My ADD husband and I have had a very rock relationship for a few years now. In the past, I've been the one to arrange for us to see therapists to try and work on our marriage. A few months ago I told him that it was now his turn to set up an appointment for us to get some counseling -- that I wasn't going to be responsible for it again. He promised me that he would, but nothing has happened. I've brought it up several times, but he has always responded that he doesn't have any time to make calls or that he is too busy with work right now. I've reiterated that if he wants our relationship to get on track that he will need to take this step. A few days ago I broke down (again) because he told me he shouldn't have to be the one to arrange the counseling -- that I didn't understand how hard it is to be him. He really snapped at me and became angry that I would even ask him about something that he had promised me to do. Not sure where to go from here. Of course I could make the call and set up the appointment myself. But what is the point of me dragging him to another round of therapy if he isn't invested enough to make a phone call? I know it's hard for him. Things are hard. But how can I make him take a significant step toward getting us on track?
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- Can't he just make the phone call? by: streetfighter 11 years 4 months ago
- New thoughts, new courage by: jennalemon 11 years 4 months ago
Only your thoughts can endanger your happiness. Telling yourself a miserable mental story about your circumstances creates suffering. Telling yourself a more positive and grateful story, studies show, increases happiness.
I am the somewhat obsessive spouse of ADD husband. I am trying very hard to grow out of the venting, complaining, unhappy person I have become. Here is what I am trying to learn and how I am trying to change my thoughts:
My positive, grateful story: I have been blessed with capabilities and talents and health. I don't know if I would have ever dared to have a family if not for dh. Our marriage and family happened to us as a surprise. What blessing to have had children! I would not have known the happiness and belonging (and drama) that I get to experience daily with my children and grandchildren. What a beautiful home I have lived in for so long! Our family is healthy and intelligent and okay. I have been able to financially and emotionally keep things together. I have been incredibly strong and tenacious all these years. Even though no one else knows or appreciates all I have done and given, I know and God knows. I can be proud of what I have done and assume that I can be strong in the future. I made decisions based on what I believed at the time to be good for family and love. My emotions and psych are faltering while I grieve some losses, but people and resources are showing up. I am accepting that there is loss and challenges in life. That's life. And there is a tearing apart, a pruning, for new growth if a person dares to live and risk and feel. I know that I have no power in myself to change dh. I am putting my faith in God, letting go of my need to be in control and starting a quest to find where my heart can be free to explore and experience the sunshine of life.
- Sister Domestic Life in Mess - What to do by: anandrp 11 years 4 months ago
Hi Everybody,
My married Sister have been diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia , and hence she is now staying with us for having good family therapy along with medication. During her stay I have noticed that my nephew who is 4.5 yrs old is clearly showing symptoms of ADHD and also my brother-in-law showing clear symptoms of Adult ADHD, I was not aware of this disorder earlier and its only recently came to know about the ADHD. It seems that my sister life had become hell dealing with 2 ADHD person 24 hrs a day in a nuclear family for past couple 4-8 yrs which may be one of the important factor of her's Schizophrenia from the past 2 yrs. Now she does shows improvement but gets stressed sometimes when she communicates with her husband or have to take care of his son.
After getting medical treatment for my bro-in-law(clinical diagnosis is still pending) I am in dilemma w.r.t what to do , for the following reasons.
1. As Both Schizophrenia and ADHD requires Behavior therapy along with Medications, Can I expect my sister and bro-in-law to behave in conjunction with therapy towards each other given the above disorder they have.
2. Would Medications would be good for my 4.5 yrs old nephew given the fact that he is already underweight and is just 15 kgs.
3. Can I expect proper behavior from my bro-in-law and sis towards my nephew if they again moved in nuclear family (As of now i am highly disappoint the way they behave with him.. like surrendering to his demands most of the time).
Please advice,
Thanks
By the time my nephew and brother in law have been diagnosed with ADHD
- Defend, Deflect, Deny | It Happens Every Time (and I'm sick of it) by: frustrated_male 11 years 4 months ago
Please help!
I am the non-ADHD male, and my ADHD girlfriend of two plus years has me at wits end.
Our biggest struggles occur regarding her non-socially acceptable behavior. She has interrupted me so many times it would make your head spin, including one time she actually covered my mouth in front of her friends to do so. She also is "bossy", constantly giving advice when none has been asked for. This is especially bad in regard to me parenting my 13 year old son. (We are in our late 40s, and she has tow children in their early 20s.) She also is very critical and will blurt out negative comments regarding almost every subject.
