Hi all,
I have been fairly vocal over the past 2-3 weeks as a new member with a lot to say. The postings have been interesting, informative, insightful, depressing, inspiring, and more--- all at once! I only wish there were more responses, more rapidly....
As a counselor, a professor, and (I hope) a thoughtful person, I would like to state some thoughts. For background, my husband was diagnosed with ADD about 4 years ago and is 43 years old. We've been married for 9 months.
Admittedly, I was hesistant to give much credence to his diagnosis early on as controversy abounds in some circles regarding whether or not ADD really exists or is simply a different "way of being". Still, I noticed early on how unique his responses were compared to others I had encountered.
After reading countless postings, articles, books, and well, frankly 3 years of getting to know my now husband, I feel more condident in acknowledging that ADD does indeed exist!!!!
All that said, I have noticed a common thread in many of the postings, and that is, that ADD is being attributed as the cause of a lot of marital discourse. I think there might be more than meets the eye here...
It is nearly impossible to tease apart what ADD, developmental lifespan issues, situational, and/or individual differences bring to the table in terms of helping or hindering a marriage. By lifespan developmental issues, I mean issues related to growing older and being in a long-term relationship (dare I say, mid-life transition?) People get bored. They grow apart. They come to terms with their own mortality at the most, and at the least, are formally introduced to it during middle-age. Secondarily, one needs to take into account situational factors: births, deaths, sudden losses, stressors of all kinds. Things that don't happen every day yet can effect one's mood state and behaviors. Moreover, one's unique, personality/temperment needs to be considered, not to mention one's cultural upbringing. These elements too, play a role in determining one's behavior. When was one born? Where? What was going on at the time? What were the influences of family? School? Life experiences? What about genetics? Add to all of that, the influence of drugs/alcohol, multiple diagnoses, etc.
ADD is but one factor and cannot explain all behaviors or all marital discord. There are a whole host of other factors as well.
At the end of the day, if our marriage is dissatisfying, it is interesting and possibly helpful to determine the reason, but the reason almost doesn't matter as much as the solution/problem-solving part of it. (This is the cognitive-behavioral theorist in me talking). Causes are somewhat important and interesting to discover yet do not solve the issue at hand without action. It is only when both parties acknowledge something is awry can change be implemented successfully.
Recent forum posts (all topics)
- Lifespan Developmental, Situational, Individual Differences -----Not ADD-attributable by: Electra125 16 years 9 months ago
- ADHD & Personality Disorders by: Distressed 16 years 9 months ago My husband has severe ADD, he takes focalin and suffers all the traditional ADD symptoms, additionally he has a deep sense of sadness, feels worthless and masks his lack of joy with either a funny, upbeat, loud, annoying, or know it all personality. Shortly after our baby was born 2 years ago he began to display anger when our baby cried and his lack of self esteem really began to show through, only to me, not to others. He never complained about anything in our marriage and then all of a sudden declared he was unhappy and moving out, I begged him to finally see a therapist, something I've been asking him to do for years, he sees a psychiatrist but all he does is refill the focalin. A month later he moved out and I discovered a 6 month long affair with a girl he introduced me to. I of course filed for a divorce. The girl he had the affair with quickly stopped speaking to him and his world crashed around him. Suddenly, he realized he was all alone and had ruined his life and all that he loved but felt it is what he deserves as he is worth nothing and deserves nothing. I believe he has very strong traits of borderline personality disorder and some of narcissistic personality disorder. His therapist has told him he has a spending addiction (no doubt about that) and a sex addition. I find it hard to be angry at him anymore given all of this, I just feel sad and hope he can get help so he can be the father his baby deserves. He has even started to hurt himself, cutting himself and hitting himself. He tells me that his therapist agrees that he has traits of both BPD and NPD but says that he doesn't have the full blown personality disorders but rather the traits are caused by both the child abuse and abandonment from his childhood coupled with his ADD. He says he has a dark, deep, blackened hole in his soul from where the love of his parents should be, and it seems nothing can fill it, but he continually tries with all the destructive behavior. He says that the therapist has suggested that perhaps these disorders don't exist but rather feels they are all just symptoms of severe ADD. I'm just wondering if you have heard that such is the case as well? And is it possible to recover from this, not cure the ADD, but at some point not feel totally worthless and that you deserve nothing and stop engaging in such self destructive behavior? I'm very concerned for my husband and want my baby to have a father she can have a meaningful relationship with.
