Sometimes in a marriage, you have to talk to your partner about "serious" topics. Decisions must be made, options considered, or progress evaluated on things like finances, family schedules, or putting the relationship on the "front burner" now and then. My guy has told me, though, that his biggest fear in starting these "serious" conversations is that they "will never end." He said while we talk he keeps wondering "Is this almost over?" Kinda like I feel in the dentist chair? This astonished me, because we are not a couple who spends a whole evening, or even an hour either talking or arguing about serious topics. I have even monitored the time in order to better understand his feeling like this... to make sure I wasn't trapping him for hours on end, but not realizing it. A recent example was checking in to see how our new strategies for tracking the budget are working for us. (And they are working, so shouldn't this be a "good news" conversation?) It was 12 minutes long! And he was edging away as we finished up. My question to ADHDers is, is 15 minutes really too long to talk about serious stuff? Or does 15 minutes feel like hours? I want to clarify that these are not heated, contentious, arguing discussions... I am not nagging, pushing, blaming...these are "two people who love each other" discussions about making sure we schedule an evening out, or celebrate how we're saving money toward an exciting goal, or what changes we might need to make in our morning routine so we both leave the house feeling good. I'm smiling now, because my guy would read those words and say AAACCCH! LET ME OUT! DON'T WANT TO TALK! I think it is physically painful for him to talk about anything other than his current projects, a story from the news, or what the neighbors might be up to. It's like he wants to avoid confrontation, but there is no confrontation. Sometimes the topics are even ones I've heard him suggest, e.g., "We need to talk about what to do about replacing the truck." It doesn't seem unreasonable to me to say that 15 minutes is not "too long" but am I asking for too much? Or is he playing me, and any amount of time on topics he'd rather not think about is too much. He always suggests we do it at another time, and that time never seems to arrive. I'm not going to stop requiring that these conversations happen -- that's one of my bottom-line needs-- but I had hoped to cause him less pain in the process.
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- How long is too long? by: gardener447 13 years 1 month ago
- Girlfriend thinks I'm constantly eyeing up other people by: dreamsbedreams 13 years 1 month ago
Hi,
I'm 21 and have recently been diagnosed with ADHD, looking back now I have always showed signs of it since a young age ( easily distracted, bored easily, daydream, completing tasks on time, really forgetful etc.). My girlfriend has got very annoyed with me on multiple occasions because when we walk along the street I tend to drift off and would keep on looking at things around me, whilst not actually paying attention to what I'm seeing and just daydreaming. When she see me looking around she believes I'm checking out other girls when it is not the case. I have tried to explain to her my situation but she dismisses my explanation. She also believes I don't care about her even though I do but I find it hard to express my feeling and she is the only person who I have truly loved. I admit that I get frustrated really easily and we have a lot of arguments which start from me getting frustrated. Even though I have tried to show I care for her and love her, she keeps telling me I need to show her, I don't know what to do. I don't want to lose her but I don't know what to do!
- I see the cycle coming! by: HappyMedium 13 years 1 month ago
If you ask me, I'd tell you that going out of town on vacation is our 2nd biggest obstacle. And we're about to go on an almost 1000 mile road trip! To say I'm nervous or have anxiety about this trip would most definitely be an understatement. So far, no matter how I've tried to make leaving town easier (for both of us), I still end up with the same amounts of frustration and resentment. When DH is around his family (especially his dad and brother) we cease to exist for the most part. He is no help with the kids, and it's near impossible to get his attention. This road trip he's decided we're driving out of our way so that we can stay at his brother's and avoid that nights hotel fare. His brother lives in an empty house.... no beds, couches, pillows, blankets... empty. ....*sigh*....I know how this trip is going to go. Just like the ones before have gone. He gets home BEAMING of a wonderful vacation, and I'm pissed off and tired and emotional. So, my question is.... how do I do this differently? If I hand him responsibilities before we go, we end up leaving HOURS after we planned because he waited until the kids were bucked into their car seats before he did any of it. He wont NOT make time to see his family. Nor do I necessarily expect him to, I just don't see why it always has to throw off the whole trip. I've tried asking him not to stay up till midnight or later when he knows we have to be on the road early. I've tried adjusting the schedule, I've tried different techniques for getting his attention..... all to no avail! Grrrr! It's so dang frustrating!!! This is supposed to be a yearly trip that's about spending time with my oldest son (lives with his dad), and I feel like I'm having to drag him away from his family members every time! We see his family numerous times throughout the year, I get 2 days of visitation a year. Ugh.... I'm really starting to dread this trip, and I don't want to feel like that.
- Newly (self-)diagnosed and frustrated beyond reason by: pwinn 13 years 1 month ago
A few months ago, my wife decided that I have ADHD. After some reading on the subject, I've come to agree. It seems to explain a lot of the last 20 years we've been together. I'm still having a hard time figuring out what's "me-me" and what's "ADHD-me," and hoping I can get things under control better than I have in the past.
