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  • I need a pep talk! by: dvance 16 years 1 month ago

    Greetings All!

    I have posted here a few times before and I need a pep talk.  My DH of 13 years has ADHD, on 30 mg of Adderall XR.  Here's the thing: how do I get my needs met when he is checked out?  His engagement with us (me and our boys-ages 7 and 9) is very inconsistent.  For several weeks he is his nice regular self and then there will be a period of checked-out-ness.  I doubt an outside person would even notice, but I sure do and the kids are starting to also.  A few examples: there has been no sex in my house for a good six weeks.  This is way too long for me and I have brought it up many times and NOTHING changes.  DHs bedtimes are also very inconsistent--he will go several weeks of turning in at 9pm and then weeks of up until 11pm.  I go to bed pretty much at 10pm every night, so either he is already asleep or not yet in bed.  If I am reading he will just turn over and go to sleep without a word.  When I bring it up he says, well, you were reading I didn't want to bother you.  Oh please--we have been married for 13 years--bother me!!!  Another example: today he was off because our boys had a half day of school but I had conferences all day (I teach at the same school the boys attend) so he picked them up at 11:30.  I had made two doctors appointments for them this afternoon.  Yesterday I wrote out the schedule--pick up time, appointment times, swim lesson times, what was for dinner--that was totally helpful, except for the fact that he didn't know where the two appointments were having never been to those doctors.  Last night I asked if he wanted to know where he was going and he said not now, I'm really done right now.  Well, fair enough, but these take place tomorrow, when should I give you that information then????  So I told him this morning, but then I am running around trying to get out the door to MY job.  Here is what I am getting at: I take care of EVERYTHING of any importance.  When I am feeling burned out and used up there is no one to turn to, no one to pick up the slack for a bit while I lay back.  I pay the bills, make and keep the appointments (except today and it was a fair project), I make our social arrangements (schedule the sitter, plan the event).  On Saturdays I used to sleep in but I don't any more because the three of them basically sit around waiting for me to get up and make a plan.  I am truly exhausted right now and it's too bad because who is going to do this stuff if I don't????  I am feeling very woe is me, put upon right now.  We are going out on Saturday night--I got the sitter, emailed a bunch of friends to meet us for dinner, it will be a great evening, but all he has to do is show up.  Sunday I am going to a fancy brunch with a friend and he will take them home and it will be fine, but meanwhile nothing will get done at home.  He did do laundry last week, but I sorted it and told him what temp. everything needed--it would not have occurred to him to look in the hamper and do it himself. 

    Gosh, I make is sound like DH is useless and that's not it.  I wonder often how others married to ADHD folks deal with the inconsistent engagement.  I am starting to resent that I do such a complete, thorough job of making sure his needs are met (as part of our whole family, not in some weird spoiling way) but I don't get the same courtesy.  I often say to him, hey, take some time for yourself on Saturday, I'll plan something for me and the kids, but he rarely says the same to me.  Reading the posts here I accept that the non-ADHD person pretty much has to run things or they don't get done, but what happens when the non-ADHD person needs a breather from being the manager of the family?  then who do I call????

    thanks for the venting space.

    dana

  • I've Left, I am Healthier than Ever, then Why am I Miserable. by: up2lisa 16 years 1 month ago

    It will soon be a year since I first came to this site with many months in between my last post.  My problems came to a peek when my ADD husband after I left the home began to fight me for the custody of our 2 children.  It truly got as bad as bad could get my “boy next door, good Christian man and best friend” became the most deceptive, malicious and irresponsible man I have ever met.  Despite my fears and pleas for assistance for intervention from “our mutual friends and family” for over 11 years, because I left my husband; I received no assistance. 

     

    Nearly 7 moths of hell, $7,000.00, our business in shambles, and our home 10 days from  foreclosure, a light came on in my husbands mind and he just simply STOPPED fighting!  He asked me to consider reconcile, to which I said no.  And despite saying no, just like that he started to collaborate!  Within a week he signed over primary custody of our children to me!   He signed over primary custody, gave back to me the primary responsibility of managing the business and gave me access to move into our marital home or back to the state of my choosing.    

