it was he wanted from me, what I *should* have said instead and he said that I should have offered to help him,  instead of saying something passive aggressive about how I always change the baby downstairs. That he wanted my help (even though he didn't ask for it, and his behavior had already put me on red alert) was totally unclear, as he was already with baby on changing table and as I approached with her bottle he said "I've got it.". Honestly, I don't think he actually wanted my help. He was anxious and angry about the morning not going the way he wanted it and thus he wanted to fight, to place his anger somewhere. I tried to find a neutral, non confrontational response, but according to him, I was being confrontational. These fights are frequently, and I really feel confused and upset--like no matter what I say, and even trying not to engage, we end up fighting. Inwardly I collape and cry, then my toddler comes upstairs and asks me "mommy are you crying? did you get hurt? do you need to see the doctor?". all worried and confused....

    DH is willing to go to counseling, so we can deal with our problems, but when I suggested that we see someone who specializes in ADHD or is familiar he basically said that if I am blaming him and adhd for our problems and refusing to take responsibiity for my role in the collapse of our marriage, counseling is pointless. So, he sort of acknowledges that he has ADHD, but refuses to deal with it or acknowledge that some of our problems are related to it. and my suggestion that he gets help is seen as me shifting all the blame onto him. at this rate, any counseling is better than nothing, but I'm wondering about spending all this time and money on a counselor to help us with 'communication' if there's a medical issue that must be addressed, but that I cannot bring up, because it means that I am blaming him, etc. It is a vicious, vicious cycle.

     

  • Putting it into words by: jennalemon 11 years 8 months ago

    I seem to be constantly trying to craft a sentence in my mind of how I feel and what I've done and what I want.  I found this online and paraphrased it and seem to be able to attach it to my self.  

    "I have borne the consequences of my spouse's irresponsibility. I have exhausted every means of restoration. I have loved without reservation. I have returned good for childish, uncaring attitude and lack of commitment. I have sacrificed my dignity and self-respect for the sake of my household.  I have done more than most would do."

    That is where I am.  Now, I am trying to craft a sentence of how I want to proceed knowing who I am (want to be again) and finding strength to move forward.

  • ADHD Levels by: LeAnneS 11 years 8 months ago

    Are there different levels to ADHD?  My husband (although undiagnosed) has ADHD -- I'm positive about that based on the symptoms but he doesn't exhibit as much severity with it in some areas as other people do.  Yet, he is a poster child for it in other ways.   He does household chores -- many, in fact.   But he is so distracted when driving, it scares me.  AND -- he rides a Harley Davidson sometimes too.  He kept the same job for 20 years, then moved to another area and has had 7 jobs in the last 2 years.  He's spontaneous and fun but can become angry over the most trivial things.  Yet, other major anger triggers don't bother him.   Does everyone who is ADHD NEED to be on medication?  I'm new to this and want to help him and keep our marriage from disaster like I keep reading other's have fallen into.

  • Newlywed and Discouraged by: LeAnneS 11 years 8 months ago

    I have been married for 3 months to the most wonderful man I have ever met.  However, he has changed drastically since the wedding.  In just 3 months, I have gone from being the best thing ever to feeling like he doesn't love me like he use to before the marriage.  My husband is 53 and extremely ADHD.  I am a teacher and I know what ADHD is in middle school children but I'm not sure how to handle it in a marriage.   I tell him he acts bored with me -- because it feels that way.  How can I avoid this abandonment feeling?  He says I get on his nerves asking him for reassurance repeatedly.  But he's changed so much, I've gotten paranoid.   Help!

    LeAnneS

  • Where's the wallet? by: I'm So Exhausted 11 years 8 months ago

    My spouse lost/misplaced his wallet . . . again.

    He asked me for some cash and my debit card to use for the day.  I gave him some cash, but told him I needed my debit card.  He left.  He is 'pretty sure' the wallet is here - out in the yard, out in the barn, lost among all the junk back there.

    My stomach is in knots.    Who takes care of the money/finances in our home - yep, it is me.

