My husband, adult son, and 13 year old nephew were working on scrapping out a vehicle. I looked out the window and saw a potentially dangerous situation. I went out and voiced my concern to my ADHD spouse. I am such-a-trained-chimp when it comes to being very cautious how I approach concerns -walking on egg-shells - making sure to use I statements so as not to come across as attacking. All that communication effort was in vain - the situation turned ugly. I was told I had no business sticking my nose where it didn't belong. He doesn't come in and tell me how to make cheesecake, so I had no business telling him what to do. I am still in shock over the results of this encounter. What's a person to do in these situations? I think it is out of line to compare baking to a dangerous situation. Sigh.
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- Cheesecake, safety, and sticking my nose where it doesn't belong by: I'm So Exhausted 13 years 1 week ago
- I Can't Stand His Video Games. by: spiceoflife 13 years 1 week ago
When we got married, my husband and I were 22 years old. I never minded a little fun with video games every once in a while for myself. Growing up with 3 computer addicted siblings, I had developed a "moderation in everything" attitude. My husband knew before we got married how much I wasn't into guys that plugged themselves into machines for hours of recreational time. In fact, I was totally turned off by it. He was conveniently not one of "those guys" while we were dating. We're 11 years down the road, 4 kids later. Naturally, being he is easily distracted by many things to the detriment of our relationship, I have come to loathe many video games, especially anything my husband parks himself in front of. Gah! There's nothing admirable about seeing someone's head 4 ft. from the computer with a blank look on their face as they fiddle away with a controller every day. The hours he has spent plugged in, requiring me to drag him off to help have left me exhausted and very ticked off. It's not my job to regulate him, but he's all I've got to do the job requirements he picked up when he became a husband and father. He gets this, "This is who I am" attitude. Well, goodness. What about who I am and was before we were married? I'm STILL that person, but stuck with the affects of his problem now. What if the tables were turned? He'd resent being the one doing chores, taking care of kids, trying to rope me in for help, and trying to sleep to the sound of my video game controller clicking. And that's not the only sound if he's not using his headset. You know how many times I've woken up between 2 and 4 A.M. because my husband is yelling at his teammates on an online first person shooter game? The kids complain about it, too. On school nights. And don't get me started about the fact that he's playing gory games in front of our kids despite my futile efforts to prevent that.
You know what the irony is? He's happy and more able to manage his ADD when he isn't plugging into things like video games. It's like he's adding to the chaos in his mind when he plays, not to mention that he is also slapping a ball and chain to it at the same time.
It's the same thing for everything with him. He rationalizes reasons to head right back to the rut that gets him into trouble over and over again. Once he's there, he's not up for listening to reason. "Video games help me to relieve stress." "It's my hobby." "You should play, too." Yea, that response makes me want to never play another video game in my life. And I haven't in years. The worst reaction I get when I'm trying to appeal for change is, "This is who I am. I don't see why you think this is a problem." In fact, it is that delusion that fuels the vicious cycle of his ADD treatment from starting, running, slacking, finally to failing. His bum has to hit rock bottom before he'll see he's got to start back over again. He cycles around and around and around. He is 90% unaware of himself, leading to a state of delusion. Instead of having ADD, ADD is becoming him.
- I'm so close to being done by: Elsie 13 years 1 week ago
I am the non-ADHD spouse. Although my husband is decidedly not "H". He was diagnosed shortly after our eldest child was diagnosed not quite 10 years ago. They are both ADD, inattentive type. Able to hyperfocus, but unable to focus. They get along very well and speak in their own shorthand that does not require attention to complete sentences.
In a grand development, his new psychiatrist decreased his dosage of medication and he thinks she's an idiot and thus, he is SO not going to see her until another med check is absolutely positively required.
Once we were married, our romantic life took a nosedive. And when I say "once we were married" I mean, once we walked back down the aisle. I should have seen it. I didn't. And the pressure to stay married from our extended families was intense. We have discussed this issue numerous times with promises that all is good on his end! He loves me! He likes spending time with me! He enjoys my company! Awesome. Except for the fact that every action begs to differ.
