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  • Who cares if the ADHD is what makes them act like jerks??? by: momof2toddlers-... 12 years 6 months ago

    I keep reading posts where the both non-ADD and ADD spouses alike say "it's not the person, it's the ADD".  Who cares?  Why is ADD an excuse for my husband to fight with me over everything, make the most ordinary everyday things a battle that turns into a major altercation?  I'm sick and tired of everything being my fault!  I'm tired of the person who is supposed to love me talking to me like I'm a piece of crap and treating any random person way better than me.  I'm sick of him blurting out rude and inappropriate things in social settings.  I'm tired of him telling everyone things I asked him not to tell, but God help me if I tell anybody our "business", because he will freak out and let me know what a horrible wife I am.  I am done. 

    like living with a ticking time bomb and you never know when it's going to explode.  I deserve better.  NO ONE deserves to live like this.  I can't trust my own husband.  I can't trust him with my feelings and I sure as heck can't trust him to do anything he ever says he will.  I don't care if he has ADD.  That's not an excuse.  I hate the "poor me" attitude.  He always blames everything on someone else.  It's because his parents weren't there for him, it's because he was always in trouble as a kid, it's because his home life was unstable.   Boo hoo.  My mom has been sick and going downhill since I was 9 years old.  She could no longer walk by the time I was 14, when I was 19 she went into a nursing home, and now I'm 32 and she's on hospice.  You don't hear me crying that I get to be a complete jerk and bury my head in the sand because I had it rough growing up.  ADD is NOT an excuse to be mean.  It's not an excuse to treat your loved ones like crap.  It's not an excuse to scream at your 2 year old and her to run to me crying "daddy's mean".  

    If you had cancer, you'd get chemo or whatever else to treat it.  But because you have ADD, you refuse to admit you are ever the problem, it's everyone and everything else causing your bad attitude.  I am sick of it.  I want to know what life is like with someone who values me, puts me first, treats me the way I deserve to be treated.  For years I have worked to be the perfect spouse and the better I get, nicer I am, the meaner he seems to be.

    I'm sorry, but I am so incredibly angry and fed up.  I refuse to live the rest of my life like this.  And from everything I've read, even if he gets treatment, he'll still have a lot of these traits.

  • Ogles women by: zellaam 12 years 6 months ago

    My ADHD boyfriend can't stop looking at other women when we go out.  Sometimes he barely looks at me.  He also watches a lot of porn.  Does that make a man ogle women?

    Would medication help him stop?  Would not looking at porn make him stop ogling women?

    I appreciate any advice.

  • Just the beginning...but I know it can work by: BreezyGirl 12 years 6 months ago

    I am engaged to a man with moderate ADHD.  I don't know if that really counts because we haven't been married yet, but after reading Melissa Orlov's book, I felt like my life was in print.  I love my fiance more than words could ever say.  It is the first time I have been in a relationship where I feel respected and loved unconditionally.  Everything started out GREAT at the beginning of our relationship but then we started fighting all the time.  I mean ALL THE TIME.  Our days became measured not by how happy we were each day but if we didn't fight.  And if we did fight, did we fight really hard or for very long? I couldn't understand it.  Vacations suffered.  We went to bed arguing almost every night.  I had never been so in love and so frustrated all at once.  My fiance was diagnosed with ADHD when he was very young.  He underwent treatment while he was growing up and then his parents dropped the ball and stopped getting him help.  His mom was a selfish alcoholic with what I suspect could be bipolar disorder and his father was just passive and didn't care.  I knew about it when we first started dating, but I never thought that it actually had any effect on him.  I always just thought of his ADHD as the energizer bunny behind his optimism and energetic personality.  I will admit that I blamed his inattentiveness when I was speaking to it, but that was it.  Then one night about two weeks ago when we were arguing, for the first ever, he blamed his actions on his ADHD and said to me, "I have ADHD, okay?  I can't do everything perfect, but I am trying!"  And I said something to him about not blaming his actions on his ADHD...

