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- How do you deal with non-urgency of ADHD'er to find work? by: Anonymous (not verified) 8 years 9 months ago From the time we were married in 1990-2001, my husband held a FT job with benefits. I was the housewife with a couple of cleaning jobs and in 1993 started working FT also. In 2001, we got a settlement and that is when it all started. He asked me what I wanted out of the money and I said to never be broke again. I wanted to put it in the bank and continue working. He pushed my idea aside and he invested in everything he had ever dreamed of doing as a business and worked for himself. Everything he decided to do failed and we lost it all. I never stopped working throughout the whole ordeal, 2 years, so as to keep us covered with medical benefits. Now his resume if speckled with small PT jobs here and there and he is almost 50. His main income now id Djing, which he is excellent at, but Winter is slower. For the past couple of years, he hoards some money from the busy season and works a few hours a week at whatever temp job he has that year and never applies for FT work. Last year, he got a 15 hr a week job with a DJ office doing their clerical and sales for the office but the owner of the company told him that in the Winter he may not be able to afford to have him there. I then told my husband to not be loyal to this PT job and start applying. He said "I know, I know" and then continues to work there, sleep in since he is an insomniac and refuses to take sleeping pills. All this while I work FT to keep our benefits. Thank God that I love my job and it helps me keep my sanity. So now it is Winter and as predicted, his boss told him he may have no work for him. He gives him a few hours here and there. For the past years I have gone out of my way to find work for him while he sleeps in, hangs out, contacts a few brides here and there to collect deposits for future wedding to pay for his half of the bills. I guess this makes him feel secure and then the busy season kicks in and he is the man again. So last month I sent him some jobs to apply to that were excellent and he hasn't applied. I asked him if he has enough money saved to give me his half of the bills and he said he thinks so. I also told him that he is getting older and it will be harder to find a FT job with his speckled resume. He brought out his past businesses and his experience but he just doesn't get that people want to see success and consistency when they hire you not to mention that my husband has no degree, he has a GED, charisma and experience due to the many jobs he has had. So he has taken the month of January "off" and he has a free schedule for the Winter. Even during busy season, he has worked 15 hrs a week and does whatever he wants with the rest of the time. Somehow, it feels like he works 40 hrs a week since he sits on his laptop til 3 AM playing or being distracted yet he brings home a check for 15 hrs. He never gets much done that he wants to do, doesn't go to the gym that he pays for, doesn't have dinner ready for me unless he gets me take out, his projects go undone. Its hard to see someone with all that time on their hands and I sit at work wishing I could be productive at home. I am trying to find a new way to deal with this since he does NOT listen, he does not look ahead to the future, he waits til things get bad to apply for jobs and then if they offer $12 an hour he gets disgusted because he has all this experience. Then he throws in how he can make two weeks pay in one Dj gig. It makes me feel insecure, even though right NOW he can give me his portion for the bills, when will that money run out? I have told him it takes a while to get a job from the first interview to they hire him and he just agrees but does nothing. He seems very content having no work, being able to do what he wants but I am worried, as I always am every year. It bothers me that he is ok with just getting by while I work FT. It would help us out so much if he had stability with income. I just don't understand this at all. Others have noticed as well especially when they see him during the week and ask what he is doing these days. Today he is hanging out with a friend helping him chop wood. Last year he was going to dip into out tax money for the bills instead of find a job. How can a man feel manly like this? Maybe he doesn't? Is he afraid of failure if he doesn't get hired after applying to 30 jobs? He always has issues at his jobs due to personality issues. He is the guy who wants justice to be served at his job and voices his opinion for everything. He lost a great temp job for putting someone in their place eloquently after they yelled at him inappropriately, not only telling her but ccing the CEO of the company, thinking they would think he was awesome. I told him not to send the email since they would fire him and he said he can support us with his DJ money if that happened. It did happen. But why thnik that way? Why is it always the principle of the matter and not the fact that the supplemental money would have helped us? Who has 40 hrs free a week and is content with just getting by with savings? It is more than frustrating. I feel caught up in his vortex of insanity and illogical thinking. Talking to him is pointless since he does what HE wants anyway and is caught up in a false sense of security since right now he can pay half the bills and feeling that he will ALWAYS be in high demand because he is a great DJ. I have always told him that DJing is a nice thing to be able to do but it should supplement income bit be your only source. So, do I just sit back and watch it happen again and again? Do I stop mentioning jobs to apply for? He is grown, he has a high IQ, he says he needs to find something, then WHY IS HE NOT DOING IT? I know that I am going to be working until I am 70. He calls me crazy for even thinking about leaving my job since its a great job. I feel like just letting him be and when things get bad he will cry again and self-loathe and say he has nothing to show for his life. In the meantime, I feel like throwing all my time into myself and go to the gym and take care of myself since anxiety and disappointment make me just go home, wonder if there is dinner for me, take a hot bath and go to bed. And the cycle goes on the next day. I want to respect him and its hard because he is not fulfilling his role. I don't want to emasculate him since he does that to himself. I just can't see wasting 40 hours a week and being so self-confident. Anyone have suggestions? And before you say meds and therapy, he won't go.
