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  • Is there hope? by: Questions 15 years 2 weeks ago

    We've suspected ADD since October, he was diagnosed (with ADD + depression) in December, started anti-depressants in March and tried an ADD med for a few days this month (made things worse )... We tried marriage counseling but were told that it didn't make a lot of sense until he had worked through some of his "stuff" first. So we're each going in individually. My counselor is nice but I think she's mostly dealt with ADHD in teens so she doesn't really understand what it's like to be married to someone... Reading "Is it You, Me or Adult ADD?" is the first time I really felt like I wasn't going crazy. That's where we're at now.

    My question is how do I hold onto hope that this is going to get better? It was bad enough a year ago that I started thinking about leaving (something I never thought I would consider). I feel like I've been carrying the full weight of this and I'm not sure how much longer I can do it. Anytime someone says I need to take care of myself I just wonder how. Certain things need to happen: bills need to be paid, the children need to be taken care of, etc. With 2 under the age of 2 (and my DH feeling like a 3rd) I can't just shut down and take care of myself. If they both nap at the same time I might get an hour alone a day, but that seldom happens, and if it does I'm frantically doing bookwork or something. There was a comment in the book I mentioned above where the wife said people kept on telling her to let her husband take responsibility for things and see what happened. She said it was a nice idea to "let the poop hit the fan" but the problem was that it was her and the kids that got splattered. Not my favorite phrase, but it really describes how I feel. I can't just divide responsibilities up because if he doesn't feel like doing something if affects more than just him.

    My DH is working at a temp job. He's been reprimanded for coming in dressed way too casually (if I had seen him before he left I would have said something) and he's told me that he spends a lot of time surfing the web at work (supposedly while he waits for the computer to complete a task but I can't imagine his employer would approve). So I'm lacking confidence that he can hold onto this job and he can't seem to motivate himself to start looking for something else since he has something now. I've done all the work of looking through job listings and sending him things that seem like possibilities but that doesn't help. I've even made specific times where he's at home with the computer and I'm out with the kids or they're sleeping so he can work on job apps but he just wastes the time. Some of this is probably non-ADD related laziness. Some of it is depression...

    I know he struggles to stay engaged when he finds things boring. We only see him a few hours a day and most of the time I have to fight for his attention. Our son will be trying to play with him and he'll be lost in a book. I'll try to talk to him and he'll act like I'm really bothering him because he had to look up from his magazine. I feel like apologizing that we don't seem to be interesting enough for him to care... He told me once (over a year ago) that he felt "trapped" by marriage and fatherhood and that just keeps on coming back to me. I wonder if leaving would make him realize that he misses us, or if it would just give him what he actually wants?

    The Dr he's seeing doesn't seem to know a lot about adult ADD. He told her the med didn't work and then has called back a few times but was only able to leave a message so nothing happened. He's unwilling to see someone else. His counselor as well is great with working through stuff from his past, but doesn't seem to really be working on the ADD side of things. I often feel like a single mother of 3 and I just don't know how much longer I can do that. I wanted marriage to be a partnership but when my DH is acting like a child most of the time (in the words of lady we were trying to see for marriage counseling) it just doesn't feel that way. I'm staying for the children and because I believe strongly that marriage is forever. I just want to be able to have hope that things will change.

    Sorry that this is rambling... I just needed to be heard by someone who might understand and no one in my "real" life is in that position...

  • Coping with new ADHD love when they are the only person you have in your life... by: EnchantedButter... 15 years 2 weeks ago

    I am 24 years old and have been with the one I love for almost 2 years now.  He was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, and I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder that put me in a wheelchair as a child.  When he and I met things moved fast between us since we were like 2 peas in a pod.  We befriended each other quickly and within a month were dating and living together.  The first 6 months were fantastic!! As i've read on here, he was in the hyperattention phase with me, also know as the "honeymoon phase" for relationships that dont involve ADHD.  We seemed perfect for each other - what I couldnt do physically, he did, and what he couldnt do mentally, I did.  After the first 6 months, things almost overnight when downhill.  He lost his interest with me and our life, attention-wise.  It then became me doing EVERYTHING - cooking, cleaning, keeping track of mine AND his appointments, keeping track of bills, taking care of the animals, reminding him to not forget about his friends and family, reminding him to not forget to take care of himself, reminding him that he is part of the relationship as well - I have become the scheduler, reminder and doer (because the scheduling and reminding gets me nowhere). This cause A LOT of turmoil in my brain.  I couldn't, and sometimes still cant, grasp my head around that fact that this perfectly able-bodied 27 year old man remembered, communicated, and did for himself just fine for the first 6 months, but then all of a sudden *BAM* he's not able to anymore.  It almost seems as if his ADHD is selective.  In the beginning it seemed like the usual "honeymoon phase" where the other person does all they can to reel you in, even hiding things about themselves to make them look better - and then *WAKE UP CALL* they slap you with who they actually are, not who they originally wanted you to see.  Now, it seems as if as long as the matter at hand is something he's interested in - there is no ADHD involvement... but the second that the matter at hand involves myself or our life or something thats not so happy-go-lucky - there's his ADHD, full force. 