    ...but then it really started to nag at me.  What if I wasn't giving him enough of the benefit of the doubt?  Why couldn't it be just as much if not more my fault than it was his?  So I did some research, found Melissa Orlov's book, and within the first 10 pages, I was crying.  This was my life.  The Parent-Child Dynamic and then nagging and the frustration.  The Symptom-Response-Response model.  It was me to a "T".  So then I dove into the section about how the ADHD partner feels and I had to keep a box of Kleenex with me.  I felt so horrible.  I was also greatly to blame for the direction our relationship had gone in.  I grabbed a pad of sticky notes and a yellow highlighter and I assaulted the book, marking things that I wanted to remember or that matched me perfectly, and sections that addressed my fiance's possible feelings and attitudes about our situation.  I sat down with him and did just what Melissa said to do... I asked him to just tell me how he felt.  I wasn't trying to fix him or correct him or give him pointers on how to make it better.  I just listened.  Things that I had suspected he was feeling came out and things that I hadn't even known he was feeling came to light.  I couldn't believe how open he was being with me.  The man who would never talk about how he was feeling was speaking to me about his emotions.  He asked me to do the same and tell him how I was feeling.  And I did.  I told him about the frustration but also the realization that it wasn't just all his fault.  It was just as much mine.  We decided to read the book together and talk about it as we went through each chapter.  

    I have decided not to talk to him about getting treatment yet.  Maybe if our behavioral changes together can't make enough of a difference for us, we can talk about it in a pros vs. cons way and ask how he feels about it.  But my fiance from the very beginning has always been so committed to doing things to make this work.  We have had many talks in the past about his impulsive spending because I told him I couldn't trust him with his finances if he was doing that.  Or his inability to control himself from eating junk food, because I want our future kids to be able to see him as a role model and be healthy.  I had told him earlier on in our relationship that I didn't want to be the parent and take charge of everything because that wasn't a partnership, and I wanted him to feel like he had the reins too.  All of these talks resulted in changes being made (even if very slowly) immediately.  It didn't matter to me that a switch hadn't been flipped.  He was trying!

    Now, he is eating healthier.  The "C Student" is now kicking butt a the top of his class at the fire academy (he found a career that would be a great use of his energy and passion for helping people) to get into a career that he can support us with.  He is actually PLANNING out his expenses!  He saves his money and is talking about opening a savings account that he puts money into every month and never touches until we are ready to buy our house before the wedding.  We are making plans to get out of the house and do a little bit of traveling as something to do together without the stresses of being home.  He's saving money for these trips without me even saying anything.  He is actually advising his little brother on how to be smarter about his money!  I have learned to stop the nagging, share the load by giving him a little bit at a time, and just throw the Parent-Child dynamic in the trash all together.  I ask for him to explain why he is doing what he is doing instead of just assuming he is blowing off what I ask him to do.  Cause sometimes he did just forget (take a breath, it's okay!) but other times, he actually thought about it and what he is doing (in his mind) needs to be done first.

    It's still hard.  I give a couple minutes everyday to the worry that he will end the "hyperfocus courtship" after we are married.  But I know that thinking about it and worrying about it right now isn't going to make things better.  This is the first time that I have KNOWN without a doubt that I was meant to marry this man.  I can be just as frustrating on the other end of the spectrum as he is.  I know I am stubborn and scheduled and super-focused.  He reminds me to relax and enjoy life.  He encouraged me to be more flexible and roll with the punches.  He reminds me not to let the things I can't change bother me.  Anytime I am struggling or feeling down, he is there to make me laugh and feel loved and whole again.  He tries so very hard to make his ADHD affect us less and I notice it... and I appreciate it so much.  I know that I have some behavioral changes to make, too.  I will leave it up to him to pick where he wants to go on a vacation so that he is super focused and excited about it.  His excitement helps him to focus on tasking and I hand off the planning to him so that when the trip is all planned and we are there having a great time he looks back at it and say "Heck yeah, I made this happen."  I've learned the relax, take a breath, and stop assuming that he is being thoughtless or inconsiderate.  I give him the benefit of the doubt and let him share some of the load... because he wants to, he just struggles with it.  

    I know we have a lot more time before we have this down pat... but I know we can do it.  Whether he chooses to take medication or makes it work without it, I know we can have a great marriage.  One day, one patient moment, one conversation at a time.  I have so much hope for our future now.  Having a partner with ADHD wasn't exactly in my childhood dream of marriage, but I never pictured being married to someone who is so optimistic and energetic and situationally flexible, either.  I don't think that I would love him as much if he didn't have ADHD!

