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- Is it more than just miscommunication? by: wearybutwilling 12 years 1 week ago
- can individuals with adhd (innattentive type) havevery long thoughtful discussions without processing/understanding issues ? by: hmmreally 12 years 1 week ago
my wife has recently had the above diagnosis, which she self diagnosed, then got a professional diagnosis.
i have long term experience of working professionally with teenagers with adhd as a mentor , youth and community worker and have a lot of experience analysing behaviour patterns and devising work approaches to support and be aware of difficulties involved in living with adhd
i have never thought of or seen signs of my wife having any symptoms typical of adhd (innattentive type) but that she has IMO major issues from childhood (to which i sympathise) that she has never got to the bottom of.
these unresolved issues manifest themselves in a very chronically long term immature lifeview and behaviour,avoidance of worklife, immature parenting of our children, avoidance of general adult responsabilities and a very immature role in close relationships.
following the breakdown of our relationship she is sought out the adhd explanation and convinced herself and others of a adhd diagnosis.prior to her adhd diagnosis and just after the breakdown of the relationship she was very able to have similarly deep thoughtfull reflective conversations for hours at a time over issues in our relationship that were her responsability.
i have given her the benefit of the doubt on this adhd diagnosis until of late (as i and many people had had reservations on this) when we met to discuss our relationship breakdown further to resolve and put to peace such issues.
the conversation only came about due to the context of unmet family bills in need of immediate action.we spoke continually for 4 1/2 hours one night till 1.30am
then the next day from 10.30am till 5 pm, with little break . OVER TEN HOURS of honest deep reflective discussions over many a deep topic, both talking without blame or aggression but exploring topics in honest depth
during this conversation she told me of how she now has much deeper relationships with friends since the relationship breakdown. . with no mention of issues with communicating with them
we discussed issues as seeing me as a father figure, immaturity,avoidance,work avoidance fears and very often when faced with the impact of her behaviour on others she returned to 'adhd made me unable to take these things on board but now i know i have my diagnosis i can'.she often resorted to trying to get me to read her official diagnosis letter and reading sections of books on adhd to me on symptoms that she feels cover her experience 9she did this when any topics involving taking account for her behaviour came up)
AND saying she 'why didnt i see that she had a disability when i had worked in such a field for so long?', to which my reply was i just felt she had had huge emotional issues she'd never dealt with, was chronically immature (never wanted to grow up and i was her father figure) and had a lot of fear issues (that when pushed by me she often managed to achieve with ease)after ten hours of this deep level of discussion i asked her 'did she feel that that her adhd affected her processing / understanding/response to the relationship breakdown in general day today life?' to which she said NOT REALLY, NO,NOT AT ALL, all the issues of alleged adhd have disappeared since the breakdown of relationship (her only comment on when these symptoms occur now is 'sometime i feel the symptoms when im tired or had a wine')
i then pointed out to her that for 10 hours her level of engagement in conversation was very deep,thoughtfull,reflective honest and showed NO signs of any processing issues in understanding/responding/interacting/interpretreting emotions/experiences which i would expect to evidence such a disability.i believe now with absolute clarity based on such a long conversations , their content and her behaviour/articulation/abilities of reflectiveness that she has NOT got adhd at all (as i know many people with adhd of a variety of types that could in know way discuss such issues for such a long period of time in such depth,clarity,reflect with ease and voice their understanding of other peoples feelings and perspectives and that it is a complex smokescreen solution for other unresolved issues and has been off use to her in avoiding feelings of guilt and shame over her behaviour over many many years.
all the symptoms that she pins on adhd are explainable quite simply by never leaving adolescence , growing up and taking responsability and having such deep issues of dependance on me that she has never grown up
i think she felt only safe enough to have the long conversation with me because throughout i was acknowledging her adhd as being real (and thus excusing her of her guilt)i pitched to her that she may be covering some other issues over in her search for a reason for her behaviour rather than the very uncomfortable issues of looking at herself honestly due to the hurt,guilt ,fear and shame that may hold
what's your thoughts on whether someone with such a diagnosis could hold such conversations . .
