To the list of fantastic ADHD books already recommended, I'd like to add one not specific to, but perhaps helpful for ADHD challenges: "Positivity..." by Dr. Barbara Fredrickson. The author explains the results of her studies (she's at UNC) and others that support how a certain ratio of positivity to negativity (not a "Polly Anna" response) is effective for expanding one's opportunities for success. I am not a scientist and have not read the referenced studies, but it seems worth further exploration.
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- Other Books by: Nettie 15 years 2 days ago
- Dealing with "I Can't" by: Sueann 15 years 3 days ago
I am frustrated dealing with my husband who has both ADD and depression (both treated with meds). He has this "I can't" mentality that drives me nuts. Whenever I need/want him to do somthing that's outside his comfort zone he'll say he can't.
"Honey, can yo help me put the new car seat covers on my car?" "I can't figure them out". They sat for months until the next time i had my car worked on, and my mechanic did if for free. "Honey, can you find out why the lamp isn't working? Does it need a new bulb or is it unplugged?" "I can't move the bookcase to check the plug." (he doesn't have to, he just has to LOOK, but I can't fit in the space where you can see if from. Etc., etc., you get the idea.
The worst is "I can't hang up the clothes, there's no room in the closet." But he won't even think about taking the out of season clothes out and putting them elsewhere.
What happens is I have to do something I'm realy not physically equiped to do (I've got mobility issues) or something it's totally reasonable for him to do. It's one of the biggest frustrations I've ever had being married to someone with ADD. Do any of you have any bright ideas?
- Stunned silent. by: Guardian 15 years 4 days ago
I am the ADHD spouse, my husband is not, and has very little experience with others who have ADHD. I don't tend to have as many issues with the Inattentive symptoms as I've developed a lot of coping mechanisms for these issues from when I was younger, but the Hyperactive and Impuslive symptoms I still struggle with. Sitting still for long periods of time, thinking before I speak, and so on. But really, I've gotten a good hang of listening over the last few years so that isn't really a problem. It's not talking I have a problem with either, I can make conversation and keep it going, but I don't feel like I've communicated how I actually feel about anything thats related to me in a long, long time.
He works a LOT - which is to be expected from an Army Lieutenant- but I feel like we haven't really communicated at all. I tend to get upset about things and then be incapable of explaining why I'm upset. Once I get angry or hurt, my whole communication centers shut down - I'll think about it long and hard and talk to him about it later - but it seems like if I'm not outwardly expressing the emotions that I'm TELLING HIM I felt then it doesn't sink in. I can't talk while I'm upset, so I have to wait till I've calmed down, and so he sees someone calm and collected explaining how hurt I was and it's like he doesn't buy it. It's made talking about anything seem completely futile.
There have been a few things that have happened lately that give me the impression that he no longer values me -especially when compared to work. I've tried to mention this and he simply gets offended or tells me it must be in my head. He spent 7 hours of my birthday playing a 1 player video game, for example. I'm also in the process with being diagnosed with Lupus (or something similar), and he has not been supportive with that at all.
Best example I can think of though is 2 weeks ago when I needed to go to the ER at 3am for a chemical burn in both of my eyes (I work in a lab, and should be more careful) while he was at work - he refused to leave work to go with me to the ER. He said he wouldn't be able to, was legally obligated to stay there, and so on and so forth and why don't I just call an ambulance. The point being it wasn't about transportation to the hospital, it was that it was a distressing and turned out to be very traumatic and excruciating experience(look up Morgan Lens Irrigation), and he didn't even make an attempt to leave work. I know he could have left, because he's had to fill in for other people who have had to leave early in that situation before. I know he probably would have had to call a fellow Lieutenant or his Captain to come in for him, and they probably wouldn't have picked up - but he didn't even try.