In the meantime, my wife seems to have checked out. She told me this weekend that she's convinced she has no problems, that all the problems in our marriage are solely mine. She has decided (she says) that she's put up with my bad behavior for 20 years, and she's not putting up with it any more. So I feel that just as I finally begin understand what I might need to know to get better, she has kicked my legs out from underneath me, and joined with ADHD to kick me when I'm down.
I've tried to appeal to her on a pragmatic basis: "How do you see what you're doing leading anywhere but the divorce you claim you don't want?" I've tried to appeal to her on every basis I can imagine. I've tried to point out how odd it seems that after 20 years of not knowing any of this, 20 years of being able to legitimately think I was maybe just a jerk, NOW we find out I have real trouble controlling parts of my brain, and suddenly NOW she wants to blame me -- at the moment we find out I'm not *solely* to blame, she blames me solely.
I'm not trying to make her responsible for my problems; I'd be happy if she would just stop adding to them!
I first tried asking for her help, but lately I've just been asking if she can stop cruelly adding to my problems by pushing me (and I don't mean ADHD-style "you're pushing me because you asked twice in one day, I mean literally standing over me and repeating a mis-quote over and over until I acknowledge that yes, the words came out of my mouth (e.g. Me: "Yes, I said you immediately did X, but I shouldn't have included the word 'immediately,' because it was actually an hour later" Her: "Did you say immediately?" Me: "Yes. I take it back." Her: "But did you say immediately?" Me: "Yes, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it." Her: "Did you say it? Was it true?" Me: "Yes, I did. No, it wasn't." Her: "But you said it." and so on), and then saying that's the sort of crap she doesn't want to hear. Earlier today I tried to have a reasonable and calm discussion with her, but I made the mistake of implying (not stating directly) that she had made an error earlier in the day. She told me I was having an ADHD moment, but when I asked her how ADHD was affecting my behavior or statements at all, she first said "everything you say is affected," and then said, "Nothing, never mind. I was wrong," but in a way that implies she's just saying that to shut me up, and clearly believes I'm not in my right mind. I was feeling calm; I think she just thew the label at me to make me feel bad, and maybe distract me from any possible suggestion that she had made an error. (And oh yes, I didn't apologize for the error I'd made yesterday (I'd printed something incorrectly, and so needed to edit and reprint it), so after waiting about ten minutes for me to apologize, she pointed that out and suggested it was, again, what she expected after 20 years.)
I have explained to my wife for years that I've never felt like she was on my side. That whatever problems she might face in life, she was facing them with me, but whatever problems I was facing in life, I was facing those problems and also my wife. I reminded her of this again this weekend, and she first said she didn't care, that she was tired of being on my side (not that I can ever remember her really being so), and then after a bit of time, brought up a recent lunchtime conversation with friends where she had expected me to "take her side" and felt that I had instead taken the side of a friend (and the truth, incidentally, but I could definitely have been more circumspect when she asked me point-blank at lunch, apparently expecting me to lie for her). That made it her against me *and* our friend, and so apparently justified her joining with ADHD to kick me in the head.
She appears to have completely given up on me. I read the posts here and I think: Hey, we have no financial troubles, even though I manage the finances. I've pushed for us to have the discipline to be debt-free. She pushes the more serious parenting questions to me. I know I've made life hard for her, there's no question about that, but I've actually spent years and years coming up with coping mechanisms that actually work well (she would acknowledge I'm a dramatically better person than I used to be until the day she decided I had ADHD, after which point I'm just as bad as I ever was, clearly untrue).
Now that I have ADHD, see, there's no question but that when we remember things differently, the problem is me. On the rare occasions I've produced witness that supported my version of events, she changes the subject to another fault of mine rather than acknowledge her error. In her mind, her memory is perfect, and mine is always wrong. Always, without exception. Which is amazing, because I have an excellent memory; I'm a software developer well known for my good memory when managing projects and code.
Anyway, I'm frustrated because since she informed me that I have ADHD and that living with someone with ADHD is hell on earth, she's turned it into a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm trying harder than ever to walk on eggshells and behave perfectly, but every single mistake I make is met with a complete lack of grace, a huge stack of judgment, and she'll say at 10am that she needs at least the rest of the day, and maybe the next, of me staying away from her, because I dismissed something she said, or didn't apologize adequately for something I said. And that's it. Once she's decided to be offended, which is literally every possible time I give her even a fraction of an inch to be offended, she takes it, and holds onto it for days.
Oh yes, one more thing: we both work from home. It was an arrangement that worked beautifully for 2.5 years, until she decided I have ADHD. Now it's terrible, because she says we shouldn't spend any time together at all.
I'm working harder than ever, and I think we'd be fine -- better than fine -- if she would just choose to stop being my enemy. I know she's got 20 years of reasons to be upset, so I don't know what to do!
