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  • I didn't get to say goodbye. by: Anonymous (not verified) 11 years 4 months ago

    Short version of my story goes like this: 

     

    My husband had ADHD, but he coped with it extremely well and made it work for him. He got a different job, and during a long night working on a project (spreadsheet stuff - not ADHD friendly) a friend, who also had ADHD, offered him adderall to "make it work." It worked incredibly well, but instead of seeking professional help, he started self medicating. Fast forward almost a year. My kids and I moved out when his adderall habit reached 200 mg daily and he lost control of his anger.

    I've tried to get him help in every way I could contrive. Family, friends, forcing him, bribing him, begging him, leaving. My kids and I moved 1000 miles to get away from him and he quit his job and followed us. Now I have a restraining order because he tried to hit me in church, stalked me, harassed my family and friends...

    I fell in love with him because of the passion and creativity that ADHD gave him, and I am leaving now because of the ADHD fueled drug abuse. The part that is killing me is that between the man I married and the man who takes pills, he never told me. I never got a chance to say goodbye. And now I won't get that chance because he is so far gone down the path that drug abuse takes.

  • I just need to know there is hope..... by: kelly_0582 11 years 4 months ago

    I will try not to ramble and for this to have some sort of flow, but I can not promise anything.  Im 31 years old and recently (within) 2 weeks dx with ADHD-combined type.  At first I thought it would be a relief to finally know "what was wrong with me", but it has only added to my stress.  As long as I can remember, I have been "that girl" that excessively talks, climbs everything, constantly on the go, has 30,000 lists that cover every possibility in life, I interrupt , am socially awkward, and have always heard "oh that just her, give her time, you'll love her."  As a child I was suspended from school in 4th grade, for talking and getting out of my seat.  But back then my doctor told my mother, oh her grades are good, I am not testing her. 

    Anyway, quick run down, I have always felt like something is wrong with me because I can not control my racing mind, I can not control my own mouth and not interrupt, I have a short fuse and get upset over the stupidest things, which in turn makes me feel like a complete failure. I have suffered with "depression" since the age of 10, have been to several counselors, several different medications, have had an issue with cutting (not like the extreme that you will see, but when I can't not get my mind under control... Maybe a total of 8 scars), tried killing myself at 14, was in a psychiatric facility, was even doing counseling until last year (which never seemed to help my underlying issues). The doctor a few weeks ago spoke with me for over 2 hours, explained that I have always had the ADHD, and while I learned to compensate the best I could at the time, that current life situation (I work fulltime, in grad school, a relationship that is falling apart, and recently miscarried) has simply over stimulated me to the point I can not compensate any more.  My boyfriend of 3 years says "so you have an excuse and I just have to deal with it."  I don't want an excuse, I just want someone to understand me.  I am trying to keep it all together, and I just can't.  The dr also told me that he really is irritated that people missed all the signs and clues pointing them to the underlying cause.  I guess he is right, I mean if you try and try and try and try to not be "how you are" and continue to "fail", most people would get depressed. 

    My doctor said that it is actually not as common for a female to have the hyperactivity and impulsivity, but I meet every requirement for diagnosis.  Even as an adult I can't stay seated, I fidget all the time, I interrupt, can't wait my turn, easily frustrated, and never look like I pay attention.  Oh yes, and I repeat myself.....ALOT.... My boyfriend takes it as grinding or nagging, but Im simply trying to explain myself to him, how I see something, why I think the way I do..... Everyone else get that, even the doctor said it is extremely common part of the hyperactivity.  Oh yes and when my mind races, I CANNOT make it stop.  So I will ramble, or text, or write pages in my spiral..... I get so tired of hearing "just take a breath, that will relax your brain."  The same when I can not focus for homework, which I should be doing right now.... Im told "oh just do something else for 15 minutes then go back."  My mind controls me, I'm the girl that can't sleep at night because my brain won't shut up, Im the girl who will go to walmart at 0200 to buy paint, so I can paint my kitchen.  

