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  • 3 months in. So depressed by: feelingcrazy 12 years 2 weeks ago

    I've been married to my adhd partner for 3 months now. My husband is a wonderful guy. He's so bright, intelligent, and fun. He's also almost completely irresponsible and (unknowingly) self-absorbed. I guess I could say our marriage is fairly typical of an ADHD marriage. He holds few household responsibilities (I do ALL the cooking - he refuses, I do 95% of the cleaning, I remind him to pay bills, etc), ignores problems then stonewalls me when I bring them up, and has this amazing way of turning me into the evil shrew wife whenever something goes wrong. He is partially treated. He has medication but is still looking for a good one that will take his health insurance. He's medicated intermittently because his psychiatrist will prescribe him medication then his insurance won't take it so he goes unmedicated till his next visit. (Easy solution - ask for a backup prescription!)

    I'm at the end of my rope. I'm likely clinically depressed. We used to function so well. We'd talk through our misunderstandings and now I bring up any problem. When I do bring it up, I end up yelling at him and raging. He used to comfort me when I was upset. Now, when I cry, he walks into another room. He says he's waiting for me to calm down so we can talk. I just feel ignored and dismissed. I'm fighting really hard not to emotionally disconnect from him.  On the other hand, when he's upset I do everything I can to console him. I thought that's what you did for the people you love. I've started to resent him because he dismisses me when I need him but I never do that to him. I sometimes wonder if he's just manipulating me to get me to behave in some specific way. 

    I was in therapy before I met him too. I used to be depressed, didn't know how to deal with anger (my family's way of fighting was to scream), and had feelings of abandonment. I got through those issues in therapy and became a stronger person for it. Now I feel like I just married someone who epitomizes all of those old feelings. He makes me feel angry, depressed, and abandoned. It's like I never escaped. All of the good things I worked for have all become unwraveled. Before therapy, I used to believe that I was never destined to have a happy life and therapy changed that for me. Now, I think I was right before.

    I've talked to him about therapy and reading this book. He seems willing to go into therapy but I had to put the phone number in front of him with his phone to get him to make the call after weeks of procrastination. He had a rough childhood and battles depression, feelings of abandonment, and binge drinking (he doesn't drink often but when he does, he doesn't know how to stop). He keeps saying he'll read the book but after weeks of begging him to buy it (and almost buying it for him but he stopped me), he still hasn't done it. I feel like if he could just understand my perspective that maybe he would stop seeing me as such a horrible person. I don't want to be this way. I hate myself.

  • I am the one with ADHD by: Ldfox 12 years 2 weeks ago

    And my husband is the non.  However, I often find myself identifying with the non ADHD wives in their rants about nothing being done.  So often, I am the one expected to organize and arrange everything.  DH comes up with brilliant ideas, then expects me to be the one to enforce them.  I try to arrange chore schedules, but by midweek, I am doing everything while he plays on the computer all day and I work outside the home full time.

  • Why Do I Feel Like the Worst Wife Ever? by: dazedandconfused 12 years 2 weeks ago

    So my hubby was supposed to get done with his overnight DJ gig at 4 this morning, but he wasn't home when I got up at 6:30am. I usually call him, fairly furious,  but I just didn't have the energy this morning. He called a few times before I left for work at 7am, but I didn't take any of them until I was on the road. I was angry when I finally answered the phone. I was doing that fake cheerful, I'm-not-going-to-let-this-get-to-me-when-it-really-has-already-got-to-me thing. The hubby is pretty perceptive and picked up on it right away. Of course it led to a serious discussion wherein I tell him that I'm tired of him not taking his schooling seriously (he dropped one class as a preemptive measure b/c he got behind in the reading and he's withdrawn from two because he was failing). I told him that if he lost his scholarships that I wasn't signing on for school loans because in my mind, if you couldn't do it for free, then you don't need to pay money to do it. He, of course, says it's not my decision and I told him that was fine, good luck finding someone to co-sign the loans with him (he's credit is wrecked). Yes, I can't sympathize. I took a full load at college and worked 20 hours a week and was still on the Dean's list. It's not because I was smarter than him; it's because I took it seriously. I was careful to not allow work to get in the way of my schooling. That was what was expected of me. I was careful to do my assignments. I didn't drop a class because the professor was going to test on something that he didn't lecture about. Yes, there were times that I did my very best and still couldn't pull the grade that I wanted. I had "C"s in math and French. But I tried to do better and while I was upset that I didn't, I walked away knowing I did my best. He doesn't understand that. I'm supposed to support him because it's been rough. I'm supposed to support him even when I don't see him read his notes or his textbooks. He says I don't see him do it. Maybe that's true. Maybe he does it while I'm at work. But if he does, then why is he failing classes? And why does he still miss class on a regular basis?