    I love this man whole-heartedly and would love to marry him and start a family.  But I'm left with so much stress, so much uncertainty, so much confusion - that I doubt if its a good idea.  How can i think about having a family with someone that cant focus enough to tell me the things that are important in a family unit - religious beliefs, methods to raising children, hopes, dreams, views/opinions - I never get ANYTHING deep from him.  As an example, he is atheist and I am pagan and I always wonder how we would celebrate holidays with our children and how we would raise them religiously, but I cant get him to focus or respond to any of it.  If it doesnt have to do with wrestling, the computer, the TV or something funny - he has no interest. 

    I am at my wit's end.  I even have an 8 year old brother with autism and ADHD, and he is BY FAR easier to communicate with and deal with then my boyfriend who just has ADHD. Why is that? Why can i get through to a child, but not an adult?  And why is it that I can treat a child as an adult but I have to treat an adult as a child?  My boyfriend, unfortunetly, grew up with all of his friends and family doing and thinking everything for him because it was just easier for them to do it then to try to help him to do it himself.  Now I am left with the reprocussions from that. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that someone with ADHD cannot get better and cannot help themselves.  If I, someone who's been told by every doctor that they will never walk, can train my body to get up and go to physical therapy and get stronger and start walking - then someone who has ADHD can train their brain to remember and think and understand.  Its just people with ADHD have always been told that they CANT, they what they have wrong with them is what it is and theres nothing but medications that can be done about it.  And all the help out there seems to be for the people who DO NOT have ADHD and what WE can do to help THEM with THEIR problem, what WE can do to make THEIR life more easier, what WE can do as far as rememebering and doing everything for them.  Where is the information for the person who ACTUALLY has ADHD? Where are the resources who the person with ADHD to HELP THEMSELVES instead of everyone else doing everything for them... thats not how a person gets better by any means - mentally or physically.  Someone please tell me - who? what? where? when? why? HOW THE HECK DO I DO THIS?!?

  • Defending Compliments? by: Hoping4More 15 years 2 weeks ago

    Lately I have been trying to compliment and thank my wife more often (and nag and complain less).  Both to help me focus on what I love about her and to help her know what I appreciate about her so she might feel more loved and less criticized.  I have been doing this for a couple of days now and we seem to be in a much more caring place.  My compliments and gratitude are always genuine.

    I find that she often disagrees, deflects, or "disputes" my compliments, however.  For example, when we went to bed last night the kitchen table was covered with paperwork from her doing the taxes yeaterday, and I thought to myself as we went upstairs, "I wonder how long THOSE will be there?"  When I came downstairs this morning the papers were all off the table, and I said "Thanks for clearing off the kitchen table, honey.  I really appreciate it."  To which she replied "Of course I would do that" - implying "What do you think I am, a slob!"  When I messed something up the other night and apologized to her and she said "No problem!" I said "You are the most forgiving person I know.  You hardly ever get mad and you never hold a grudge."  (If the situation were reversed, I would have been mad.)  Anyway, she answered, "No, I'm not."  Things like that.

    When she does that, I just ignore it, rather than trying to "prove" to her that it is true or that I really mean it, and I wonder if it is the right approach.  Or is she looking for more validation in her "objections?"

