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  • Husband's ADHD, Adultery and Abuse--Please Help Me! by: clover1 15 years 3 months ago

    My husband was diagnosed with ADHD and severe depression in June three years ago.  The reason I had him diagnosed was because I caught him cheating on me by giving me an STD.  After 17 years of marriage and knowing from the beginning this was the only thing I could not tolerate, he did it anyway.  I immediately seeked council of my minister as well as a therapist.  I learned that if I wanted to save my marriage, I had to forgive him with the understanding that he would change.  He claimed he cheated on me with prostitutes, three times in three years.  I never believed that and thought he had no remorse and was just sorry he got caught.  Well, we went to individual counseling, church and couples counseling.  Things were getting better and after a year and a half, we renewed our wedding vows.  As soon as the renewal took place, he went back to being his old self.  Irresponsible, never being present, I could never reach him and he began to shut down from me.  He lied continuously about where he was (if he even told me he was going out).  He began attending my daughter's school sports games, playing golf and watching sports games at the local Elks and VFW.

    We have one daughter who was bound for college this fall.  I handle all the paperwork, bills, refinancing our mortgage (and getting one for that matter).  I handle all the financial, school, investment, banking decisions, you name it.  My husband cannot even reconcile a checkbook statement.  During the past six months, he began to be extremely defensive whenever I asked him a question, he retreated to our family room downstairs, and the only time I really saw him was at dinner (I make a "Sunday" dinner every night).  I was hoping I could wait until my daughter went off to school this September before ending it, because I was at the point where it was more painful to stay with him than be without him.  I felt that he degraded me, belittled me, and treated me like I was worthless.

    I am 48 years old with MS (though you would never know it because I am able to keep my illness in check and most people wouldn't even know I had it since you cannot tell physically) and I am the doer in my home.  After meeting with my minister shortly over 2 months ago, he gave it to me straight, "that my husband didn't love me and was using me to do all of his stuff that he didn't want to do nor knew how to do".  He prayed with me that I would be able to see the truth in all of this and separate because God didn't want any of his people to be abused emotionally and feel worthless.  Well, it took me one day to acknowledge this and after he mouthed off at me again the next day, I called the police and had him removed.

    I knew he had ADHD, but never really looked into it thoroughly due to time constraints; he really didn't look into it--sure he tried the medicine, changed it a couple of times and then just stopped without telling me.  The verbal and emotional abuse were more than I could take any longer and now I find myself trying to "save" him.  I am obviously a co-dependent, helping anyone and everyone who needs it (one of the things my husband hated that I did).  I filed for separation support, but he counter filed to divorce.  I told him I would not sign for divorce because I was hoping this would shake him and he would try to help himself.  I cannot for the life of me know how anyone could live with the guilt of cheating consistently, lying, and living a double life.

    I guess my question is who can help us the most?  I know he will never get help unless he acknowleges the problem, but he is in partial denial.  We did go to marriage counseling for three years which helped me greatly, but he thought it was a venting session for me--he never did his homework, but went any way every week because he thought he was "doing his part".  Should I even bother trying to save this or is it definitely too late.  It is so painful I cannot even stand myself and cannot get him out of my head.  He did come over to "talk" and I demanded a change and that he get help, but his main concern was "when can I move back in".

    I also take care of my elderly mother and am at my wits end.  Though being rejected by him time and time again, it hurts the most this time even though I had him leave, he was never here to begin with, if you know what I mean.  I would like to find an ADHD specialist for him, for me (I guess I don't know how to communicate with an ADHD person), and couples counseling.  Bottom line, if he truly doesn't want it, it will never happen.  Any help you could give me would be a God send and greatly appreciated.