Man, that was more than I intended to write. Feeling raw.
- Great guy...not so great husband by: Brown mouse 13 years 1 month ago Hi to everyone...I am new to this site. A few months ago I began a blog on blogspot called waiting for the breakthrough (I don't think even 1 person has gone to it yet!) to help me deal with what I thought was my H's workaholism. We've been together 20 yrs and It's been up and down. H is a decent guy in that he is not abusive or mean. In fact, he can be too nice - saying yes when he means no, making promises he does not keep, etc. He promises the world and then forgets about it. He works in the entertainment business and people are always asking for an in somewhere or an intro to someone and he always says sure, no problem, but it doesn't happen. Anyway...the more I read about workaholic tendencies, the less H fit the mold. Then I found this site and things started to make sense. there is no chance H will ever go for evaluation, so I'm doing nothing more than armchair diagnosis here, but just to have an idea of what drives this man is a godsend. I wrote H an email last night and sent it off. I just laid out how I feel and how I don't want to live like this anymore. H travels a lot and has a schedule that rules his life. I stopped complaining yrs ago when his job meant missing birthdays, graduations, a surgery I needed, etc. I am not one to hide my feelings and have never made a secret of how his behaviors hurt me and our family, but he externalizes it all. In his mind he's mr. Wonderful & gets upset when I point out issues. He rolls over my conversation (when he's listening and not staring at his phone) and when I complain he says I don't know how to have a conversation; I just monologue and if he didn't interrupt and finish my sentences he would never get a word in. On the other hand, he interrupts everyone else too, so we must ALL suck at conversation! He has created a life for himself where he can work his work & contribute nothing else to the family. I literally have done it all since the beginning and am thankful the boys are old enough now to take over some of the work. I also work 25 hours a week from home. For yrs I carried a lot of guilt and self-loathing because of my feelings. I have kept a journal for 25 yrs and when I read over the older books I can see how H's behaviors have been there all along...attentive boyfriend, charming, says the right things...then marriage and children and the attention withers away, the partnership dries up...I had no idea that spending 20 yrs with a man would lead to feeling more alienated and lonely than being alone. I internalize things and read all the books and "worked on myself" thinking that if I became super wife and super mom he could not help but find me irresistible. Ha! Last week 'we' were watching football and i tried to make conversation but he was busy with his phone...facebook, email...right before halftime I said, "I'm talking but you can't hear me, can you? I'm talking but you can't hear me. I'm not in the room with you, am I?" no response. I went upstairs to watch the rest of the game alone. I asked him to walk our older dog because I had overdone it when taking out the younger one. He said yes at 8 a.m. And at 3 pm there I was walking the dog because H never got around to it. Multiply these examples by 1000 and you have a very unreliable husband. He half painted the kitchen 3 yrs ago and left all the paint and tools outside for 4 months until I cleaned it up. he does this with all his projects...he either does it half way and/or leaves all the tools and materials out until I clean them up. His half way yard work cost $1800 to fix. When he cooks for himself he leaves everything out and gets upset because I tell him to clean up his dishes. Well, I'm done ranting. I'm not angry anymore. I'm tired. I'm worn out from this. It's liberating to know that I'm not ultimately responsible for H's behavior, but it also makes me sad because the chances of him altering his behaviors is nil, and like I said, I don't like ramen. I do believe that my husband loves me in his own way. And the idea of living in a studio apartment without health ins, eating ramen does not appeal to me, but I would rather BE alone than FEEL dismissed and forgotten.