- Help! by: jennalemon 12 years 1 week ago
We need to sell the house. DH will not talk about it. Yesterday I found out he had not paid last year's Real Estate Taxes...we are now fined and charged interest which we can't afford. AND this year's real estate is coming up! A couple weeks ago our electricity was turned off because he did not pay the electric bill for 4 months....not telling me. He has his messy horading in (what once was) 2 beautiful sheds, 1 garage and a large office. How do I get the house ready to sell? This accumulation of mess is WAY beyond my ability to clean up. He rents 2 warehouses/machine shops that are draining profits from his not so profitable business. They are filled to ceiling with dirty messy stuff. ie: He told me he took his truck to bring our old carpet to be disposed of a few years ago....instead I found out he is "storing" it at his shop so that he didn't have to pay for the disposal. He is not willing/able to clean it up himself....he doesn't SEE it? Any suggestions? Are their agencies/professionals/people who can help with this type of thing? PLUS the fact that he will not admit that he is not paying even HALF of our expenses? PLUS the fact that he has a separate checking account in his name only that he uses as a cash clearing house for himself? I am in a financial pickle. I feel like such a fool. I don't know how to get him out of his mess....and now it is MY mess to pay for his messes. Melissa, tell me. How much am I supposed to do/not do for/with him? What professionals can I find to have some peace of mind and help me clear things up? I am drowning and it feels like he is using me as a floating device! How do you partner financially with a person who is not able to partner with you? AND not become their mother or co-dependent? ALL my boundaries have been crossed multiple times. I can't retire by myself because of social security inequities for moms/wives.
- Relationship Anxiety and ADD by: artsygal 12 years 2 weeks ago
I was recently dx with inattentive ADD. They also think I may have the mild bi-polar as well, were still not sure at this time. My question is this. It seems my whole life i havn't been hyper on the outside but inside ive been VERY anxious, always doubting in my relationships, going back and forth, having turmoil and NO PEACE inside. I mean I pray, I do everything I can think of, and when that doesn't work I just leave the relationship to "be alone" thinking I can "fix" the doubts or anxiety on my own.
Well my first experience on ADD medicine was interesting. We only had the dosage right for about a week but during that time I felt more ambition, and more peace than ever in my life. Also an amazing thing happended, no rumination. I mean no doubts about my current relationship, no back and forth, inner turmoil. Can these constant doubts be ADD? Not just that I need to "get out" as I usually conclude. Any other women with ADD that struggle with this as well? It's tough to tell sometimes if it is the ADD or I really need 2 get out of the relationship. Currently, i'm in the "flight" mode, but I also realize i'm not in treatment for my ADD and I should do that first before I just "run." Also, its so tough for friends to understand this constant back and forth and ADD, they just think its toxic.
Thanks for this forum and sharing/support.
- Closing doors by: Cheetarah 12 years 2 weeks ago
Just wondered if anyone had any idea how I could crack this one. My boyfriend’s allergic to cats. He can get up close to them and stroke or play with them but if he spends too long in a room with a cat he gets congested and has trouble breathing, especially at night. I used to let my cat on the bed but since he’s been coming to my house more often I’ve banned the cat from my bedroom at all times.
Last time my boyfriend was here I didn’t shut the door straight away and the cat ran straight in, so I put a sign on the door that said ‘SHUT DOOR, KEEP CAT OUT’. I still managed to leave the door open at least once that weekend so I put a sign on the other side of the room so that I would see it as soon as I came in. The next evening I left the door open again.
Each night I’ve been lying there imagining opening the door and closing it again and cultivating a feeling of urgency to try and carve the memory into my brain. I’ve repetitively opened and closed the door while again attempting to attach strong emotion to the action (fortunately only the cat was witness to that one but he looked most confused) and even written lines. At one point I slammed my hand in the door in desperation. It wasn’t just anger; I was hoping it would get me to think about it and close the door next time. I still left it open. There’s now a sign taped to the edge of the door that waves at you like a flag as soon as you open it.My boyfriend has a stressful job and has trouble sleeping at the weekends. I want my house to be a restful place where he can have a break before going back home refreshed. Really, he badly needs a holiday and an escape. Until then, just being able to sleep would be better than nothing and everyone knows what it’s like to try and drift off when you can’t breathe comfortably.