  • Have you ever just stopped caring and wanted them gone? by: Ki 15 years 3 months ago

    Have you ever reached the point where you don't care if they have ADD/ADHD or how you will survive, or how it will affect the children if you just put out your ADD spouse or left them? I'm at that point with my husband. I'm sure it would cause trauma to my daughter to not have her own father around and I would still be broke financially but I'm just so over it. I literally want to him and his ADD to go out the door and pray for the poor woman that will be the next victim to suffer him. I'm so emotionally and physically done that I don't care about any consequences now or in the future, I just want every bit of him gone out of my life. He is a walking disaster.

    It is like his very presence alone agitates me and he can't even blink right for me. I'm tired. I'm no fool to think marriage is easy and the vows say for better or for worse. But its always the "worse". I absolutely don't like anything about my husband's ADD . He can take his spontaneity and fun nature and shove it. I don't need it. I'm tired of talking to someone that NEVER makes sense.  I developed constant headaches and eyepain from crying so much and if I had an addictive personality I'm sure I'd be on the road to becoming an alcoholic.

    I've been through all kinds of counseling and I don't care to do it anymore.  I think if I had the 200 dollars sitting in the bank (his foolery wiped out our savings which led to me wiping out my savings), I'd probably be online doing one of those Legal Zoom divorce things right now while I'm writing this. But I'm too broke to even do that.

    I started packing his stuff but then said to myself, "Hey, this just another thing I'm doing for him." so I decided he'll pack his own stuff. There used to be this bright light of hope at the end of the tunnel for me that has slowly dwindled nothing.

    I've tried to put it in the Disability perspective. But I'm so worn down I don't care and he isn't my child so I don't feel obligated.

    My step-mother in law asked me to take the baby to the movies or something and just have a good night out and maybe I'll feel better and have a clearer head. My opinion is yeah those things will help me escape reality for a bit but then I'll just be walking back into the crap.

    We've been married for 6 years and togther for 9. I don't know how women/men have been dealing with this for 20, 30. 40 years!!!Is it not a miserable existence?

     

     

     

     

  • I have no idea what to do by: WaterLily420 15 years 3 months ago

    I am 22 years old and although im not married to my boyfriend yet, we live together. He has adhd. I didn't know of his diease until after we started dating. He was 28 and I was 19 and i was until the impression that since he was older, he would be more mature. I slowly started to realize he was slightly inappropriate and a little mean at times. This behaviour only became increasingly worse. By the time i found out he has adhd i was already in love, and pain. I didn't know and still don't what to do at all. He sometimes calls me names then says later he doesnt remember doing it. When we first got together i told him how much i wanted a family. He told me he wanted me to. That soon changed into him saying I never said I wanted to have children with you other things such as that.

    Another problem I have with him is his lack of understanding. I myself have MS, so I am not upset easily by mood swings and hurtful things but he is. I dont understand how he can get all upset when I tell him to leave me alone or stay away from me if he is screaming in my face. He begins to turn it around and tell me im berating him and I dont really love him. I do love him, i'm just not sure if i want to.

    He also has this thing where he always wants people to say yes. Even when i disagree with him he wants me to say yes. I can't do that, that is not how i'm wired and it really makes me mad that he insists everyone say yes to him. I don't think he understands how not normal that is.

    He says he wants to get married but I don't even know if i can believe him. I truly feel like he will never even begin to control this diesase...

  • The ADD-ers secret smile! by: Helen48 15 years 3 months ago

    I am wondering if others have noticed that when the ADD person in a relationship gets the other person upset, angry, etc. He/she has a slight smile. 

    It seems to me that he is enjoying himself (a) because he caused me upsetness; and (b) because he likes seeing me that way.

    When this happens in my relationship my anger is very hard to control: I could hit him really. This and his defensiveness are the worst symptoms of his ADD for me.

    I would be most interested to know about the feelings that others have when the 'secret smile' occurs in the other.

    (Dr. Phil put me on to this particular kind of smile some time ago in relation to another problem).

     

     

  • Maybe we need to start thinking outside of the box - warning, very long by: wishannastar 15 years 3 months ago

     

    Hi,

    I have been reading this site for about a year I think and I want to thank all of you for sharing your insights and experiences. I honestly don't know what I would do without you. 

