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  • My three children! Two by birth, the other I married. by: controlfreak 14 years 10 months ago

    After fight number... humm let's see, no I can't tell you because I have lost count it has been so frequent,  my husband's final words to me were, "all I want you to do is read the book".  So a trip to the book store and several online hours later here I am at Dr. Hallowell and Ms. Orlov's door, hoping and praying there is a light in this tunnel and that something is going to help me find the patience to deal and accept that my husband has this diagnosis.

    Everyone on this site has already said what I feel; it is infuriating to be forgotton or overlooked by your spouse,  it is exhausting to have to do everything by yourself to make-up for your partner's disease, and it is hurful to know that a person you love and care for feels negatively about themselves.  I have nothing new to add to the complaint department.  But I am wondering what resources are there for me.  I am incredibly loving and tolerant and understanding (at least that is what I tell myself) but what I am not, at least yet, is patient.  I am critical, I am judgemental, I am aggresive and I am demanding. 

    From what I have read it seems natural that my husband chose me to continue to fullfill the role of oppressor to his ADHD life that he has been playing everyday since he was born.  In one of Dr. Hallowell's books he said something about the ADHD person will seek out a spouse similar to that of a bad fifth grade teacher.  I can tell you that professionally I am a teacher, and I am a great one, but I know that many times, I will not extend to my husband the same respect and courtesy that I give to my students.  Somehow I have in my head that because he is an adult and older that he should know better and do better.  I know that if he could choose he would not choose to have ADHD, and to his credit, he was only diagnosed this year, he is 42 and he very willingly agreed to take meds for ADHD and depression.  I give him a lot of credit for that, becasue I know it was a hard decision, but I still want more.

    I want him to be more attentive to me, I want to feel cherished by him, I want to feel like he is my equal at home and willing to step up and do things to help run the house.  And I want to not feel bitterly angry when he doesn't do the things I ask or need him to do. I want to be more patient with him, I want to know that things will get better as long as we are still comitted to making this work, but I want to know that he is going to do some of that work and it won't fall all to me.  I need to knwo how to back off and trust him a little and allow him the opportunity to step it up. 

    So yes, I appreciate that there are books and manuals and magazines and talkshows devoted to ADHD, but what I really want is to find the manual about me.

  • Struggling with lack of results by: Sueann 14 years 10 months ago

    All progress for us has stopped. I am trying so hard to accept that, as the spouse of an ADDer, I do not matter. All is about him, his meds, his needs, how I speak to him so as not to damage his self-esteem, etc. No one takes care of me. No one cares if I have to climb in and out of my car from the passenger's side because we can't afford to fix my car, and never will.

    He went back to work when he got treatment and I'm grateful for that. But he can't understand that, since it hurts me to walk, I don't want to do all the housework, I don't really want to take care of all the family needs.

    How does treatment address doing household tasks or being willing to share the tv? How can a pill make him remember that he's turned the burner on to melt stuck-on grease and he needs to turn it off before it burns? How can medication help him remember where he left MY GPS?

    Our marriage counselors didn't think this kind of issue was worth addressing, so they "fired" us. How can we make progress in these areas? Or is that just too much to expect? Should I just keep doing everything and expecting nothing?

  • Dealing with despondency by: jules 14 years 10 months ago

    My husband was diagnosed about six months ago, and has been taking meds, which seems to help.  We have been on a bit of a rollercoaster ride since then - coming to grips with this has not been easy on both of us (not least because for about a year before the diagnosis, I was at my wits' end, and wondering how much more of the marriage I could take). 

    We had a discussion this afternoon where my husband mentioned that he's just tired of dealing with all this, with having to try so hard to cope with ADD.  He said something along the lines of, "I didn't ask for this.  I am trying really hard to make progress, and it just seems that everything that is wrong with our marriage is because of the ADD".  I understand that this is maybe just a phase of coming to terms with it, but his despondency is not easy for me to deal with.  Paraplegics also didn't ask for it either, but they learn to deal with their disabilities.  ADD is the same thing - he's got it, and if he doesn't want it to continue affecting his life negatively, he needs to learn to deal with it.  We've started reading Dr Hallowell's book "Delivered from Distraction", and in it he stresses that ADD is only a disorder if you don't learn how to stop it from negatively affecting your life. 