These examples, and many others, have just sort of made me feel like I can't really count on him at all - that I don't really have anyone to lean on. I've spent years not leaning on anyone but myself, and that's fine, but it makes me wonder what the point of being married to someone is when I'm just going it all alone anyways. I can't figure out any way to talk to him about any of this either, because if I say anything about being unhappy he takes it very personally and just gets offended and taken aback that I would ever think such a thing. I just don't know what to do to communicate better about how I'm feeling, with him specifically.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
- In defense of men with ADD by: chewbacca 15 years 6 days ago
I have ADD, so what. I provide for my wife, I hold down a good job, I am faithful, I don't abuse drugs or alcohol, there are few fathers that love their daughter more than me, but being married seems impossible. I love my wife very much, I hate marriage. My wife and I have been married for 5 years. I started being treated with meds for ADD about 7 months ago, and I swear things are worse. I hate being on meds. The fact that I need to take something to be "normal" is about the most emasculating thing I have ever gone through. The meds are not working or I wouldn't have found this site and try to get some help. Im not looking for medication advice. I have a good Doc who also has ADD and we are gonna figure it out. I know that for being married to someone like me is difficult. But I see women stay married to non-add men who treat them like crap, or are abusive, and my marriage is in trouble because I forget to take out the trash, or get distracted easily, and I'm impulsive. That doesn't make sense to me, or any other guy with ADD. I believe that my ADD is a problem. I don't think it is fair for spouses to take it personally. When my wife tells me that I make her feel that I don't love her. My response is "are you kidding me!" In the 5 years of our marriage we have seen all the problems of my ADHD. My ADD contributed to an infidelity in our marriage. We got through it and moved on. I love my wife but I feel like she is trying to make someone with no legs walk on their hands. I can and do handle my add with meds and have a lot of better days. But it is tough, I can only walk on my hands for so long. Ran out of Time will post more soon.
- At End of My Rope by: vbug2010 15 years 1 week ago
I'm new to the forum, but I've been coming to this site for about a year now to read advice on dealing with my ADHD husband (I do not have ADD/ADHD). We've been together for over 12 years (since high school) and the past several years have been total rollercoaster rides. We have always had very rocky times, but when he was finally diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago, things got a little better because we both knew what was causing these problems. His ADHD manifests itself in extreme forgetfulness, lack of ambition/motivation, disregard for other people's feelings (especially mine), hyperfocus, defensiveness, anger, and general scattered everything. To top things off, he's also OCD, and suffers from bouts of depression, anxiety, and paranoia.
He categorically refuses to take medicine, which I am fine with, and he hates counseling because "they don't do anything". But he also doesn't do anything to manage his ADHD on his own, and believe me, I have made EVERY EFFORT possible to set him up for success and gently give him suggestions for ADHD management. Just like I've read here so many times, his intentions are always the best in the world, especially after an argument, but the follow-thru is zero and he feels he deserves credit for basically, trying to try. The best he's done is to try something for two days, like a calendar or a diary, then give it up because he thinks he doesn't need it. And if I suggest he keep working at it, I'm a nag.
We've been to couple's counseling a couple of times, the last time was almost 2 years ago. Since then, we've had a couple of blowouts and came to an understanding that basically, he needs to improve his communication style (very demanding, judgmental, defensive) and "use his words" so that I can understand what he needs emotionally and mentally. And in turn, I would express myself calmly and logically so that he can understand what I need emotionally and mentally.
It sounds great, but it just never seems to take hold and we keep fighting all the time. I feel disrespected, taken for granted/taken advantage of, disregarded, unloved, lonely, and fully responsible for both of our lives. Luckily, there are no children in the picture. I feel like I'm his mother and I'm so tired of it. I'm a graduate student taking a full-time load and he is a full-time freelancer who works from home, so we're always in each other's faces too. I'm crazy-busy, and then he occupies so much of my free time emotionally that I'm just spent. I'm always having to talk him down from a fit of anxiety or paranoia (he's really angry and bitter sometimes - for no reason at all), or give him a pep talk, and I double-check all of his business affairs to make sure everything looks good. He loves what he does and he's good at it, but actually getting up each day and putting in a full-time effort is a struggle. It's a little frustrating to know that if he worked harder, we would be better off financially, but I'm not that concerned about money right now.
I'm just so, so exhausted from all of this. I love him and he really is a good man, but he is SO difficult to live with. He knows that, but does very little to make our relationship worth it for me. I see no effort on his part and our conversations go nowhere anymore. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall and he immediately gets very angry and defensive if I don't "forgive" him right away. After 12 years, "I'm sorry" or "I'll try" don't cut it anymore. I can't help but feel that I could be really happy by myself or with someone who doesn't have ADHD. I sometimes wish we hadn't gotten married at all and that I'd broken it off one of the many times in high school when he was acting out. I feel really guilty too because I do love him so much and want things to work. I also feel selfish for thinking all of these negative things, but I've never been emotionally fulfilled or had a true equal partnership...and I don't think I ever will with him.
