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  • Vynance vs. adderall -- major obsessive/hyperfocus issues by: momof2sweethearts 15 years 4 months ago

    I'm new here on this forum.  I'm 45, married 20 years with 2 children.  I was tested and diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago and was on adderall XR for most of that time.  About 10 months ago, my dr changed me to regular Adderall because I was having trouble sleeping at night.  I've also been on focalin for about 10 months for anxiety/depression.  My problem with the ADHD is that I was constantly jumping from thing to thing, I could not finish a project if my life depended on it.  Well, I could if it was due the next day and then I'd stay up all night gettig it done.  The adderall seemed to help at first, but then it leveled off.  If I forgot to fill the prescription, I would notice it was out of my system the next day and then would feel the "hit" when I took another but then again, I would start to not notice it again.

    So about 3 months ago my dr suggested I go to a new psychiatrist as I didn't like the one that diagnosed me with ADHD.  This new dr switched me from adderall to Vynance, starting at a lose dose and increasing.  The first weekend I was on it, i was hyperfocused on, of all things, solitaire.  I played it most of the weekend and it wasn't until a few days later that my husband wondered outloud if it had to do with the new med.  Now I'm stuck on playing 2 online games on my facebook.  I don't even like them really.  I play them and keep saying to myself "just one more game" and the next thing I know, it's been 2 hours.  My children will come in to talk to me and I'll talk with them, but I don't even remember the conversation, just back to playing that stupid game.  Or I will start to research say a new cable company on the computer and I get so involved that it takes forever and I don't realize that I've been messing with it forever until my husband asks what I'm doing and then he reminds me that it's not something that needs to be done right now and maybe I should instead pay some of our bills that are past due.

    I'm going to call my dr as my home business is slipping and I need to know if this is normal or what is going on.  Does anyone else have issues like this?  I'm not jumping from thing to thing anymore, but this hyperfocus is maddening.

  • Hi...I'm new, and btw...very sad... by: Flower Lady 15 years 4 months ago

    After 25 years of marriage and three children, my husband and I are separating.  He has ADHD...confirmed by a psychiatrist...but denies it.  Treatment of any kind is out of the question as he won't make time for counseling and refuses to consider meds or other tx's.  There are many other issues in our marriage (of course) but ADHD is, by far, the most significant and the worst.  I'm trying to come to grips with our upcoming separation and also trying to understand how my husband's thinks...or acts...the way he does.  I hope posters here can help.  

    I have had a chronic autoimmune disease for over 21 years, and am also a breast cancer survivor.  For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone diagnosed with a medical condition would not seek treatment for it right away...especially when it affects quality of life of not only the diagnosed individual, but also that of his family.  I couldn't put my family (esp my children) through a denial scenario (Frankly, I'd be dead if I had...:)).  Why won't my husband get help if in doing so his marriage and family situation would greatly improve?  Is change so frightening that it immobilizes him or is it just plain selfishness?

    Why does he avoid communicating?  He is either too tired or too busy.  He won't listen and when he does?  He forgets what was said then accuses me of making it up later.  It's a constantly exhausting round of "he said, she said"...sigh. 

    Is it me or do ADHD spouses lack empathy?  This is perhaps most disturbing to me.  My husband is like a machine...no emotion.  At least the good kind....he does anger really well.  He seems so incredibly indifferent to the pain/suffering of others.  It's too easy for him to say/do hurtful things.  The pain he inflicts is real and leaves deep scars.  Yet, he doesn't "get it".  Why??  It seems so very obvious to me.

    I could go on and on about this or that instance, but suffice it to say that I'm just worn out.  Trying to cope with my AI disease, my cancer fallout, and three kids with their own problems (oldest has ADD too, middle child has anxiety disorder and youngest has a significant learning disability) has left me with little energy.  Gardening is my stress reliever (my husband gets angry that the yard looks nice when the house is cluttered) Of course he contributes to the mess by being so disorganized and juggling ten projects at once (with none every completed) but again...doesn't see it. I'm to blame for most everything...including my kids' problems.