    At this point I just don't know how this is going to improve.  I don't know how anyone will ever love me like this.  I am going to have a graduate degree and be successful professional, but my personal life it up in chaos.  Everyone has always left me.  Which is why I am scared to show anyone who I truly am.  There is a song by MercyMe that states "if they see your heart, theyd see too much."  That is exactly how I feel.  

    Sorry for the ramble, Im sure there is so much I let out..... I just don't know how to get my temper, racing thoughts, and focus under control.... I love my boyfriend and don't want to start over.... I just don't know what to do.... He even said that had I had this diagnosis last may (went to my pcp again, was started on depression meds with no relief) that it would be different because he would have known then what the issue was, he would have "better understood" that you did not mean to have a short fuse or "snap at me."  Which by the way, I realize exactly what I have done 5 seconds later and profusely apologize.  I was hoping to be able to get in on the Counseling on this page, but noticed it is full.  Trying to find someone around here that understands how real this is and how it effects people.  

    Thanks for reading my rambling, 

    Kelly

  • Our Petty Ugly Parts need Honor and Love by: Mr New Hope 11 years 4 months ago

    Pretty Ugly Cry

    Everyone looks ugly when they cry.
    With the pureness of our hearts we testify.
    Laid bare with love we wish to fly.
    Our daily death help us to defy.

    Our moulting melting shell
    From which our souls rebel
    Bursts open to be born.
    A sacred self forlorn.

    O have reverence for our tears
    For to you we have exposed our fears.
    See the beauty of our cry
    For some painful part must die.

    Hold us when we are weak.
    Share the inner self we seek.
    As inflicted poisons we release
    Embrace us in our path for peace.

    And when our blessed tears our gone.
    Look upon us with lights new dawn.
    Honor please that pretty ugly part
    We showed you deep within our heart
     

     

  • Vacation planning troubles by: ElizabethM 11 years 4 months ago

    Hi All,

     

    So I am looking for some helpful advice. My fiance and I have a really hard time planning recreational travel together. First let me say we both travel for work a bit -- I am a journalist and he is a photographer -- and while planning work trips is stressful we manage to do it. But recreational trips are another matter entirely and we have long history of botched recreational vacations where my expectations are disastrously far from what actually happens. For instance the time we decided to drive across the country but whenever I was driving he sat in the passenger seat and mostly ignored me because he had to finish his masters thesis which was a month past due. Or last spring when he canceled our scheduled climbing trip (the night before!) because he suddenly realized he had too much school work. Whenever we make a plan he issues this caveat now: well if I suddenly have work then I have the right to cancel our plan. This is hard for me because I set aside time to do stuff together and I get excited about it. So when our plans suddenly dissolve, as they have done in the past, I am disappointed. I know this isn't about me how much he loves me, but it does feel disappointing none-the-less.

    We are great at so many things! And I certainly get to appreciate many of the pluses of ADHD -- his ever curious mind and complete enthusiasm for things that interest him. He is brilliant and kind. Except when he feels I have turned against him. And because of my past disappointments with vacation stuff whenever I bring it up he feels like I have turned against him.