He knows all these things...we've been over them thousands of times. I don't mind paying all the bills, remembering everything household-wise, managing our schedules or any of that. But I can't do all of that for him and go on feeling so emotionally unfulfilled forever. I know divorce is the easy way out, but my life has been much harder than necessary for 12 years now. I don't know what to do anymore, so I thought I would post here. Sorry it's so jumbled...thank you for reading.
- Trying to find a new way to get through to my ADHD spouse by: sapphyre 15 years 1 week ago
I hope the authors of this blog don't mind me recommending a book that I have found really helpful... and I haven't even finished reading yet :)
It's called 'Just Listen' by Mark Goulston. It's about turning yourself around to a different point of view... where instead of trying to get your point across, you try and understand the other person's issues. My hubby loves and trusts me, but when I use certain tactics to try to get my message across, he gets defensive and paranoid that I am trying to push my own agenda.
It has helped me stop yelling and have a much more loving attitude. I live in hope that in time my husband will be able to explain to me why he won't go to therapy (he has had very bad experiences with this in the past, but that's not enough), and whether he has a problem managing his pain killers, or he's simply just not getting enough pain relief for his physical issues.
One thing I've considered is that I am (almost) always patient and loving with our kids (one of whom has ADHD, and the other is six, argh!), because they are kids, and they are emotional, and their brains are still developing. (ADHD readers please don't be offended by what I'm about to say.) I've realised that my hubby is also emotional and his brain doesn't have all the same neural pathways as mine... I love him, so I should be able to be as patient and loving with him, as I am with our kids. (But darn, I can't use the 1-2-3 Magic! techniques on him :P)
I should mention, hubby and I both believe I'm also ADHD, but my symptoms are much less severe, and my parents did a better job loving and supporting me when I was growing up. (I used to think I couldn't have ADHD because I set goals and reached them, did well at school, etc. But Dr Hallowell is living proof that you can be functional and have ADHD.)
I hope this helps others. I'd be interested in your feedback, whether you are ADHD or non-ADHD.
- Environmental component by: Wonderfun 15 years 1 week ago
Hi. My husband haas ADHD that was diagnosed at age 33. We now have two kids, ages 4 and 2. I have read on this site that there is a strong environmental component, but I don't really know what that means specifically. What I'm wondering, are there things I can do in our household that would help my children at this stage? Neither has a diagnosis and I don't have any particular concerns. If there's anything I can do to help them, (not get ADHD? present more mildly? cope with it if they ever are diagnosed?) I want to do it.
I would also be interested in hearing what I should be watching for in my children. In so many things, the earlier people are diagnosed the better, so I don't want them to go until age 33 before they find out they have ADHD.
Thanks!
- Intent vs. Action by: Hoping4More 15 years 1 week ago
I have aquestion for non-ADDers: How do you respond when you spouse tells you she meant to do something, but in fact, didn't? I'm not talking about a situation in which she forgot to do something she said she was going to do. I'm talking about something else.
The kind of situation I am talking about here is one where she has actually heard me that I would appreciate it if she sometimes would do some of the things that I usually do - like get the morning coffee, empty the dishwasher, start the laundry, etc., and she intends to do one of these things before I do it, but then I do it before she gets to it.
So she'll say something like "Oh, *I* was going to get the coffee this morning" when I bring her coffee, or "Oh shoot, *I* was going to empty the dishwasher" when she sees me emptying the dishwasher. So I hear that she would like to do these things for me once in awhile (and I believe her), but she hasn't been able to turn the intent into an action.
Sometimes my response is a genuine appreciation of "well, at least she was thinking of it and that means she heard what I said". Sometimes it's more of a sarcastic thought of "oh that's nice, a lot of good her thinking about it did." And sometimes, when she implies that it is my fault she didn't do it, because I'm just too fast in doing it myself and so I didn't give her a chance to do it, (or when she actually tells me she would have done it if only I wasn't so quick to do it) it actually pisses me off.