    Not looking for any magic answers, maybe just someone's experience that mirrors my own?  I'm going to see a counselor myself just to keep my head on straight and have somebody tell me "it's ok, hon...you're doing the right thing." But dang....I'm so tired and so disheartened. :(

     

  • Is it ADD,Aspergers or Abuse? by: jgsmom 15 years 4 months ago

    Okay, I have read all these accommodations we (the non ADD spouse) can make in trying to be sympathetic to our ADD spouses. I try real hard to "pick my battles" and determine what is tolerable, let it go and what is not. So my husband is really forgetful, I try to be helpful with gentle reminders to a point but the things that don't really affect me I just let go, like the fact that he hasn't had his teeth cleaned in over two years or he forgets to mail a birthday card or call for his mom, dad, sister, ect. However, there are some things I just cannot accept as tolerable. Like his horrible temper/verbal abuse that has gotten better but I still carry the deep wounds as he has never fully realized/understood the true damage he has done, that his actions/in-actions have natural consequences (like me not being able to trust him) and he has never apologized in a way that I felt he had true remorse. He says he is sorry, that he knows the damage he has caused but I find his apology very hard to believe as #1 he would apologize then a week later blow up again, this happened on avg. at least 2-3 times a month for 4 1/2 years. Blow up, apology, him expecting me to get over it immediately after his apology, blow up apology, him expecting me to get over it immediately after his apology, so on and so on for 4 1/2 of our 5 years of marriage. Then he wonders why I do not trust him, he actually believes that he deserves my trust and deeply resents me for not trusting him. This leaves me utterly baffled. He has done better with controlling his temper, still has blow ups, still throws verbal punches "below the belt" but not as many in the last 2/3 months and he thinks he deserves so much credit, a pat on the back for behaving in a way that is expected of the rest of us responsible adults. #2 His apologies do not have a sincere tone and are always followed with "but I have issues with you, you have fault in this too, it took two of us to get here." and "We have to work together to make this work." How do I believe he is sincere, that he will do his part, that things will get better when I feel that it has always been me doing 99% of the "work?" I am emotionally and mentally exhausted. I have done ridiculous amounts of research, extending trust to him time and time again, against my better judgment only to be let down again and again, and criticized for not trusting him.

    My husband cannot see past his own perspective, he cannot distinguish when it is time to set his feelings aside to help me even when it is clear that I am in much more desperate need. For example, my doctor has been having me try all these different anti-depressants for "situational depression" due to the stress of my marriage. None of them have worked for me, in fact they have made me more depressed, uncontrollable weeping, fatigue, horrible nightmares to the point where I was barely able to take care of myself let alone do anything else. I have even called in sick to work because of this and I never miss work, my boss has even asked me if I am okay because this is so out of character for me. Instead of Rick feeling sympathy for me or holding me and telling me that it is all going to be okay he gets irritated and says "it is difficult to be around you right now" and "I just want my wife back." Wow, really? I say, "imagine what it feels like to be me right now, hard for you?? You are the reason I am having to take these drugs in the first place." Then he takes our daughter and goes out to dinner with his parents leaving me home to deal with this on my own.

    I went to the 4th therapist in our 5 year marriage for the first time yesterday. Our 3rd therapist said we were at an "impasse" and that she thought that Rick and I need to see separate counselors every week for 2 months, then meet back with her together afterward. So she referred me to one for my "emotional support and help to deal with the stress of my marriage" and Rick to another who is both a counselor and an ADD coach. These are therapists within the same practice and they would all conference on our situation. So, in my first session yesterday my new therapist tells me that our issues do not stem from ADD, that in fact I am a victim of his abuse and that she is going to teach me how to set strong boundaries with Rick and take better care of myself. This hit me pretty hard because I am not the "victim" type. I have a healthy self-esteem, learned how to be strong, independent (completely self-sufficient at 17 years old) and have learned that I am responsible for my own happiness. In the past I have had some very healthy relationships but in a few relationships, if I felt I was not treated right I always left but I was never married to any of them. I think I have tolerated alot more and put alot more effort into my relationship with Rick because we are married and we have a daughter. I have come to the conclusion that it is either his ADD symptoms (that hopefully he could overcome) or just plain old abuse that is alot harder if even possible to overcome but now I am wondering if he may have Aspergers.