    So most recently we are working out a plan to get away this summer, and simply talking about it has made us both incredibly anxious this entire week. Essentially about a month ago, we zeroed in on 5 days in August where we might go up to the White Mountains. I am a nature lover and we live in New York, so getting out of the city is vital to me. I constantly ask myself is getting out of the city and into nature a need of mine? And the answer is yes it is a really vital to my peace of mind and feeling of centeredness. I bike, I run, I hike, I climb, etc. And I get out of the city often on my own or with girlfriends. And I want to share that with my partner occasionally. My partner is much more of a computer guy but he does love climbing. That is where we overlap. So we were planning on going to the White Mountains to climb. When I brought it up again as we neared the dates we had set aside suddenly he refused to go. He said that I hadn't been practicing climbing at the gym enough. When in fact I got the certification he asked for and have been practicing, although not often with him because our schedules don't always allow it. Still I told him I understood his fear, and said that we didn't have to climb. We could hike. Explore some caves, which he likes to do, visit a distillery. To which the response was, well its too long. Okay I said, three days and lets go someplace closer. No, he said, two max. And at this point we are both so angry and defensive its just really hard to talk to one another. It makes me anxious and breaks my heart. He says he doesn't like vacations. I say well we don't have to sit around doing nothing! Lets make it an adventure trip! I know he has disappointed me in the past around this issue and he probably is hugely fearful of disappointing me again. How can I get what I need while making him feel safe? Can someone offer me advice? How do you talk to your ADHD spouse about issues like this? I tell him I would be less angry if when he sets aside time for us, he honors that no matter what work comes up. And he tells me I am being unreasonable. How can we escape this vicious cycle? Do I have to give up my desire of taking short vacations with him?

     

     

  • How to communicate without upsetting each other? by: crossingfingers... 11 years 4 months ago

    My boyfriend has been my best friend for 7 years, and we have been dating for over 2 years. We have a lot in common and care about each other deeply. When it comes to communication, not only are we stuck, it devolves into feelings being continually hurt on both sides. We can't seem to break through, and his reactions keep us stuck in the cycle.

    He has not been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD, and is still partially in denial that he may have it. I am not a doctor, and I know I am not qualified to diagnose anyone, but everything I have read on this site and others seems to reflect our experience. I have read that it is highly heritable, and his father and brother both have it. My boyfriend is sweet, creative, thoughtful, and funny. He is also very forgetful, loses things constantly, has trouble focusing, gets excited about various projects or goals and doesn't finish them, doesn't plan social interactions, and is habitually late. He has always been this way, and has figured out how to deal with it so he can be successful. He is the "normal" one in his family; energy was always focused on his two brothers with ADD and aspergers. He does not have many close friendships, and keeps everyone at an arm's length so he can generally control the image they have of him. He always says yes to people, and some of his friends only call him when they need something. He knows this, but he says he is okay with it. He is not good at keeping in touch, and does not keep up the reciprocity of friendships. Somehow he has gotten by in life and been successful while trying to manage the day-to-day. He still lives at home because he just graduated law school, and that complicates things a great deal. His family is not welcoming to me, they have many demands of him, and try to tell him he shouldn't be dating in general. 

    His behaviors, and his reaction to my unhappiness, make our relationship very difficult. He doesn't understand why these things upset me and complicate my life, because it is how he experiences life and he claims no one else has a problem with them. People have been upset with him before, but no one else in his life is intimately involved with him or trying to have a shared experience. When he is late, he either texts me every two minutes with his whereabouts, or doesn't even let me know he is running late and says I shouldn't care. He often forgets about plans he has made, and sometimes drops doing something with me at the last minute or when we are in the middle of it so he doesn't disappoint someone else. He has a low tolerance for frustration, and can jump into an angry, dramatic spiral if I simply bring up a subject he doesn't want to discuss. He takes everything personally, even if I say it isn't about him. He is easily distracted; we can be in the middle of an online conversation and he will walk away for hours. I always have to plan when we get together because he doesn't plan things with anyone. I have gotten upset because he ignores me (and doesn't seem to realize he is doing so) when we are in social situations where he knows the people and I don't, and then he tells me it's my problem that I felt uncomfortable, and that that makes him uncomfortable. (I am not an awkward person and am polite.) When we are together, I get his attention and consideration in a way that sounds like hyperfocus, and of course it's great at the time, unless I get upset about something. We are so happy when it's smooth sailing when we are together that we even talk about getting married, but I know that we are never able to resolve conflict. He tries to communicate and support me when we are apart, but it is so inconsistent. It is hard to only feel close to him when we are together. 

