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- Relationship Destruction by: Daisy 16 years 11 months ago I've been married to my husband for a year and a half. I'm 22- he's 23, no kids (ever). We've been together over two years. I have ADHD and Bipolar- but only deal with hypermanic symptoms that mirror ADHD. I take Vyvanse along with a mood stablilizer and an anti-psychotic. No alcohol or drug use, I've been completely stable for almost a year. Before my husband, I could only stand to be in a reltionship for two or three months before I had to abandon ship because I would literally wake up and be completely disgusted with my partner. And even if I was in a relationship I always cheated. And the relationship with my husband was no different. In September I became aware of his infedelities, and behaviors that made me physically ill. We split for two months but reunited because I honestly thought I could see through his flaws and that he would change. There was a short period I had that flutter of love inside, but it was very short lived. The past month I have been sleeping in the living room. I am on my laptop 12-16 hours a day and rarely talk to him. I can not see myself with him sexually ever again. I want out. Since mid-December I have just created this complete dislike for him. He want's couples counseling and thinks I need new medication. I am finally breaking out of a social shell and getting out of the house. So, is this a common pattern of not being able to commit? Am I always going to grow completely hateful of the relationship I have with my significant other? Should I bother with couples counseling based on my past patterns- or is it worth a shot? I honestly don't want to save this, I have a level of resentment and sourness that makes my mother laugh and ask "Why are you still married?"
- Newly weds- both ADD in very different ways by: frecks0328 16 years 11 months ago My husband and I have been married for a little over a month now, and although it is such a short amount of time we are already facing the issue that we are very different people. We both have been diagnosed with ADD. My husband was diagnosed about 2 years ago and I was diagnosed almost 1 year ago. Some might think that this similarity makes our marriage easy; however, sometimes we are so different that I begin to wonder if I have ADD at all! My ADD seems to be coupled with a more anxious obsessive compulsive nature where my husband is forgetful and lacks intuition. We are running into issues with space around the house and me having to repeat myself every five minutes and then I get frustrated and upset because I am picking up after him and repeating myself over and over again which makes me anxious and in turn angry. It’s horrible! I get to the point with him where I can not even control the words coming out of my mouth. It hurts me so bad. I know it hurts him too. I love my husband very much, but we are young and this is starting to feel like overwhelming. He loves to go,go,go. If it were up to him we would be doing something every night. I have these same urges but I know that I have fibromyalgia and need to have 8 hours of sleep and keep my space organized or I will start to spiral back into my unorganized lifestyle. It seems as though I have developed a better grasp of organization, memory, and reading social cues where my husband can control his emotions better. But of course, when we fight we both get very defensive and can argue for hours. I feel like I have some very valid points but I am too forgiving so although my intention is to help our relationship I always give in. My husband uses his ADD as a crutch to constantly justify when he does something wrong. He says he is not using it as a crutch but rather just explaining why he does what he does, but I can’t understand why if I can overcome my socially unacceptable and inconsiderate actions why he can’t too! I know this is a lot of rambling but I have only been married a month and I already feel like we are failing at this marriage! I have already threatened with leaving him and he didn’t even take me seriously (which of course upset me more!) There are a lot of posts on here about a non ADHD spouse and a ADHD spouse finding common ground, but what if we are both ADD in very different ways? Are we doomed?