- Unapproachable by: c ur self 8 years 9 months ago
After several day's of quiet reflection and thought concerning our struggles. I've come to the conclusion my wife is unapproachable...It hasn't stopped me from trying for 7+ years...But the fruit of my attempts hasn't changed much of anything for the better anyway.... I know we learn to navigate some of the behaviors and some of our differences without to much damage to the relationship by trail and error eventually...But, a person who lives in a mind that has these faces most all the time: Competitive, Denial, Combative, Controlling, Forgetful, Self-Absorbed, who is a hoarder and who swings from extreme Independence to super co-dependence....Is unapproachable....
Now when you place her in a relationship with a Husband who is a Type A engaging talker, that loves intimacy and thinks there is nothing that can't be conquered with love and hard work...(Sadly my own denial) You have a recipe for disaster! The moral of this equation is: Believe what you see, learn to be quiet, and never put words in a person's mouth. If they can't say it and show it, it's probably not there....
Bad is Good if you accept it and find peace with it.....
C
- Encouragement for a spouse who is willing and able to try by: I'm So Exhausted 8 years 9 months ago
ADH9er,
I truly Ibelieve there was not anything my spouse - ADH9er - could do while I struggled and learned and healed myself - through counseling - for eating disorders and the unhealthy characteristics of being the adult child of an alcoholic. It was a difficult awful road of searching for answers. For quite a while, the scales were tipped to my side.What I am hoping to realize in supporting you in your efforts is, based on information that was gleaned from our original ADHD & Marriage sessions in 2012:
". . . . .he has his ADHD under control enough that he is reliable in the relationship - i.e.
that he is more than 90% on time
able to complete what he says
able to remember what he should be doing
able to communicate with you when he isn't going to do something before it becomes a crisis
has the anger in check, etc etc
until then he, should be focused on HIM, and not on you (Liz).
You were also encouraged with these words: ". . . . he should IGNORE your (Liz's) opinions and negative stance and go about the business of getting his ADHD under control. If he did that, you (Liz) would likely follow."
There is no blame here. There is no assigning of fault. The reality I feel is that - at this time - those scales are tipped to your side. I truly support your efforts.
With love,
Liz
- I need help and support. by: Letsgetlost86 8 years 9 months ago
Been with my wife for 5.5 years. Married almost 2.
Last few years have been pretty bad.
Shes just so detached. She feels like she's unhappy and made the wrong choice marrying me. That I can never be what she needs. I've really tried to step it up and try hard every single day to be better and try to listen and respond in a way she needs me to. and I've been really trying to change my behaviors and started up meds again. I'm seeing a therapist and psychologist and started Concerta in Nov. that was a rough 1st month on meds trying to find the right dose.
It really ramped up my anxiety and obsessive thoughts. Which super annoys her. She thinks I'm smothering her and obsessed with her every move. I try to text her throughout the day to start conversation and she's super short and doesn't wanna talk.
When we fight she's super good at expressing her anger. Not me. I shut down. I to "flood" and it's over for me. I can't speak without sounding like complete idiot. I can't find words once I've upset her. She says to say what I want. Not what I think -I think she wants to hear. She wants me to be authentic. But it's so hard because I do over think every interaction because I want to make our relationship better and I'm scared. And I'm walking on egg shells. She knows we have this parent / chil relationship and its toxic. I read the couples guide and loved it. Felt not alone for the first time ever. Also listened to the author speak for an hour on YouTube and it had me in tears at the end because I didn't feel so alone.