     

    My ADD Husband spent more energy fighting me in 7 months then he did in the 11 years of our marriage trying to work on our problems.  In 7 months he spent more energy focusing on his hatred for me and how to destroy me, than addressing his ADD diagnosis.  My ADD husband filed for divorce faster and than he filed for his income tax return!  He paid his attorney before he paid for the mortgage.   He called his cronies to devise tactics before he would pick up the phone to call his children.

     

    Only to in the end for $300.00 draft and file a custody agreement with the children living with me during the week and visiting him all the weekends but the last. 

     

    So, here we are! Here I am on this site as if I am going through ADD Spouse withdrawals.  I’ve been gone for nearly 15 months and have entered into a new relationship.  My new relationship has its own problems, but NOTHING like those I had with my spouse, for the most part it is most everything I didn't have with my husband.  I've moved back to our joint state for the benefit of our children.  My ADD husband now lives 3 miles from my current home and for the past 4 months since I moved here.  It now begins to seem as if he is getting more and more comfortable with the arrangement., me living here alone and him living there alone.  Since we are not legally divorced, I still maintain access to our marital home.  I go and come as I please, to impose some discomfort that will help him get off the stick and get it ready for sale.  But, he is not phased by my ability to imposition him. 

    Despite the fact that I am in another relationship, it is as if my ADD Husband is attempting to build a friendship with me again.  It is as if he has grown comfortable with himself beng alone and the kids sometimes. It is as if he is waiting on me, without my concent.  Praying for me, for us...scriptures, bibles everywhere.  Yet, when I go to the house I see he has let it go down hill, the piles of paper are everywhere and the bills are months behind.  His ADD is all over the house.  It is almost as if, I can now see how much I was doing.  THE MAN IS A MESS!  But, HE thinks he is ok and HE thinks he is making strides to gain my affection.  I don’t think there has been a weekend YET, where he can REMEMBER IF HE HAS THE KIDS!  Did you read, he has them “every weekend but the last.”

     

    My problem:  I was once a committed Christian and I so desire the be whole spiritually again.  But, look at me now.  Look at my “walk.”  I am gone and in another relationship and here is my husband.  I loved the commitment of being married, I just hated my marriage.  But I miss what marriage meant to me and my children.  I can not go back to what was, but I want to go back for what MAY be.  I come to this site to remind myself of the dysfunction that I left; but now with the reality of diagnosis of ADD (one received a month before I left and refuted 2 months after I left).  Its not his fault.  But, its not mine either!  Yet, I feel like the guilty one. 

     

    I haven’t said a word of reconciliation to my husband.  I haven’t even hinted to a plan of any kind.  But, I want to try… I want him to try.  I want us to go to counseling, I want him to be the man I have now but with OUR 11 year commitment, I want him to take his medication and I want to rebuild...I want him to have leaned SOMETHING and invest the same energy as he did to destroy everything to building everything aknew.  But, I am TERRIFIED to go back, leave what I have and end up with less than what I had before I left.  I am afraid I am being idealistic... again, setting unrealistic expectations...again and having hope...again.

     

    Yes, I can forgive my husband.  Yes, I can work hard and commit to my marriage.  U understand now that my husband "needs glasses," he can not "focus" on his own.  I can not be his eyes and I can not blame him for his vision.  But, can he wee his life ... OUR LIFE with the ADD…truly.  I don’t want to live like this and I don’t want to live like that.  I feel as if I am being punished, challenged and about to fail a trial as a Christian and as a mother or win personal victory.for my own survival.  I feel this is greatest challenge of my life and I simply don’t know what the challenge is? 

    L

  • Just Watched EWTN Abundant Life with Dr. Hallowell. What a blessing. Help for a Christian Struggeling with ADD HUSBAND by: up2lisa 16 years 1 month ago

    Last night I was on this site, I really needed to assess where I am and if I am on the right track with myself emotionally.  Now that my husband and I are no longer together, I see this site as a tie to stay connected to what was my reality.  