    No, he didn't ask for this condition.  And no, I didn't ask to be married to someone with ADD.  But we need to learn how to adjust and cope.  I just don't know how to communicate this to him without him continuing to feel sorry for himself.  I decided not to bring up the paraplegic example, since I wasn't sure how he would take it - often when I do things like that it actually makes the situation worse.  I think I probably sound like a stuck record when I keep saying, "life's not fair, you need to accept that and work with it."

  • I promise by: frtywon 14 years 10 months ago

    that most of this is miscommunication. I have this boyfriend that I put on a pedestal, or so I do in my eyes. I'm scared he's forgotten me up there. I've been uncontrollable, and in fits of terror and paranoia, I've said things I don't mean. And I've gotten him to the point where he is angry and I don't think he likes me anymore. And I want to say that I promise, how you see me, maybe alot of it is this ADD, but I promise some of it is miscommunication.

    I put him on a pedestal, and I look up to him hoping he looks down at me and gifts away to me a genuine smile, the one I used to see beaming with care for me, uncontrollable, too long ago to count; now the best I receive is a controlled, forced half-smile, awkward and falliable in quickness. And I smile hard up at him anyway, genuine and hopeful, until time and dry reactions plummet me into despair, and my smile droops quivering while my eyes melt pleading for the love to come back, albeit already grieving the loss that snuck away crumb by crumb, time upon time ago, as his disbelief in me as a kind-hearted person inflates.

    His eyes, that now, if I catch them for a bit when he, with exhausted annoyance, grinds out a comment or two, eminate a sour passivity, however bland, burdened, emptied of passion, dried of care, obsolete of a promise he dismissed as fiction. And in turn, my reactions turn more and more towards stark fright, pushing him away too afraid to hurt over again.

    I brought this on myself without conscious awareness. His reactions are mine to blame. Now it feels like I'm in a cave collapsed rock trap, coercing through cracks in the blocked path, love that he can't see anymore and words that he doesn't hear anymore. And aren't believed anymore; he's sorting through me, am I a myth landslide or a trusted prediction of improvement.

    I dance around at the bottom of his pedestal, trying to show him my ability to progress, just as readily as to fall out under, out of touch, at a glimpse of him giving up.

    Well, I miss you. I miss you so much. I'm in pain missing you. I'm in so much pain missing you. Why did God put us together only for us to fall apart? That doesn't make sense. does it 

    I miss you. I want to hold you. I want to see you smile. I want to make you smile. I want to wipe away the things that I did to hurt you. I want to shut off my anxiety and depression and ADD forever for you. I miss you. Ok? I miss you. And it hUrts.

    Why would God put us together only for us to fall apart? I know you might despise me now, but I still miss you anyway. I cling to the times I see in my head with you smiling so bright your eyes squeeze and your nose wrinkles at the top and you’re proud and certain of me and you’re happy I see your efforts.

    I’m limp now. I want to make you happy but my mind keeps catching on the fact that I may never be good enough for you to marry. I’m scared. I know I should let you go for your own good of not being hurt anymore, but every time I do, I look in the mirror and can’t see me without you. All I can see are swollen puddles of grief spilling out of my eyes lost in a dream of the times we were laughing and looking at each other before this wreck without wondering. And without fearing. When you could look at me and be so happy and content.

    I miss you. I pray that you'll stop being angry at me one day. I miss you. You know how you say I'm an emotional wreck? Well all that intensity I have for bad emotions, I have even more intensity for missing you. My stomach's a black hole pit and my heart's ripped drowning into the bottom of it's infinity. Feels like the pain of drowning without ever getting to the point of passing out, over and over, consistently again. I can't catch a breath long enough to figure out how to become complacent, still, and able to do anything without being reminded of you. And looking at the picture of you on my table smiling, and feeling my body numb falling apart, emptying on the floor raggedy because the missings too deep to explore or resolve that I may not be able to see your smile everyday in my life.

    Do you understand? Will you ever hear me? I know sometimes it's irrational to hear me, but maybe you can just hear me now? please?

    I love you without any condition of if you love me back.

    I guess that's all I came to say.

     

     

  • ADD/ADHD Career Seminar in NYC (Manhattan) by: jennifer1788 14 years 10 months ago

     

    Manhattan Adult ADD Support Group Hosts Career Seminar With Author/Entrepreneur Michael Laskoff

    MAADD Support Group hosts Michael Laskoff, author of Landing on the Right Side of Your Ass: A Survival Guide for the Recently Unemployed, from 6:15 to 9 p.m. June 10 at Seafarers & International House, 123 East 15th Street, NYC

     

    While Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder has been known to cause complications finding and maintaining work, there are some tips to combat the difficulties.