I have never responded to those kinds of statements because I'm just not sure what to say.
- My Wife is Always So Stressed by: Hoping4More 15 years 1 week ago
It seems that my wife is always stressed. Whether it is because she takes too much on, has trouble planning her time, procrastinates, doesn't know when things she is doing are "good enough" or a combination of all of these (which I suspect), the fact is, she is always very stressed. I, on the other hand, am almost never stressed. I have arranged my life so that I have minimal stress. I know how to say no and set limits, and I am a very good judge of what I can accomplish in a given amount of time, know how to build in "cushions" for the unexpected, etc. Balance of work, church, getting together time, quality time with my wife, and down time is very important to me, and usually I am usually able to achieve it.
My issue is - my wife's stress is causing ME stress, and I'm not sure what to do about it. If I could just detach and let her be stressed, I would. That is very difficult, though, because she often yells when she is frustrated. Not at me necessarily, but she just yells. Just this second - she is doing something on her computer in the other room and something frustrated her and she yelled "This guy is an IDIOT!" I can't help but hear her when she does this, and it really bothers me to hear her yelling. I have asked her not to do it, and I'm pretty sure she is doing less of it, but she just can't seem to help herself and she still yells too much from my point of view.
Or she snaps at me when I say something to her, if I ask her what she is working on, or offer to help, or whatever. I'm usually pretty good at ignoring when she does this, but not always. Earlier tonight, when she was working on something and was telling me about some other things she had to do, I asked "Did you send that email to so and so yet? She snapped "No! I didn't have any time today." So I said - "I'd be happy to send it." She again snapped how that wouldn't work because . . . . I said something like "I wish you wouldn't snap at me. I was just trying to help." She said "I know you were. I'm sorry." And so it feels like I have to walk on egg shells all the time.
And then while I was making dinner, I had to listen to her rant and rave in frustration. When I asked her to please not yell, because it bothered me and I couldn't leave the room because I was making dinner, her reply was "You are asking an awful lot from me."
Or when we have somewhere to go, she stresses about needing to finish whatever she is working on before we leave. Like tonight, we had choir practice at church and I said "I'd like to leave at 7." It was clear she wouldn't be ready by 7, so I said "Why dont 'we take seperate cars, then?" She said "good idea." I left at 7 and she never made it. When I got home she said "I didn't make it." I said "I noticed." She then told me how much she still has to do, kind of complaining about what she HAS to do tonight. I just said "It's probably good you didn't come then."
So, my wife's stress is beginning to spill over to me, in that I get the brunt of her feeling stressed - having to hear her complain about all she HAS to do (translate "has taken on"), hearing her rant and rave when she gets frustrated when things don't work right on the computer, or when they take longer than she thinks they should, etc. Having to go places without her - like both Saturday and Sunday this weekend she has to bag on plans we made with friends both nights because she has so much she has to get done by Monday. I'll go without her, but still, I'd rather us go as a couple. Last weekend I almost ended up going away By myself for a weekend getaway we had planned more than a month ago because she had to get the taxes done and had left them until Thursday! (Do you know how hard it was for me not to nag her to start them weeks ago??) She ended up taking off work to do them, and still didn't finish them - that's one of the things she will be doing tonight, since tomorrow is April 15.
I am finding it becoming more and more difficult being around her when she is so stressed and overworked. But, I am also concentrating on not nagging, not complaining, not fixing, not controlling, etc. And besides, there really is nothing I can say to her about her procrastinating, setting limits, planning her time better, etc., that I haven't said already. And she doesn't seem to want ot hear my genuine offers of help. (I have tried "would you like my help" and "would you like my advice" and "what can I do to help?" So usually all I say now is "I'm sorry you are feeling so stressed, honey." And I try to avoid her and go off and do my thing. And I wonder -is this what it has come to, my avoiding my wife because I don't enjoy being around her?
- Questioning our engagement by: Sparkle 15 years 1 week ago
I'm not sure what forum this belongs on, so I'll try here as my current emotional state is centering around frustration.