She has been diagnosed ADHD and recently has been put on Concerta. She is scheduled to start some sort of CBT next week. This will be her 2nd attempt at CBT, as the first therapist who claimed to be an expert was a disaster.
Here is the main problem. We are in a horrific cycle and I am now of the belief that she is simply rude and selfish, and its bringing me to anger and breaking my heart at the same time.
Here is why. We are in a pattern where the following happens:
1. She will exhibit the bad social behavior. As an example last night in public she was extermely rude to me and some friends of ours. I was having a conversation with them and she came over, demanding that I drop the conversation to dance with her. I objected an let her know she was interrupting and the request could wait. She pulled me onto the dance floor and told me she didn't give a f*ck about the person I was talking to. She then said why would I value that conversation more than I valued her. Needless to say, our night went downhill from there.
2. I let her know that she had (once again) acted on her ADHD impulses and had rudely interrupted. She then went into what I now call her classic DEFLECT, DEFEND and DENY mode. She denied she had been rude and that it was no big deal. She DEFENDED her actions by saying that we were out and that I should value her more than the other couple I ws speaking with. She then DEFLECTED the attention to my reaction, which candidly was my anger. I've seen enough of this movie. It happens over and over and over and my patience is gone.
3. We had a huge blowup when we got home and it ended with us in different beds. This morning she awoke with remorse, and apologized profusely. At this point the apologies ring hollow. If I had a dollar for every post-fight apology she has given to me, I'd be rich.
4. I let her know, once again, that though I can deal with the ADHD tendency to not control the initial impulse to interrupt, blurt out, etc., I was sick and tired of the fact that she will DEFEND, DEFLECT and DENY after the impulsive action has been pointed out. Unlike the impulsive action, at this point she has had time and feedback that she has stepped over a line. Yet, she continues to dig in with her DEFEND, DEFLECT and DENY strategy. To me, this shows me she has no empathy whatsoever for what she has done. She only apologizes, in my eyes, at the end of an exhaustive argument to get out of "trouble". It may take only a few minutes, or sometimes a week or two, but the pattern above repeats, like a horror movie.
She swears she "loves" me and my son. I no longer believe her words and have told her so. I have let her know that I think she loves the "idea" of me, the benefits of our relationship (lifestyle, attention, etc.) but she cannot understand or connect with the damage she does to me and my son. Even if she does connect the dots, that knowledge is not enough to stop her from curbing her behavior and repeating her behavior over and over.
On my end, I feel like I fell in love with the idea of her. Like many non-ADHD people, I received the hyper-focus of her attention early on. She moved in after 5 months and we have lived together for 2+ years. I thought I was dating a very unselfish person, but my reality is that her actions in so many occasions are selfish and rude that I cannot believe her anymore. To be fair, she does some wonderful things as well, but these actions do not make up for the hurt and damage she inflicts on a daily basis.
In a quiet moment today, I let her know that if she did not live with me and we were just dating, I would no longer be asking her out on dates. I would never let someone embarass and treat me as rudely as she has in public and still ask that person out.
When we started dating, we both said we wanted a person who would be a servant to the other. Maybe this was naive, who knows, but it is what we both said we wanted.
I have let her know her actions are like that of a waiter who does a horrible job. Tell her the steak is burned and she will DENY she had anything to do with it, DEFEND that you do not know what a burned steak is and DEFLECT and say you ordered it that way. She completely refuses to validate that the customer thinks the steak is burned and will fight her poisiton to the bitter end.
Her adult son has ADHD and he cannot keep a job, keep friends, steals what he thinks he deserves, etc. She has "had it" with his behavior and is giving him tough love. Essentially, she is no longer speaking to him until he gets his act together. She can see this rudeness in him, and in a weird way can see it in herself, but its simply not enough to make her stop.
I feel like I am losing it. I so want to believe she will change, but I am losing faith that she has it in her to stop the DEFEND, DEFLECT and DENY cycle. She told me tonight she was very sorry, she loves me and she cannot believe the damage she has caused. I am numb to those words...I have heard them too many times with no changes.
Someone please give me some practical advice. I am on the verge of ending this relationship. It has become a very toxic and sick cycle. I feel stuck as she lives with me and though we are not married, it will still be like a divorce.
Help!