I read the book. I don't nag. Rather... I haven't for years. We've been married well over 20 years and I can be taught. I know that nagging doesn't help. I also know that not nagging doesn't help either. He will get around to doing things when he gets around to doing them. But there are solitaire games to be played and Angry Birds has a new game out. He is happy to help when I start doing things myself. I don't want HELP. I want him to DO it. I want him to see the floor boards are rotting and need to be replaced. I want him to see that the weeds in the backyard are brushing the eaves of the house. I want him to take all that stuff we bought at Home Depot to make "this thing" and MAKE the thing. I'm tired of being the one that keeps track of what needs to be done. I'm tired of the one that figures out how to get it done because if I mention it again, a year later, I get the hangdog look. He looks like a whipped puppy. A shamed little boy.
His excuse is that he is tired. Yea. Ok. I get being tired. And when I was a stay at home mom, I didn't get as irritated. But I have a full time job now. I just don't think it is unreasonable to expect dinner to be started when I leave all the necessary ingredients on the counter WITH INSTRUCTIONS on what needs to be done. He sees it as informational. "Oh. I see we are having spaghetti and that meat needs to be browned, onion needs to be chopped and that tomato sauce needs to be added to the whole mess".
Then when he goes to bed three hours before I do and "forgets" to tell me goodnight? No worries. I'll get the laundry done. I'll clean up the kitchen. YOU are exhausted. I guess. I guess you've gone to bed.
When I bring these frustrations up, again I get the hangdog. I also get a promise to do better. Which lasts precisely two weeks. I won't have to clean the kitchen for two weeks. So just tell him every two weeks! THEN I'm nagging. Because he IS doing it.
I have given up on our sex life. I'm tired of initiating and being met with either "too tired" (and yes... he's been medically checked on that point. Everything is dead on normal) or it's over so damn fast that I don't know why I bothered. He's a happy camper and off to other things. I'm left wondering if having an affair just for sex is permissible under the usual rules of marriage. We don't share a bed. It started for one reason and now.... I'm just fine with it. Our different schedules (he goes to bed hours before I do, and thus is up hours before I am.... you know.... cause solitaire needs to be played and Angry Birds has been updated) allows me to read or take a leisurely shower before going to bed without bothering him.
I have gone on the offense. Let me set an example for you! So I do what HE needs to have done to feel loved, wanted, desired. As a result, I don't fill my gas tank most of the time. He fills my car with gas as a favor to me so I don't have to do that! He also makes coffee in the morning. By which I mean, he checks in the evening to see if the pot is empty and if it is, he sets it up to brew in the morning. This needs to be done about every three days. YES. He remembers to do that. But forgets to tell me goodnight.
He is well respected at work. He's looking at getting a Big Deal Promotion! He is well known, well liked and very very good at what he does. He is smart and can quickly learn new things. He frequently is thought of as having a greater knowledge than he actually does because he can learn new things so fast.
I'm tired. Physically and emotionally. He thinks his ADD is under control and he is FINE. He thinks our marriage is FINE. I'm tired of being in charge. I'm the one that makes sures bills are paid. He has no idea how much the college bills are. He gets irritated when I stress about money out loud. So I don't. I "don't" do a lot of things out loud.
And this is the first time I've ever told a soul about all of this. My support system is zero. EVERYONE knows us as the Ideal Couple. Except that I'm rather a grump and am prone to being a real bitch. He, naturally, is a great guy and is the life of the party. If you want to have fun, call my husband. I OFTEN feel that I am invited because it's just rude to only invite him. I know he will get our friends in a divorce. I'm fairly certain he'll get my family too. Because you know how I'm always so hard on him and need to lighten up already. So if we were to divorce it would be MY fault and my unreasonable expectations. Of course.... to divorce would be near enough on it's own for disowning. If I were to pull the plug, I do so knowing I will be on my own completely. I just have to decide if being alone on my own is better or worse than being alone and married.
I don't think I have a question. Maybe I do in there somewhere.
I'm just tired.....
- HELP... I am new here and need some advice by: Emmanic 13 years 1 week ago
I have just found this site and think its awesome, have read a couple of posts and its like reading a page out of my journal.
I have been with my partner, Sam, for seven years. He has recently been diagnosed with Adult ADD/ADHD. Its amazing to finally have explanations for all those things that I put down to him being lazy, unmotivated, etc... BUT I feel like Sam uses this as a crutch.