I'm new here, and I'm struggling with the large decision about whether to reinstate my engagement to my (ex?)fiance. We're both struggling with the decision, together. Brief background: we've been together 3 years. He's been diagnosed ADD for 6 months. He sees a therapist who doesn't specialize in ADD, but he likes her quite a bit and she's smart and quick on the uptake and willing to read and learn to try to help him. He has a prescription for Adderall, but doesn't like how he feels on it and takes it only when approaching a conversation-intensive task.
Our relationship has so many positives that at times I feel guilty and petty and as if I have unrealistic expectations for wanting more. I've read extensively here in the past few days and I see so many of my struggles recounted in others' posts, I don't know whether to be really relieved or really scared. He's my closest friend and as a friend he's just amazing. I really love him, his good heart and his kooky ideas and his sponteneity and genuine warmth, but as a romantic partner, someone I am supposed to be able to depend on and lean on when times are hard? I just don't think he's capable of that. And it kills me, because I don't know if I'm capable of being with someone who can't pull their share of the load.
I know from reading here that I don't have to list some of the basics, his inability to finish a task or show up when he's supposed to or to decide which is more important: putting his clothes in the dryer, finding his ipod, or picking up his girlfriend in time for an appointment. He eats us out of house and home. His finances are a mess. He is often clueless as to how we've arrived in an argument or a hurtful situation, when to me it's transparently clear how we've gotten there. He's left me stranded --- yeesh, I can't count how many times. He tries to grab the check at a restaurant when I know and he knows he's overdrawn. He doesn't own a car and doesn't seem to respect all of the money and time and paperwork others have to do to maintain the one he's asking to borrow. When we first started dating he left his pets at my house "for a week" that turned into 11 months.
But beyond that general stuff, which I really think I could learn to live with, there are things that are incredibly important to me in a relationship that I'm struggling so much with. Namely, and this is hard to admit - I have a hard time respecting him sometimes. I come from a family of hard workers. Men and women alike are self-disciplined and they show love for their families by working hard for them and fixing things, driving people to and from airports, shoveling snow and working and raising children and doing charity work. They are dependable. Whereas my fiance... he's good hearted, he tries, but he is the opposite of self-disciplined and sometimes it's hard for me to find respect for him when I value that trait so much. He says he's an ideas person - and he is, he has terrific ideas and he could talk a dog off a steak. But I have to constantly remind him that words are not actions. Saying something isn't enough! Actually DOING it is what makes something real. As a romantic partner, sometimes I feel like I get fed plate after plate of imaginary food and he's bewildered as to why I'm not getting full... metaphorically speaking.
So the respect thing is huge. And so is the resentment. He resents that I am not as laid-back as he is. I try to tell him - before he came into my life, I was way more laid back! But in the last 3 years, it's like he uses all the laid-back-ness we have available to us as a couple. One of us has to be the grown up for our lives to work, and he's never willing for that to be him. He's not capable of filling that role. So it falls to me more than ever when I'm with him. And he resents that I'm not "fun" more often, and that I "work too hard". And I resent that he doesn't see the sheer volume of work it takes to keep two adult's lives going. Of course it's hard work! I have two times the amount of responsibility I used to have. These are major issues for us.
Another of his big issues with me - he says my anger and hurt "come out of the blue" and that they are so unpredictable, it scares him. Before his ADD diagnosis, I couldn't believe he could say that and it always confused me. I've never been told that by another partner, ever. I am not an angry person. I'm pretty quiet and even-tempered. The times I get angry and hurt are in my opinion not only justified, but pretty well provoked. After his diagnosis his therapist said that perhaps the reason he can't predict my anger or hurt is because he doesn't think through the logical consequences of some of the things he says. And what looks like a clear-cut case of being incredibly hurtful, to me, is just an interesting new conversational topic to him. So my anger is bewildering and "out of the blue" to him. From my perspective I give many, many verbal and nonverbal signals to tell him his words are becoming hurtful. He just can't sense them.
So we've taken a relationship break to think about our feelings and what we think we can handle as a couple. We have so much love between us. Emotionally I've never felt so cherished, and not in the hyperfocused way I've read about, but in a gentle and warm love. But the mechanics of the relationship... I don't know that I can carry the load for us both without too much resentment, or that it would be fulfilling for me. I should add that I have a child, too, so feeling like my partner is yet another responsibility makes him seem "childlike" and like less of a romantic equal. There are other things, but I think that's all I can write about at this point. Thanks for reading....