    Two years ago my husband and I got married -- me for the second time, he for the third. We are both in our mid-50s. 

    I noticed that in the months preceding the wedding he seemed more distant and unapproachable. When I was feeling emotionally healthy, which was most of the time, I attributed it to the stress of his job. When I was having "one of those days" prior to a wedding where rational and logical are elusive, I worried that he didn't really want to marry me. ADD never occurred to me.

    After we were married, his ex-wife told me about the ADD diagnosis that he had been given several years prior to the time we met. She mentioned it in passing when we were discussing their daughter's ADD issues. 

    Now my untreated ADD husband and I are at an impasse. Yesterday we had a fight. As usual, I was asking for more attention. As usual before I even got three sentences out of my mouth, he was yelling at me that he has told me over and over again that he is who he is and if I can't live with it, I should leave.

    At this point I want to make sure, dear readers, that you understand that I truly don't believe that I ask for too much. I have taken to heart what I have read on this web site, and I am very careful to phrase my requests calmly, succinctly and most important -- rarely and when it is really important to me. However, that being said, I am human and therefore, susceptible to mistakes and occasional misperceptions so I am open to the possibility that I do it more often -- or perhaps in non-verbal ways -- than I realize.

    Yesterday I read a post from an man with ADD who said, " ... I am introverted, do not communicate my feelings, walk away from confrontations ... " Without a doubt, that is how I would describe my husband. 

    I, on the other hand, am an extrovert who likes social interaction. I could (not do!) talk about my feelings frequently, and do not (except when I am yelled at by my husband) walk away from confrontation. We couldn't be more different yet I know that behind the bluster is a kind, compassionate man who I love and who returns that love. I can see it in his eyes. 

    He hyper focuses on whatever happens to catch his fancy, and I am not what catches his fancy any more. He can research topics for days and days or get involved in projects for days and days and if I make the mistake of interrupting him -- watch out. He gets impatient and testy and the interaction is generally unsatisfactory. 

    He believes that if only I had strong passions about something that I wouldn't need his attention just as he doesn't need mine. I do have a number of passions but they are much longer lasting and nowhere near as intense. I still want a relationship when I'm feeling passionate about a topic! He thinks I'm bored. I am never bored. He also thinks I am codependent. Probably true. I often repress my needs to meet his and to prevent unkind outbursts of anger. He thinks that all I want is a playmate. I think some play is pleasurable and it's important to me. I think most people want a playmate/spouse sometimes. 

    I forgot to mention that because I once made the remark that he pays more attention to his dogs than me (well not anymore because he is no longer hyper focusing on them) that he now doesn't pet his dogs as much and he is really angry that I made him feel guilty about petting his dogs. And that all his life people have been trying to change him and get him to do things that he didn't want to do and that he is not going to let that happen with me. That's when he said that I need to accept him as he is or leave.

    By the way, he refuses to go to counseling because in the past when he did counseling, he reports that the therapists always made him feel like it was all his fault and he won't go through that again. And he doesn't believe the ADD diagnosis was correct anyway.

    Sorry, this has gotten way longer than I anticipated so I'll just go straight to this issue about which I need feedback. I am thinking about suggesting to him that we live in two different houses. I could rent an apartment and he could continue to live in our house. Our house suits him, it's away from town and has no really close neighbors. Downtown suits me just fine. 

    My thinking is that if he has his own space where he can focus all he wants without interruption, and if I am closer to town and can spend more of my time socializing and not expecting him to notice me because I'm not even in the house, then maybe we can manage to resolve this in a way that lets us both be ourselves -- two people who love each other but who need to live differently.

    Has anyone tried that approach? Did it have a positive or negative outcome?   Any thoughts would be appreciated. 

    Thanks.