    I'm just tired of giving him support when he blows all his chances. And he expects me to still support him and when I don't, then his low self-esteem is my fault. I don't respect him, etc. The only reason he's going back to school is to get a degree so he can find a decent job. Then act like it, I want to scream! Education is a privilege and yet he doesn't get that. He says he can't get a different job from the one he's got now (working part-time in a bar as a DJ and cook). He stays out all night even when he doesn't work. How am I supposed to support him when he's so determined to fail?!? And yet, I'm supposed to because he's made forward motion this year. He's living with me finally, he's back in school, etc. When did you start receiving credit for doing things that a grown adult male is supposed to do? He's so determined that he doesn't have a disability, that the ADHD doesn't really affect him, yet I'm supposed to throw a party because he does what he supposed to do? WTH?!? If he just sucked it up and did what he was supposed to do, we wouldn't be in this mess. If he hadn't been chronically late and determined to buck authority, he'd still be a cop (a sergeant by now according to him); he'd still be happy; he'd still be able to treat me like he used to.

    And yet under all my anger and resentment, I still feel bad. I feel bad because he can't sleep. I feel bad because he's got bleeding ulcers. I feel bad because he worries. I wonder sometimes, if he feels bad when I worry about where I'm going to come up with the money to buy groceries?

    I'm so tired. I've been at this for nearly five years. The up-and-down. The watching him always get in the way of his best intentions. I won't leave but I struggle on a daily basis to let go of him and let him do his thing. I'm determined to have my say when I should just keep my mouth shut. Why can't I do that? It's a struggle nearly every day to just let go, to not get upset over the same things over and over again, and yet I do. I feel so weak and useless. I feel like if I could get beyond and stay beyond these emotions, things would at least be more even keeled. I'm supposed to rely on God, I shouldn't have a problem, and yet I find myself praying to him over and over again. On the good days it's "Help me remember to let things go." On the bad days, it's "Why am I here again?"

    He's got a quiz today and I feel wretched. I feel like I wasn't able support him and now he's going to fail it too.

  • I could really use some advice right now by: andramont726 12 years 2 weeks ago

    My husband and I have been married for almost five years now. Ever since we got married our relationship has been rocky. He has always threaten to end the marriage and divorce me at least 4 times a year or more. He has high expectation for me and I always seem to fail him. I know I am not suppose to lie but I sometimes do with him because I feel like everything I say to him he does not like. I have hard communicating to him every little thing to him. If I withhold any information or detail from him he considers it a lie. I do not have the best memory and tend to forget a lot. Now I feel like my marriage is falling apart and can not be saved. I have told him that I will change so many times its to the point that he does not believe me and I don't blame him for it at all. we argue a lot, our intimate life is down hill. I don't know how to be a wife, a full time student, and a full time employee and be able to meet all his expectation. I ask for help from him but he tells me that he as able to do all those things and still have time for me but I cant do it all. things don't come easily for me like they do for him.

    please help I need to earn my husband trust back and save my marriage

    Thanks

  • Can't Handle his ADD anymore! Therapy is Offering Little Hope :( by: coogles916 12 years 2 weeks ago

    I didn't mean for this to be so long... sorry!