  • Sleeping with noises and light by: jennalemon 12 years 6 months ago

    I am trying to understand ADD better.  DH has tinnitus.  He says he needs to have the tv AND the radio on different channels loudly all night and all the lights on.   I would think that an ADD person would need the quiet to be calm.  Anyone else need to sleep with noises going on?  Or is this just a tinnitus thing?

  • "break up make up,text war" and (ANGER ISSUES) by: lovehurtsalotwi... 12 years 6 months ago

    My DH has the tendency to continue along the path of destroying our relationship with his (anger issues),I just cannot comprehend as to why he gets sooo mad over"Everything" it is hard and nerve recking enough already to deal with his ADHD, but the anger issues is the main problem with us.one example:

    I deal with the public everyday,that's in my job area where I serve the public,I met him while working one day, so he tends to feel that maybe I would meet a next person through my work criteria,he comes every morning during the week to get breakfast at my cafe,and then leaves,but everyday I dress almost the same,jeans and "white" top and a hat,so he somehow found the nerve to tell me through a text on Friday after our "big fight" that I am serving the public with tight jeans and tight top with make up on,ohhh,ho,,, I am sorry but what does he want me to wear?  he has got to be bluffing!!! I don't know but he says that his lose link in his chain ,is me looking like that in the public and that I could "pick up" like that,Lol, he is insane.

    Alright,so how it is that ,that was never a problem before,but suddenly "now", right,, I understand the concept between the two time zone the ADHD live's in "now and not now",but did that fall in to the same line,I really am not sure if anyone knows the answer to my question please answer.

    I don't really think that was the main cause for our big fight on Friday,it was clear to me that he was having financial problems at his work and then took it out on me,maybe he really wanted to tell me something about my dress attire, but could not do it in the "not now" time zone.Or maybe he was trying to play the "blame game" again,either which way he knows that he is "not" what I thought he would be ,so it builds fear that I would find someone else,while with him,true but I won't do that!

    Then suddenly I encountered that this is our 5 or 6 breakup over the 1 year of marriage,but we argue like every other 2 days over his "anger issues"that he brings ever so constant to the table,he texted me over this weekend after our "big fight" on Friday,and he would say weird things like this:

    this is Saturday he texted me all this:

    "I need to find someone to live with me here,you have your family, I don't have nothing/nobody"

    "you are young, you could move on with your life,I think we need to give it a rest"

    "I love you but can't live like a raccoon up here by my self"

    right so I texted him back and agreed that we needed to give the relationship a rest, and then a couple of hours will pass and he would text:

    this would be Sunday now next day,

    "I love you bi**h"

    "I am going fishing today to clear my head,I can't take the land lock,it is distracting me"

    "we could work it out,I just need to get back in the sea"

    Okay!!! it is clear to me that the time zone"now and not now" is the real deal when coming to ADHD,and that is really making me sick to my head! he can't make up his mind,he does not know what to say, how to say it, and what he should or should not do!! he is puzzle,in other words his meds is fishing,and he really can't do without the ocean.So then fish do whatever you need to help"you" that is important.But he gets so angry over "everything"
    such a simple thing like my dress code! I am very decent and I don't dress swanky for work,but jeans are made to fit tight,and he finds it to be tight,how typical.

    lovehurts.

  • What is the dividing line between support and enabling? by: PoisonIvy 12 years 6 months ago

    My spouse, who has ADHD, depression, and anxiety, seems to me to once again be floundering.  It became clear to me on one of his rare days at home (he spends several days a week at his elderly parents' home) that his symptoms are interfering with his well-being and functioning:  he is having problems sleeping, he doesn't get anything done when he's at home (I do all the chores), and his room is a mess.  There have been several instances of my spouse's treatment-resistant depression acting up over the years but I feel as though this time is a bit different, because the busy schedule that my husband has (spending time at his parents, where he accomplishes almost nothing for himself, and a part-time tutoring job, where he is paid to sit and wait for people to show up for help) disguises the fact that he can barely get anything done otherwise.  So, I'm not worried that he's going to plunge off the deep end but I do think that this is one of those times that a return to therapy is in order.  