     

     

     

     

  • Moving on by: mennen 15 years 3 months ago

    Well I have finally come to terms that my wife is not going to be able to deal whith my adhd and I dont blame her, But to have to find out that she was having a affair and that she seem's to think its no big problem even though the divorce isnt finaly is really a killer to me.   I still love her but I guess I understand why she must move on but I thought she wold at least wait untill we wernt married, this hurts more to me then the divorce does and even though i will over come my adhd I dont know if I can over come the fact that she was unfaithful to me, And she doesnt think she's doing anything wrong is just plain hurtfull

  • sexless relationship with new love/am i naive or are we doomed? by: lizzie 15 years 3 months ago

    I stumbled upon this website tonight as I sat here googling the same words over (ADD no sex mostly) and over trying to find a connection to someone or something that I could grab onto...my heart is heavy tonight and I'm at a loss at what to do. So far I'm overwhelmed with relief I've found these forums...you all are articulate, loving, and intelligent people and I'm grateful at how you've extended yourself to others. I hope I can be yet another lucky recipient of some words of inspiration, experience, and hope.

    I met "Jacob" 9 mos ago.  We met under the pretense of landlord/tenant: he needed to rent a room out, I needed a place to live.  Within 2 weeks we knew we had met someone special.  I moved from a separate room to sharing his bed with him within a month, and in that time we had mindblowing sex...the best of my life. Let me quantify that: we had sex ONCE in that month.

    9 mos later...wow. We're in love.  We want to spend the rest of our lives together.  There's a 12 yr age difference (I'm 36, he's 48..divorced with no kids...me no previous marriages or kids) and he has ADD. We've had sex maybe 5 times total. When we met, I was 80 lbs overweight and he told me as much as he knew it wasn't cool to say, that he had to be honest and say that me being skinny was the only thing that was going to turn him on to have that sex we had when we met.  (When I asked why the sex was so hot the first time while I was so much heavier, he gave what I now coin an ADD-ism "it was new/exciting...a distraction ...etc).Ladies...before you freak on my behalf...;)...at the time, I was more than willing to accept his point of view as acceptable...he was not unkind nor did he say it was an ultimatum. He's fallen for ME since his initial commentary on my bod, but we have agreed that being in love and not sexually attracted is a BIG PROBLEM...that we are in fact relegated to that of friends..or ironically, roommates as on the terms of how we initially met.  And at the time, I was on a medically supervised weight loss program that was very successful...I have lost over 100 lbs in a year, and have about 20 lbs to go. So I thought I'd feel like a hippocrit if I got angry for him saying what he really felt...I didn't like ME being fat, so how could I be mad that he didn't like it?) Jacob loves me because of my strength of commitment to myself in becoming healthy again (my weight gain primarily related to illness in years prior, but being 5'2" and pushing 270 lbs was unique...I had never been more than 30 lbs overweight my whole life) and seeing me succeed was a huge turn on for him.

    Just not enough of a turn on. I've gotten close to breaking thru that last 20 for 5 months now, and I feel myself stopping short of going all the way.  My own insecurities and cross to bear of course...but I think a lot of it has to do with me knowing now something I didn't know then about his ADD: that whole "instant gratification" thing...that whole "needs something shiny (or in this case uber-sexy)" to get his attention...I realize now that after I get to that size 4 he's waiting for, nothing is going to change.  His inability to engage in sexual intimacy is a way bigger issue than how I look. And I think I've known that deep down all along.  If he's Really In Love, how can he be so repulsed by me? ("You're not repulsive, darling, you're ahhhh-dorable..." man if I hear that again I'll scream! ;)) I should also add at this point: we wake up in each other's arms every morning, and fall asleep in each other's arms each night. Kissing, hugging...particularly "cuddling"...he looooves this, can't get enough of my affection and returns this affection in kind.  But when it comes to sex...man it's a bummer. The few times we've had it, I've basically had to ask if it was okay. I have yet to feel paid attention to like that first time we were together. He disconnects. He calls it luxuriating (me doing all the work, me giving all the oral, me always on top..he just lays there). My attentiveness to pleasuring him is never reciprocated and he thinks he's off the hook because he doesn't demand any of it from me....I am ALWAYS the instigator because I'm deathly afraid that any opportunity I don't take to be physical with him...even if it's just a one way street...will be another brick in the wall between us and sexual intimacy.