    My husband and I have been together for 17 years but his ADD symptoms seem to be getting worse and worse as the years pass… I am at my rope's end.  Is it normal for the symptoms to accelerate with age? He received diagnosis from our therapist about 6 months ago and made an appointment with our family doctor for follow up but forgot/missed the appointment and has not rescheduled. When I bring it up he gets defensive and the conversation ends. I feel he needs intervention now more than ever; I know that I cannot live this way much longer.

    I have considered asking him to move out on his own for a few months -- I fantasize about watching him “crash and burn” as he tries to live on his own in hopes that he’d hit rock bottom and realize how dysfunctional the ADD makes him without me there to coax him along in life. I feel like he’s been this way so long, he’s constructed this façade that he believes fools the world… but he’s only fooling himself.

    He does not seem to be concerned or bothered that he is constantly forgetting things, losing items, not finishing projects, etc. I am always the one who has to come to the rescue to fix things (even the car!) and I am so TIRED of having to worry and manage every detail of our lives. Over the years, less complicated chores have fallen to him because he cannot be counted upon to take care of important things. Even then, he takes short cuts on “his” tasks, often to the detriment of our family. When I try to discuss it, he becomes defensive, makes excuses or tries to blame me or the kids. It’s insulting that he thinks he can fool anyone with his excuses. He refuses to admit his role.

    This morning was one of his classic ADD moments. He left with the kids for school/work at 7:30am. When I came downstairs at 8:30am to go to work myself, the front door was wide open! I needed to leave, so I grabbed my purse, hit the door lock and closed the door behind me before realizing that my cell phone was still in the house. But when I went to get back into the house, he had removed my house key from my ring without telling me and didn’t put it back on my ring. So now I was locked out with no phone. Things like this happen ALL THE TIME... and I'm on my own to fix it. I'm so SICK of it.

    I completely understand why another poster mentioned that her spouse seemed “mildy retarded” because I often feel that way about mine. In my mind, it is not possible that a functional adult could make the same mistakes over and over and over again unless they had some form of retardation going on.

    On top of all this, he is incapable of dealing with any critical areas of discussion; each and every time I try to talk about things important things with him, he withdraws. He avoids any conversation that involves dealing with emotions; he’ll chat it up about current events, news articles he’s read, upcoming plans we have, etc. but any topic that may involve our family or feelings… he’s out. He sits there quietly and does not respond. I feel like this is his way of “punishing” me for trying to make him deal with grown up topics and issues. I think he’d prefer that I handle these harder topics on my own without troubling him with them. Yeah… that seems fair, right?

    We have been in marriage counseling for several months and the therapist insists that we are in this cycle where the underlying problem is that we just aren’t “connected”. She would like me to ignore all of his screw ups so that we can become “connected” again. But no matter how many times she tries to convince me, I just don’t see how this will solve the problem with the ADD behaviors. I don’t care how “connected” I am to him; I refuse to continue to follow him around with a pooper scooper for the rest of our lives, fixing his screw ups.  I am also very resentful of this therapy approach because I feel like, once again, he gets off easy and I do all the work. I have to step away from my own frustrations to protect HIS delicate sensibilities so he can feel “safe” again and connect with me so I'll be able to overlook the ADHD. I just don't see that happening.

    I’d like to know what other approaches are used in ADHD/marriage therapy? Our therapist specializes in ADD but does not ever want to address the impact that his disorder and behaviors have on our marriage. Every time I try to bring it up, we go back to needing to be connected. I just don’t think that’s the answer. Anyone?

  • Bravado and Divahood by: jennalemon 12 years 2 weeks ago

    I am coming to understand more and more about this ADD with my DH.  It is not so much the condition itself but his particular coping with it.  His main objectives seem to be to avoid vunlerability and to amuse (divert?) himself.  When bravado (or divahood) and manipulation are mixed with ADD, an unsuspecting non-ADD spouse is crushed. If he would let me in, in a spirit of vulnerability and connecting, I would have a chance to love him for his efforts toward connecting with me. As it is, I am afraid of his ability and willingness to hurt me.