We have a nine month old daughter together, and since she was born I have been feeling more and more resentful that he doesnt do more to help and/or get well. It got to a point where I felt like I was putting too much pressure on him and made the decision that we should separate for a period of time. This is very recent (Like I moved out 72 hours ago) and I am finding it so hard to cope. I miss him terribly and so does Isabella (Our DD). Ive left him everything, the house, the car, the furniture, the animals as I felt I couldnt leave without knowing he was going to be ok... and I feel like Ive lost everything. I feel like there might be no hope that things will work out for my family, cause I DESPERATELY want my family to be together and happy.
We decided that this wasnt a "Break Up" but a seperation. The financial issues were causing me to get severly depressed as he doesnt have a job (He has had MANY MANY jobs, but is unable at this stage to keep them) and so I have been working fulltime since our daughter was 3 months old as we literally had NO money to survive. The house work was never done as I was always exhausted by the end of the week, running around after Sam, Izzy and of course myself.
Sam says that he wants to try and work things out and that we will eventually be together again, but he also says things like he cant promise that we will be together as a couple at the end of this trial separation (We decided on a year, but MY GOD that is so hard to comprehend not being together for a year, so maybe re-assess in six months time...) I have suggested couples counselling which he is keen on, but doesnt want to start yet as he feels like he is trying to put too much on his plate at once.
This diagnosis is great as it gives and explanation of WHY he does the things he does. But I dont want it to be an excuse as it seems to have been in the past when he doctors dianosed him with bi-polar and depressed... We have seen a new doctor who picked up immediately that he was undiagnosed ADD/ADHD and he is still working out the medications as they dont seem to helping at the moment.
Has anyone got any advice for me as this is obviously the beginning of our journey with ADD/ADHD and I just want some tips on how to get through without him... I miss him so much and cant imagine my life without him as my other half...
- Reading the book, frustrated finding help by: sanctum 13 years 1 week ago
I'm the more ADHD of the two, and have begun reading Orlov's book. I'm about half way through and have noticed and emphasis on finding "someone who knows how to treat ADHD". This emphasis seems critical, and I can imagine why. The wife and I are seeing a marriage counselor now, and while she is a licensed family therapist and knows some of the difficulties concerning ADHD, I'm not sure she is the specialist that will help me through the specifics of my symptoms.
To complicate things, I would like to find someone that falls under my companies health benefit plan (since money is always a problem). For the past two hours I've unleashed my hyperfocus trying to compare those specialists listed on the local CHADD website to the list of specialist on my insurance provider list and have come up with no matches.
Conceeding that the CHADD list didn't have any matches on my provider list, I decided to go through the insurance provider's list seeking those that listed "Adult Therapy" and "ADHD". It seems like this approach is much like throwing darts, If I find a specialist and try to go to their website to see their disciplines, location, times, etc. their websites are down or useless, and Google doesn't help on this front as it is chocked full of useless content agragation pages.
Has anyone found a good approach to finding a recommended adult ADHD therapist/specialist/psychiatrist on their insurance without feeling like they were throwing darts trying to get lucky?
Thanks.
- Question- I'm new by: How Long will t... 13 years 1 week ago
I've been reading a lot on this site. It has been extremely helpful and certainly makes me realize I am not alone. My question is this. I see most all people seem to have an issue with their ADHD spouses being procrastinators, late, and financially lacking (paying bills late or can't keep a job) But my DH is the exact opposite of this. He is early to everything- to a fault, the minute a bill comes in he pays it, he has had the same job for 14 years, and 12 on the job before that. These are very good things, but can be very frustrating. He gets aggravated if he seems like he won't be 10 minutes early to the party. Or if there is a discrepancy on a bill it makes him so anxious I have to make the call to find out what the issue is. This does not seem to fit the profile for an ADHD adult, yet he has all the other "symptoms". What do you make of that.
- Even if I want it to work, how is it possible to keep healthy? by: artsygal 13 years 1 week ago
For example, my husband has severe ADHD he is up all night, sleeps a lot during the day. I wake easily if he turns on the tv, bumps into something, etc. and this interferes very much with my job. They have tried giving him a sleeping pill, but even when he tries sleeping with me I cant sleep his foot is tapping, hes rolling around, or talking, etc. He is easily angry and you never know what mood will occur on a given day. He is having difficulty keeping a job and I am the main provider although I know he would like it to be different. I also would like it to be different some day so I can do my art more and work less.