Has anyone a method for people with adhd to remember to close doors?
- ADHD wife with 3 kids wants independence, space and wants to move out. by: OBIrishman 12 years 2 weeks ago
Hello everyone,
Im Danny 31 year old. I have a pretty complex situation. My wife is 25 years old and had been diagnosed with ADHD since she was little. She also has Anxiety. We have 3 kids which the last 2 are mine oldest is almost 4. My situation is that about a month ago my wife broke down and told me she needs space and her independence. I do the best I can taking on just about all the chores when shes at school during the day. I work at night time. She thanks me for keeping her anxiety down. Anyway we havent fought in a long time over her ADHD blowing up on me cause i let her just go her few min and thats it. pretty much saying im not aruging with her cause I understand how she is. Shes also told me after our talks that she is overwhelmed especially after having baby #3, she feels depressed. Also that around baby #3 started to develop she told me she started feeling depressed and more overwhelmed and more anxity. Can it be postparudum depression? Her sex drive is shot but she refuses to take meds anymore which makes me think that anit depressions are doing that. Around the house when friends are around shes happy, and fun. We rarly argue about things we dont curse each other out. She just says she feels bad that she doesnt deserve me and she does not know why she feels this way, she will always love me no matter what, bout last month or so she said she didnt want to live anymore, even that she only said it once. she feels bad for wanted to leave and have her own apartment. we dated pretty soon before we got married and had kids. She said shes not enfatuated with me like we used to. just the in love and sex drive is gone. she tells me i should go do things and go out. She thinks if she has space it will get better or maybe it wont (not is a snobby way any of this) just says she cant control how she feels. I tried asking her to go on little dates with me like we used to to bring the romance back, she just says she doesnt want to. she said she cant live without me in her life. we get along also. I know my wife loves me to death and she knows I do also. Said she always feels bad about this or feels guilty cause of that. I dont know whats goin on. sorry this is a mess of a forum i just wrote but just a little emotional. Is there anything i can do? should she just have her space and see what happens? Im pretty good at reading people and comming up with solutions but this time everytime i try another angle to save our marriage or make her feel liek she could i feel like there a wall infront of me. I just dont know what to do at this point or how to react. If anyone has any more questions please ask me i need all the help i can get. Im sure i missed a few things but my break at work is over. Thank you everyone for your help.
- Turns out there is "another man". I feel like a fool. by: zombiedad 12 years 2 weeks ago
Hi all, haven't posted in a couple of weeks.
Here's the quick stats for those unfamiliar with my story. Wife is ADD, diagnosed, I am the non-ADD spouse. 11 years married, 3 kids ages 8,5,2. Marriage in a tailspin and past year has been horrible. Many "typical" ADD related issues as well as some other red-flag behaviors on her part. Have done the MC thing for almost 3 years but it's been months since we last went. Have tried and tried to make things work but just never could get it "right". So many problems seemed to be constantly coming up out of nowhere. I knew something was up but I guess I was in denial.
Found out this weekend (after being awakened AGAIN by the dogs barking at the door because my wife was having another one of her solo telephone- and - cigarettes happy hours on the back porch) that she is involved in an affair. Just like a couple of you here mentioned.
We had had a pretty good night together before I found out, in fact, it had been a pretty good week. We watched a movie, then she said she was tired so we went to bed. I'd just started sleeping in the bedrooom again a few days prior. I woke up at 1:15, alone in the bed to the sound of the dogs barking at the back door. I immediately felt sick because I knew what was going on. I walked downstairs to the back of the house.
Sure enough, she's out there. Cigarette smoke (a NEW habit at age 35, BTW) hanging in the air, glass of wine in the hand, cell phone to her ear. She was giggling like a giddy school girl. I walked out and she hurredly ended the conversation.
Of course it was "just a friend" she works with - who she has worked with for a couple years now, also a "friend" who is a married M.D. with 3 kids, who I coach my kids little league team with, whose kids have stayed at our house, whose son I have taken to sporting events, etc. A "friend" that my wife talks about constantly with "amusing stories", who is "supportive" of her most recent career change and has helped her with her associated school work, a "friend" who complains about his wife to her... you see where this is going.