  • Mood swings, verbally abusive ADD husband by: Jasmine 15 years 2 weeks ago

    Has anyone else experienced their ADD spouse having occassional sudden flare-ups of temper?  My husband is doing it again.  He calls me horrible names, tells me he hates me, etc.  I can't spend the rest of my life like this.  Then he comes out of it just as suddenly as he started.  He cries, apologizes, says he doesn't know what happens to him.  When it gets really bad he makes impulsive, sweeping decisions that often throw our life completely off coarse.  The most recent example would be we have been working hard to recover financially from his debt and have been in the process of planning a long anticipated move to another state.  He is one year into the state police application process, almost all the way through.  He flipped out last night, spent a couple of hours swearing at me and calling me horrible names, then informed me that he is going active in the Army (he is National Guard and regrets ever joining the military at all).  Of coarse this would destroy our plans and all the work we've done toward those plans over the last two years.  These episodes happen 2 or 3 times a year but they are so extreme and damaging.  His phases last anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks.  On a different subject, people with ADD do use it as an excuse.  I told him that we are separating our money and now, suddenly, he is less impulsive in his spending and is paying his own bills on time.  It took him awhile but out of necessity he magically learned to be more responsible.  Definitely do not go out of your way to help a grown man or woman with ADD if it is a detriment to you.  That's enabling.  Pull the rug out from under them and let them stand on their own two feet.  It will be better for you and your marriage and you'll be amazed at what they suddenly are able to handle on their own....that is, if you can last through the temper tantrum that will inevitably ensue.   

  • Insurance Coverage for ADHD Coaching by: gratitudeiskey 15 years 2 weeks ago

    Hello everyone:

    My husband and I have been seeing an ADHD coach for several months now.  The change in our marriage is nothing short of a miracle.  What is NOT such a miracle is the dent in our bank account and, at times, our credit card.  The charge is $100 per session and insurance will only cover if there is a diagnostic and procedure code.  The diagnostic code is easy but it's my understanding from our coach that there is no procedure code for coaching.  Is she right?  We are only going once per month now but I would love for my husband to be able to go by himself once a month to (as would he) but we can't afford more than the $100 / month and even that is sometimes going on a credit card. 

    Can someone give advice or help?

    Thanks to all. 

     

  • Any Suggestions on How NOT to Feel So Annoyed All the Time? by: Hoping4More 15 years 2 weeks ago

    I definitely criticize and nag my ADD wife way too often.  It is something I have been working on, but I am not always successful.  In fact, I am NOT successful way too often.

    Here's what I have been doing:

    When my wife does something (or doesn't do something) that annoys me, and I recognize that it annoys me, I tell myself not to take it personally, because she didn't MEAN to annoy me.  And I KNOW that is true.  Sometimes that works, and sometimes I still feel annoyed.

    So then I try to talk myself out of feeling annoyed.  I might say to myself  "It's really nothing.  There's no reason to be annoyed about that."  Sometimes that works, and sometimes I still feel annoyed.

    So then I might say "Just do it yourself, and move on."  Sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't.

    So then I say to myself, "OK, so, you're annoyed.  It's not important enough to say anything about.  Just forget it."  Sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't.

    So - sometimes I CAN manage not to feel annoyed, and sometimes I CAN overlook it even if I do.

    But sometimes, no matter how hard I try, I still end up being annoyed.  I know that's MY problem.  I know it is not RIGHT for me to be annoyed so often.  And I know I need to continue to work on that.

    I definitely DO plan to continue to try to not be annoyed so often.  Maybe our work with the 5 Languages of Love book will help us here. (If my wife communicates her love in MY love language more often, maybe I won't feel annoyed so much.  Just as if I communicate my love to her in HER love language more often, she probably won't feel criticized so much.)   I know if we follow Ned Hallowell's advice to spend more time together without distraction it will help.  That's also why I have been using this ADHD and Marriage blog, not because I think SHE or her ADHD are the problem, but because I think it will help ME not be so annoyed by some of the things she does that ARE related to her ADHD.) 

    In the meantime, while I work on not being annoyed so often, I'm wondering if anyone might be able to offer some helpful suggestions of things I can do when I DO feel annoyed, despite my best efforts not to

    At this point, it seems that when I feel annoyed, I only have two choices.  I can either swallow my feelings, or I can say something.

    If I swallow my feelings, they fester, and that's not good.

    If I say something, even when I try to say it gently and with love, it seems to come across as nagging or critical, THAT's not good either.

    But maybe there's another option I'm just not seeing.  Maybe you can suggest something else I can do or say that helps me not feel annoyed without making my wife feel bad.  

  • Concerta making things worse! by: Questions 15 years 2 weeks ago

    My husband has been diagnosed with dysthymia and lymbic ADD. He's been taking Wellbutrin for about 6 weeks and it's really helped. He started taking Concerta last week and went back to how he was before the Wellbutrin or worse. He's VERY irritable, unpredictable, angry, has a short temper, etc. Has this happened to anyone else? He's stopped taking it and is going to try to get an earlier apointment with his Dr. (she had scheduled one for 3 weeks)

  • Is it Possible for Us to "Start Fresh?" by: Hoping4More 15 years 2 weeks ago

    The situation (somewhat simplified version) is as follows.