- Is it anger or something else? by: Pjloops 13 years 1 month ago So, not quite sure how to start this, or what I want to ask or say, but maybe it will just materialize out of my thoughts... I am the non, DH is clearly trying. There are so many things that are happening that you would think would help, but then something happens and I go two steps back. I have made it abundantly clear that there are certain behaviors that will set us back, and DH has made huge strides in this area. I do appreciate it, and have even gone so far to say if you do this behavior, I don't want to know about it and if you do DECIDE to do it, then don't come near me. Well, two times this week, he has said "full disclosure-I bla bla bla'd". So, wth? Adhd, poor choice, or just don't care? We are in "this" place and this is supposed to "help" me when DH KNOWS this will not only be extremely upsetting for me, but will also push us two steps back! I am in the worst place possible for me, this is NOT the forum to discuss my feelings, frustration, my loneliness. I keep seeing people post how upset they are that all the non's complain and whine and how terrible it is for add/adhd to see the negative. I totally get that and if it was me with the problem, i would feel ten times worse reading all of the hostile comments. We had a terrible day, we had a terrible family gathering, a funeral, and the whole time I was there, I couldn't stop being angry. DH and I arrived separate. I chose that because I wanted to drop off kids before and make sure everyone was safe. DH said he would save a seat for me, he then texted me where he was seated and when I arrived, late, there wasn't enough room for me unless I squished in the pew... There are so many other things that could have been different, he could have moved to a row behind, or i could have been there on time, or i could have squished in, but I decided to sit two rows back and ponder the situation... Why text me if there isn't room? I did say, don't worry, I will find a seat after it begins if I'm late. It was just as much my fault, in fact, it was my fault because I didn't want to go. It's all his family. It's always his family. I have NO family here. Yes, he needed to be with his family. He needed to sit with his family, so why was I feeling mad? If it was my family, would I have been so thoughtless? No. I would have definitly found another seat. And then the biggest ahha moment was "I was at a funeral!". Thinking all about me!! All about how miserable I am. How awful I feel here (in this state) without any support from anyone. Without anyone to talk to, without any people that understand. I tried to say something to my sister the other day and she of course "wanted to tell me what HIS perspective might have been". Totally flippin useless. The simple fact is I don't care. I want it to stop. For the 1000th time, i want to say something 1 time. Something important, like above, and for it to actually MEAN something. My whole thought process is about me, me, me.... And i know this is wrong? Sigh, i just added to the whine. We each have read the book, DH has visited this site, my email has been opened, So posting here is possibly NOT anonymous for me. I have looked into the MLC that DF talks about and I don't see anything that describes the lost, soul crushing sadness, angy, bitterness that comes in waves. Again, i put me here. I will get myself out, but since I am not working, have no money, have no family close by, it may take me longer to find a way that lifts me up and supports me the way just knowing family is close by would help me feel. It is all up to me and I resent it sometimes. I am fighting for my independence and not depending on DH to "make or brake" me. It's soley my decision on how I want to proceed, I just haven't figured out how to figure it out yet.
- new here.... by: sleepless in CA 13 years 1 month ago
I started coming here after I began a quick google search for an online support group for spouses with adhd. I have been reading for about 2 weeks now and finally decided to register. Sadly I have no drive in me left to type out all that I have been through in the past 13 years. Seriously it is written throughout this board! I can start with me and what I feel is my part in this whole mess. I believe I am the non~adhd'er even though I am the one in counseling and in the past taken medication. I have seen a psychiatrist who dx me with a "mood disorder". Im fine with that. I have a tendency to be very analytical, a perfectionist with a dash of OCD. This, I believe, developed during my time as a single parent where there was no room for error. Soon I began drinking. This I found was the only thing that would slow down that merry go round that exists in my head. I met my spouse at work. We were together for 6 years before we were married. 6 loooong years that I had alot of opportunities to end the relationship. I kick myself now for thinking that things would change. It was great in the beginning. It really tackled that thing called loneliness. Soon I began to notice how lazy he was and figured it was all in the way he was raised but since he was 7 years younger then myself, perhaps he could learn the "right way" through me, lol. Well that certainly didnt work and here I am 13 year later finally realizing I'm not totally to blame. I could sit here and paint a horrific picture of my husband but in all honesty, Im tired of even thinking about it. Some days I dont even want to be married anymore because I am so tired of all of the crap. He deliberately does everything opposite to what/how I say, so much so I have no desire to attempt communication at all, not to mention I feel I have to dumb-down. I dont bother asking him to do anything because its always half ass and the end result is me correcting whatever it is. No matter what I say or do, I am wrong, my opinions are worthless. He doesnt stand beside me in anything I do, more like against me. We have been married for 7 years and he refuses to acknowledge our wedding anniversary but will scream from the top of the roof the day he asked me to be his "girlfriend"which has a 6 day difference from the date we actually said "I do" His idea was to get married on that day, which happens to be my eldest sons birthday. I was no way going to give him that day to rip from my son. So now I pay for it (emotionally) every year. This year I didnt realize it was my anniversary until that actual day! and I was on facebook, saw the date and thought, ok this day looks familiar. Whats significant and I swear it dawned on me about 10 min later that it was in fact my anniversary :( He came home and since he has been making great strides to change his behavior, I hoped and hoped for him to say it. I could have said it but why would I? for the past 6 years when I did, I was reminded that it WASNT in fact my anniversary and that our anniversary was NEXT week. Notice I keep saying MY anniversary because seriously it isnt HIS.
We got married in Vegas. I had 2 weeks to plan a very important day. We had talked about getting married for a long time but thats as far as it went. One day he was discussing the length of our relationship with some women in the office and apparently they told him that they were surprised I was still with him 6 years without a "paper commitment" so thats when he decided that he wanted to get married. At the time I was a bit upset that after all our talks of marriage he decided NOW after talking with the girls at the office.....anyhow, I wanted this to be a day to remember. I searched for a dress. nothing to fancy something simple. He actually questioned why I needed a dress! im actually shaking just thinking about it. Long story short it was both of our first time in Vegas. We both had sets of family members there and quite often I couldnt find him. He much rather sit at tables and gamble with his brother. A quick senario is I would be standing there with him and turn to talk to my sister and *poof* like that hes gone without letting me know WHERE/WHICH way he was going. He was like a kid in a candy store. On our drive home he had already taken off his wedding ring. He never wore it until recently......