After hanging up the phone it was clearly evident that my wife was SLOSHED. She could barely speak and was staggering on her feet, not to mention the stains of wine down the front of her shirt. I told her she looked pathetic, of course she told me that saying that was "abusive" and THAT was why she "was done with me". Her "friend" is "nice to her". I didn;t continue the conversation because I just can;t deal with sloppy drunks.
The next day I told her I was looking forward to seeing her "friend" again at this weekend's practice, noting that I had to return the "friend's" son's bat to him that had been left in my truck. I also wondered aloud if perhaps "friend's" wife might be there, too. She panicked. It would cause her problems at work, it would hurt his career, I was "crazy", etc. Of course, not too "crazy" to stay home with the kids while she went out that night with "coworkers".
Last night she told me that she was going to get "help" from her parents and would be moving out. Of course, she resents me for "having" to move out and "making" her do this to the kids.
As for me, I'm actually a bit relieved to have found out. I was SERIOUSLY starting to think I was losing my mind. Seems like these ADD spouses are a bit prone to finding novelty, stimulation and excitement outside of their marriages.
Oh well - that which does not kill us makes us stronger, I suppose.
- Happiness by: jennalemon 12 years 2 weeks ago
Are people with ADHD/ADD happier than nons? I was just watching a TED speech which claims that happiness is living in the moment, putting a positive (real or unreal) "spin" on ALL that happens in your life, leaving things "open ended" rather than tightly decided. And we know that having "less expectations" is a better path to happiness. It might also be that the more responsibility you pile on yourself, the less happy you are. Acceptance with WHAT IS would seem to make a person happier rather than having desires that will never be met. If ADDers live in the reality of "now and not now"/ forgive and forget/enjoy the moment, do ADDers see themselves as happier than nons who are regretting/scheduling/planning/predicting/judging? Do non-ADDers see themselves as less happy than their ADD spouses? It seems that DH is happier than I am. Anyone have thoughts? Is there a correlation? OR are all of us who are on this site searching for a better way, for understanding, for truth, for help and we (all on this site) are just the type of people who are unable to content ourselves with what is and are we making ourselves nuts with our searching? I am guessing that we are going through a period in our lives that is pushing us toward a solution or at least an educated sense of completeness by pulling all the resources available to us to be able to be the best we can be whoever we are. And that one day we each will be able to "put it away" and file under....did that....project accomplished. We are compelled by our own desires to accomplish/excel/grow. But where does happiness lie? And which is most important to you? Can I be happy without the search for truth? Without the desires for integrity and pride? No, I am wired/taught to be a person of integrity/spirit/honorable/responsible/growing. And I must carry the burdens that brings with it. Can I ever be happy then? Or is happiness just for people who are not working toward something? And do I judge those people who are content with things just as they are without similar desires to make things better? Yes. I do judge. Yuk, sometimes I hate this intellectual side of me. I would like to be care free and happy sometimes. But I yam what I yam. Still, I can find balance and give myself those opportunities to live in the present moment and savour the beauty/pride/humor/friendships/trust/faith that exists now and then. I can permit myself to hang on a music chord in Canon in D and I can relish the tart tomatoey taste of a good Italian pizza. And I am able to balance that with moments of angst that the bills are not being paid (something I cannot tolerate and DH seems to have no problem with) and the uncertainty of the future. The trick for me is to step out of the angst enough times to hear the notes and taste the tastes. Today....not someday after things are better. Counting my blessings today.