    I have heard my wife (ADD) say that she needs me (non-ADD) to say affirming things more often and criticize her less often.  I think I am criticizing her less and saying affirming things more.  I hear her saying that it is not enough, that she needs me to say affirming things even more often and criticize even less often.  

    I have told my wife that I would like her to do more "little acts of kindness" without me having to ask.   I think she has heard me and I know she sometimes does them.  But I still feel like she doesn't do them enough.  I need her to do them even more often.

    I have also said it really bothers me when she snaps at me or yells at me in response to a statement I make or a question I ask.  I think she has heard me and is trying to not to do it as often, but it is not enough.  I need her to do it even less.

    And it feels to me like we are in a vicious cycle.  It's difficult for me to say loving things to her when I don't feel her doing loving things for me or when she snaps and yells at me, and it's difficult for her to not to snap and yell at me or do loving things for me when I am criticizing her and not saying loving things to her.

    We both seem to KNOW what the other wants/needs, but we are having difficulty doing enough of what the other needs and letting go of (or focusing less on) what WE want/need. 

    Also, I often feel like I am doing all the work, and my guess is that she feels that SHE is doing all the work.  Which of course, just makes matters worse.

    We have just gotten the book "The Five Love Languages" (probably not the correct title) because we KNOW we have different expectations/needs when it comes to expressions of love.  And that we both tend to express love more in the way WE need to experience it than in the way the other needs to experience it.  But I'm not sure how much it will help because the problem we are having is more in doing what the other needs/wants, not in knowing what theother needs/wants.

    We both acknowledge that things are not good between us right now.  We both want them to be better.  We both believe they can be better.  And we are both willing to work on this.

    The problem as I see it at this point is that we are both feeling very emotionally "beat up" right now and don't quite know how to "step out" of this vicious cycle we are in and "start fresh."

  • The Blame Game by: Hoping4More 15 years 2 weeks ago

    My wife and I are stuck in a vicious cycle of "the blame game."  I'll ask her a question, like "Do you know where the attachment for the vacuum is?"  She'll hear it as a criticism, as if I said "I can't find the attachment to the vacuum and it's your fault."  She will respond by yelling "I DON'T KNOW."  I'll respond by saying "Why are you yelling at me?"  And she'll say something like "I'm tired of being blamed for everything."  And I'll say "I wasn't blaming you for anything.  I was just asking you for help finding something. And what I get is yelled at."  And then I'll say something like "I can't even ask you a simple question anymore.  I feel like I'm in a mine field."  And then it escalates.  And as I write this, I realize that my making that last statement is what escalates it into a fight.

    I know I can't get her to stop thinking I always criticize her, because sometimes I DO criticize her.  And I've been working on doing that less, and complimenting her more.  I bite my tongue a lot, but sometimes I just have to say something.  But so often she THINKS I am being critical when I am not.  (Maybe that is a sign of how critical I have been - sigh.)

    So my question is - how do I deal with her anger, insults, sarcasm, etc. when she feels I have been critical but when I haven't?  And to those of you who say "just ignore it" - I'm sorry.  I've tried that, but I can't just let it go.  I am beginning to feel like a battered woman.  Someone who is verbally abused.  And I know SHE feels like she is constantly criticized.  I know that because she ends up saying very hurtful things to me as a way of striking back when she DOES feel criticized.

    So here's the situation:  she feels like I always criticize her.  I feel like she's always snapping/yelling at me.  Hence, we are stuck in this "blame game."

  • Losing things by: Sueann 15 years 3 weeks ago

    Does anyone have any idea how to make an ADDer care when they lose your stuff?

    My daughter gave me a GPS for Christmas because I always get lost. I mostly only go to work, school and the grocery store, so I let my husband use it. (His job requires him to travel from client to client, so he could use it.) I told him I'd want to use it if we went anywhere.

    I've been asking him where it was all week. He said "I haven't looked for it yet." (!) He should know where it is! I'm afraid he's let one of his clients steal it (a lot of them are crack addicts.) or it's irretrievably lost. I'm mad and he doesn't think I should be. He keeps changing the subject. The fact that he doesn't know where such an important object THAT IS MINE is makes me feel unimportant. What in the world do I tell my daughter??

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