I have slowly lost myself in these last 13 years....things that I would never accept I find myself accepting, making excuses for everything. I feel like nothing consequential ever happens to him because Im constantly making sure it doesnt. He wont make a decision for the life of him. Wont go anywhere alone. Lies to no end and when he is caught says he was joking. He sees how far he can get with you and if you dont say anything he WILL NOT tell you he was joking. It almost like he does it to make you wrong or look stupid in his eyes so he is the one laughing at you for even believing him. (hard to explain) with that said, God forbid if YOU DONT TAKE HIM SERIOUS or kill the damn joke with a true response before he can execute it. Which leads me to my drinking. I blame no one for my drinking but myself. It sure did make life with him easier. Like I said while I was a singe mom I had no room for error, I pretty much play out a situation before it even happens by thought ( i mean doesnt everyone?) and thats pretty much how it would go, most of the time I was right, simple common sense, and sometimes I wasnt right but would learn from the situation. He doesnt think that way. All of my anger and frustration would eventually come out when I drank. Not really good but damn it felt good to "stand up for myself" and know Im no fool. My marriage was not good at all. and in 2006 we were on the brink of divorce. I decided maybe it was my drinking and decided to quit. I have been 5 years sober now, Im at the end of my rope with him. Im surprised I lasted this long and am just looking for a way out. I cant continue to walk on egg shells. Cant continue to bite my tongue. I have been so short with him lately and Im not a mean person. Very passive actually. Try to never get myself in situations where I may have to be mean. Like most here I have tried to compromise everything under the sun to find a mutual happy medium. I feel like im being unfair to him with my thoughts of wanting to leave or divorce. I dont believe I could ever tell him that I suspect he has add/adhd. nothing is ever his fault and he will break stuff to prove it. Funny how he's perfect and nothing is his fault YET this is what he tells me that I think I am! He says, "you think your perfect and that the world revolves around you and everything is about you but its not." If I mention anything about the way I feel he is sure to say, why is it always about you? Thats why I dont tell him anything anymore.... gosh I dont even think I exist anymore :(
Just want to mention the hell I have been through for the past 6 weeks with him. I just gave birth to *our* 3rd child, recovering from my 3rd c-section, he is verbally rushing the nurse to get my discharge papers together. I seriously wanted to stay longer. I have a 3 and a 2 year old at home plus 2 teens. gimme a break. so we leave, come home, he invites everyone and his dog over. His vacation starts the day I deliver. Supposedly he takes time off to help me recover from the section. It seriously is harder when he is here. He swears all these things he is gonna get done around the house. Hires my 19 year old son to paint our 2 story, 3k ft house ALONE with 10 gallons of paint and a roller. No joke.....The 2nd day my son was here I saw all the paint on my patio and windows i wanted to die. I began painting myself. YUP 2 weeks post partum im on a ladder painting my house. Then he finally began painting too when his uncle said lets help her. He was staying busy because his uncle was here and that kept him on task. I seriously thought I fell in love with him again. The honeymoon ended when his uncle was done and my husband began playing black ops all day. watching futureama and married with children on netflix. So its the entire series for both sit coms. While im breastfeeding, cooking, cleaning, and caring for 2 toddlers, getting kids registered, school shopping making dr appts ATTENDING dr appts (you gett he picture) I began hearing pigeon coo's throughout my house, first he states he doesnt hear what im hearing (his lie) so then i wait until the kids get home from school and ask them in front of him, of course they hear it too. So apparently while painting the 2nd story he removed the grid to prevent the birds from flying in there and making a coup and never put it back up. n i c e. I reminded him that he need to put the grid back up there that the birds crapping up there bringing their food ect was not healthy for the babies. 1 week goes by, 2nd week, i give him another reminder.....3rd week i still hear them and i just want to cry. I dont remind him often to do things. I shouldnt have to. my teens were saying oooh the sound of the birds is scarey, shh you can hear them ect....and he still didnt budge....so i "ignore" it too and soon thought wait i havent heard the birds????so i asked him did you fix it? he said no i havent got to it yet. now the analytical me says "yes he did, i dont hear them anymore, he's trying to make me wrong again" and i still have no idea whether or not it is fixed but i dont hear any birds.....
Anyone have any pointers as to how I can bring it to his attention to get him evaluated for add/adhd? I dont even know what I want. not sure I love him enough, anymore, to continue with the misery. I think I have been detaching myself from him for the past 5 years and for that I feel sorry for him. Thats really whats keeping me here.
edited to add: I have seen the same therapist for the past 5 years in which I of course have described my husbands behavior and scenarios re my husband. She said to me she cant dx him but from what I say he sounds really adhd with narcissist tendencies. I kinda knew the narcissist but the adhd was new to me. I find his behavior in alot of these posts here in the message board....so he is undiagnosed.