    Now, to my question:  I want to be supportive but I don't want to enable this frustrating, floundering existence by doing things that make my spouse think that everything is hunky-dory.  How best to not enable him but to not abandon him either?  Thank you.

  • MOMs with ADHD by: NOVA1986 12 years 6 months ago

    I am happy to read your posts. All the posted it until now by women are married with ADDers, but this is a very important roll in women’s life, to be a MOTHER. My mother in Law it is not diagnosed, but I suspect she has ADD, She basically has the same basic discipline difficulties like my DH. She has difficulties of going to bed early,  waking up, getting up early (after 11 am or later) etc.

    For what my husband and she have been sharing with me through the years, it seems that also it was difficult for her to know what was her responsibilities as a mother and/or to use common sense. According to his own words this is the things I found them strange and non-sense:

    My husband as a baby was hyperactive and she use to give a bottle at what ever time at night to make him settle down. (It is know in evry culture after certain age if healthier for a baby/toddler to sleep at least 10 hours straight)
    She use to put sugar in his milk bottles and suggested me to do the same for my daughters. (My mother never put sugar in hour milk, its know for decade is bad for your teeth)
    It was hard for her to wake up early to make (his son/my husband) be on time to school.
    She use to travel a lot for pleasure and/or to visit his mother in Peru (between 2 weeks to 1 month and a half trip), leaving the kids sometimes on the care of church friends or neighbors. (My father-in-law use to be a pilot, so sometimes he couldn't be there for them either). This period of time with out her supervision helps some unfortunate events to happen in her kid’s life: My husband and his brother were sexually molested at the age of 8 and 6. My husband told me that he tried to let her know about it, but he remembers that she kind of ignored it, or try to don't make a big deal about it, wishing this event was erase in my husband tender mind of 8 years old. My sister-in-law later was a victim of his own brother (my husband) who also molested her in the same way he was about 4 year later of the event. That same girl had early experience with sex, alcohol and drugs. She is more or less 37 and it seems she is recovering; she is back in school, getting married for the first time, etc
    My husband also told me long time ago, that her mother use to be in the phone all the time, and that make him feel jealousy and angry.
    My husband parents were separated for 6 months when my husband was 12 or 13, and she allow a neighbor to hit on her, without taking the proper measures to hide this from her kids or husband.
    She complaints about his sexual life with her husband, alleging he doesn't know about foreplay, and being rude. Now this is a topic that we women talk a lot, and I seriously think sex is overrated. Hollywood, literature, Internet and other media are diminishing the real meaning of intimacy. I have 20 years of marriage and I came to marriage with no experience in this topic, but I learned that all in live is a lesson you learn, you practice, you make mistakes with your partner, you learn, and you continue practicing. One of the good things in my marriage is intimacy; I still enjoy it because I still do it with my still-husband (we are separated for a year now).
    Psychologist says that negative experience in live storage easier than good experiences. That is true, I sometimes, if I am watching a movie with some romance my first thought is about my husband, but then another thought hit my mind about my husband and all the girls he started an emotional affair, and how he maybe thinking about them when he is watching or if he watches the same movie. But it doesn't happen lately in our intimacy, it used to happen, but like another lesson to learn I have to block that thought and enjoy the only thing I know we share together, even if I am not in his mind.

    So I am not sure when girlfriends and other women complain about their partners way of acting in intimacy, and the lack of sexual pleasure. I think is all in our mind and heart, And if we do not have your partner in your heart and in your mind, very little we will get from it.

    Anyway, sometimes I think women come out with these statements to redeem themselves to satisfy their sexual needs. In my mother-in-law case, you can travel to Europe and South-America, or whatever other country or continent where she traveled alone and for sure she can tell you where to go to dance, gambling and shopping. (I am not against of dancing I love to dance, and shopping when I can pay cash, and gambling?, NOT REALLY. She loves to flirt and drink, I am not sure how far she had been after flirting and drinking in a nightclub far away from kids and husband, and I do not want to know.