- EXTREMELY sensitive/personal material by: ss09 12 years 2 weeks ago
Long story short - I'm non-ADD married to ADD for 3.5 yrs after a 3 yrs courtship. Typical cycle - courtship hyperfocus, led us to move in after 6 weeks. Abruptly fell away as usual w/ the occasional resurface of it here and there. His finances were a mess despite a high income. After huge battles, I got it under control and he now has A+ credit only b/c of me. The sex I learned early on that he was a happy participant as long as I instigated, which got old real quick and of course killed my self esteem. I tried to talk to him about it - the most I got from him is that when he has an orgasm during sex it's like waiting til Xmas morn to open presents and then be disappointed when all you get are socks. He also suggested kissing was like kissing his arm. Obviously painful things to hear. We fell into the parent-child cycle fast. I had the usual progression - surprise, confusion, despair, anger, anger, ANGER. Got worse after a failed first pregnancy and now have a 17 mos old daughter. Worst it's ever been since the beginning of this yr., I didn't let him in our bedroom for 3 mos straight b/c he'd hurt me and never try to make it better and I can't pretend I'm ok and lay next to him when I felt so hurt, isolated, ignored, abandoned, you name it. I learned the typical cliched - the angrier I was, the more he'd respond (briefly) until he fell back into the old patterns (as soon as I wasn't angry) so I continued to elevate the fight higher and higher as he responded less and less at lower levels. His ADD is def undertreated - he is on Adderall but our pediatrician tells me he's on a child's dose (he's 6'2). I can tell when he hasn't had it, but it's nowhere near peaceful when he's on it either. At the end of June this yr I got the "I love you but I'm not in love you" conversation. He took his ring off, only wears it in public. Ironically since that conversation we've slept in the same bed almost every night.
We've been in marriage therapy since mid-July w/ an excellent therapist who has def done good. DH claims his goal is to get things back in order w/ me, but so far his idea of "working at it" is not getting a lawyer or moving out. To be honest, I think that's laziness and not a purposeful move on his part, but whatever. Anyway, part of his lashing out at me has been to assure me he is not at all sexually attracted to me, doesn't even want to hug me or hold my hand. He went so far as to say if he were single he'd have a one night stand w/ me in a heartbeat, but b/c it would mean more right now, he's not interested. Then he wanted to be sure I know that often when he disappears into the bathroom for hours on end, it's b/c he's masturbating, sometimes for an hr or more. He works from home and I stay at home w/ our daughter, so I know he spends a lot of time during the day in the bathroom but I know it's not always to masturbate. I know it's not looks (in re: to me) b/c ... how do I say this w/o sounding cruddy? Well....let's just say I know it's not my looks that is the issue. I do catch him still check me out from time-to-time, but he often tries to go out of his way to not look at me when I'm naked...then again he has admitted he looks when I'm in the shower.
Some back story on me - I was sexually assaulted when I was 16 and it greatly affected me, obviously. Other than that, if I'm w/ someone I love, I'm very eager in the bedroom. If I feel like I'm not loved, then I'm not sexually involved. I have no problem w/ masturbation, consider it healthy. I have no problem w/ porn, watch it myself. It's hurtful to learn he has spent so much time masturbating even prior to his ILYB bomb, only b/c he knew I was unhappy w/ our sex life so I wish he'd have come to me w/ his urges. Of course now, it's particularly painful b/c of everything he has said/done to me in the last few months.
Yesterday, in the middle of the work day, I went back to his office to grab something. The door was locked (he does this so our daughter doesn't interrupt his work) but the door wasn't shut all the way so I knocked and opened it. I found him w/ porn on the huge computer screen (his office is technically our guest bedroom, too). He was sitting at his desk, in the middle of the work day, w/ his pants unzipped and porn on the screen. Some more back story- I'm taking 9 credits of upper level biology course work to complete my degree and having an extremely difficult time w/ it b/c I have no time being a stay at home mom, DH doesn't help much b/c he's "working" and that's important and can't be interrupted.
So now besides the fact I'm enraged that he has time to masturbate in the middle of the day when he's supposed to be working while I'm busting my balls w/ barely enough time to eat or pee, let alone study...besides this, I'm having these very strange emotions since walking in on him. I can't put my finger on it completely. The only comparison I can come up w/ is I feel like I did when I was assaulted. I feel sick to my stomach, on the verge of tears, betrayed, violated, the whole kit and caboodle. I can't stand the look of him right now (he doesn't know this), and it makes me sick to enter the office/guest bedroom right now. I know this wasn't sexual assault, so why does it feel like I've been assaulted? I'm so confused and feel stunted. I'm trying to follow the advice in Melissa's book, and I'm trying to do what I can to save our family/marriage. I need to get passed this, I just don't understand why I feel so strongly.