     

    A combination of one thing or another I have pulled away from seeking God, but over the past few days I have set the TV to record one Christian show or another.  It just so happened that I set the TV to record Abundant Life.  I am not a catholic, but I was drawn to the show by the title.  Today was the first day that the show recorded.  Instead of watching the day long of election, I went to see what I had recorded.  After deleting several also recorded Christian shows, too positive, to pessimistic, to condemning… I clicked on the Abundant Life recording. The topic ADHD!!!  Was this God seeking me or what!

     

    The topic ADHD, it was a good 10 minutes into the show when the host began to talk about the book Driven to Distraction, that I recalled the picture of Dr. Hallowell I had so often noticed on this site… AND IT CLICKED! That’s the guy, the pleasant looking guy on the ADD Marriage site!!!!

     

    My husband aka almost ex-husband has thrown himself into religion and in the course of doing so, he denounces that he has ADD.  I haven’t been on this site in some months and have since left my husband.  My greatest struggle is balancing my faith with the reality of what my life was like with my ADD husband and my pending divorce.  I am going to write in another post regarding where I am at now with my husbands ADD. 

     

    I will use this post for any possible discussion or feedback about ADD and faith.  I know there may not be any scriptures in the bible about ADD, but are there any scriptures or guidance I can share with my husband to open his eyes that ADD IS REAL and he too is perfectly created with it…but we have to address it.  I feel like if it isn’t in the bible, he won’t address it as he is trying to pray it away.

     

    I will await the second part of the series.  The show hasn't addressed faith as of yet, I hope it will.  But, just being on a Christian site will let Christians know... it is real!

     

    GOD Bless you!

     

    Lisa

  • What can I do??? by: SadHubby 16 years 1 month ago

    I suffer with ADHD hyperactivity and impulsivity.  As a kid, I was diagnosed with ADHD with the same issues when I was in kindergarten.  I took ritalin up until I started high school and my parents took me off of it b/c I became involved in sports.  I graduated from high school and went on to college and graduated.  I am 42 now and am successful in my career.

    About 5 months ago, my wife and I started to have some marriage difficulties which really brought a lot of my adhd symptoms to the service.  I read both of Dr. Hallowell's books and, unknowingly, I have managed to survive and be fairly successful by applying the tips to be successfully manage my adhd symptoms without medication for all of these years.  Nonetheless, I am an adult sufferer of ADHD and this has caused A LOT of damage to my marriage.

    My wife is the love of my life.  Nonetheless, about 5 months ago she felt that she was becoming lost in our marriage and she lost herself and her identity.  In the process, she built up a lot of anger and resentment towards me.  In all of this, the communication between the two of us broke down and she put up huge walls around herself to protect herself b/c I over reacted by not being the sole focus of her life.  I don't want to be her sole focus but I also do not want to be no focus either.

    Over the past five months she has taken off her wedding rings.  Moved me into our daughter's bedroom.  Has told me on a few occasions that she wants a divorce.  Has given me the "I need space" lecture many times to figure things out. 

    Three months ago, I went to the psychiatrist and he started me back again on fast acting Ritalin.  During the day, I seem to focus pretty well.  The meds work for about 4 hours and then wear off.  I take 10 mg 3x's /day. 

    Around 8 o clock, I start to lose focus and we get into our arguements around bedtime.  I think part of it is I want to let her know that I am trying and I love her. Also, I am pissed b/c I want back in my bed with my wife.  My daughter's bed is too short and I can't get a good night sleep.  We fight or argue around 10 o clock and the next day I get up and say...why did I do that?  Is there a rebound or withdrawl effect  b/c the meds are wearing off.

    The problem is I set out to try and give her the space that she needs but I continually blow up every attempt that I make to try and do this.  I can go for about 3-5 days but then I do something stupid.  I don't want to go another 5 months let alone five days like this.