    Whenever the consequences of his actions upset me, he either is completely defensive and invalidating, or gets sad and needs to run away and shut me out. I have tried to temper my frustration and my sadness, but I can't always keep it inside. He takes everything as criticism, and takes no personal or joint responsibility for some of our interactions. I think he feels really defeated by what he feels he can't change. I have brought up the subject of ADD to him, and we talk about it for a little--he says he feels like it would mean something is wrong with him as a person. I told him I understand that, because I have struggled with depression and had to work through those feelings. At the same time, he seems to blame me for our problems. He sees me as the source of his stress. When I asked him why he doesn't forgive me for things, he said that when we first started dating, he didn't remember saying or doing the things I was upset about, so he had to start keeping score so he would have something to say back. This makes me so sad. I have said that I think our real issue isn't forgiveness, but that we hold the other person entirely responsible for our negative feelings, and that we jump to conclusions about motives. We don't entirely trust the other person not to hurt our feelings because of this cycle. We are so sad because we want things to work, but our communication is at a standstill. We can't imagine being with anyone else, so I don't want to give up. And I see the separation between his behaviors and who he is as a person, even if he doesn't. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

  • Husband blew up during worksheet discussion by: bclr 11 years 4 months ago

    I don't even know what just hit me. My husband and I sat down to listen to Session 3 of the couples seminar, and we were discussing our worksheets beforehand. During our anger worksheets discussion, I said that I answered one of the questions according to my resentment because I don't really have anger. He asked me what I was resentful for. Normally I would not answer because in the last 6-8 weeks, he has been very irritable, and little things set him off. But I figured--hey, we're having a nice honest talk, so I will try to explain. Well, he immediately rejected my first answer because, "I do way more than the guys in that book." He could not understand why I would feel resentful at having to take on most of the child care, manage the household, and make sure things get done, because he does his fair share of the chores (we both work full time). When I tried to explain nicely that it is not about comparing him to anyone in the book but about addressing our issues, he exploded. He told me we don't have that problem anymore because he is done. He mentioned divorce (hopefully it is just his anger) and stormed off. (That has never happened before.) I was stunned. He wasn't even making sense, and I feel like a truck just hit me. He asked me why I felt how I did and then did not "agree with" my answer, which of course is unfair, to say the least.

    I know this is just another of his anger outbursts, so I don't take it personally, and assuming (which right now may be a big assumption) he realizes that his reaction was irrational, my question is, how do we effectively make progress going forward? Should we not discuss anything heavy until the completion of the course? I feel very afraid to be honest with him because these reactions are quite frequent recently (it was not like this before his diagnosis, so I know some of it is his own dealing with this). But every time he acts like this, I feel more reluctant to share my feelings. 

    I read in another post in this forum that the first year after the diagnosis is the worst, but how do we even make it to a year if he has this much anger and doesn't fully buy into the course? 

  • ADHD spouse and step daughter by: Beansnb1 11 years 4 months ago

    I have been married for one year to me ADHD spouse. He was just recently diagnosed, but refuses to treat because he says the military won't allow it. Our therapist called bs on that, but he still thinks he has it under control. To make matters worse, his daughter is super ADHD with a number of other issues that he refuses to address. I have patience for one, but not both. The only time we ever argue is when she is with us. Up until about 3 months ago that was only sporadically, but now she lives with us full time and it is a huge challenge for me to balance it all. She is in therapy, but neither of her parents follow throug with any of the suggestions the therapist provides leaving me to be the "nag" to him to make sure things get addressed so that our relationship doesn't suffer because of her issues. Any help would be appreciated as I am at the end of my rope and not sure what comes next. I have 2 children of my own and have raised them to be very respectful, honest, engaging children who have many friends and are well loved. His daughter has no  friends and is extremely disrespectful to all adults and thinks she rules the roost. Help!