    I remember my husband told me that she was in Peru with her sister (6 years old at the moment) and his father went to Peru to meet them and travel back with her. When his father showed up at home, he came with his daughter but my mother-in-law decided to stay even longer. My husband said that him and his brother started crying when they discovered their mom wasn't with them.
    My husband is living with his parents right now and he told me he found some pornography channels in their TV. I talked to my mother-in-law about finding a way to block these channels, to help my husband with his efforts to recover from pornography addiction. After listening to her about why this channel were there, she finished saying, that she will not change her life style for my husband. I wasn't talking about her lifestyle; I was talking about supporting his son.
    This particular event makes me worry about my daughters (12 and 14) whom sometimes expend nights there... I just worry about it and try to make as much excuse possible to not let them to visit them. Now, you can say kids learn a lot at school with friends, Internet, movies, etc. and that’s true. Nevertheless, I have a strong believe that if adults in the family keep a proper behavior, it will help them to develop a sense of security at home. Kids are going to try and make mistakes, but it is important to have a safe place were they can find themselves back.


    One day we were visiting my husband’s endocrinologist, who also has ADHD. He said that for him was really hard medicine school, and he was aware that he had to make 10 times more effort than his classmates to have good grades and he did. He wanted to be a doctor and he knew what to do. Now, the question is: Are women aware of the huge responsibility of being a mother? Is it possible to have ADHD and be a descent mother? At least, the kind of mother able to protect their kids from episodes like my husband and brother-in-law and sister went trough?

    My mother-in-law never work, it wasn't necessary her income in the family, and my father-in-law became the most dangerous enabler for his own family.

    I think it is hard to be a mother but it must be double hard to be a mother with ADHD/ADD, and the risks to take are to expensive, and the affects can last for ever in the kid’s life, and affect (like any other experiences in life) generations.

    I do not know what an ADD mother have to do to success as a mother, but prescription and cognitive therapy will help, along with reading good books about the topic, pray and find joy in the efforts they do to improve. The way to go is long, so we cannot get tired.

  • ADHD Husband argues with me over EVERYTHING by: momof2toddlers-... 12 years 6 months ago

    A little background:  My husband was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, but was never treated or medicated.  He finally went to a counselor and got on Adderall earlier this week, but I am already at a breaking point.  He took the Adderall for 3 days, said it was making him nervous and stopped taking it.  He now got Concerta called into the pharmacy, but it requires pre-authorization through our insurance so he won't have it until next week some time.  Over the course of our 8 year relationship, married for 5, he has been selfish, mean, verbally abusive, stayed out all night partying after our daughter was born, etc.  He has come a long way, but now he constantly argues with me and then says "you started it" like a 5 year old.

    I am the type of person who gets anxiety.  I hate conflict and avoid it at all costs.  How did I end up with a spouse who argues with me over everything?!  Here is an example of a ridiculous argument:  I work part-time evenings and all day Saturday.  I am at work and when I talked to my husband on the phone this morning I told him a friend had bought the kids McDonald's for lunch yesterday and please don't feed them fast food for lunch today.  He likes to get them Happy Meals on his Saturdays with them, but we limit the amount of fast food they eat to once every other week or so.  This is something we agreed on together, not something I suggested or mandated.  So when I asked him to not feed them McD's for lunch, he freaked out.  He said I am taking away his special "daddy day" and it's not fair to him.  He said I shouldn't tell him what to do.  He said he only gets this one day all day with them and I am ruining it.  I have learned over the years to not even bother to argue with him so I just said I'm going to get off the phone now.  He called back a half hour later and apologized for yelling at me, but then proceeded to tell me why I made him yell and what I did wrong.  In what I thought was a normal tone of voice said go ahead and feed them whatever you want, it's not that big of a deal and then he got angry AGAIN!  He told me I don't understand anything and I never get the point and then hung up on me.  This is a typical argument over NOTHING!  This happens every single day of my life.  Everything is my fault, I don't say things right, I made a weird face, I dont' know how to talk to people, I picked the wrong time to talk about something, I'm stupid.  He'll even tell the kids "mommy is stupid" sometimes.  I am calm, I do not yell and I do not let him rile me up anymore, I haven't in a long time.  But it's always all my fault.  I don't know how much longer I can take it.  I am walking on eggshells and even when I think I said something completely benign and ordinary, I get accused or attacked.  I just had to get this out.  Sometimes I think I'm the one going crazy or I start to believe that maybe I really don't know how to talk to people.  Does anyone else deal with this?  Is there a way to resolve it, or am I destined to eventually say enough is enough and get divorced?