    All I want is for my wife and I to be happy.  She realizes that I have add but she says that that shouldn't be an excuse for my behavior.  I love her and the kids and she says for me to show her rather than tell her. 

    If anyone has experienced this or can provide help or insight...I am willing to listen.

    I don't want to lose my wife and family.  But because I have blown things up so much...she thinks my word isn't very good right now.

    Please help!!!

  • Competing for Sex by: Katherine 16 years 2 months ago

    Having to ask for sex is demeaning.  Having to ask for sex, being told "yes", anticipating intimacy, and then nothing happening is cruel.   Having an ADD partner has it's challenges, but none is more difficult for me than the yo-yo of our sex life.  He and I deal with my life long depression and my medications greatly affect my ability to be aroused.  Consequently our sex life tends to be one sided.  That does not bother me, and I actually get pleasure from watching my husband's pleasure, but sometimes it needs to be my turn.

    I realize that planning is not the strong suit of ADD.  I realize that I am fighting an uphill battle, but it is difficult to find yourself, and your needs, at the bottom of the list every time.  The tricks used at work to remember important information can also be used to remember personal preferences.  I know in our younger years that arousal came easily, but things are different now, my meds are stronger now and I need stimulus to cause my brain to do the work my body used to do so easily.

    Sex for me is much more than physical pleasure.  It noticably eases my depression and gives me the feeling of being loved, which also seems to affect my depression.  I have explained that to my husband over and over, and still he does not initiate sex until I have requested it multiple times and then probably lost my temper, which is really just a response to hurt feelings.  Half of the pleasure is feeling desired, not needy.  Knowing that he finds me attractive and wants only me.  Repeatedly asking to be invited to the party, takes away much of the pleasure.  It makes me feel like I am too much work.

    If anyone has dealt with this and has a suggestion for a frustrated 58 year old, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Thanks,

    Katherine

     

     

     

     

  • Pregnancy and ADD by: dk8654 16 years 2 months ago

    I am a 29 year old woman diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago.I have been in a replationship for 11 years now , and married for the last year and a half. My husband and I are thinking of having kids and are seeing a marrige counselor now to go through alot of issues before we take that big leap (eek).

    But my bigest hold up in this whole process and one I have found extremly limited information about is, if I am taking Adderall (and that lack of info is not just linked to this drug), and I want to get pregnant what should I do.

    My  delima is, I have progressed so well on my medication inconjunction with increasing my skills in terms of coping, organizing etc that I am in a work situation where I really feel (along woth my psycologist) that I would not be able to do my job without the help of medication, I would have to go part time and give up alot of what I do, or get fired. I have tried (or forgotten to take medication on work days) and have had a really hard time. When I explained it to my husband, and it made the most sense I sdid it this way.... When you have the flu but you need to go to work you go and you do you job, but every minute is a struggle. You can't think straight, you keep forgetting what you were doing, you make mistakes but every 5 minutes you have to give youself a peptalk to keep going. That is what is feels like for me at work with ne meds. The thought of having to do that for 1= years between tring to have a baby and actually doing so is unbearable.

    My Psycatrist (diffrent from my regular therapist) says that she doesn't like to prescribe it to pregnant women at all. My OBGyn says he doesn't like to unless the benefits outweigh the risks. My regular dr says I should talk to the other two. My psycologist (whom I have seen weekly for 2 years now) has also found very little information, she even said that one person told her that european OBGyn's were more likley to be OKay with perscribing a stimulant during pregnancy, but that is the best she has heard. I feel like none of them really know what to say to me because there are no studies.

    When I read through forums and blogs online like this one it is just women who also don't know waht to do(http://family.go.com/parenting/) sharing what limited information they have, but having one women in Iowa who lied to her doctor and stayed on the drugs and had a healthy baby at delivery is not what I consider good data to go by.

