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  • How to tell the difference between ADHD and selfishness, neglect, and verbal abuse by: Holding onto Myself 8 years 9 months ago

    I have been married to my partner for about 10 years. When we started dating, he was the only guy I felt stood by me while I dealt with my own childhood issues in therapy. I never felt less than because of him. About 14 years onward I find that what I first saw as acceptance was really a failure to truly understand me at all. My partner will occasionally ask me about my day, but he never comments on anything other than to say "OK" or "I'm sorry" if it was bad. If I have a question about my career, and I am looking for my partner to provide perspective as he should know me better than anyone, he says, "I don't know." When I was diagnosed with a permanent condition that explained years of pain and physical limitations and will only worsen as time passes, he did not look it up at all nor ask me about it. A week after diagnosis, I asked him what he thought and he said, "I don't know, I don't know anything about it." It's been two months and he still has not looked into it. All of these answers are followed by my partner looking back at his phone or computer and being done with the conversation. Later, he told me that what I have is not a big deal as lots of people have things and "why is everything medical with you?" Please note I am a very fit, slender person who was struggling a long time with no support emotionally or physically from my partner with regard to my pain or fears. For me, the diagnosis was almost a relief as I finally knew what was wrong and I could do my best to improve what I can. As my job was worsening my pain and symptoms, I had to quit. My partner told me in a very nasty tone that I should sell my car because we need money. I thought that was a little short sighted as I have always been employable to a good degree, and I figured it would just be a matter of months at most before I have a new job that is better for my health, which has improved drastically since I quite my job and been working with my provider on therapy and diet.

    My partner is undiagnosed and heretofore I have been giving him the benefit of the doubt and have been working on improving myself for years, but these recent experiences suggest to me that although I invest a lot of time supporting my partner's career when he asks for help, which can be multiple times a day, I do not receive equal care and concern. I wanted to believe this was ADHD and ask him to please please consider therapy (he is adamant that counselors and psychiatrists are all crazy themselves, including marital therapists). My counselor, who has known him since we were dating, says it's not ADHD but selfishness that causes him to do what he does. The long history I've had with him suggests he is 5-10% adaptable, but without him improving awareness of how his defensiveness and actions hurt me--and without a solid marital counseling plan--I just dont' have any other tools left in my box to try. I still love him, as I am very forgiving. We have young children and I am aching at the thought of hurting them should their parents no longer be together. How does one know the answer? I sure don't want to be 80 and have my condition be worse with someone who rarely apologizes, attacks me when he's too busy to talk to me, and has never once hugged me or massaged by back of his own volition except perhaps to try for sex. 

    I went to a support group meeting for ADHD, and I was surrounded by individuals with ADHD who were there to better understand themselves and be successful. My husband would never consider this for a second. Something must have happened long before we were married that made him so protective of himself that he's always saying there is nothing wrong with him, when I am only trying to get my needs met. He makes it about him and pushes me away.

  • Alarm bells ringing... I think my husband has ADHD? by: hanchar 8 years 9 months ago