- Impulse Control with ADD? by: JamieI 16 years 9 months ago Has anyone experienced impulse control with their ADD spouse? My husband and I have very different libidos, and due to our conflicts in marraige, don't always have as much intimacy as he would like. That being said, almost everytime I've gone away on a business trip, I come home to find he's been trolling on adult-only sites of any given variety... he keeps telling me it's the ADD and he can't help himself when I'm not there to temper the urge to "go look". I'm calling this BS... He says the disorder limits his impulse control and I should just not get so upset about it... anyone?
- ADHD and cross-cultural communication by: wnkirp 16 years 9 months ago I am 55 years old and have been recently diagnosed with ADHD (and been doing a fair amount of reading as well). I have also been married for 24 years. Reading the forums has been very interesting because I can see a lot of the rocky times that my wife and I have had in the posts and replies. However, there is one thing that I didn't see mentioned. I was born and raised in the United States. My wife is ethnic Chinese and grew up in Southeast Asia. (She came to the U.S. in her early twenties.) She is very well-educated and smart and her English is fluent (and I can speak her native tongue less well) so there is no "fundamental" language problem. However, I had some problems with depresion about fifteen years ago and I discovered than that there seemed to be some cultural barriers in talking about "mental illness." It was a subject that she was very uncomfortable with and tended to talk about in a very negative way (at least the way that I heard it). I would use the "eyeglasses" analogy with her about the medication that I took for my depression and that didn't do much for her. I haven't talked to her about the ADHD diagnosis yet. My primary care physician - who has seen me for about 25 years - was the person who recommended I get evaluated. She knows about my depression and about the "cultural" communication problems with my wife. And, though I felt a little squemish, I felt comfortable going to get evaluated without telling my wife. But I am now a little worried/confused about whether I should even bring the subject up or just work on things on my own. It can get discouraging to try to communicate with her because her "negative" filters seem to be pretty strong.
- disconnect in marriage by: Michelle 16 years 9 months ago My husband was diagnosed with ADHD this past year and is currently talking medication which has certainly helped and was a courageous first step. He read some of Driven to Distraction and it brought him to tears. The diagnosis explained so much of his frustration from childhood and now. We have been living apart for about a year and a half and are both in individual therapy. I have encouraged him to see someone that can specifically help him with his ADHD but I think he is tired of going to therapy. (as am I, so I can certainly understand) We love each other, however recently my husband stated that sometimes love is not enough and he does not think he can be in a marriage. That he can not be what I want him to be. (a husband, father, partner in life) I am heart broken. There is a disconnect between us we can not get past. You do not often find love like we have, but he seems unwilling to move forward. I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like I am waiting. He feels like he is wasting my time. I do not want to give up on being with the man I know I was supposed to share my life with. -M
- I feel single within a marriage by: Electra125 16 years 9 months ago I have been married for 9 months to a wonderful, handsome, energetic man who was diagnosed with ADD about 4 years ago. I assumed I was totally prepared emotionally, psychologically, and financially for what waited us. I am 41 years old. He is 43. It's my first marriage and his second. We have no children, but do have a loving 8 month old yellow labrador retriever whom we both adore. My concern is that my husband is never home! He works 12-14 hour days and travels at least 3-4 times a month, sometimes for up to a week at a time. He does not financially support me. I have been in my field (Counseling) for 20 years, and am financially sound. He, on the other hand, has been employed by his particular employer for 3 years, and cannot say no to any assignment. He reminds me of me at 25 years of age. I, on the other hand, am desperate to start the second phase of the life I dreamed about: One with a husband and a puppy and a home. I was single and lonely for so very long...Because of hard work, luck &good financial planning early, I am in a position to make all of those dreams come true. I just don't feel that I have a partner in this and am extremely worried that we won't make it. My husband wants a wife, a home, a dog, (maybe even kids!), but is hardly present. Again, he does not support me. I, in fact, am buying us a home. To be fair, he will be contibuting to the mortage payments, but I am the one with the majority of financial assests.Currently, he does not pay my mortgage. The idea was that he get himself together financially, which he has indeed done. Can anyone relate to this? We are not kids. I am pretty worried, and honestly unhappy in my marriage, although I love him dearly.