  • Helpful insight by: muncie 11 years 4 months ago

    Hi. I'm new here, but I'm totally in.  I've been married to a woman with undiagnosed ADHD for 13 years now with 6 kids.  My wife just got officially diagnosed a few weeks ago, after I had basically given up on "my plight" as a man condemned to live in "trash can".  This is how I often felt.  That feeling of giving in was good in a way, but anger and resentment always seems to creep back at some point.  

    Anyway, after my wife's diagnosis we began to talk about getting an ADHD coach in addition to her taking medication. Our conversation started off as 99 percent of our conversations do.  She gives her reasons, I repeat them and point out where I disagree and she tells me I don't understand or am not listening, or don't want to listen, and then changes the language of what she said in order to re-explain.  I then tell her that that's what I thought she said and that my response was still valid.  She then again tells me, I don't get it, and this can go on, ad nauseam.  Here is a short synopsis of this argument about getting an ADHD coach (omitting the anger, screaming and crying):  

    I start off by mentioning, "the psychiatrist recommended that we get an ADHD coach along with the medication".  

    My wife responds, "I know, but I can't just yet, I won't have some organized person coming into my house and start bossing me around in a controlling and demeaning manner, I can have my mother to do that".

     I tell her, "It's not supposed to be a bossy organized person, an ADHD coach is a trained professional that has experience with people with ADHD and knows how to be sensitive to your issues about feeling attacked".

    She says, "I don't feel attacked, you don't get it.  I'm not ready to have someone come in here and tell me what to do, I know what to do, let me try the medication first."

    I respond, "They are not just going to tell you what to do"

    "I need to work out my own system not go by someone else's system"

    I say, "but you've tried that for years and haven't been successful, they don't just give you a system. If we find a good with with recommendations, she will be a well trained professional that will understand your strengths and weaknesses and will work with you. She will listen to what you say and make suggestions based on what you want to accomplish".

    Now we've reached tears and yelling "you just don't get it, you don't listen to me.  I cannot have someone trying to control my life."

    I follow up again, "I understand what you are saying, and I'm telling you that they will not come in and try to control you'

    She says, "That's not what I said. I didn't say I don't want someone controlling me"

    I say, "Fine, it doesn't matter what you said.  The language doesn't matter.  OK. let's say hypothetically it was possible that there was a person that would allow you to do whatever you want and only listen to you and just help you implement whatever you chose to do in terms of getting organized. All they will do is observe and assist.  No bossing"

    "There is no such person like that."

    "Let's just pretend. Totally hypothetical"

    "I still wouldn't do it. I would still feel like they are bossing me around"

    "Even if they didn't even say anything to you, but just observed?"

    "Yes"

    It finally dawned on me what was going on here.  She was describing how it would feel for her, not what would actually be taking place.  I was focused on the reality of what would take place, and she was focused on the feeling that that reality would cause her and describing it as the actual reality.  This has been going on for 13 years!  I've been pulling my hair out for 13 years, agonizing about how there was no rationality in the world, there was never any logic to her responses. It turns out that many of these miscommunications may have been because she is really describing how she would feel using the language of describing what would actually be taking place.  I pointed this out to her and she hesitantly agreed.  "yeah", she said, "I guess that is what I'm doing." She is communicating her perception of a situation, not the situation itself.  I don't think she realized there was a difference, and I was so attuned to the difference that I took it for granted that she would also take this difference into consideration when communicating.  I have a feeling that this was an important step in improving our communication, especially since I will be on the lookout for this perception vs reality dichotomy in the future.  

  • Partner of almost 10 years refusing to admit she has ADD/ADHD by: solidus_raven 11 years 4 months ago

    I was 20 when I met this wonderful 26 year old woman that was pretty, divorced,  had a child, and I thought everything was great about her. During early portions of the relationship I didn't notice things about her behavior right away but I was botheredby certain things such as having a conversation and she quickly got side tracked, and during arguments she would twist my words and said that I said things that I never said. Her past life was never my business but as I just met her she told me she just senther child to spend time with his father and he was barely a year and 3 months, and just came from the Army. She and him had issues before he was deployed and she ended up leaving him for another man while he was deployed. There were some problems in Texas that caused her to regain possession of her child that are still uknown to her but he got kicked out of the military. Either how at the age of 26 she was living with her relatives and she didn't get along with her sister in law, and probably had fights with her too every once in a while. 