     

    In fact, many of the skills needed to find the right job spin off techniques used to manage ADD. If anyone knows this, it’s Michael Laskoff, a Harvard Business School graduate and entrepreneur who has ADHD himself.

     

    Laskoff, author of Landing On the Right Side of Your Ass: A Survival Guide for the Recently Unemployed, has capitalized on a mix of unpleasant experiences to land jobs with more satisfaction, increased responsibility and better compensation.

     

    He’ll be sharing his experiences during a Manhattan Adult Attention Deficit Disorder Support Group from 6:30 to 9 p.m. June 10, Seafarers & International House, 123 East 15th Street, NYC.

     

    MAADD has offered support, information and a sense of community to the New York Metropolitan area for 18 years. They host regular meetings, requesting a $5 contribution from attendees.

     

    Laskoff has ended up in unfortunate situations himself, but has managed to move up the career chain. He co-founded The Branded Asset Management Group, which helps large marketers utilize their profit potential in existing brands. He also worked in senior marketing and strategy for Bertlesmann, McKinsey & Co., CompUSA and several early commerce businesses.

     

    Laskoff is now the CEO of his own company, AbilTo, which uses videoconference to offer evidence-based therapy to people battling prevalent, treatable behavioral disorders – such as ADHD, panic disorder, and postpartum depression.

     

    He is also a regular blogger on Huffington Post, an online columnist for BusinessWeek and on National Public Radio. For more information on Laskoff and his company, visit www.abilto.com.

     

    The Seafarers & International House is located on the northeast corner of 15th and Irving Place. Directions can be found by entering either of the following addresses into www.maps.google.com: 123 E. 15th St., New York, NY 10003.

     

    Questions regarding this event may be directed to MAADD (845) 278-3022, or via e-mail at maaddsg@aol.com.

     

    For further information on MAADD, visit www.maaddsg.org.

     

  • Facts by: Nettie 14 years 10 months ago

    I would like to vote for more careful commenting, for example, not haphazardly stating a forum member's possible medical detail, which may in fact be false. I move fast, and I know I've made mistakes in my wording, but I do try to identify when I'm quoting someone (by using quotation marks) and when I'm writing my opinion or perception.

    There are some definitely more learned individuals on this forum than I, and it's a challenge for some of us, like me, to express ourselves as effectively and to follow every post in order to prevent erroneous information being passed along. I suggest we limit our comments to include only our own experiences and/or documented studies or at least state when we can't back up a comment.

  • Can they change? by: hope09 14 years 10 months ago

    My husband and I have been separated for almost 2 months.  He pretty much abandoned me and all responsibility.  I had no choice but to check out and go into survival mode to take care of me.  I was left with no choice other then to detach myself from him so that's what I did.  Now he's begging to be with me, being the nice, gentle, affectionate, attentive.  The man I saw I got glimpses of when we first met. 

    My mind knows its temporary.  I know he will revert back to his crazy ways and hate me once again.  I know he will spiral out of control and say that he can't be with me nor can he control his impulses.  My heart wants to believe the sincerity and save the marriage because I do love him and miss him.  It's like my heart is blocking out all the bad AND it was really really really bad, destructive and toxic.

    Can someone with ADHD change or improve?  I just need to hear what I already know from other people I guess.

  • Need Help Staying Positive by: Hoping4More 14 years 10 months ago

    I need help figuring out how to stay positive and not remark on the negative all the time.

    A common example has to do with grocery shopping - about the only chore she still does routinely (often with reminding from me, but still . . . )  Anyway, I make the shopping list, and she often doesn't get what is on the list - or gets way too much of something (e.g. strawberries which we can't possibly eat ibefore they start going bad) or not enough of something (e.g. one bunch of broccoli which won't even last one day).  I have asked her several times to buy what's on the list.  I usually put quantities as well as items.  And I have asked her NOT to get something if it's not on the list.  When I say something to her, like - honey, I didn't put strawberries on the list, she'll say - I thought you said we were out of them.  This no matter how many times I say to her - if it's not on the list, please don't get it.  (Which she always acts as if she is hearing it for the first time.)

    So my question is, what do I do/say in these situations?  Do I just thank her for going to the store, and then ask her to go again the next day, or go myself the next day, to get what's needed?  Is there some way I might get her to do a better job sticking to what's on the list?  Nothing I have tried so far seems to work, including being very specific re: brand, size, quantity, etc.