I realize this is excessively long so I truly appreciate any who made it through. Any input is welcome. - is this ADHD or something else? This sucks. by: lynninny 12 years 2 weeks ago
This is such a tough situation and I recognize that it is affecting my health, my happiness, and my children. I need this to change pretty soon. I am sorry this will be a long post. I am telling you, I used to be a kind, happy, considerate person with a great job and caring friends, a supportive extended family and a talent and joy for my work--just got a bonus and big award for doing well. I have a sense of humor. I like to have fun. But I am a wreck underneath at this point. A huge wreck, losing weight with migraines almost every day and hair falling out. My children need me. I need me to be myself again. Long story short--I am the non-, and we have been spouses for over a decade with grade school aged children. We have had a tumultuous, explosively dysfunctional relationship that has worsened to the point of being just about dead. DH admits that he has ADHD, has had it for years, used to take medication to be able to work a job that required few hours, but would not address ADHD's impact in any other area of his life. Everything was me. Or, a reaction to me. I accept my part for becoming angry and hurt. I have been asking him to go to counseling for five years. I read the books and tried to get him to: "The Five Love Languages," and about 10 books on ADHD. He read Melissa's book, said, "That's not me, I do not have self-esteem issues," underlined the parts about the spouse being angry (me), threw the book down and stormed out, and that was that. He once agreed to go to counseling, for about a day, then I sounded stressed the next day, he exploded at me, and went back to refusing. Now he says that I am the one with the problems, that I need to see a psychiatrist (I do see a therapist), and that if it weren't for me, he wouldn't have any stress in his life and would be just fine.
Years later (I think stress is an issue) DH has a serious physical disability, a condition that makes even moving around difficult, and does not work. He will not admit or discuss that his ADHD affects our relationship or any other aspect of his life in a negative way. Describes himself as a genius (he is very creative and talented and bright)--"the world is wrong, not me--the founder of so and so had ADHD! I am brilliant..." I suspect that in addition to this ADHD, he also must have some other stuff going on and that over the years, with the addition of maintaining a job, having a house, having children, and me not being so ok with him coming and going as he pleases--the stress ensued for him. So does his doctor, by the way (doctor asked bipolar? other brain/chemistry/issues? during a visit months ago--DH denies it or once said, "So? A lot of people have bipolar disorder.") I am seeing a therapist because I am so stressed out and anxious that I can't live this way any longer. I do not recognize myself. I have started investigating separating, which is awful and something I take very seriously. It will wreck us financially, of course, maintaining two households, and on top of it, he is also physically ill, on disability, and I will be "leaving" and throwing out a very sick person. We have no family in the area. But I feel trapped in this house and I. am. losing. my. ever-loving. mind. I also no longer want my children growing up and thinking that this is "normal." It is sad--we are still young, and this condition and the stress from it and our marriage have caused him to lose almost everything--job, wife, maybe living in our house with our kids -- and at this point, he is in "curl up and hide" mode alternating with "There is nothing wrong with me." He lays in bed for days on end. He gets explosively angry and out of control. He has not said a kind word or spoken to me in a kind way in at least a year. He said once that he does not want to lose everything, and cried, but he won't make even one step to change anything.
I have asked DH to see a psychiatrist numerous times and told him that I can't take care of him if he won't. On my end, I see him with some serious depression, alternating with some "highs," a physical condition that has him on disability that is aggravated by stress, and several issues that I will list that may or may not be related to ADHD. His family and I have asked him to see a psychiatrist. His doctor mentioned it once but feels DH has to agree and make the appointment unless he is in danger of hurting himself, which hasn't seemed the case. And it is true: if he does not want to address these things, it won't do any good for him to do it for the rest of us.