  • WHY Do I Feel Invisible? by: cbrooks123 12 years 3 weeks ago

    Is this something my fellow "non"s have experienced?:

    We (I and my ADHD spouse) have been dealing with a volatile issue-money(go figure). Since this, and let's be honest, sometimes when we are doing ok, I reach out and...nothing(he's not there/doesn't want to talk). Then, he brings up a touchy subject, I respond, I ask for a response and...nothing. I do not hear back from him, until muuuch later, and then it is almost like it never happened. I start to wonder if I am crazy...?

    He says he will call, I don't hear from him. By the way, this is NOT the norm when we are doing fine. When I ask what happened, he gets angry/defensive. Then, he comes forward and calls me. When we talk this time it is like nothing happened. I reach out, he doesn't answer. And around and around we go. Any insights on this bizarre behavior?

  • Battle Fatigue by: jennalemon 12 years 3 weeks ago

    The difficulty I am having is this:  I don't know what DH is doing with his life, with our money, with his business, how he feels, who he is.  He could be depressed or going crazy or having an affair or he could be fine with his coping skills and "leave me alone" attitude. I don't know because he manipulates me with lies and distraction but does not share him self with me.  I feel like a fool and I am lonely for real companionship and partnering in life rather than this battle.  

  • Fiancé Newly Diagnosed. Not sure I can deal. by: Sidney Cozzoi 12 years 3 weeks ago

    This post is part rant, part seeking help and ideas.

    I grew up with a brother and a mother who were both diagnosed with ADHD right around the same time (1991 when it was "all the rage") so I've essentially been a mom all my life. About 2 months ago, my fiancé was diagnosed with ADHD. We've been together for 4 years, and we've lived together for a year and a half. I've always been easy going and the opposite of a nag. With him, I feel like the uptight, nagging mom all over again. We are going to therapy together and he started a low dose of Aderall. Today (after forgetting to fill his Rx on Monday) he was to up his dose with his new Rx but the pharmacy won't have it until Tuesday. He is completely without meds and he has a deadline for work this weekend. His ADHD is ruining his career. In the last year it seems he cannot maintain a job more than a month or so at a time. He says he cannot work without his pills and he said he's afraid he's come to rely on them. I've done so much research to find other ways to help him, but he refuses to try anything but the pills and basic talk therapy. I feel like I can talk until my face turns blue, I don't feel any better and I am trying to accept that this won't change. I can deal with my mother's ADHD, she works hard to keep it under control, and she's worked hard to give me everything she could as a mom. My partner just wants to throw money at everything to make it 'all better' but he's not making any money because he can't keep a job. He can't wake up on his own. He can't take his pill without me handing it to him. I cannot ask him to take on any responsibility without a tantrum followed by forgetting to do it (he agrees that the accurate word for it is 'tantrum'). He can't - refuses to - cook, he can hardly do his own laundry. He is incapable of functioning as an adult. It feels as though he turned 15, having been catered to and pampered his whole life, and stopped evolving. I'm told I am incredibly patient, but that's not enough. I just don't know what I can do to ease this situation. I am about to start a new career that involves being a full-time student and, if he can't keep a job, a full time job. I'm terrified that it's all going to fall apart if I don't do something.

  • Am I crazy? Am I really the prolem? by: WhyWhyWhy 12 years 3 weeks ago

    I am the non and hubs is untreated. Our 5 years together have been a struggle. He is a wonderful man but his impulsivity both in spending and behavior has been a problem. It is much better over the last few years than it was in the beginning. His lack of parenting to his children has created some difficult situations. His lack of attention to cleaning up after himself has been an expensive problem.