    Her brother ended up kicking her out because he didn't wanted me to be in his house cause the landlord thought I lived there. In spite of him telling her over and over that I can't come over she found a way to get me to come over to see her against his wishes. She ended upliving with a coworker, and I ended up getting her pregnant and we decided to move in with each other. As much as I love her I should have known the baggage that I was dragging with me. She left her home when she was just 15 to live with her boyfriend, got pregnant, and ended up ending her relationship with him after some time. She has gone through a few relationships, and finally decided to marry someone that she just barely met in less than a whole month. Instead of dealing with her marriage after he came back from deployment she deserted him for someone else, and she ended up moving from that relationship later. So why am I discussing this? Well it is just to know about how this person has had a history of making so many poor mistakes before we were even in a relationship. Her approach to a relationship, and probably what kind of person we are dealing with.

    In the last couple of years she got so involved with her job that she never dedicated much time in the house and left me taking care of both kids while I worked from home. We never had the means to afford daycare but when she came home all the time she was always in a different zone. Straight to the couch, watch tv, and dedicate little time to our relationship. We got any many arguments, and I admit I said things I shouldn't have out of frustration. I am not perfect but I always been dedicated to our relationship. Its painful to speak to someone and say we are going to do better together so many times just for the person to relapse in some type of way and go back to the way they use to be. She is the type of person that you have to tell her what to do, and constantly remind her of things. She would forget children appointments, and expect me to deal with the issue. 

    Back in 2010 we ended up planning to break up with each other and move on with our lives. We lived in separate places but one day she knocks on my door and tells me she has to speak to me. She told me she quit her job because the person she was assigned as manager is someone she had issues with previously. This decision was so impulsive on her end and lacked of so much thought that she was jobless for 2 months and never found a job that quite payed her like that. The irony of this is that she made it difficult after our separation by picking up our daughter from the daycare whenever she felt like it and when she couldnt' she would forget to tell me. She would drop of my daughter without telling me on a day that we never agreed on and was a total rude person when we engaged into any argument. We reconcile and by the end of the year she ended up moving in. She always goes through a period of doing welll in our relationship but then she relapses and starts perceiving everything as control, and starts blaming me to be verbally abusive because I have to keep telling her the same things over and over and over. She would go to work and leave huge messes on the kitchen for me to clean, and sometimes would do the same. She would schedule cleaning one a week every once in a while and would always leave the floor really messy. Things like that caught up with me and I ended up telling her that I wanted to break up the relationship. I gave her plenty of time and notice. We would get into arguments all the time about certain things and by Feb 14 she had 5,000 in her bank account from taxes and she never found a place as she agreed on. I mounted the pressure for her to leave and by the end of the month of February I found out she quit her job and never finished a 2 week notice. Something she blames me even though I never made the decision for her. She never takes accountability of her actions. She ended up moving to my moms house and spent about 3 months in there saying she was looking for jobs but she had never built a resume to begin with and was putting applications through her cell phone . My mother was getting tired of her being in her house so I ended up trying to find her a job myself. In about 2 weeks I ended up finding her job, and after a bunch of arguments. Everytime I came to her with a job she should apply she would accuse me of being controlling and manipulating. To make matters worse, after she came back in my place she would have to wait until i ask her to clean certain messes and would never stop doing things i ask her not to do in the house. The house was never messy when she wasn't here. I come home at times and I seen her eat in the table with the kids while the table is messy and the kitchen is really messy. Or I would see her sitting down while the kitchen is extremely messy. Both of her children from different fathers have ADHD, and she actually has the face to tell me that she is ok with herself? Well I gave her until this Friday to move out. I had enough of these 10 years. 

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