- Do I have ADHD by: Tinazee 11 years 4 months ago
I recently got married to the most wonderful man who treats me like gold. Geeez I am not sure where to start but I do have to fix my problem uncontrollable temper or my marriage will be over quickly. First off my husband lives In the USA and I'm in Canada , I am supposed to be moving there in a month ,that is if he ever forgives me :( I will tell you about this tantrum or whatever it's called, I turn into a monster, someone I don't like in the least I say hurtful things that I don't mean. Like this time he drove 6 hours to meet me. I drove 1 1/2 only to stay 1 night and me to take off at midnight the second and last nite we had together in a rage calling him names , I even left the new cell phone he got me and my beautiful engagement and wedding ring behind, telling him I didn't want him anymore and I hated him and on and on. I HATE MYSELF, this is a good good man how can I treat him so badly. I don't know where to go what to do,where to start. But I do have to get this under control.
The reason for me being upset , truthfully. I don't even remember. Nothing that is important ,nothing he did to either disrespect me or put me down in anyway. Geeez it just wasn't a great day and it should of been, after all I spent the morning at the hair salon getting the works done. He was moody all day because he didn't sleep the nite before because I snore ,he tells me! I can't confirm that I do! But I'm willing to try anything to control it so the poor man can sleep. But moody doesn't deserve the anger ,or the monster that comes out in me.
Please anything will help, any tiny bit of info ,whatever. I have to save my marriage.
- ADHD husband "can't " help.. at all. Ever. by: smilesalot 11 years 4 months ago
I am married for over 30 years. About 8 years ago.. he found he has a good bit of ADHD .. now gets meds and sees a doc as a coach.
BUT.. his actions do not show that he is trying to help the marriage.
He is likely going bankrupt...he won't tell me enough about our money for me to know what is real and what he is just saying to scare me .
An example of money problems.( He is self employed and has always done well for us) Recently he got a $10,000 refund from a job. He paid some bills but did not give me any $$ for the house. Which is falling apart slowly. Instead he gave our daughter and son in law ( who are broke but not starving and not spending money they don't have) $750 . I was so livid and then so hurt. The house could have used so much work.. new garage door, new gutters,., tree work, stuff I can't do alone... he has no time or interest in doing yard work or work on the house.
Since he is ADHD, he looses interest and moves on.... and wont go back to finish anything he starts.
He walks around saying to business people who are in the energy conservation business... how "Green" he is.. recycles etc. Well.. the truth is he never turns off a light and drives the worst old cars.. that is a different story.
I asked him how he could do that..say how green he is and he said.. well I just get distracted.. you should remind me. Remind me to brush my teeth and wash my face when I go to bed and to turn off the lights when they should be off.I am OUTRAGED that he wants me to be the grown up and walk around reminding him about this stuff! He does NOT take care of me.. I get no help, no support in what I do ( sadly I am not employed or I would move right out but at 66 there is very little work for me in the world.)
He never makes plans for going out together.. he watches NCIS reruns and drinks every single night. He is in bed by 9 pm every night.
He works at home.. in the living room .. since he has hoarded so much junk that the basement is filled with his stuff.He wants three meals a day and wants to know where I go when I go out to visit friends or volunteer at school. I am so unhappy and so angry.
I don't see any help for us.
Any tips would be a big help... thank you!
smilesalot
- All done. How to explain? by: anabel 11 years 4 months ago
I have just found this site and other information on marriage and adult ADHD and I can't believe how much rings true to my own experience over the last 9 years. I've been married for almost 8 years, and have two fantastic daughters, ages 2 and 4. After (what seems like a fairly typical!) whirlwind romance and honeymoon phase of the first couple years of marriage I've been struggling since the birth of our first daughter with how much I feel like my husband has put the bulk of his time and energy (and money and space) into all kids of external projects, and not nearly enough into our family. It has been frustrating, disheartening and disappointing to feel like I need to drag him away from other things to give me and the kids the time and attention we want and deserve. After discovering that for the last 3 years he has been seeking women on dating, affair and hook-up sights (even though he swears nothing in person has ever happened and he's never cheated, he just called it "flirting") I am all done, we are living separately and moving forward with divorce. I know it's the right decision emotionally and financially for me and I already feel relief even though I only made the decision 6 weeks ago.
My hope is that my husband can be a good co-parent and find his happiness eventually, but I know it couldn't be with me. My own personality has changed with parenthood, and I think has been much more severe as a reaction to my struggles with him: I want to be able to live planfully, focusing on my kids, in a house and yard that is clean and not overloaded with stuff, spending responsibly, and not being the only one who manages all the "stuff" that has to get done and just comes with adulthood.