    I went to my doctor after my counseling appt. and I told him that I do not want to take the anti-depressants anymore, I felt I did better without them. He agreed that I could try to go without them and I have gone cold turkey. Then I called our very first therapist to see him in hopes of getting some clarity, he counseled us the longest but we quit seeing him because he wanted Rick to quit drinking and me too "in support of Rick." Not because he felt that Rick was an alcoholic but as he put it "some people are just more sensitive to alcohol, even one drink can cause them to be more reactive and exhibit poor judgment." Well, Rick didn't subscribe to this way of thinking at all, and frankly, I rarely drink but I do like to have the option if the occasion calls for it and why should I give up one more thing in support of Rick when he has done very little in support of me? Even if it guaranteed some improvement in the marriage Rick and his family would resent and blame me for it (strong Irish background) and there would still be so much more to work on.

    My husband doesn't seem to "get it" and these last two counselors warned me that he may never "get it" that "some people's brains are just wired that way." "Like your narcissistic mother" is how they put it (our first counselor asked me if I saw similarities between my husband and my mother too). My husband can be very similar to my mother, self-centered, selfish, seeing things from only his perspective, and sensitive only to his own emotional needs, most of the time seemingly not having the tools to recognize or take care of my emotional needs, even when I tell him exactly what I need, like him to hold me and sympathize with me. He still just sits there across the living room continuing his conversation. In fact, he often adds insult to injury as when I ask for emotional support from him he usually responds in a way that makes me feel like he thinks I am wrong or stupid for feeling the way I do and he dismisses my pleas for comfort from him because he feels he knows better what to do to than I to make things better in our relationship. My happiness and security do not seem to matter to him until I get to the point where I am threatening divorce, then I get all these promises of change, that he will do anything I ask, that never last.

    I came across some info on the net about Aspergers. I have to say that alot of the symptoms/behaviors seem to fit Rick. He has said that he generally dislikes people, feels socially awkward/anxious, I have to really work to get him to go to social events with friends, he has very few friends that he never plans events with and rarely talks to. In fact, his two "best friends" live out of state. I have alot of friends and try to encourage Rick to get to know them and their husbands but he just is not interested saying he has his friends (the ones that live out of state that he never talks to) and he doesn't need anymore. Also, I rarely see Rick express happiness, joy or excitement, most of the time it seems that he only knows how to express anger or sadness. We have no intimate connection because he refuses to "let me in." He admits that he has a hard time sharing his thoughts and feelings with anyone. His own family, whom he says he so close to have admitted that they do not really know him. No one really knows Rick. I probably know him best but only because I live with him and I work every day to try to get to know and understand him better and I can only make assumptions for the most part as he will never confirm anything for me. We are married and should be connected, we should be partners and best friends. Another source of great pain for me is that my husband does not know me. His perception of me is so far off the mark it is baffling. Anyone who knows me would tell you that I am an open book, very sensitive to others needs, that I posses a strong sense of fairness and live by a very strict moral code of treating everyone with respect and compassion. Much like that of a child of an alcoholic who chooses to stay as far away as possible from alcohol, I am a child of a narcissist mother who makes it a priority to be as honest and forthright as possible, constantly checking my motives to make sure that I am nothing like my mother. Once in a while, Rick has these "awakening" type moments where he does seem to know me. He has told me that I am the best, most honest and compassionate person he has ever known. That he loves me for always doing what is right, even when it is the hardest thing to do and that he couldn't imagine a better mother for our daughter... but when that moment is over I go back to being labeled as "manipulative," "untrustworthy", "treating him like a second class citizen," "selfish" and "uncompromising," though he cannot give an example of anything I have ever done to earn these labels.

    So please, is there anyone out there that can give me some clarity here? My head is swimming and I have a 15 mo. old daughter to think about. Please help me!!