    Grrr.....

     

  • Are ADDers capable of empathy? by: McCleskey 11 years 8 months ago

    My husband is always complaining that I don't cook.  My children are grown and I spend a lot of time after work at the gym because I prefer not to be around him in the evenings.  Sunday night I came home after a hard workout and made a big pot of soup.  To make a long story short, he walked in, looked at the soup and told me he was going to my mother's for leftovers.  I actually had the expectation that he would be pleased that I took the time to make homemade soup, and that he would actually want to eat it!  I was stunned.  I explained that I made the soup for him because he said that I never cook.  His reply was that I made it for myself and that he might eat some later if I didn't put it all in the freezer.  He knew I was furious but he calmly walked out to his truck and left.  The last time I let me anger show, he started throwing things, so I had to take a Xanax to calm down.  I really don't like the man anymore.  I don't want to be around him.  And after this, I won't make any efforts to do anything special for him.  At this point, I just try to avoid him.  He is negative and mean and I'm emotionally finished with him.  I actually love my cats more.  I hope he never really needs anything from me because I'm not sure I could be there for him.

  • i am new here... by: specialk 11 years 8 months ago

    found this site after another evening of sobbing on the couch. Been married 4 years, have 2 small kids. Always knew DH had a problem with organization, but never realized the extent of his dysfunction. Just a few pieces of the puzzle I have put together: horrible with finances (after a horrendous and flagrant failure on his part that cost us thousands, I now handle everything related to all our finances, but I can't even get him to give me a bill he has to submit, or give me the name of the dental insurance--we're on his new insurance, etc); reckless /distracted behavior (2 accidents this year, 2 speeding tix); loses things (today's incident, which set off tonight's fight was that he went somewhere with the baby, and left the 150$ stroller on the street and drove off and didn't even realize it,  now its gone); quick to flare (often claims he is not angry, but I frequently feel like he is jumping down my throat or badgering me, esp. if I tell him I am upset about something, he turns it on me, goes on the attack); job issues (very smart, charismatic, hired easily, but also fired easily--not even understanding or sensing that he is gong to be fired, which suggests a lack of social awareness); genetic issues (his father has depression and I believe a mental illness,  he has an older child (my stepson) with significant executive functioning issues and is significantly learning disabled, now my toddler son exhibits signs of ADD). I am sure I am not contributing to the dynamic because I nag, get upset, cry, yell, and feel resentful and withdraw. A year ago, after begging and pleading (after the 3rd firing in 2 years) he saw a psychiatrist, who put him on ritalin but also stressed cog behavior or ADD coach. DH takes the meds, say they help him at work, but he has never followed up with anything else, and our home life has changed little: while we both work F/T (me more than him--maybe 60 hours a week, often at night since I come home, make dinner, put kids to bed, clean and prep for the next day and then resume work).  I do all the finances, planning, cleaning, organization, school applications, mail, doctor's appts, etc, and on top of it I have to deal with his mess ups. Another factor at play is that he snores horribly and (after a year of me begging and yelling) he saw an ENT who gave him an RX do to a sleep study, but he has not done it yet--its been 16 months since his appt and the rx expired, of course).   We also dont sleep in the same bed anymore, which is terrible for our marriage. I told him that it made me feel unimportant and he said that he cared--but I likened it to me having a problem that kept me from having sex and refusing to see a doctor for it. How would that make him feel?

     

     I feel desperate but the thing that keeps me from leaving him is that I'm terrified of leaving my kids with him for an extended period of time. Today, in addition to coming home without the stroller, the baby was bleeding from a gash--she had fallen. Falls happen, of course, but give his electronic addiction (he frequently checks email while watching the kids) I have to wonder and I hate that I have that doubt.  He admitted to me tonight that he had problems keeping more than one thing in his mind at once, but said that I have to understand that about him and that its not fair for me to get angry about things like the stroller. What he doesn't understand is that its not the stroller, its his willingess to acknowledge that he has a problem, but refusal to do anything about it. He can see it in his son, although even there, he leaves the heavy lifting to his ex, or, now to me, to schedule, make sure homework is done, showers taken, meds taken, etc. It hurts me deeply that he'll surf the web for hours (he has 2 cell phones and thus endless electronic distraction) but will not take 45 min to see a counselor, or 5 minutes to look up the information I need for our finances, etc. He thinks that intention is all that matters--he does't intend to hurt me, so I have no right to being hurt. He doesn't intend to mess up, so I can't be angry, etc. 