    ADD books and magazines have little to no information in them. Even the Women in Add book had only 2 paragraphs (two freaking paragraphs!) on the topic. They all say talk to you doctor.... some women have reduced symptoms during pregnancy etc... Well, my doctor and it seems most other doctors don't know either.

    It is hard to imagine that there is no data outhere to help make an informed decision.

    I just feel that in a marrige having kids is a huge decesion, and staying on medication is a logistical complication that ADD brings into the mix that no one seems to want to touch with a 10 foot pole.

  • The Work-Neglect Continuum - Balance with an ADD Partner by: callista142 16 years 2 months ago

    I am in a rather new but serious relationship with a man who has nearly debilitating ADHD. If he is unmedicated he will go off grid and be unreachable, and contacting me doesn't occur to him. This I understand is not a slight against me and have made peace with it.

    The issue I have is his tendency to become so focused on work, which he is especially passionate about since we both work for philanthropic causes. Probably not the healthiest of work schedules but we still feel too passionate to do less. There are days where we both come home exhausted but others I only get a, "Hello...going to bed." It is like the entirety of his mind is focused on work and remembering that I'm a few feet away is less than an afterthought. What's funny is that I know the reason and am usually successful at not taking it personally.

    What I need to know is how to I remind him that I do need some occasional attention in a proper way?

    Usually having some built-in personal space because of this phenomena is comforting but now I worry for the relationship. My typical relationship playbook doesn't cover dealing with medically induced neglect.

  • Why is my ADHD husband so short tempered and angry? by: AJ 16 years 2 months ago

    We've been married over a year. We really do love each other, I swear. But lately, I'm concerned about how he treats me. He is responsibly addressing his ADHD (I guess) by seeing a doctor. He takes concerta, prozac, and some other drug (recently) for road rage. (I can't believe there even IS such a drug!)

    He is responsible, intellegent and functional. But he seems to lack some "emotional intellegence or compassion." Lately, he is sharp, sarcastic, short-tempered, and basically not pleasant to be around at all. The smallest thing sets him off and he often over-reacts to life's small frustrations. Oh, and he is ALWAYS right.

    I'm a very strong woman, and his words do not affect how I feel about myself in general. But if I were not strongly grounded, I think I would be well on my way to a low self esteem -because of the way he speaks to me and treats me sometimes. He has explained that is a symptom of his "ADHD" but I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this.

    Sometimes it's embarrassing to be around other people. If friends were to witness our interaction at the wrong time, it would appear that he is a macho, cocky, know-it-all husband and I am the submissive, weaker, wife. (Which is NOT the case at all because I would never put myself in relationship like that...or at least that's what I've always thought.)

    I'm almost to the point where I'll go out of my way to avoid him. But it's kind of hard since we live together. I'm not a nag. I give him plenty of space. If he were my boyfriend, I'd probably arrange a strategy to avoid him for several days so he could appreciate me more when we got together.

    We have had conversations about this. He has explained that he is unaware of his tone and delivery and blames it on his ADHD. But I'm tired of bringing it to his attention.

    I really care for him and love him. He frequently assures me that he loves me too. Despite his time-bomb shortness, there is much love and respect in our relationship.

    It makes me sad to see him living with so much anger. I try very very hard not to take it personally and consider his illness. How much of this anger is related to personality? medication? ADHD?

    Thanks

     

     

  • Codependency and when to leave the relationship by: outdoorsgirl1974 16 years 2 months ago

    As I read a lot of posts,I see the same issue of the non ADD spouse wondering when enough is enough.My question is a two part one and I am interested to hear what Melissa has to say as well as others thoughts.

    At what point do you leave the relationship and when is it considered being codependant and "Unhealthy?"

    It seems ADD by nature has all the codependant signs to go with it.It sets you up for being that way as a lot of times your forced to "take care" of everything.You then get into trying to control their actions,mothering,nagging,etc. for the well being of the family.So is it not considered codependant and a "Healthy relationship" if they ARE self sufficient?(Taking meds,counseling,reading the books,trying hard to be responsible,etc.)However if they are NOT making an effort at all then it would be considered an "Unhealthy relationship"??Am I understanding that correctly?