- ADHD or abuse? So bad spent the weekend in jail by: Waiting4sunshine 13 years 1 month ago
I've been coming to this site for some time trying to find help in coping with and understanding my partner, who was diagnosed with ADD as a child and whom I'm certain has a pretty bad case of ADHD. Yet she thinks it's a bunch of phooey so won't get help. Our relationship is a lot like others I read on here. I can deal with the forgetting things, ignoring me, having to do most household chores myself but what I can't deal with is the double standards, always being blamed for everything and the anger issues she has, especially when she blows up at me over nothing, and then is verbally abusive to me and tells me basically it's my fault she gets so mad and I'm just playing a victim when I tell her I'm not going to take it. I fell deeply in love with her 2 years ago, and I can't seem to let it go even though in my head I feel like this relationship is often more harmful for me than it is good. I could go on and on with things that has happened, but I'll just mention the general things and most recent since I don't have much time. She gets angry a lot over small things and will start calling me a bitch and say other mean things to me. If we've been arguing and she can't sleep, she will blame me and say I'm keeping her from sleeping when that's not the case, usually I'm trying to go to another room or just lie there and not talk so we can both sleep. She's held me down and left bruises, scratches, pushed me off the bed twice (it's a high bed) and more than I can count has taken the covers off of me and shaken me or slammed her hands down on the bed over and over. If she can't sleep why should I be able to, because it's my fault she says. She has a lot of sleeping problems and really bad anxiety. She's yanked a necklace off of me and once she grabbed my face and pushed it to shut me up. I always forgive her and make excuses that she can't control her emotions because of add, had a bad childhood, has anxiety, can't handle stress, etc. I always think it will get better and I can help her. But lately I've been at the end of my rope too, and I have a lot of resentment, anger and frustration that has built up.
The past few weeks we have been arguing constantly and have had few blowups, where I just felt like it's too much and we need to end the relationship before it goes too far. I asked her if we could talk and try to come up with some ways to make it better, to make some lists and think about things and try to work on it. But we were back to arguing and that conversation never happened, because we spent the weekend in jail. Yes, jail. I've never so much as had detention in school in my life and now this relationship has gotten me arrested. We went to brunch and she didn't like some policy they had on a discount we were using and that they had charged her .50 for tomatoes. We split the check and I she left a $3 tip so I left $5, which would have made it 20% of the bill. So she gets made and changes her tip to less. She said they don't deserve full tip because she wasn't pleased. I said the waitress was nice and gave good service, and she had nothing to do with what she was angry about, so she deserved a full tip. We kept arguing about it in the car, though I didn't feel it was arguing I was just explaining to her why I felt like I did. All of a sudden she runs the car off the side of the road, comes to an abrupt halt and starts yelling at me to stop, calling me a bitch, the usual litany of insults. She has driven like a maniac before when she's angry and has scared me. I put my hand to kinda grab her and calm her down, because I wanted her to stop and I wanted to take the keys until she calmed down. Well she took that for me hitting her and called the cops. I just stepped out of the car and waited, thinking she would calm down and either leave before police came or not go as far to have me arrested. Officer arrives and she goes to speak to her first, then shuts the car door and asks me what happened. I told her that I didn't hit her, I did make a movement to grab her because she was scaring me, but in no way was I trying to hit or hurt her. The officer asked if she had ever hit me and I said no. I said she has just gotten a bit worked up, she was in an abusive relationship before and I think she was having flashbacks or something and freaking out. (She was in an abusive relationship before, but it went both ways. And she was the one who started the abuse). The officer asked if I could find a friend to take me home, and said in these cases since there were no marks or evidence I hit her they would take us both in. So she said find a ride and just go home separately. But when she went to speak to my gf again, whatever my gf said to her made the cop extrememly mad. So the cop told her to get out of the car adn she refused. So she said she had to arrest her. And then she said she had to arrest me too, since this was considered domestic violence and she said I hit her. I tried to reason with cop, but she said 'I don't know who your gf thinks she is, but she can't talk to the police like that and she needs to be taught a lesson."
My gf refused to get out of the car so she called for backup. They arrested her and then they put cuffs on me and took me to a different police car. Then the 'paddywagon" came and they tried to put her in there, but she started having a panic attack. The cop walked over to the car I was in to speak to the officer and I told them she had severe anxiety and probably couldn't handle it. So they put me in there and took her to the hospital. They tooke me to a detention center, thankfully I never went behind bars, but it was jail nonetheless and I was stuck in there for over 24 hours. They brought her in after they released her from the hospital, about 2 a.m. in the moring. She came to me and started apologizing and crying. yet still she seems to be mainly concerned about how it affected her. She hasn't been to work for a few days and thankfully went to a counselor and doctor for anxiety medicine and is trying to find a psychiatrist. But she won't say it's her fault and I don't know if she really sees that she needs help. I think she just think she needs help because of the traumatic experience being locked up caused her.