My my wife doesn't wanna listen to that or read the book with me. She says I'm the one that has to change and she wants nothing to do with it. Also said I'm putting on my eggs in this basket with this book and she doesn't think it's gonna make a difference.
Can an I do this one sided? Is it possible for me to repair this on my own?!
i feel like I found some hope and it was so quickly squashed.
She said it's not ADHD issues only its personality issues. And she doesn't get it.
Any advice ?
she says I speak in "I wants " which makes her feel like it's off in the distance and it doesn't change right now.
- help by: Letsgetlost86 8 years 9 months ago
i listened to the author for an hour on YouTube and also read the book. I felt to totally inspired and felt hope for the first time in a long time. It was quickly squashed when my non - ADHD spouse told me she didn't want to listen to YouTube interview I found or read the book with me. I tried really hard to ask for some time with her to do this because she has been so stone walled with me and when she said yes I was so happy. But of course when I got home from work I was so worked up over feeling like I was going to say the wrong thing or mess it up and of course it happened. I was too pushy about when we were going to start our night. My meds are basically out of my system by the time I get home from work. (Which btw I don't understand how being on meds is helping my marriage when they're out of my by the time I'm home)
i freeze when I upset her. I flood and I can't pull myself out of it very quickly. She says she doesn't need to be involved that she's been asking and begging for a change in behavior from me for almost 6 years and she hasn't seen it. She has little hope and she told me feels like she comprised when we met because of everything she had come out of before. How can I try to mend a relationship that is so broken? I just want her to listen to the interview online and. Read the book and us both start recognizing patterns and making changes together. I just don't know if I can do this one sided. How Can I show her that I am capable and that I am making changes and choices.
When we fight. I flood and freeze. She doesn't. She can express her anger and frustration perfectly every time. I'm so afraid of losing her. I can't do this.
- ADHD and passive aggressiveness by: dedelight4 8 years 10 months ago
I know this subject has been posted on, some time back, but I'd like to post a little more about it. An article came across my computer about passive-aggressive men, and even though my husband has severe ADHD, he is ALSO extremely passive aggressive. I read for at least 2 hours on everything I could find on passive-aggressiveness, and he does almost everything someone does when they have PA behavior. There's been so many things, I've been trying to figure out.........is he narcissistic.........is he bi-polar.......anything to explain his "absence" in our relationship. (which is now in divorce proceedings)
But, now after reading about passive-aggressive behavior, I have to say he is mostly a passive-aggressive man (with ADHD) who stays in denial about himself, won't look at any of his behavior, blames me and anyone/everything else for all his troubles and there's nothing I can do to change him, or even get him to try, I've given up, because it's done SO MUCH DAMAGE to my own self worth. You can't love someone who "punishes" you by withdrawing from the relationship and then blames YOU because "they" hurt and don't feel loved. This behavior KILLS relationships, and causes severe damage to all involved, and also is covert abuse. I do hope he learns someday about HIMSELF, and DARES ask himself the hard questions that need to be asked, Passive aggressive behavior is learned in childhood, and when I thought about my husband's childhood, it was the perfect "set up" for his learned behavior. He never got past it, and kept it going, so that he wouldn't get "attached" to anyone, or let them KNOW he "needed" them. But, at the same time, he's never wanted me to go anywhere, even though he's denied me attention and love. It's really sick behavior.
I've had to look hard at myself and question all my actions, decisions, etc. and it's been very hard. I don't feel very good about myself currently, and I have more questions to ask myself. I'm also reading about the type of woman who chooses the passive aggressive man, and why. It is very revealing and truthful in my situation. I need to re-learn how to do many things. Also be more assertive in " just saying NO, when it comes to poor behaviors toward me".
Has anyone else here had a therapist talk to them about passive aggressive behavior and ADHD? or is there co-morbid things like that in your relationships? just wondering.