    Apologies for the lengthy diatribe but this is 25 years worth... My husband and I have been together for a long time... 25 years (married for 11) but for almost all of that time I have felt frustrated and let down by him in so many ways. On the outside he's a nice guy... gentle, funny, easy going, never mean or argumentative with other people etc. but even when I first met him he was sort of in his own little world, obsessed with cars, a bit OCD - always cleaning certain things - wiping down kitchen cupboards or polishing the car to within an inch of its life - but oblivious to other things like clean sheets, clean bathroom, dishes in the sink, decent furniture etc etc. He was also always late and had a reputation for tardiness with his friends. He was the laughing stock and thought of as a bit of a hopeless case but we were young and he was cute and so I fell for him. He was also a talented graphic designer (loves details) and had a good job so I figured all would be well. Back then he was affectionate, even tempered (unless I pushed him out of his comfort zone or tried to get between him and his cars), kind and even generous in the beginning but he was also thoughtless, forgetful, disorganised, late, and would never call. He was dismissive of my feelings at times but very apologetic at others and constantly promised to try harder but rarely followed through. It was like he wanted to be the man I needed him to be but he didn’t know how. It caused a lot of fights when we were young, but we were young and I thought he just needed to “grow up” so I waited and nagged and sucked it up and surrounded ourselves with friends and activities and work, and life went on. Over the years, I have tried to accept his rituals, obsessions, lack of “class” or romance, forgetfulness, disconnection etc and sort of grew into becoming his pseudo mother but it has destroyed me. I slowly took on more and more responsibilities and have pretty much always been the driver in our life - prompting and organising everything from social outings to purchasing of property, furniture, equipment, holidays, marriage, children and most recently a new business, while he has been the passenger. His own mother was mentally ill and his father left when he was very young so I have always felt very sorry for him as he had a tough upbringing and I thought his self centredness and need to keep his world focussed was all due to this. Fast forward 25 years and I am BURNT OUT… We now have two children, a mortgage, two businesses ( I have my own and I help him with his as I always feel like it’s going to fall in a hole if I don’t) and I feel like I doing more than ever before. He is a good, fun dad to the kids and he works hard (although not very efficiently) but he’s completely disconnected from me – even though he doesn’t think so. Oh, he’s still affectionate (except that I don’t let him near me) and tries to crack jokes (which are not funny to me any more) and likes to get take away food and a movie at 9pm at night (after he comes home 3 hours late with no phone call), but he is mostly oblivious to my feelings and remains in his own little world where mummy here looks after everything. He is not a mean person and I honestly don’t think he does things maliciously but there have been so many incidences where he has let me down (not doing the one thing I asked him to do on our wedding day, spending the day after I gave birth looking for a new car instead of visiting me in hospital, watching the TV in hospital and eating my hospital dinner because I was so distraught about our new born’s health, poking fun at my anxiety about our daughter’s illness, secretly sending $2000 to buy a go-kart when we were struggling to stay afloat, buying a new motorbike without telling me, forgetting Mothers days, anniversaries, birthdays etc, rarely organising date night (despite repeated hints, promises, meltdowns), taking no interest in Christmas presents for the kids or his family, never organising family outings, taking no interest in kids’ education, sporting pursuits etc,, leaving renovation to me, leaving all bills, tax, cooking, social events, shopping, etc etc to me) that I feel like there is a black pit of anger and resentment that I just can’t get over it. We had another “talk” about it last week when he came home 3 hours late after telling me he'd be 20 minutes and I gave him an ultimatum (again) and then the benefit of the doubt (again) because he was upset, sorry, down trodden and confused but two days later he let me down again in a big way and that was the final straw. I suddenly realised that he will NEVER EVER change and I feel like leaving but I am trapped. So at the moment I am punishing him again by being mean and silent with him and that is just killing all of us. I thought he might have Asperger’s but perhaps it is ADHD. What should I do? Where do I begin?

  • Impact of Impulsivity by: ma2boys 8 years 9 months ago

    New to this forum. Married for 25 years and am now reaching the end of my tether. Over the years alcohol, over the counter meds, caffeine, nicotine, prostitutes, online porn, sexting sites, snorting adhd meds....you get the picture. Can't forget lost jobs, suicidal threats etc. This all from a well meaning, generous and warm hearted man. I am tired. Tired of the tears over the years. Tired of waiting for the sky to fall around our family. Tired of being the "responsible" adult in this relationship. Ironically I am now in counselling  myself to see if there is any part of me that wants to live the rest of what years I have left with this man.  I don't want to be the bad guy and it seems like a cop out to just blame his ADHD because that doesn't change the self destructive patterns he has well established and blamed on his boredom, lack of sex in our relationship, that he's an "all or nothing guy".  I am interested in hearing from those dealing with these types of issues, how you overcame or if you just cut your losses and left. We have two older sons (also diagnosed) so this is NOT just about me. 

  • Its like two different realities. by: pitypotpie 8 years 9 months ago

    My spouse seems to hae two different realities. The first is the one he lives in when everything is calm and he can genuinely see how other people are helping him, and he pitches in to help other people. He was recently diagnosed with very high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes, and he told me how happy and grateful he was for the whole family changing our diets (we dont need junk food anyway. Its good for all of us and ive already lost 9 lbs! Yay!) and for being supportive but not making a Huge Stinkin' Deal about his conditions. Hes pretty sensitive about them and while he does need certain accomodations, he doesnt want to be fussed over or pitied. I learned to cook some fantastic meals and have put a lot of effort into making this seem like great food rather than a boring old medical diet.  Friends, that felt awesome. A lot of things i do tend to go unnoticed so to be prasied without prompting felt great.

     

    The second reality... hoo boy, its Opposite Land. This reality showed up not even half an hour after the first example. He stated that blood sugar spikes and dips can cause mood swings, and he hoped that he could be less irritable. I said that he had been irritable lately and i hopes that he could get that under control too. He instantly lashed out, told me that he probably wouldnt be irritable if i wasnt so awful to him and told me that since i do "f--- all" for him, i deserved it. Then he huffed off and went to bed.

     

    I couldnt help but laugh. (Not out loud, not AT him but at the situation). So much for getting irritability and mood swings under control.

     

    I dont see how he couldn't have managed without me, while im also awful and have never done anything for him. I think he needs a serious time out to cool his jets.  

     

    How do the rest of you deal with this back and forth, hair triggered flip-flopping? One monute youre great, the next youre literally the devil himself, then youre great again.... and theres no way to tell what phase youre in. Gah. 