    As I currently am in a class for this very thing..codependancy,which is very helpful...for me it raises the question...Ok how is this different than a drug/alchohol/sexual addiction where they refuse to change or get help?In that case,anyone would say..."Oh yes!The healthy decision is to get out of the relationship ASAP and move on with healing yourself!"Yet when it is ADD you get a different response of..."Well they have ADD and can't help it so you should be sympathetic and put up with it." My question is,how is it different when they ALL show the same behaviors of not wanting to change?Granted,those are addictions and this is ADD,but the behaviors are the same of refusing to change and telling you where they think you should put those books,ideas of counseling,etc...where the sun don't shine...if you know what I mean.

    It just seems that no one speaks of the facts,that being in an ADD relationship COULD be unhealthy.Instead of..."Oh you need to work with them,feel sorry for them,etc!"Don't they have the same responsibilites as all responsible adults do in this world?The consequences of the alcholic who won't go to rehab is he looses his family.The consequence all too often with ADD is that the partner sticks it out and trys even harder next time and so the cycle continues.I agree that you have to try all avenues and be willing to work at it...but there comes a point when some of us are starting to give up who we are as individuals in extreme ways.Is it as simple as..."If they are willing to work with you and are open to change...then stay.If they are not willing to work with you at all and refuse to change...leave!"I don't know because there are so many excuses society puts out there because its "ADD",so it makes it a double edged sword for the non ADD spouse and you feel so guilty if you do leave....because after all,"they can't help it!"I am not trying to be mean...its just something to think about.

    I told my therapist just last week what is going on in my relationship....all the very same things everyone on here talks about.The frustration,the sadness,the loneliness,the anger,etc and her response was..."Your not in a healthy relationship".So doesn't that proove my argument correct?After all..thats coming from a professional.Anytime your needs aren't being met,thats considered unhealthy....right?So I then told her...."Well...OK...but he doesn't beat me,he isn't verbally abusive,doesn't cheat,etc."She said,thats setting the standard too low.Your settling for a relationship that isn't working for you".A lot of these posts are..."not working for the non ADD partner"...so what do you do?They refuse to change or "not recognize how their ADD affects everything"....so when do you leave if it turns "Unhealthy"?How long SHOULD you put up with it?If it was a drunk were talking about,society would say get out...NOW!Its all the same feelings for the spouse...so if you think about it,what is the difference?I also get how it is a personal decision for everybody and it isn't anyone else's place to determine when YOU should get out and in the end it does have to be your decision...but just some general opinions would be great!

    I may be completely in left field on this,but I keep thinking about it..what is anybody else's thoughts?

  • Help Me Please by: HelenJ 16 years 2 months ago

    I was married to my husband for five years.  I was not told by his family of any problems. After we were married I began to notice strange behavior.  He seemed easily frustrated, he was always on the go, he would fly off quickly, he always felt as if he was the lesser person.  After about a year I spoke with family members about him and they told me of his behavior as a child.  He had attempted suscide several times, he would leave school, he was then and still is now a loner.  His social skills are strange to me, He would tell me he felt intimated by me.  His sleeping habits are not good. I was his 4th wife and now he's going to marry the 5th one.  We argured all the time, He said I lost him when we talked, he only liked to talk about 15 min, he would focus on tv a lot.  I was often referred as a southern black woman by him, he spoke very low of women from the south, even though he was born in the south.  We are now divorced and I have suffered a lot of emotional damage, often used profanity with me, he would always be sad afterwards. what I don't understand is how he could control it so well, Around people he is quiet.  Now that we are divorced, I have tried to remain friends with him but I find it difficult to do so.  He lashes out at me from time to time still it hurts badly.  He said I talk to much, when I ask what did I say he responds, see you talk to much.  Can someone help me, I need the him it has been a tremendous emotional strain on me.

    Thanks 

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