    We had a big blow up last week that really involved his lack of parenting but he seems to feel that I expect unreasonable things out of his teens. BTW, both his kids are also untreated ADHD, one tested the other I can just see it. I ask that his kids participate in the housework, treat me respectfully and in general clean up after themselves. I realize that teens don't always do these things but given that I raised 2 myself, one of which was an untreated but very adaptable ADHD I don't think what I ask is outlandish. Anyway, the end result is that he has decided to go see a dr. about getting meds. But, he says that if the meds make him feel bad or don't seem to work he will quit taking them. He says that he will not go to any kind of counselor, coach or do anything else to treat his ADHD even if the drugs don't work. He says he is done because he has done all the work in our relationship and I'm unreasonable.

    I have to admit that I have been carrying around a lot of anger. He has expected me to raise his kids but if I make rules and they don't follow them I can't withhold anything or ground them, basically meaning any rules I make are unenforceable. In the past, if his kids got upset about anything I did such as saying they couldn't go out to play until they had done their chores then he would scream at me for hours. This has made me a little gun shy about dealing with his kids. He has gotten much better about some of this stuff but it still is very hard for me to want to tell his kids to do anything. He says I'm unreasonable and childish because I won't put his behavior in the past (um, he just yelled at me last week for being unreasonable about expecting his kids to not be in the shower during the time I said I need to shower to get to work although he says that is because I told him instead of dealing with it myself. He told his kid that I was mean and negative but she'd better follow my rules so I don't fight with him.)

    In the past he has spent money on impulsive purchases. We are financially struggling but he took some money I was holding for someone else and went and bought a piece of property. This money was entrusted to me as a trust fund sort of thing for my kids. He doesn't understand why I'm upset since he has meant to put it back and has repaid some of it. Again, I'm mean and negative. He just wanted to do something nice and since his intentions were good I should quit holding on to my anger.

    This week, he has decided that while he needs to wake up by himself so he can manage to keep the job he has (yes there have been problems in the past). He has also decided since I won't parent his children the way he wants me too he needs to take over. Uh, ya, what have I been saying for 5 years? They are your children. They have a real mother and father. I am not it. I can help them do stuff and encourage them but it is not my job to be their only active parent. So he has woken up by himself for 4 days and he stayed on top of the kids to get them to do their chores and do them properly, not half way. He has taken the approach that since he has to do these things himself he is entitled to nearly rape me in the middle of the night. No consideration for my pleasure, just for him to get his. Again, I need to let go of my unreasonable anger because I'm not fun and happy so of course he doesn't want to have real sex with me.

    Which brings me to this morning in which he said because I refuse to have fun with him he doesn't see a lot of reason to stay with me. I work 24 hours a week, live with the stress brought on by 3 ADHD people and go to school full time, 15 credit hours per quarter of 300 level classes. I wonder why I'm not a lot of fun anymore. He says I'm too negative and drag him and the kids down. The reality is I am angry at what he has done that affects me (I know that us codependents need to learn to not let what other do affect our lives but it is hard to live with someone who has their own special memory of conversations and events or perhaps lack of memory). Codependents are supposed to let others hurt themselves and not make it personal but that is hard when your house is trashed, your yard is trashed, almost every possession you own has been damaged, you have to pay many of the bills because your partner won't, etc etc. These things affect me whether I detach or not. 

    I just feel like I'm crazy. Logic says that a lot of our problems are caused by all the ADHD in our household but he tells me the real problem is me being so mean and not letting go of things. Since I've had problems in the past maybe that is true and he is absolutely right that I'm all the problem. He says he thinks I'm working up to having an affair with my boss. I really like my job and feel like I need to quit it now. I have no interest in my boss that way, he is a really nice, married guy. My job is non-emotional and while some would find it stressful I find it soothing and methodical.

    Thank you for letting me vent. Many people think that I should just leave him because they don't really understand that severe ADHD is challenging in relationship. He is a wonderful man and is very generous when he is in the right frame of mind. We work well together in many aspects but we also seem to fight all the time. Neither of us likes it but the only way we don't fight is if I never bring up anything that is bothering me, never express a desire for anyone to do anything, but even then he sometimes gets upset because he thinks I'm thinking something. I do that some too but his can be pretty out of the blue. Mine seem to revolve around him yelling about something and then I feel like he's mad at me as opposed to just mad about something.

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