My challenge is my husband- he is so bewildered and blindsided and confused. I care about him and want him to be able to get through this and find happiness on the other side, and I NEED him to be able to work with me on helping our kids make this transition, and to be a co-parent, even if it's not in the way we both expected but he just cannot understand why in the world I would do this. He wants to know if someone is telling me what to do and say. He wants to know if the reason I don't love him anymore and haven't been attracted to him (both not true, I just gave up trying to make him show like HE was interested) is because I don't like men in general.
He does not understand the huge inequity in time - both the fun bonding times and the hard work of parenting times!- spent with the kids, he does not understand that I detached myself emotionally to protect myself, he doesn't see that I didn't get any of the partnership in being a family that I wanted/needed and didn't feel like a partner as he let time and money spent on other things always go way beyond what we agreed upon. And yes! I've tried over the years to explain many times how I felt.
So . . I would love advice on HOW I can explain this to him in a way that he may understand, while minimizing hurt. I feel I've BEEN trying to explain all those frustrations, and it just doesn't sink in (see "maybe she's a lesbian theory). ADHD is not on his radar, my therapist actually brought up the possibility. I don't think he'd react well to me suggesting it, but can I help him understand that he had a hand in what went wrong and maybe be able to understand so he can start to move on?
Thanks so much, I've found the people on this forum to be very kind and helpful and I now know I'm not alone!!!
- ADD spouse taking meds but my feelings are still indifferent by: Jenb13 11 years 4 months ago
Hi, my story is probably similar to many others here: undiagnosed ADD that progresses to diagnosed but untreated ADD that progresses to a burnt out non-ADD spouse. A little over a year ago I completely lost my mind--years of financial strain b/c my husband couldn't maintain adequate self-employment and refusal to get a formal job, his "checked out" lack of presence as a husband and father (unless he wanted sex!), staying up late watching movies, refusal to get help for himself or us etc. etc. couple with my own screwed up belief that a good wife "submits" to her husband, isn't disrespectful (a good idea btw but never seemed to help resolve our issues) led me to class A breakdown. I never exploded-I just...was done. I don't know how else to describe it. I didn't hate him or want to punish him, I just didn't want to have to be married anymore. And boy did he change! Started getting treatment, making lists, trying to be helpful. It's been a year now and I'm still feeling the same way...I don't want him to touch me, I really wish I didn't have to be married. Has anyone else experienced this and if so what did you do ? Stick it out and your feelings eventually changed? Let the marriage go and wish him the best? I'm genuinely curious. So many people here seem to either still be frustrated and angry or the spouses have gotten treatment and are moving in a positive direction. Are there any who have spouses who have changed and there is still indifference.
We've been married 17 years btw. Thanks!!
- Newbie by: gefilte927 11 years 4 months ago
Hi I'm new to this forum. Thanks for allowing me to contribute my story. My six year marriage has been on the rocks for awhile now. My wife has ADHD and I'm the non-ADHD spouse and it's been pretty awful. I believe that dating an ADHD person is really great but being married to an ADHD person is awful. And I'll explain why. When dating an ADHD person, they hyperfocus on the new relationship 100% and it feels really great! However, once the hyperfocus shifts to something else like a new career, then the ADHD person starts ignoring, abandoning, neglecting and abusing their partner. The non-ADHD person is suddenly a very low priority to the ADHD person. I'm married yet feel very alone. Everything is higher priority than me. I've gone to the beach by myself, I've gone to the movies by myself and I've gone to restaurants by myself. I'm actually considering going on a cruise by myself. I don't need this in my life. I'm a great person, I have a lot going for me. I don't deserve to be ignored and neglected. She doesn't even pay attention to the dog or the plants in the house. They thrive under my care but are neglected under her care. She was married once before and I'm pretty sure that ADHD was the reason for the divorce. The previous husband cheated on her, probably because he was neglected and found another woman that would give him attention. I believe that the ADHD spouse brings out the worst in both spouses. I am so frustrated, my concerns fall on deaf ears all the time. After repeating my frustrations to her over and over again, I eventually get upset and lose my composure and we start arguing. And then she blames me for picking the fight when I just want peace and a happy marriage. I am very close to filing for divorce. Overall, I think she's a good person but a bad wife. I wouldn't recommend that anyone marry an ADHD person. Thanks for listening.
- Any good diagnostician for adhd in florida?? by: Babygurl132001 11 years 4 months ago
My bf has adhd and im very interested in gettig him diagnosed. If anyone know a good psychiatrist pls advise me. Thank you so much!!!