- How Do You Handle your ADHD Partner's Mood Swings? by: soapathetic 8 years 10 months ago
I’m just dropping in because I’m curious about how everyone handles their ADHD partner’s mood swings / anger / tantrums. I understand each situation is different, but what I’m questioning for myself is when things escalate (and I mean, he starts taking his stress and anger out on me, arguing, snapping at everything), whether leaving the room and waiting for him to just “get over it” is unsupportive and avoiding dealing with things, even if remaining supportive and trying to talk him through and put up with it makes me feel like I’m stringing myself up to be a punching bag.
I can tell through the day when his moods start to drop and he’s sinking into a pit of what I will call depression, which manifests in mood swings and anger. Do I continue interacting with him like I normally would through the day? Do I try to cheer him up? Do I just not respond to his one-word texts, which he does courteously send even though they’re pretty unresponsive? I don't want to ignore him and brush him off until he's in a "more tolerable mood", but his lows are starting to drag me down too, which is a struggle enough as it is. I just can’t figure out the best way to handle these situations.
I feel like I end up walking on eggshells trying not to make things worse, I dread coming home because I don’t know what I’m walking into and if I do give him space, it usually makes him feel abandoned and worse. I feel so helpless about how to work around these moments and not put myself right in the line of fire, but remain supportive and loving.
Any insight you have is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
- Too broken to be intimate, add/nvld husband threatens to cheat by: firedancer16 8 years 10 months ago
For five years I've been married to an add (hyperfocus), and NVLD man. It's the same old story as many of you have posted. I do everything, decide everything, become everything. He is a loving person underneath all of the disorders. I know he loves me and our daughter. But when is love not enough? When do the disorders become the way we are living life, and not the love? Someone on this site referred to my job as his wife correctly as the "ceo" of our family. He's always been good about holding a job-even though he's been through many, he's always worked. He has hyperfocus, so that has aided him in being good at his job. His organization and odd social behavior limit him (although he doesn't see that). He lacks the ability to understand long term effects of his behaviors and life style, especially in regard to raising a child. He has given a good try to help around the house but jobs are left half done, and when I even make the slightest comment about "finishing" the task he launches into how he financially supports us and can't concentrate on doing anything else. Doing a load of laundry or dishes a couple times a week makes him feel like he's doing "everything" around the house, but he doesn't realize I have to fix half of the things he tries to clean. He has zero common sense which can be as debilitating as understanding the direction "take 3 rights" and you'll be at your destination. He thinks the only problem we have is that I don't want to have sex with him. He says that the "one thing" he wants me to do for him, I don't. He literally can't see how his disorders have taken every shred of passion out of me. And when we do have sex, I just feel like a vehicle for him...not like two people making love-just a way for him to get pleasure for himself. Every time we bicker or argue, he threatens to cheat on me. He says he thinks about it all the time. He never tries to understand WHY I feel no passion. He says he tries to get me "in the mood", which apparently (he told the therapist) involves rubbing my arm or back. Like for the 3 seconds that happens that is supposed to me my clue. There is never a romantic gesture, or if he does the dishes apparently that is supposed to clue me in that he is helping and that equals getting laid.
We have been through 3 therapists, plus I am seeing my own therapist. My personal therapist tries to suggest ways to talk, accept, and help ourselves but they never stick. Each one we've saw together has recommended I "accept" his disorders and put a smile on my face. I feel like I'm painted as the "evil non understanding angry wife". He tells them if nothing is done perfectly the way I want it, I complain and criticize him. I'm told that I can't make anyone perfect. I've never been about making him perfect...I just want a partner, a team member, someone I can lean on if I need something. If I'm sick-too bad- get up and take care of your child, because he keeps her a live, but that's about it. When I had my daughter by c-section, I got tormented. When I wanted to take my daughter to Disney, he decided he didn't want to go because he doesn't like lines. They do not understand my daily frustration just to live in a normal life, and my anger sometimes. I fear my daughter understanding that Dad is a disappointment. Something as simple playing with her becomes another annoyance to him, and takes his attention away from his phone or ipad. God forbid. I am okay, and okay, and okay, and I keep my cool through all the ridiculous situations ( like he obsessively locks our bedroom door, and I can't get in when he forgets it's locked and closes it and I can't get dressed for work and then become late), but after the 3,401 time that that same ridiculous situation happens-I LOSE MY SH*T, and get incredibly angry. I know when I do this it's not okay-it's not right, but I am literally at my wits end at that point. I think I scare him when I finally flip out. I NEVER do this in front of my child.