    Three weeks ago I asked if we could go see a therapist and he readily agreed.  He might be bipolar II...little ups and downs...nothing very dramatic in the high or low category...but his ADD utterly exhausts him.  So he cycles a bit between crazy levels of energy and matching eventual levels of lethargy/exhaustion. We were merely "interviewing" doctors when we found that we clicked with the first doc we met. Great...off to work.

    In three sessions, it's been mostly background. And Jacob has a doozy of one.  A real madhouse childhood, a divorce that left him acting out with lots of sex with strangers which sadly resulted in herpes.  I KNOW he has a lot of shame and guilt attached with that, but he's had one outbreak since we met and I know he uses it as an excuse not to engage sexually even though I also KNOW that between his childhood, his failed marriage, his sex acting out, the herpes....he has a lot of issues.  I don't expect answers or solutions overnight.  But I'm a pretty bright girl and equally impatient for some GLIMMER of hope. I've wanted the doctor to look at us and hear us and say "I know what this is and what it means for you two"...we talk and talk and talk...Jacob so much so it's almost overwhelming...and I already feel like I'm losing my voice. When we first attending counseling, I asked if we should come as a couple or just Jacob on his own.  The doc said both of us for a while.  In 3 weeks, Jacob and the Doc have done all the talking with the exception of Doc asking me a couple times what I wanted out the therapy and out of our relationship.  I replied that in all my reading and based on what I knew about Jacob already, that I was afraid his reliance on the notion that ADD was the root of ALL his problems was limiting.  That I thought depression was really in the mix.  That I viewed his ADD as facets of his personality and that I preferred to treat the ADD as a gift rather than a curse because I love, thrive on, and complement his creative, high energy level more than not.  But that I thought even if depression was an aspect of ADD, that I wanted to treat them differently.  I want him to learn coping and time management skills for the ADD and how to be more 'present' in our relationship, but that I want the depression treated, even if that means meds.  That I knew meds are a tricky thing on their own, and that finding the right combination for any one individual takes time and usually is achieved through trial and error...a concept that terrifies Jacob. And that while we are a newer couple, we've both been around the block and realize what we have together could equate to a truly harmonious and loving life together..we both want kids, the whole 9. So I'm in for the longhaul....I am committed to spending my life with Jacob. But I wonder...is it ACTUALLY possible to get what I want and need too? He'd do anything for me...but I'm afraid his ADD prevents him from doing so.  Or always will.

    After saying my 2 cents to the doctor, I was cutoff midsentence...I don't think he wants me in session but Jacob does...so I'm invited back again next week. The last 2 weeks have been all about his family. I get it....doc wants to fill in the picture. But since we started therapy, again, I feel like I have no voice when for months I've had one with Jacob...he's so loving and willing to talk about anything for hours on end...including my feelings...but is limited in his empathy because of the ADD.  He's listening and I'm not feeling heard.

    I guess I'm just reaching out tonight to see if anyone can resonate with any of this, give me any kind of reassurance that I'm not wholly naive and that we stand a chance...there are good days and bad days for everyone...ADD or non ADD...and I thought starting therapy would give me that nudge of hope.  But I feel like my needs are at the bottom of everyone's list...doc included.  But he seems to be perfect for Jacob.

    Anyone?

    Thank you.