  • Safely Handling ADD meds by: Sueann 15 years 4 months ago

    My husband takes both Concerta and Wellbutrin. He has a bad habit of not putting the caps on tight when he takes them. We have cats that climb on the counter (I know that's not good but I can't figure out how to stop it) and I'm afraid the cats will knock them on the floor and either the cats or the dog will eat them. Does anyone know if that would harm an animal? Does anyone know how to get him to remember to put the caps on? I don't want to give them to him like he's a child because he's 47 years old, but if something happened to the dog or cats he'd never forgive himself and I'd never forgive him either.

  • My husband did the laundry without me asking! Hooray! by: Sueann 15 years 4 months ago

    I went out this morning while my husband was getting ready for work. When I came back, I heard the washer running. He had actually put a load of laundry together and put it in the wash without me asking! He was looking through all his pants for his wallet and realized he had enough for a load. To someone without ADD it sounds minor, but the fact that he could figure out that he needed to do them, because they are his pants, without prompting from me, is a great step. Only the spouse of an ADD person would understand this post.

  • Topic of the day by: ADDbuster 15 years 4 months ago

    Hi all would appreciate some much needed advice.

    My wife and I are in our mid to late thirties and have been married for 4 years. Though things have not been perfect we have managed to let things be ok.   I recently found out I was ADD big time but only after suffering job losses and failures. My wife had enough of my job problems and financial as a consequence and reached a point of no return. She thinks ADD is an excuse and will not get involved with it in any way, for her it does not justify my problems.

    So I suferred real bad because of my ADD since childhood and it was a very pivotal and emotional moment for me to find but my wife resents me wants to leave asap and won't because we have a child. She will not take this ADD seriously even while I try to explain to her, she says I have enough on my plate. I know I suffered those losses because of my sickness but she does not care and just want me to have a stable job.

    Things are bad real bad and I don't know what to do. I am seeking treatment and took myself to many doctors and I am in therapy now but the damage is done and I am really confused and helpless.

     

    Appreciate objective beedback,,thanks......

     

     

     

  • emotional overload by: brendab 15 years 4 months ago

    "Blaming or making rigid demands on others, the world and one’s self is the core of most emotional problems. Also we waste a lot of time waiting for the world to meet our demands.  We have to deal with the world as it is, not as we wish it were."

    I got this statement from a book called SOS Help for Emotions.  My boyfriend is ADD and sometimes I find myself having negative self talk that escalates into a lot of negative, nonproductive emotion.  The author says that we might find situations annoying but then stop and analyze what we can do about it rather than getting filled with emotion  This emotional overload accomplishes nothing except anxiety, anger and depression.  I think that I might be contributing a great deal to my own stress by my negative self talk.  I rigidly expect him to do things in a certain way and when he doesn't I start telling myself that I can't stand it, he has to stop this behavior, and if he cared about me he'd be different. 

    Maybe I am my own worse enemy and maybe there is some helpful advice out there to help me curb this tendency.  I do think that it is okay to feel annoyed, but I really don't like the overwhelm I experience.  It dranes me, ruins my day and wastes a lot of my time.

    Brenda

  • when to divorce??!! by: susi78 15 years 4 months ago

    I am not doing so well at all in my marriage with my ADHD spouse.  we will be married for almost 3yrs and it has been so tough for both of us.  We have been to marital therapy and it seems things stick for a week or so and then he does what he wants. 

    Our biggest problem is communication.  I also figured out people feel and express love in different ways.  my husbands way is by doing projects together.  mine is by spending quality time together, (sharing ideas..etc...)  When you add ADHD to this and the fact he has 4 children of his own from a previous marriage who also have special needs...life is very stressful.  

    Also We are still trying to fight to keep the house from a pay losse...and he insists on using the debit card even though he admits to being impulsive with his spending at times. 

    I have tried everything.  I really have no hope anymore.  I see he refuses to give up but I am at a point were I am not trying to fix the marriage any more.  I am trying to save myself.  Yet I walk around feeling sick to my stomach. I walk around with so much resentment towards him for all the times he has failed to do the things he said he would and more importantly for not having much empathy for me at times.  I have major trust issues coming into the marriage and when someone repeatedly breaks their word and simply says they forgot...I have a hard time believe them on an emotional level.  Yes, that is ADHD..but again on an emotional level..I don't believe him at all.  I think he is trying to hurt me. 