    Or when she does the laundry and everything comes out wrinkled because she forgets there are clothes in the dryer, doesn't hear the timer, hears the timer but ignores it, or whatever, do I just thank her for doing the laundry and then iron everything, when if I had done the laundry I wouldn't have had to iron a single item?  My solution has been to take on doing the laundry myself, but when my schedule doesn't allow me to do it and she offers to do it for me, I usually say no, rather than ending up with all wrinkled clothes.  Once she even promised me she would take the clothes right out of the dryer and when she didn't and I said somethng about the wrinkled clothes, she said there is something wrong with the washer/dryer, so I have not "let" her do my laundry since then.

    Or when she tells me she will do something and then does it halfway - like clean up the kitchen after I have cooked a meal (and believe me, there's not much to clean up because I clean up after myself as I go), so that I have to go behind her, do I just say thank you and be glad she did even some of the cleanup, and then just finish cleaning myself, or do I mention that she didn't wipe the stove, put all the dishes into the dishwasher, left some things on the table, etc?

  • What really motivates ADHDers? by: ExitSpeed 14 years 10 months ago

     

    One of the posts on this forum opened up so much for me. I now understand why my wife (the ADHDer) does the things she does. I thought she wasn't interested in me, but I now know that's not the case. She matches ALL these symptoms described by many on this forum. Thank you so much.

    I have a couple of questions to try and understand her better, hopefully someone has had a good experience with their ADHD spouse:

    1. My wife leaves things unfinished, so many of them, except for when her mom or immediate family members ask. Then she gets in this frenzy and dedication to finish it. Any reason why I dont have this effect on her?

    2. What is it that causes her to not want to be close to me? is it that she has too many thoughts going on in her head? is it that she's just not able to focus on me? what can make her non-ADHD spouse less attractive to her than all the errands she runs around to accomplish? I guess what I'm also asking in the question is: what are the types of tasks that keep an ADHD person's attention and interest?

    3. What exactly in ADHD causes you to get EASILY frustrated with tasks that so many others can easily accomplish?

    Any suggestions?

    thanks so much!

    ExitSpeed (no I'm not exiting anything speedily :) )

  • How do I deal with my life being about him and not me? by: Sueann 14 years 10 months ago

    I've been struggling the last few days. We actually had a good day Memorial Day, involving more walking than is comfortable for me, but I give in because my husband and dog love it. We don't fight when we're out of the house because there is nothing that is undone.

    But I am realizing that the point of being the spouse of an ADDer is to "fix" their lives, to make it possible for them to live "their best life" at whatever cost to the spouse. Because I manage money so well, he doesn't have to. He's not a wild spender like a lot of ADDers but he makes so little (in an entry-level job at 48) that there isn't enough money to meet his needs and mine. He doesn't know anything about the bank account (which was mine before marriage), I just tell him how much is in it if he asks. He insists on eating lunch out every day because he's on the road and can't keep food. And, let's face it, he's never going to understand how to clean or anything like that. He just never learned those skills.

    The driver's side door fell off my car today, just after $130 worth of work on it. I had to tell the body guy to wire it closed and I'll just climb in and out the passenger seat because there is no more money to replace it, which is what's needed. His car (required by his job) is a 2003 and we pay $400 a month for it. My car is a 1992 and I paid $500 for it. He needs it for work but I can get by with a car that's 18 years old.

    His meds cost $130 a month after our insurance. It's our biggest expense after the rent and his car. Now he's seeing a new doctor who wants to see him every week ($50 co-pay per visit) because he isn't sure of his diagnosis. Even after that, he'll want to see him every month. I need surgery but we can't afford the $4000 deductible, so I just continue to suffer. I feel like I don't exist. I'm just throwing myself into the bottomless pit known as ADD treatment.

    Every day I get calls about bills we can't pay (medical bills not covered by his insurance or bills from when he wasn't working). He never even hears them because he can't remember the password for our phone. I crave owning a house, but our credit is so shot we'll never get a mortgage. I know compared to many of the ladies on here, whose husbands are crazy wild spenders (which fortunately, mine never was) or abusive, or drunks, that being poor seems minor. But I supported him for 3 years while he didn't work. When do I get my turn?

    He loves his job and isn't going to get fired from it like he did 7 times from other jobs. It isn't his fault the insurance is lousy, most insurance is these days. I'm proud of him for working at a very difficult job. I'm in school and maybe when I graduate I'll get my own insurance, but I wouldn't be able to take the time off to have surgery. So how do I face the idea that my life is about keeping his head above water while I'm drowning?

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