  • Mess is messing with my productivity by: Anonymous (not verified) 8 years 9 months ago

    How do you all cope with the Mess - the unfinished 'projects' laying around the entire house - the clutter, my dear god, the clutter!!!

    I've been reading through the forums a lot these past few days and I'm just trying to see how I can possibly move forward and make some sort of progress with the state of our house.

    My Spouse (F) and Myself (F) have been married for just over a year - having never lived together previously - and I'm just at my wits end with the mess.  I've always been a tidy-ish person, not to the extreme but I've always kept things to a minimum - no clutter and always able to actually SEE all the surfaces in the house lol.

    It's at the point now where I just do not know what to do - I'm literally overwhelmed with clutter & mess and don't even know where to begin with it - DW has made it clear that she doesn't want me to sort through anything and throw it away without her being there - but I just KNOW that if she is here when I do it then nothing will change - things will just be 'moved' to another area - only then for 'new mess' to creep in and replace the old!

    Our garage, outside work shed and office are all so messy that you can barely walk anywhere in them without tripping and breaking your neck - despite promises to get them organized it just never happens!

    I just want to go round the entire place with trash bags and throw everything that we don't need/use away but this caused a HUGE argument!

    How the hell do you all deal with this?  My teenage kids have become like slaves too - Wife insists they don't have enough 'responsibilities' around the home (they definitely do) and this has also caused heated debates in the past - I don't think that they should have to take responsibility for the things that DW can't be bothered to do!  For example - DW wanted chickens - we got chickens - novelty has now worn off and it has somehow now become the kids' 'responsibility' to feed/water/clean them....

    Same when DW cooks dinner - OMG there was a pan left in the kitchen sink for 5 days!!! Eventually I caved and had to do something about it - but if I cook dinner then I have to clean up my mess too - which is fine with me but I take issue with cleaning up after DW.  There has also been WAX melted onto our kitchen floor for 3 MONTHS - from a bout of candle making - promises to sort it out but never does - I just don't want to become an 'enabler' and run around picking up her mess - I don't think that's going to be helpful to anyone.

     

    TL:DR - Wife is messy, won't do anything at all about it and I'm having a silent breakdown because I can no longer cope with it - but refuse to be an enabler and clean/tidy up after up constantly.

     

    Sorry for the rant - think I just needed to get it out without there being an arguement lol.

  • I have ADD and so does my spouse, Help! by: ADDer married t... 8 years 9 months ago

    I've been married almost 10 years and when my husband and I were dating he made sure to inform me that he had ADD and the things he struggled with.  We researched things together and did a lot of reading.  My husband is very, very responsible, has been working the same job 26 years but struggles with OCD, dyslexia and has a lot of angry outbursts.  I was diagnosed with ADD only a few years ago (explains a lifetime of things....) I have suffered from mild depression ever since I can remember so I can easily fall into being lethargic.  I am very forgetful and mostly laid back (sometimes too much) and have a tendency to become prone to my depression unless I snap myself out of it.  My husband's OCD actually helps him with staying organized and on task but he gets very upset and angry when I don't do things the way he wants me to (thank goodness for good boundaries) or when I have difficulty understanding something that he is trying to explain.  He has a very hard time with empathy towards me (sometimes he just doesn't get it at all) but he has a huge tender heart for helping people in need or when someone is suffering.  He yells a lot and has angry out bursts, mostly minor things or when I forget something like not put something back or leave a door open, etc.....Any suggestions how to communicate/work with him better to resolve or tone down some of this stuff?  Thanks!

  • feeling lost by: cwtchescath 8 years 9 months ago

    My partner and I have been together for 41/2 years i love him dearly and know we are good and strong together. My partner suffers with depression and adhd. I'm a nurse with back ground in working with children with disabilities so have always felt that i do have more understanding of adhd. So far this has been helpful in developing a way of living each day for both of us.

    A few weeks ago i had some terrible news and have been struggling each day to get out of bed, my partner was great the first weekend but now it feels like he's not coping cause I'm not coping, i want to scream at him just to give me a cuddle and say it will be ok but he can't and i do understand that emtions are very difficult for him to deal with.

    Yesterday after seeing this web site i tried discussing how i was feeling, saying that I'd seen this website and that i thought it would help with our long term communication when things happen that effect me and how i don't feel supported and how we can work on it together. But he refused to acknowledge any of it just said it was a way of me turning things to be his fault and that he don't understand emotions and is not interested in learning or exploring ways we can improve

     I said in tears that I'm worried if anything happened like my parents passing away that I'd be given one weekend of sympathy then would have to get on with it as he can't cope and becomes depressed and we argue all the time as i may say something he don't like or use a tone which I'm completely unaware of.