I feel like this should be a big huge red flag telling me to get out now. Of course, she is trying to be loving now and says she doesnt want me to leave. I am putting off talking about it until we get over this. I couldnt take time off work so Im still trying to process it all and cant deal with trying to move again (we just moved into a house that she bought). I'm at such a loss. Is this ADHD and can she be helped? Or is this abuse? Should I wait and see if she goes through with counseling and maybe meds and will go to couples counseling? I love her and I'd love more than anything for us to have a great, loving relationship. But I just don't know if we can ever recover from this, if she will ever change. I can't keep living like this. Any advice or insights would be much appreciated.
- So New to All This and Still Don't Know Where I'm Going by: sabby28 13 years 1 month ago
My husband was diagnosed with ADHD about a month and a half ago. I had performed some research on ADHD and realized how it was always there from the day we got married, had our child and present day. He is taking Adderall and it took awhile for him to get the right amount but it seems it has stabilized him.
I think I'm on the brink of depression because I can't seem to figure out the right time to approach him about anything. Everything he tells me I do wrong, he is actually doing. He has been out drinking with his co-worker which reports to him. He has no other friends. I went through being the whole focus of his life, he was always so expressive vocally and physically. We had our child about 6 years ago the same time he started to work for this company. He has been working here all this time. He works very hard. Lately, he has been drinking almost everyday.
We had an episode about two weeks ago where he thought he was going to get a promotion and was convinced he was not. He called me completely irrate, telling me all he wanted to do was get drunk and forget who he was and that his brain was so messed up. He didn't want to be around me, his family or anyone else he knew. He told me he had not taken his medication at all that day. He was just not making any sense when he was talking. He yelled at me and blamed me for something (I can't remember what it was) then got off the phone abruptly. He called me about 5 minutes later to tell me he was sorry. He ended up asking for space that night, which I gave him but instead of coming home, he ended up at his co-workers house until the next day. Apparently, he had misinterpreted my text asking him if he wanted me to wait up for him or to give him space. He said give him space. He did text me to tell me that he was taking a cab and crashing at the co-worker's house.
He came home that morning and I had a talk with him asking him if he wanted this marriage. He looked me in the eye and told me that he did. He told me he loved me. I told him he had to make a decision about what he wanted because what he did two times now would not happen again. I would not go through it again. I then told him that we need to work on our relationship. Before all this we have been doing date night every Friday and have missed the last two. He has told me more than once that he doesn't want to go out with this person. He wants him and I to hang out and go and do things.
About two months before that, he did the same thing but never called me that night. He came home apologizing and was very sorry. Said it would never happen again. He got so drunk he couldn't think straight. Told me he was dumb and it hurt our relationship and he should not go out drinking like that. He crashed at his co-worker's house again that night.
We had come close to him wanting a divorce in Feb because of all sudden he didn't want to do this anymore . He had told me that he still loved me (he had stopped telling me that everyday) but the nagging and controlling was impossible to live with. Anyway...that was really rough but we got through that. This is when I had begged him to get some help that something was not right. He waited until this time to get the help. It just seems that he uses the drinking as a way to unwind. It is always the person he is with, his coworker. He tells me he is a grown man and that it should not matter that he has a couple of cocktails after work. He waits until he sobers up before he drives home.
Anyway, I have noticed that he has been very physical with me. Holding me, touching me, always telling me he loves me. This has happened gradually as he has taken his medicine. He also has a side job that he told me he was trying to get out of, but it seems to be that every couple of weeks, he has something to do with. We are not having any sex in about a month because he is finding he has ERD because of the Adderall, but this morning we got closer to it.
My son is sick today and I asked him to come home on time to give me a break. He asked me to get my mother to watch him. I told him she should not be available when it is us as parents that should take care of our sick child. He told me he couldn't because he was doing the side job tonight. I didn't know anything about it until he mentioned it. I can't help it but don't know what to think other than it is an excuse for him to go out and drink? He has been answering my texts. Told me he was having a bad day (he always is) and called me when he was at lunch getting something to eat. He was very short with me. He called me about two hours later after I sent him a text telling him I was falling apart and really stressed and burned out to check to see how I was doing. His tone was so different. I could tell he had taken his medicine.
He doesn't spend money excessively, he does charge everything on the credit card. I become paranoid because I think he is going out to drink again like he did once this week. I do all the finances, take care of my son's appts, make sure food is on the table and laundry is done. I also work full time.