I guess the question ADHD or something else is also paired with: am I nuts? am I the worst wife ever? or is this as bad as I think it is and I just need to cowboy on up, cut our losses, arrange for him to get some physical help other than me, and separate? How in the almighty world am I going to explain this to our children? (And I know, I will have to do all of it). I feel so exhausted and defeated that summoning up the strength to take the next step feels huge. I eat right, I exercise, I talk to friends, see a therapist, and try to be a good person. I am just mad at myself that I am in this situation. Maybe the only answer is to just rip off the bandaid and file (I have no idea what I will have to do to get him to leave, and I really feel it is the right thing to do to keep the house and let our children live it in with me--I am the primary bread winner now, the main caretaker, and also feel like I deserve it, since I do everything). But I still feel bad. It blows.
ADHD or something else and am I the worst wife ever or is this just untenable? --
Major issues that have been going on for years and he won't see a doctor about any of them or seemingly can't address them:
1) Sleep problems, apnea, and the "last minute" cycle. Can't sleep at night. Usually can at 5 a.m. and sleeps until noon. Tough with kids who get up at 6! Recently got caught up watching a series on video and went 48 hours without sleeping, then slept all day, until 4 p.m., then awoke in agony because he hadn't taken his medicine in way too many hours and forgot to eat. Happens all the time. He has such bad apnea and snores so much--got one sleep study and it was atrocious--won't get a CPAP, or follow up even though doctor has told him it puts him at risk for all kinds of bad things and affects his health. I can't sleep with the noise--you can hear him through a closed door--we have been in separate rooms for years. Also can't do things until they are an emergency--fixing something or writing a report for work--will wait and then stay up all day and night for days to do it by a deadline. Again, tough with kids and strain on me as he goes into "save yourself, I have to do this" mode. But afterward describes himself as a hero who can work "20 hour days!" (for a week or two until the crisis is over. Then, back to hard to move or do anything mode). He did this to write a work report when we had an infant and toddler and I was going back to work after being on maternity leave. And didn't warn me that it was coming. And bragged to everyone later about being able to write this report that usually takes others 2 months, in 2 weeks! Insists that "there is nothing wrong -- you just can't handle the way I work" when I try to talk to him about what a strain it puts on me. The physical strain of doing this for years have put a toll on his body, if nothing else.
2) Blurting, anger, criticism, and verbal abuse. OK, I hate to even write this because as a smart, independent woman, I sound like I am portraying myself as a victim. What does this have to do with ADHD? DH blurts things out that I see as a criticism. It does not matter if our kids or my mom or anyone is around. "Your car is so messy, yuck," or "That is why (our kids) don't listen to you." He says that he only means to "help" when I tell him it hurts my feelings. Or that I am too sensitive. He rarely apologizes. If I have one moment of being slightly upset, mad, or hurt (1 or 2 on a scale of 10), that is all she wrote (I sound a little strained and say, "Please don't talk to me about how I am disciplining them it in front of the boys.") It is hard not to take it personally because it is about me and it is PERSONAL! He gets really mad, it escalates, I keep trying to "reason" with him (I know, I know...explaining why my car is messy doesn't help--now I just walk out of the room). But the end of the escalation is usually him yelling something awful at me, "The day we got married I knew I was making a mistake!" or "You are a horrible, fake person: I wish you'd never been born," or my favorite, "You are a terrible mother!" At this point, it has been going on for so long and I feel like I have PSTD, truly--I don't even care if it is from ADHD. These are horrible things to say to someone. I have told him that he is verbally abusive. His answer: "YOU are abusive. You start everything and get mad at me. I know it's not great to say those things, but you are always mad at me." OK, but I would never say something like that to anyone. Ever. I have tried to explain how hurt I am and he accuses me of not wanting to let go, of holding on to it and choosing to be hurt. No apology, or if there is, it is, with a raised voice, "I am sorry, OK!?" So I am supposed to walk on eggshells and smile every time he tells me in front of our children that I cooked the broccoli too long, that my car is messy, that I am not disciplining them (falls to me!!!) right? And I am not allowed to get mad or hurt, ever. And I can't tell him that he did something "wrong" or he will defend it to his last breath. He often appears grumpy, irritable, and in a bad mood, takes it out on me, and then a moment later will be nice as pie to the meter reading guy who just showed up. I am so, so, so very sad that my spouse treats me this way and says these things. He has anger issues--sure, I get pissed or annoyed, but he smashed a telephone on the floor the last time he got really mad. And any time I tell him that I think he needs some help with anger management, I get, "YOU are the angry one!" I saved a few phone messages he left for me when he was mad -- I thought they may help with getting him to see how he sounds. But now I think I may need them legally?