  • What are my instincts telling me? by: hope09 15 years 3 months ago

    Part of me is scared to type but I feel like I can't keep my feelings in any longer.  I've given a million percent to my husband with ADHD and knew his problems before we got married.  Maybe I thought I could help him and my love would carry us thru.  I don't feel that way anymore.  I'm angry, depressed, confused, etc...just too many emotions and I feel like I'm aging years as the days go on...I'm only in my early 30s.  

    I'm not living life for me but for him.  He's very abusive...he says he hates me, hates when I touch him, calls me a c*nt, tells me to shut the f*ck up...that I shouldn't speak.  Everything I say or do angers him...my mere prescence sometimes.  He spends impulsively, drives erratic, he has no control over himself...always anxious and depressed and blames me.  We have amazing sex but...BUT he's addicted to pornography.  I can't say he's cheated but when you send pictures of your genitals to transexuals...what is a person supposed to believe? I can go on with the problems but I'll spare you.  

    I hate to give up because I did really love him...I feel like cruel evil things he says and done is making me numb to love and turned off by people.  I'm having a very hard time and internalize everything.  Lately I feel like oneday he may really hurt me or kill me...I'm having such bad thoughts.  The only reason why we need marriage counseling is because of his issues related to ADHD.  I honestly wanted him to focus on his own therapy because that is also all we can afford and what seemed priority.  I keep putting him first and this is just not a normal healthy way to live.  I know this...why did I get married when I knew of his disease?  Why is this happening to me?  I can't take anymore antidepressants...I wouldn't need any if it weren't for him.  I looong to be happy and loved...just want him to see me for me and respect me.  I just want somewhat of a stable life but its everyday!

    I've tried showing him this site before and he had no interest but I really would love him to recognize his issues and take control.  I don't know what would happen if he saw this post.  I wish I were able to write under the forums "joy in marriages"...I wished someday we would get there but I don't believe we will.  I feel like I should get a divorce now before its too late. 

  • Sexual Dysfunction and ADD by: jrc 15 years 4 months ago

    I have read a number of the posts regarding sexual desire and some related to erectile dysfunction related to those with ADD/ADHD. I, however, have a different sexual dysfunction- premature ejaculation. I am in my late twenties now, and the problem first showed itself when I was 22 or 23, but has been prevalent ever since. I have tried therapy, the stop start method, medicine (zoloft), other counseling with my wife, all to no avail. 

    My question is, is this something others with ADD have experienced? My wife has been patient and kind, but I know she is frustrated (as am I) and we aren't having very much sex as a result. I am currently treating my ADD with Strattera, but it has not impacted my sexual problem.

    Any help is appreciated.

  • working on self by: susi78 15 years 4 months ago

    a while ago I posted something here about when to divorce my husband who has ADHD.  I got some feedback which was helpful.  I have decided to go into counseling myself and even the therapist saw the amount of anger and resentment as a key point.  However for me what was driving behing alot of the anger and resentment was a lot of anxiety.  I never know what to expect day to day living with someone like this.  I am now on an anti-anxiety medication.  I walk...I do yoga... I now go to al-anon meetings..and she advised me to get away from him if he does stuff that is pushing my buttons (like go read or something).  So far this is working. 

    My guard is dropping a little to the point I don't even yell at him when he tells me he loves me and telll him to stop telling me that. 

    my focus is on me and my future now and it doesn't so much matter if he is in it or not.  I"m not pushing him away or activily yelling at him anymore like I was.  I am more happy this way.  Not to mention I'm getting physically healthier. 

    He responds to this by stating good for you. I do feel we lack intamacy.  I don't see him much through out the week.  And instead I'm finding other things to do that are positive so I'm not watching him space out and feeling rejected.  OR I"m not begging him for his attention and hearing him say that he is just so tired from work.  He only has so many hours home from work before he goes to bed and the guality of the hours he gives me is rather poor.  So instead I moved on and gave up.  My old best friend doesn't want to play "ball anymore."  So I guess I"m in morning now. But at least I'm not neglecting myself sitting in the sandbox alone anymore.  I've moved on.

    thanks for reading. 

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