    He tells me he loves me and that is why he is in the marriage at this point.  He admits he is fairly miserable too.  I can't even tell him I love him anymore.  I don't even know if I do. Almost everything he does irritates me to death now. (yes, even his heavy breathing at night!!)  I just wear ear-plugs and put a pillow over my head.  Whenever he tries to hug me I tell him in no uncertain terms to keep his hands off me.  The rage and resentment for all the unkept promises and huge fights has taken a toll. 

    I am resentful I have a spouse who is so distracted and forgets things all the time.  I'm resentful that on date nights he tells me he has to work to pay attention to me.  (I take that personal!) I'm resentful of the freakin pipe-dream he gave me prior to marrying him as this isn't what I expected at all.  I am resentful I do not have my own child and have 4 who think I'm pretty "cool" but who will never see me or love me as their real mother.  Yet their real mother is honestly neglectful.  I don't get much appreciatation for what I do for them by anyone... in fact I get more guilt trips from his mother that I should do even more..even when they do not live with us.  She does this because the biomother is so neglectful and has given up with her so she tossed the towel to me. Still she lets the biomother use her shower and hems her clothes and it's really messed up!  I don't get any really attention from anyone.  I'm just the maid/nanny/ NAGGING RESENTFUL WIFE!

    I feel overwhelmed and it's affecting my health.  I told him I'm at a pont where I am just trying to fix me now and where my head is at.  I plan on going to Al-anon again b/c it might help with negativity.    

    I really need some objective feedback here. 

  • What am I doing… by: unsure 15 years 4 months ago

    What am I doing…

    My wife is my true love. We have been married twenty-two years and have two children.

    I don’t understand why I push my wife away. I hurt her constantly. I avoid her and the conflict. I don’t communicate and when I do I am not clear. I am a workaholic.

     

    I was married once before and after seven years my first wife had an affair. I found out and we got a divorce.

     

    When we first were married I was a very insecure and jealous. My wife would sit for hours to make me feel secure and safe in our marriage. I always wanted to have my own business so she supported me in this endeavor. We had a business together and after ten years the economy changed and the business started failing. I kept this from her and then when the IRS started threatening I could no longer hide it. I was too embarrassed to tell her. I had a breakdown ended up in the hospital. So after our first six years of marriage I was diagnosed with ADHD, Depression, and PTS where I was put on medications. My wife had to deal with the IRS and the state alone. After getting out of the hospital I was able to sell my business and we broke even financially. I landed a great job and felt good about life. I worked twelve to fifteen hours a day and traveled a lot. Financially we had a late start but things defiantly turned around. I worked and my wife took care of everything else and I mean everything else. Without her total love support I would have never been able to do this.

     

    Ten years ago at place where I worked a girl in the office thought I was the greatest. After about six months I went out to dinner with her twice. I had the opportunity to have an affair with her but realized what I was doing and that I truly love my wife. I stopped all interaction with this girl and she changed jobs shortly after.

     

    Five years ago I was offered a position in another state. As a family we agreed to move and leave our friends and family for a better life. I was going to be able to work less and be available to my family more. Before we made the final decision to move my wife asked me if I had an affair. I told her no. Deep down she knew but felt our life would be different. I would be home more and that would make the difference. I finally told her three months ago about the other woman and what took place. She is angry.

     

    My wife was a people person, will talk for hours to get the details about a situation, loves life, and is religious. Well after twenty-two years I changed that by pulling away, making her feel like she has no partner in life, I have said horrible things that I did not mean just so I would not have to confront issues.  The problem with our marriage was me. I am introverted, do not communicate my feelings, walk away from confrontations, and fall into old habits. I have put this off for so long now that I can’t get passed her anger. I do not blame her. I do not want to hurt her any more. We had another fight last night.  I don’t know why but this morning I told her I am not going to change and because I am hurting her and the children that I should move out. What am I doing? I can see it so clearly but as soon as we start to talk I get lost in thoughts and emotions. That’s when I fall into my old habit of claming up or saying something mean. Why?