My mother-in-law has taken care of getting my son from school the past two weeks because I can not get off early enough. My husband can't either because he never gets off on time lately. He has gotten word last week that he will now be promoted. He had apparently misunderstood what they were doing. He keeps telling me he is scared he won't get it but has a new found lease on life and has been very aggressive in getting all his work done. I forgot to mention there are only two of them in the department. He had someone fired which he later regretted the mistake, because he realized the workload is now uncontrollable to the point where he is ALWAYS working. So he has been home late every day this week for one reason or another. He was late on Monday because we had a family dinner and he had a last minute meeting. He was late on Tuesday and I asked him if he had gone out to drink and he admitted it to me on the phone. I asked him with who and he told me with his co-worker. Wednesday, him and his brother took his dad out for a birthday dinner. Tonight, he can't come home on time because he has this side job. Doesn't know what time he will come home. He gets angry when I ask him that every time and I understand a ADHD person has issues with time, so maybe that is why? He has also been chronically late every morning and it is getting worse. He used to be early to work every day except for the past three weeks. He tells me he is exhausted and when he takes the Adderall all he wants to do is sleep but he can't seem to shutdown.
He comes home everyday and immediately gets on his computer and starts working. It's like he never stops working. His time management at work is getting worse, because he doesn't even have time to take a full lunch anymore, yet alone call me. That has almost diminished. He now starting not to finish the tasks he was to perform the night before. Yesterday he was supposed to do two things and could only get one done because the other one took too much time.
I try to talk to him about reading the ADHD Affects on Marriage book and tell him about his son. He has such empathy for him but has averaged, especially, this week, seeing him a total of a couple of hours.
Just when I think he is not hearing me telling him he has to try to engage and pay attention to me and his son, he does it! So I don't know if it is the medicine or the guilt of what he is really doing.
I trust him but because he holds things from me should I be worried? I think our physical touching, hugging, holding hands, kissing and caressing each other is getting so much better! But right now I'm looking at the clock knowing I won't hear from him until he is on his way home and it bothers me.
I know he has been talking to his psychiatrist because the night he went out drinking this week I asked him if he was having an affair. He got so upset with me and told me not to start doing that again. He said that I was insecure and just kept yelling. He got a cigarette. Instead of letting it go, I couldn't. I lashed out at him about his drinking and that he needs to be straight up with me because I couldn't stand doing this anymore. He then told me to go away and leave him alone. I then went to the room crying and he finished his cigarette, turned on the light and asked me to look at him in the eye. He told me that he was not sleeping with anyone and never has and that I need to understand that once and for all. He said that it drives men away when their spouse keeps saying that. Then he told me that I need to hear his queue when he asks me to leave before he blows up and that his psychiatrist told him to say, please leave me alone and he asked me to listen to that queue. That made me feel good because it to me it looks like he is talking to his psychiatrist about us.
Am I being paranoid? If I go out with a friend, I tell him ahead of time...I also want to add, I have lost a lot of weight and am trying to get myself straight, but I can't help thinking the way I do because the attention is not there. He notices me and tells me I'm beautiful so again the communication is there, but not consistently. I know our marriage hasn't been perfect and I am trying to let go of the anger and move forward but can't help but think something else is catching his attention and it might not be good.
Any advice you can provide would be helpful!
UPDATE: He just called me again to tell me that he was on his way to the side job! He wanted to check on both of us to see how we were doing. I don't know what to think anymore.
- How to be autonomous and loving at the same time by: pward 13 years 1 month ago
I do not know how to focus on what makes me happy, and living my life, and maintaining loving behavior. Truly, I have been at this a very, very long time. After 2 more 'forgettings' about spending time and attention on our non-existent sex life, I chose not to bring it up, but feel frozen inside. My husband acts as if everything is the same, NEVER addresses any negative issues, and continues on being affection with his loving words. But, has even stepped it up a notch, which lets me know that he is aware that all is not well. He probably doesn't remember what the issue is and will certainly not ask 'what's up'. I told him that since we seem to be roommates instead of husband and wife, I will stop doing certain things. I don't make his coffee in the morning, I have stopped making his lunch. What I find very difficult is not wanting to punch him when he kisses me when he gets home from work or when he gets up in the morning. I find it very difficult to sleep in the same bed with him. Roommates don't sleep together! And yet, here I am, doing things that I find ridiculous because I don't know how to stop them. I don't know how to say, "don't kiss and pretend everything is okay unless you are willing to talk and to DO something about it". I don't know how to say, "I'm moving out of the bedroom until you follow the suggestions given by the 100s of therapists we have seen". I don't know how to stay or how to leave! I am so sick of myself staying and not demanding better for myself. What would I tell a friend? Why can't I be my own best friend? Making small talk, shallow, inconsequential banter is making me sick. I need help with being able to be affectionate and autonomous at the same time. I want to learn how to live for me and not worry about this sexless marriage. What would I be doing if he weren't here. I would be working, talking with friends, visiting with friends, watching TV, going to the movies, all the same stuff that I do now. So, I don't know how to change my thinking and I need help.