     

  • What a difference a week makes! by: KYLEEJO25 12 years 6 months ago

    I'm happy to say that my bf and I have had a wonderful week together.  This doesn't sound like a huge feat, but trust me it is.  We usually can't go more than two days without getting in an argument where hurtful things are said.  We have been taking care of each other, snuggling, working together, and saying nice things to each other this whole week.  It makes me feel very close to him and reminds me of why we are still together.  I know we really love each other and both want to make things work.  The test will be tonight.  We are going out with my family and they are surprising me with something for my birthday that is coming up.  I know there will be a few cocktails consumed and that is when we usually fall apart.  Wish me luck!!

  • contemplating!! analyzing!!! thinking of calling it quits!!! by: lovehurtsalotwi... 12 years 6 months ago

    I am analyzing and contemplating what to do,I am feeling like calling it quit's.I am realizing that he is not "just"ADHD,but also a train of disorder's!! I read and read online and books also, I have been doing researches and so far I have come up with this:

    ADHD,ODD,OCD and many more,a train of disorders,my husband has a lot of "bad"qualities in him where he steals a lot,shop lifted and many more,lies,curses non-stop,addicted to substance abuse(crack) at once and now (marijuana),abandoned his kids,the last child was only 2 and a half years(a baby),anti-social,high anger tantrums,mood swings,compulsive spending,impulsivity,restlessness,chronic procrastination,chronic boredom,addictive to high sexual behaviors,Ex:porn,watching other women,I found out from him how many women he had S with,,, and you would not like to know the number's he came up with OMG!!! and he thinks that's normal OMG!!!,drinks hard/heavy ,but not everyday though only to self-medicate his problems,picks fights,complains,blurts out weird untimely things like"anywhere anytime"in the presence of people loud,no control over behavior,acts like a clown in public,the grocery,"anywhere",selfish,pick fights constantly"with me" especially if someone ruined his day in work or he could not get his way,talks excessively,he burns out my ear bell!!! chronic forgetfulness,sleeping problems "every night",always late for "work" or to early home,drives crazy when distracted,chronic distractibility OMG!!! I could go on and on but I will stop now!!!!

    All the above mentioned has been going on for the past one year and four months of our entire marriage,and I have heard from his Mother he has always been so and worse as a kid,or never really changed,now he is 47,well he was married before to a woman who was very to her self and just use to do as he says,they were married for 10 or 12 years, I can't say for sure,but he had lots of other serious relationships before his first marriage, maybe around 5 or 6, then after his divorce or while he was going through divorce he met his second child's mother,and they were on and off for 5 to 6 years, but during that period I analyzed that he had lots of affairs,probably around 20 or more,him and his second child's mother was co-de pendant,NOT LOVE he told me, so he used her to look after the house while he run around stimulating/self-medicating himself from the first divorce(cheating),bringing the "baggage"into the last relationship with his child's mother,she had lots of problems also"child abuse and child molestation" so she would self-medicate hard on pills and liquor, he said that to me.Now seeing things from this point and analyzing ALL THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS,it would take a reborn for him to make a come back,there is "no hope" for us,he has to many PROBLEMS,I don't think meds would help if he don't make up his mind to leave the past in the past and he has not done that at all.

    I will have no choice but to end it!!! this would take more than therapy,meds to help him,it will take forever to help him make a come back to normality,he has a bad reputation at our "state"people have been talking about him a lot and questioning my dad about my acquaintance with him.I have love for him,but this would never end, and I deserve to be loved back!!! in the way I give it!!! I have not really saw where he love's me the way I do!! maybe he does but he has sooo much "underlying problems" I don't think a serious relationship is what he needs!! maybe a girlfriend but not a wife,I tried to be that also but that too has not worked. This might be our last!! I am not sure b/c he would come sobbing and I would feel sorry and go back.anyone with advice please share it with love hurts I am confused!! thank you!

    lovehurts

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