    I have always been an overachiever, capable person, but I am at my limit--exhausted and angry, and filled with resentment. I am worried that I won't be able to recover from these feelings, or put them aside enough to generate positive feelings. He thinks I am overreacting, and that my anger is 'my choice.' of course he's right, perhaps if I were superhuman i could choose not to be angry, but I feel at the same time that he is asking me to give up on any reasonable expectation that he can be a real partner in this marriage.  

    where do I go from here? how do I deal with these feelings? I feel like I need Al-Anon for spouses of those with ADD. 

  • ADHD, aging and menopause by: beingNT 11 years 8 months ago

    My wife has ADHD, PMDD and other disorders.  I don't need to reiterate the common problematic issues of relationships here since that's all over the forum.  However, she's heading towards perimenopause and I am... uh... scared.  She has her mood swings under control with medication at the moment and some emotional management tools, therapy.  We have rules to protect me also because she used to be emotionally abusive with me though, and still has impulsivity issues etc.  The other ADHD issues are things she is working on.

    I can't find research on ADHD and it's relationship to aging and menopause.  Anybody have resources?  Or personal experience to share?  Tips?

    Thanks! :)

  • Debt by: jennalemon 11 years 8 months ago

    DH has business debts and very little retirement money saved.  We passed retirement age but both have our own small dwindling businesses.  We just had a personal visit to our home this morning by someone who he owes rent and utilities for his workshop.  This was a debt where I had specifically asked, "Do you owe them money?"  He said he was paid up.  A lie again.  After the person left, I waited to hear his response.  No words at all.  He was waiting for me to talk while he hung his head in silence.  In the past I would start with things like, "Let's do a budget", Let's look at this and find some solutions", etc. Or I might yell in exasperation with a "How Could You?" Ending with me taking care of things for the moment while he mumbled empty promises and did crossword puzzles.  This time I did not yell or try to help him figure this out.  HE started yelling at ME for not being compassionate saying "Its hard to cooperate in a relationship when YOU are not compassionate." And then some "made up" insinuations toward me about our entire family life.  This had worked for him for decades with me as I used to try to accept MY part of the relationship failures.  In the past, I would consider what he said to me and I would try harder or different.  He would walk away feeling like he WON the conversation and forget it.

    What I have learned.  No words or support or trying to understand him has any effect on what he does or what he thinks or how he feels.  He soothes himself with pastimes and bad habits and then is able to forget.  That is all he can handle.  That is all I can expect from him.  I have been manipulated all those years to give HIM security and social acceptance and my reward is his blame. That is all I am USED for to him.  He has not loved me.  He impulsively fooled around at every opportunity.  I guess I thought he would love me for all I did for him, but he does not even accept that I did anything for him.  He can only soothe himself through the present moment. He can only work to create a reality and history in his mind to make himself feel good about himself. He likes to think of himself as a great and fun guy.

    We need to rid ourselves of his business, but he has become a dirty pack rat in his rented workshop and I can't do this for him.  I don't know where to turn.  I need some help from a local source but don't know who to confide in.  I have talked to lawyers, financial planners and minister. I can't do this alone.  It is not mine to do alone...it is his business.  I wish I had a strong, intelligent brother to lean on and go through all the particulars of what I should do.  I don't have someone like that so I guess I need to let this house of cards fall down where it will and take my punishment for "letting" him make such a mess of us.  In the old days that was called staying together for the sake of religion/children/integrity and believing in prayer and love.  Today it is called being stupid, weak, codependent, enabling and closing my eyes to reality.  I need to make major changes rather than let it continue in a downward spiral.  I need to be the catalyst to make the changes about HIM and his business dept.  But I can only change ME.  Being married is different than being a business partner.  You can walk away from a business and still have your family in tact.  