3) Apparent lack of awareness of others, especially me. My mother thinks he is the most self-centered person in the world, and that it is "all about him." That adds stress--now I get, "Your mother doesn't like me!" Issues with talking on, and on, and on, and not taking in the verbal or other cues from others around him. My mom and others in his family have told me that they have to leave the room sometimes to "get a break." I know he is sensitive about it, and he knows he does it, but usually his response, no matter how kindly or gently I tell him that he talked all the way through the 20 minute teacher conference we had, talking about all this educational theory he had read and how he handles raising our child, until the teacher was dumbfounded, is either, "No, I didn't," or "She just doesn't get me--other people LOVE how entertaining I am." OK. And the drama (I really think there is some narcissistic thing going on here, but if it is ADHD, please let me know if you have seen this) around anything physical or illness happening to him! He is the most melodramatic person, ever, when he is hurt or sick. Like, I think there is something wrong here--I have never in my life seen someone behave like this. His behavior, talking, drama, and need to talk about it dominates everything. He didn't used to be this way. He will go on and on moaning, and talking about how much a scrape on his arm hurts, and how bad it is, and I think that seriously, it is not that bad! All while our children are standing there saying they are hungry! His gag reflex makes him thrash around and make gagging noises (once when smelling a poopy diaper, he was so bad that a friend asked if he needed to go to the hospital). My mom got fed up with him when I was recovering from a cesarean, trying to breast feed, doing my best, and he kept going on and on about himself and how tired HE was. Recently, I told him, "The kids are sick--I have the worst migraine ever--I can only see red---and such bad cramps I can hardly walk." I never complain, I was in so much pain, and without missing a beat he said, "Hm. Oh, my back hurts so bad! Oooh, oooh, uuuh," and walked away from me, hobbling and moaning. Not any recognition whatsoever. No sympathy, no empathy. I used to get so mad and hurt. Now I just sigh. I tried gently asking, "Do you see that I am working so hard, taking care of all of us, while you are sick, and I am tired, and in pain? Do you appreciate it or see it?" "OK."--why do you need me to say it?" I wish I could just smile and shrug it off.
4) Need for me to pay attention, to listen to a long story, to drop everything and help him RIGHT THEN when he is on a "high" or doing something. Again, I try to gently say, "Hey, I can listen to you in a minute, but I just walked in the door and the kids are hungry." He gets hurt every single time and accuses me of not caring about him or wanting to spend time with him. Last week, I told him that I hadn't slept, and needed to lay down for one hour, and a few minutes later he came bursting in my room, and demanded that I just come help him hold a bolt thing while he worked on a tire on his car. Seriously. And when I explained my point of view, that I had nicely asked for one hour and that he woke me up, his answer was, "I just needed help for one second! I have to fix this or we won't be able to drive anywhere!" Like I am the jerk, I am the unreasonable one who doesn't want to help him!! Or he will go on and on about some thing he read about soy on the internet when I am trying to help the kids with their homework and get so hurt when I, after 10 minutes, stop him and tell him that I can't listen any more right then, that the KIDS. NEED. ME.
Anyone out there, thanks for listening. Just such a tough time. I am not sure there is anywhere to go with this any more but out. He tells me that I mistreat him (as he says horrible, awful things to me), and if I ever get even the slightest bit upset or stressed out, it becomes all about that and we never get to talk about the issue. His capacity for denial and deflection are amazing to behold--all he can say to me is that I am the one with the problems. Have I tried hard enough and done enough to deserve some peace? I am amazed at all of you, living with difficulty with loved ones, functioning, and at times, working it out. I know it is important for my kids to see me be calm and not react, and I am trying so hard to disassociate, to not be co-dependent, to not let them have to see their parents fight. No matter what, even if I can eventually settle all of us and separate, it will be a long road ahead and I will need to be able to deal with him as healthily as possible. But I am exhausted. I am doing EVERYTHING. I can't keep it up. This sucks.