- Communicating with Motivation by: apollo 16 years 9 months ago Here is a question of mine that I'd like to toss out there for some feedback. The question is how do you get your ADD spouse to do something you really need done without making them feel inferior, less, defensive and/or unmotivated? We all know that a person with ADD is more likely to accomplish tasks/goals if they feel motivated to do so. I've also learned from this site as well as other research that very often if a person with ADD feels nagged he/she will "shut down" and a domino effect occurs resulting in no follow through and anger and resentment on both sides. My sister-in-law shared with me that she communicates with her ADD husband in a way that makes him want to do what she needs him to do. How does she do this? How do all of you do this? Can you give examples? (Please understand that I am not referring to manipulation as this is cruel and selfish. My question is a tricky topic to try to explain while keeping brief on a blog. Rather, I am trying to get at the core of how you communicate with a person with ADD so that they feel motivated to do what you need done - "need" being reasonable and fair requests.)
- Behavior ends relationship by: scott 16 years 9 months ago Hi this is my first post here. I was diagnosed with ADHD about 3 years ago and was on Adderoll XR since then but have struggled to take it regularly and haven't taken it at all since last fall. Im gay and have been in a committed relationship the last 9 years. I work for myself as a contractor which I believe is very detrimental to me with ADHD. I struggle to finish projects and always have clients angry with me even though they love my creativity and are usually very happy with the project itself just unhappy with my inability to schedule and finish the most minor of details. I haven't been seeing my therapist and have admittedly let my treatment slip into the toilet. I had used my partners credit cards without his knowledge and amassed about 10,000 in bills on 2 cards, 99% of the expenses were related to my work and I thought I could pay them off without his knowing what I had done, a terrible mistake and fatal to our relationship. I do not have this behavior issue in other areas , I do not steal from anyone, although my partner says I have stolen from him by doing this, my brain doesn't process it like that but I bet everyone else sees it like he does. I am very sorry for what I've done and especially that it has ruined our relationship, he is such a great person and has had to deal with me and my adhd problems throughout our relationship. Most of my issues with ADHD manifest themselves in my financial life. I struggle to pay bills, I lost my health insurance last fall about the time i stopped my medication and quit going to my doctor. I know i need to get back to the doctor and get back on meds, they did help me a lot when i took them as directed. I don't know what I hoped to accomplish by posting here, I wondered if anyone else had such bad behavior, I feel so terrible about what I've done. Amazingly most all of our friends have contacted me to to tell me they love me and that they will help anyway they can. Well I guess I need to get packing, I have to move out of our house this week while he is on vacation, how could I have done this to someone who cared so much for me? I don't blame him for having to end this, why should he sacrifice his happiness while I can't get myself together to be an equal partner in the relationship. He says that breaking the trust we had is what did the damage and I can see that. Has anyone else here had similar problems, did my ADHD cause me to do something so dishonest and hurtful?
- Modafinil and Buproprion by: griwei 16 years 9 months ago Using both Modafinil and Buproprion? Diagnosed a little more than a year ago, at 39. Concerta and Adderall both posed dysthymic side effects, even when the latter was paired with Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin definitely helped impulsiveness too. In Canada, we're still awaiting the newer stimulant formulations. We do have access to Provigil (Alertec), however. I have the psychiatrist's blessing to start a trial while we wait for other stimulant choices, but what I want to know is whether I can keep the Wellbutrin (maybe lowered to 150mg/d from 300mg/d). Anybody familiar with taking both of these drugs for combination ADHD without any comorbid conditions or disorders? I understand that they may interact in a manner so as to increase each others potency, but if I'm starting on the lower 100mcg/d dose of Modafinil and the lower dose of Buproprion, I don't see that as much of a problem. I should mention that my curiosity is led by the fact that the psychiatrist doesn't write the prescriptions. He just sends a letter to my GP and we discuss where to go from there. The green light came last week and the drugs start next week, after a baseline liver number has been established (and I've dropped the Wellbutrin, either to 150/d or zero). Thanks in advance.
- Need Help in Colorado Fast! by: mdombrow 16 years 9 months ago My wife has ADHD and it has never been treated properly (she really just found out she had it). We need an ADHD specialist. We are tired of using doctors that "sort of know about it" and just throw medicine at you. Can anyone recommend a specailist in the Denver Metro area? Thanks A Insanely Frustrated Husband about to Loose it :-)