    Right now, I am being blamed by him for this recent visit by his creditor because as he says I didn't show HIM enough love. He denies to himself that his business is not making a living wage.  I think he wants me to take care of it.  Then, later he will blame me for closing his business when it was going so well. 

  • ADHD Partner's obsession with sex and certain body types -- will I EVER be enough for him? by: dawn2352 11 years 8 months ago

    I'm new here, but I'm very glad I found this site.  My partner of 6 years has been diagnosed with ADHD and OCD.  This was long before we met, and he's under a doctor's care and taking medication.  

    We have a HUGE issue like a wall between us since we met -- he is only sexually attracted to women who look a certain way.  To get his "fix", he looks at porn pretty much every day, one woman after another after another, often for an hour or more.  It doesn't matter if I'm home in the next room or I'm out of the house.  He says it makes him "happy."

    The problem is that he will not be intimate with me.  In fact, he outright refuses.  We have never had sex once.  I've never seen him naked and he's never seen me.  He's made it abundantly clear that he is NOT interested in looking at me or even trying anything at all and he blames it on my weight.

    Now, when we got together, I'd just lost 40 pounds.  I still had 30 or 40 pounds more to get back to my pre-baby weight, but I looked really good.  I worked out, had lots of energy, and turned heads when I walked down the street.  But it was never enough for him.  What he'd say is that I was "close" to what he can "work" with.  And, when I finally left him in 2011 (I lived separately from him for over a year and just came back last September) he made sure to tell me that he was almost ready to 'get together' with me, I was really close...

    I see it as excuses.  And now (and I take responsibility for the fact that I could have handled it differently), I've gained 20 pounds back, so I now have 50 or 60 pounds to lose!  

    He used to bring up my weight and how frustrated he was (sexually) pretty much like clockwork -- every couple of months.  Now, I think he's at least gotten it through his head that it gets him nowhere and that I have one foot out the door already.  I've gotten a lot stronger over the past year or so.  He doesn't instigate the conversation but, if it comes up for one reason or another, he'll start in with the "you're not going to do it (lose the weight)".  "You can't.  You're not capable.  We're not compatible."  He claims he "knows" I just don't want to do it and I WILL FAIL because I've failed all along.  He tells me the balls in my court and it's all up to me.  If I lose weight and work out and get "fit", he'll try and see if he can work with me.  He claims he doesn't want a fitness model (like the porn he loves to look at), but I know different.  His therapist even told me that only about 25% of the women in the world would fit my b/f's criteria for attractiveness.

    I know the porn he looks at because I've become so distraught I've been looking at his computer history.  I know he has a profile on one of the adult hook-up sites, too although he doesn't seem to be too active on it.  And the women he looks at aren't perfect!  They're chubby, some of them.  Some look sort of like me.  But I also know he's really into body symmetry -- the length of the leg in relation to the torso, the size and shape of the buttocks in relation to... whatever.  I don't even understand it.  It's like he's engineering what he likes -- like he's trying to improve upon and engineer ME.  It just seems so impersonal and objectifying.

    He told me once that he had to look at porn so he'd be interested in sex at all.  He used to tell me he was doing it for "us".  

    So, I guess I actually have two questions:

    1) Is his obsession with certain body types -- and his complete rejection of me because I don't fit in with his idea of attractive -- a symptom of his ADHD?  

    2) Is his rejection of me sexually because he's impotent (he is, from his medications), because he really can't "work" with someone who doesn't look a very certain way, or because he does not like to be touched????  Is his ADHD making him grossed out by real, physical sexuality so that he'll only get his sex from porn/masturbation?

    Sorry for all the questions and the long post.  I've been trying to determine if there's any hope in this relationship at all.  Should I leave? or should I stay? are the biggest questions on my mind.

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