I'm literally exhausted, as are many of you (or all of you) are. Mentally and emotionally I don't have a shred of non-stressed thoughts. Physically I can't get myself motivated to get out of my stress eating disorder or go to the gym because I'M EXHAUSTED. I'm resentful on top of it. It's manifested itself into intense anxiety sometimes. I worry crazily about my daughter and what would happen if I died or couldn't take care of her anymore. As it is, he's never been successfully able to install a car seat, or even strap her in the correct way. The couples therapist says that "that is a matter of preference on my part and not safety." In another words, it's okay and not dangerous. I'm just being picky. I've been dealing with my husbands inability to process cause and effect for too many years. Like many have commented, I feel like I'm alone and running the show. I have a four year old daughter that I've basically single handedly raised myself. The first night she was home and crying during the night he asked, "Is this going to happen every night?" I was told to sleep in the living room because he couldn't be tired at work. He got mad and frustrated when he had to not prepare but only heat up dinner during that time, when I was recuperating from a c-section. He called me a slave driver when I "made" him go shopping for groceries because I wasn't allowed to drive. He told me to go to hell when I asked him to vacuum because the physician told me not too for the first 2 weeks. Obviously, I hold a lot of resentment because of that time of our lives. The thing that kills me is I had to make the incredibly difficult decision to not have any more children-which kills me that I can't give my child a sibling-because I KNOW it will be me 110% taking care of another child, working full time, cleaning, cooking, and all the ETC that life has for us. Being as stressed as I am, and trying desperately to hang onto a semblance of my families future, I just don't think another child would make things better. In fact, I fear the result of what we would become. I fear that I'd finally decide that we couldn't be married any longer, and be moved out of our home, with a low paying full time teaching job, trying to support children by myself. I come from a divorced family, and I know how it feels to have your home broken. I'm desperately trying to make sure that doesn't happen-but how much longer can I last in this situation.
Thank you for reading. I'm glad there are people out there that understand.
- Manipulation and Control by: c ur self 8 years 10 months ago
If you are a people pleaser and have a spirit to serve others unless you are also very wise, you may be an easy target for a person who seeks Co-dependency and is skilled at manipulation and Control...I'm not saying all who live in this mind do it intentionally or are even totally aware of their intrusive life style...But, the reality and effect on others is the same non the less...
This was the case in my marriage; and I wasn't wise enough to understand what was happening until I was so taken advantage of that my emotional health was not good... Learning to recognize the faces of manipulation by someone seeking to control you can be super hard for a servant spirited (people pleaser) person. If you have a spouse who lives w/ out much self control you may already understand this post and the effects it can have on you....It's a form of abuse for sure, and until a person learns to recognize it and walk away from it only bad things happen....I'm not bitter or angry any more, but, that is only because God took it from me...I am human and the road to anger and bitterness is still an option. But I was so emotionally damaged by anger and bitterness I would live alone before I turned down that road again...No contest...
Side note: If you are suffering from bitterness because you are living with a co-dependent spouse I will share my experience with you....I struggled and prayed for quiet a while to be free of this root of bitterness that had intertwined it-self into my heart...but to no avail....And one night laying in the emergency room w/ my heart jumping around over come with anxiety. I realized or either God reveled to me....I didn't really want deliverance from it..."It was my protection"....It wasn't long after that, God freed me from this terrible thing....Giving one's life is freedom.... I still love to serve, and I do most all the chores, but, I don't do it w/ a chip anymore and I try to not keep count or save stamps :)...
The road I'm on now is a much healthier road....Step 1) accept my spouse (this doesn't mean agreement) 2) manage my emotions in every circumstance. 3) Never be to Prideful to apologize and ask for forgiveness when I do something wrong, no matter what her role was, and no matter if she apologizes or not. (People in denial usually don't ) 3) Recognize the faces of manipulation, and always walk away silently no matter what is being said or done....Words can only lead to conflict for both parties and if I don't engage it at all, it's just an internal conflict for her to work through.... Below is the web address to a nice article I found that gives some in-site into a person who lives in this kind of mind, for those who would like to read it.....
C
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intimacy-and-desire/201105/people-w...
- What to do when your partner won't initiate conversation? by: Leelee123 8 years 10 months ago