  • starring at other women by: Cristina 15 years 4 months ago

    I am not sure this has anything to do with adhd, but my husband keeps starring at other women when where are out together. This bothers me so much. When we were 19 he told me he stared at other girls all the time when he was alone, and that they didn´t need to be beautiful, the he would focus on the nice parts. Back then, I believed men and women were the same, and since I never do that, I thought this was wrong like cheating. I had made that statement in conversation, so later he told me about this because he was feeling dishonest with me. When he told me about this It hurt me a lot, I wanted to leave him, but I didn´t manage.

    He also told me he was always feeling sad, nervous, and bad about himself, and that he masturbated all the time to control his feelings. This time I just felt really sorry for him.  

    I married him when I was 23. From time to time I used to find hidden porn magazines somewhere in the house and for some reason it made me feel a little sad. I never noticed him looking at other women and totally forgot about this subject. We had a video camera and I once found a tape with zooming images of the babysitter´s bottom and boobies, and of bottom and boobies of people in the streets. I was very disappointed and sad, but did not really react to it. In fact I just gave him the tape back and only begged him to destroy it. He explained himself by saying "you know I have this woman problem".

    Again I never noticed him looking at other girls, but he always made male-like comments to me about how hot this or that girl was. That bothered me.

    In the last years, however, the I began noticing the starring, which got less and less discreet over time. With the coming of the internet, the porn magazines were replaced by pornsites, real girls dancing on youtube, real girls photo albums, etc. And that includes images of very young teenagers. Over the years, he became more and more compulsive until last year he was doing it all the time. Porn was all over our computer, and all over his computer at his office desk. The computer was so infected that porn would just pop up in the screen without anyone asking for it. He was so compulsive that he did it in our room during daylight, with me in the room getting ready for work and talking to him. He wished to be left alone in the house during the day, or nervously begged me to go to bed early for no apparent reason (I was sure he wanted to masturbate at porn on his own). When we laid together, but sex did not heppen imediately, he would get up and masturbate at porn, even though he had been doing it all day. He often stayed up all night doing it.  I felt so many different negative feelings when I used to check what he had been seeing (he did not even delete internet history!). This, combined with the starring, and the way he approached me for sex ( and that would be the only reason he ever approached me for) was making me feel very distressed. I was feeling disrespected, and felt I had become only a small detail in his sex life.. well.. compared  to his exciting masturbation sessions, I am really not so interesting. I did not like having sex with him anymore and stopped sex for months. 

    Now, after a year of therapy, and a lot of begging and crying from my part, he is not looking at porn or erotica in the internet anymore, although I am pretty sure he still sees it on TV (where I can´t track). At first the starring had stopped, and I noticed it was very hard for him not to stare at women when with me (I am sure he never quit it when not with me). But now I notice him quickly looking at girls and women, and that is enough for me to spend a whole day crying. That is pathetic of me, I know. 

    If I reason about it, I think it is ok for a man to look at other women, to look at images of women on the net, or to see erotica films. But I can help to feel really sad when he looks at a woman, even if I, myself, find the woman so pretty and feel like admiring her. I don´t know what´s wrong with me. I feel like a jealous freak. I feel I will always be unhappy. I imagine myself being 50 or 60, feeling my body ageing while catching him looking at teens, and feeling horrible, and thinking my whole life was miserable and ridiculous. Sometimes I think I am crazy and a totally unreasonable person. But then again, I think it is legitimate for me to think that if a woman´s beauty and youthfulness is what turns my husband on, what will happen with me in the future? I am 34 and will only get older. He once told me to go to the gym because he likes women with firm muscles. I actually am doing gym, because I want to be active and healthy. When I started gym he said to me that he couldn´t wait to see by body "getting better". Sometimes I think these worries are a good reason for a divorce, and get sadder about it. Then I think cannot leave with any man anymore, since people say all men look at porn and stare at women. That makes me even sadder. Sometimes feel like leaving him and becoming a lesbian...

    ...I guess I won´t write anymore because I am becoming ashamed of my stupid feelings. I wish I could relax and not care about this, because nowadays I am sure he loves me and is attracted to me and we are having great sex. Can a therapist make me not think about this and laugh about his starring habits?

     

     

     

        

     

      

     

     

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