    I'm so worried that in the long term without us learning to deal with difficult situation that i will grow to resent him and the adhd which i hope will never happen but how do i deal with this. I feel so alone.

  • Always being so negative by: DonkeyKong69 8 years 9 months ago

    Hi everyone, (Sorry for any grammatical errors, English is not my native language) 

     So my girlfriend has ADHD and we've been together for around 9 months now. Altough I am happy with her, there are a few things which really bother me and I'm not sure if it's her ADHD, or the way she is. 

     

    Something that happened today is a good example of a thing that's really annoying me:

    She started to became a veganist a few weeks ago and it's all going fine, except that she didn't took meat replacements so she has a lack of a lot of vital vitamins which caused her to feel sick at the moment. So after days she found out her sickness came from the lack of vitamins, but that was it. She didn't do anything about it so again a few days later I told her she really had to take vitamin boosts. Her reply to that was that taking those will make the human body lazy so that she doesn't want to, after that I only told her she should take them because it's almost the only way for her to feel better. 

    So today in the morning she said she feels so bad so I told her that it'll be just a few more days and then she'll feel fine again because then the vitamin boosts will start to work. Her reply was like "vitamin boosts?" so it seemed like she forgot about them, so I told her "Yes those pills your mom bought you, please take them they will help you and if you only take them for like 2 weeks, your body won't turn lazy" and then she randomly came with this stupid reply "seriously stop acting like a doctor and like I'm resisting I never resisted on taking those I already gave up on my opinion about them making the body lazy jesus" she's just so mad about.. nothing. I mean, sorry that I'm being worried? And the way she communicated it seemed like she didn't take them so I just wanted to be sure and tell her that they are important and that they can help, I don't think I was being pushy since it was the second time I told her about them. 

     

    She always replies like this on... about everything so we have atleast 2-3 fights every week, well atleast we used to because I'm starting to really just ignore her when she says something like that and later on we just talk about something else and act like it never happened. I don't want to start those pointless fights anymore, I'm done with it. She could have just said something like oh I haven't told you but I am taking them so don't worry. But instead she responds so aggressive and attacks me for really.. nothing. And I'm not a secure person so it's making me feel so unsecure, it's like I always do everything wrong. 

    Could this be something regarding her ADHD or is this something else? And if it's ADHD, how can I best deal with this? 

    Thanks for reading!

  • What Else Can I Do? by: SunshineSC 8 years 9 months ago

    Question? What else can I do to break the "mothering" trap?

    Right now, I don't pick up his clothes on the floor, I don't carry his dishes to the dishwasher, I am not putting his clothes in the hamper so they aren't getting washed by me because they aren't in the proper place and I am not mentioning it. I am not reminding him to do anything. Just flat out not mentioning it.

    What else should I be doing?

  • The dominant position in a parent-child dynamic by: I'm So Exhausted 8 years 9 months ago

    I was reading an article on Yahoo Health, with quotes from Melissa Orlov.    I have read this information before, heard this before, and in my experience have been trying to align it with my marriage.

    "One of the most common patterns in an ADHD relationship is that one partner does a disproportionate amount of work in the household, because it’s equally difficult for people with the disorder to initiate tasks and to complete them. One partner is always nagging; the other is always defensive.'

    Definitely saw this happen.  Living in the house, which is both our living space and the place of the construction business, and raising 2 children, I was usually striving to get some sort of semblance of a schedule or routine.  I could come up with plenty of plans and routines - as long as I also was the one to try to enforce them.  This included work related schedules, marriage schedules, school schedules, chore schedules,  . . . . . . .and it did not work. Exactly as she said:    

    “Household chores and childcare are typically unstructured, and creating a structure to do something in is typically not an ADHD strong point,” Orlov explains.

    What I am struggling to sort out in my brains is this :  In addition, Orlov often spots what she calls the “parent-child” dynamic, ***********where the non-ADHD partner is in a dominant role over the ADHD spouse. *************  “That’s an unhealthy dynamic for the relationship,” she says. Adding to this problem is the easily distracted nature of the ADHD spouse, which can be misinterpreted as a lack of romantic interest.

    I easily see how I filled the mother role, doing all the household chores that were left undone, take care of my spouse - buying clothes, washing clothes, buying shoes when his wore out, buying socks and underwear when his were full of holes, mending his clothes, buying coats, toiletries, etc., etc., paying the bills, taking care of the finances, etc. 

    This is the sentence I am chomping at the bit to understand:  ***********where the non-ADHD partner is in a dominant role over the ADHD spouse. *************  How was I the dominant one when I felt very passive, changed all my ideals and wants and dreams and did what he wanted when he wanted so he would not be angry?  And I always assumed guilt - that issues were my fault, and if I could just get it right, our marriage would thrive. 

    Wondering how that applies,

    Liz

     

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