He has no interest in sex only cuddling but that is difficult to tell if it is ADHD or past trauma. He doesn't meet my needs often and now I know he doesnt do it on purpose but that he isnt really able to. The house when I am with him is a full time job, its like living in a pile of filth and I spend all my days off cleaning and its never ending. I really want things to work, but I guess when ive tried being with him "full-time" I get very sick because of no sleep, and the work it requires to care for everything. Now I rent a room to get away and im wondering if in order to keep the marriage I may need to do that forever? Be married but have a room away from it all so I dont get sick? This ADHD stuff people really dont realize how severe it can be. The nurse is still trying different doses of ritalin with him and sleeping pills. Last dosage was far too high and he was sooo anxious up all night and not eating a thing. So now hes on nothing as we both couldnt take that. Hope they can figure out a good dosage. I have a feeling he is so severe ADHD that it may be an actual disability in his case, I hope not but its just the way things are looking 3 years into the marriage. Thanks for letting me share and vent.
- Very frustrated with ADD partner by: feelingtrapped 13 years 1 week ago
I have reconsidered what I posted earlier and actually wanted to delete the post entirely, but couldn't figure out how to do so. Thanks for making this forum available.
- What if I don't sense hyperfocusing? by: therippleeffect 13 years 1 week ago
I've been with my ADHD partner for 6 months. The beginning was different; I remember feeling as if there were hints of hyperfocus, but mainly because we had looser schedules and practically lived in each other's backyards. It was easy to be together and spend time. Fast forward a few months, and he's moved 30 minutes away, and we both have busier work schedules. I don't usually see him during the work week, and if I do, it's only for an hour or two late in the evening. We generally spend weekends together because of the lack of time during the week.
I find myself concerned because I feel like he's pulling away from me. Lately, I've noticed he keeps planning things to do with his "guy friends" (who don't have girlfriends). I brought this up to him, and he told me that he would need this kind of space, no matter who he dated. He called it a "break" that he needs to take every once in a while. I understand the need for individuality. However, I feel that I have that for myself during the week - I engage in hobbies and see my friends and family. He doesn't have work hours that permit him to do that, so he crams it in during the weekend.
On top of this, he consistently changes plans at the last minute - and it seems like it's easy to do with me. It doesn't seem as if he'll cancel on a guy friend, but he is likely to change things around on me, disappoint me. We have had conversations about this, but it doesn't seem to change. He said he's entitled to "change his mind at any time" - as I am as well. Unfortunately, I'm a planner.
I can't tell if I'm turning into a co-dependent partner, or what, but I feel upset and jealous that he doesn't seem to want to hyperfocus on me. In all of my past relationships, my partners wanted to spend EVERY SINGLE MINUTE WITH ME. At times, it was smothering. In this relationship, I feel like I'm more of a hobby to my boyfriend than a partner.
He has amazing qualities, many of the characteristics that I see in a future husband. He is adventurous, charismatic and often happy go lucky. But how do I know if I should keep dating him? How do I know now (at 27) if my partner (who is 26) will turn out to be one of the bad cases that I read on this forum?
Note: he has been on medication for several years.
Please help. At this point, I don't even know what I'm asking. I just need someone to talk to who can relate to anything written above.
- Compassion for my husband at work by: babykellan 13 years 1 week ago
My husband has fairly severe ADHD. He is also high intelligence, so he was able to compensate for a long time. Once job and family etc. etc. came along things became complex. He was not diagnosed until he was an adult. He is a pastor. His parishoners, especially in leadership have no understanding of ADHD, though we have tried to explain. There is no attempt to learn, only criticism. If I can work with my husband so can they. I feel so defensive. He is often tired, or occasionally will forget something. He runs late. He has quirks, like doodling etc. There is a lot of hostility toward him because he is different. This really hurts me. I feel so defensive of him and angry because people come to me as if I can "fix" it. "It" doesn't need fixing! It is just a different situation. I am studying to become a therapist as a result of living with and ADHD husband and child. I think there is A LOT of room for understanding and certainly flexibility. This seems like a no-win situation. It really makes him feel defective. YUCK.