- connecting by: tiddletaddle 16 years 11 months ago Hi all, I shared this with another partner of an ADD person and she suggested I shared it here. It's about the ADDer not actually connecting with you when you think they are, and the confusion this can bring. My partner is undiagnosed ADD but neither of us realised this until a few months into the relationship. In the early days I thought my darling hyperfocussing man was with me all the way - but soon things became a little strange and it became obvious to me that he just wasn't always there with me when I thought he was! So we talked about it and because he wants this relationship to work as much as I do we together decided on a strategy, which I have applied a few times, and here it is; When he is disconnected from me in a close situation I look him in the eyes, put my hand over his heart, and say to him 'I am touching your heart'. He then puts his hand on my heart and looks at me too. It gives him a physical and emotional jolt and brings him into the present moment.... for a moment at least :-) Do you have some strategies that you have tried? Care to share? Good making your acquaintance :-) Tids
- Where do we go from here? (LONG) by: newfdog 16 years 11 months ago I was diagnosed with ADD almost a year ago after being married for 26 years. My wife is very quiet, does not like confrontation and I am of course type A, like to have fun , pretty much like everyone else with ADD. I will try to not jump all over the place, but you know how us with ADD are ;-) When I met my wife 30 years ago, she was the first woman whom I felt really liked me for who and what I am. Needless to say I fell madly in love, what I did not know is her fiancé and her had taken a break for reasons, I still don't know. Anyway, at some time they did get engaged and I was no longer in the picture, I was devastated, needless to say, at the time I did not know I was hyper-focused. I dated other women off and on, but even with others I could never get her out of my mind completely. Needless to say, your new flame does not want to hear about past girl friends, this I learned. Anyway, I did hear from a mutual friend that she was separated from her husband of 2 years as he was having an affair with an older woman whom was friend of theirs. I did meet her one night and asked if she would like to go out to dinner, she said yes and I was thrilled. Even though it had been almost 3 years since we dated, it was like yesterday, and we picked up where we left off. We married a year later to the date on Halloween and had a fabulous week cruise for honeymoon. I could not have been any happier. I was a manufacturers rep and traveled a extensively, so when I came home we were always excited to see each other and our marriage was great and loved each other very much. About 4 years later I tired of being out of town so I changed jobs and really enjoyed being home all the time. Our marriage was still good, we purchased an older house and spend many hours working around the house and in the yard. This is one of the few interests we have in common. We have a beautiful daughter who was born after 8 years of marriage and I could not have been happier. I was transfered to another part of the country when our daughter was a year old. I was very busy with work and traveled quite a bit so my wife spent most of the time raising our daughter. Fast forward another 5 years, I quit my job and we started a company, (oh yeah, forgot to say, we have worked together at the same place for the last 17 years) that was fairly successful. I was hyper-focused at first and once things became routine, I would get bored and onto something else. I went from high speed driving school (have logged many hours at Charlotte Motor Speedway (Lowe's) to quit that and spent 2 years restoring a car and going to car shows, then it was on to golf, then it was onto the present owning, showing and working dogs. Needless to say, none of these activities the wife enjoys. So here we were two years ago, wife doing her thing, I am doing mine and she would never seem to want to do anything with me. I would go out of town to dog shows having fun, while she stayed home taking care of our daughter. During this time our sex life went to almost nothing. That was a problem, while I never had an affair I have always had a strong sex drive. Arguments became more frequent, and at one time in anger I asked if she wanted a divorce, she stated "we could not afford a divorce". Needless to say I took that the wrong way in the sense as I thought she wanted one, but we could not afford it, and to tell the truth at the time she was probably correct, as I was always spending money. While at a dog show I met a younger woman who had many of the same interests I had, and we became friends. She was separated from her husband (since divorced) who also did not care for the things she liked. As time went on we began to talk more and more, not about us, but about our interests. Then we both began to start to confide in each other and before you knew it, on occasion my mind would wander and I would imagine a future with this person. We would talk to each other on the phone about once a week. One night my wife read me the riot act and spoke her mind about many of the things I had done in the past. Some of them were, my drinking early in our marriage, my hobbies she said were in excess, and ignoring her and my daughter, spending money and most of all being angry much of the time. But, she said she would, and wanted to try and work on our our marriage. . We were doing much better and we began to get along better, do more things together. We went on a trip for a week together and had a good time. About two months later I had to go into the hospital for stints and that part was non eventful and made a full recovery. While I was in the hospital they did see some nodules on my lungs and said not to worry, but have another CT scan in three months, YEAH RIGHT, don't worry. Of course you think the worst, oh God I have cancer and I don't have long left. Short story, after six months and two CT scans the nodules are gone and everything appears to be OK, however the thoughts were there and I had gone into a deep depression. During this time I continued to speak to my new female friend and needless to say my wife was less than pleased. I was accused of having an affair which was not true. But in any event, in an effort to try to save the marriage I was no longer in contact with this person I went to my family doctor who prescribed Zoloft and recommended I go to a counselor, which I did and still am.My wife and I also had gone to marriage counseling. My depression had not improved and my counselor recommended a psychiatrist whom I went to and he switched me to Welbutrin. On my second follow up visit he diagnosed me with ADD and suggested I read the book "Driven to Distraction" and prescribed Straterra for the ADD. Upon reading the book it appears many of the things I have done in my life, can be attributed to and are symptoms of ADD. Here we are now, almost a year of my diagnosis of ADD, our marriage is better, and we don't argue as much, in fact we can talk about anything and we have no secrets and while my wife was very bitter for the past years of my anger and ADD stunts, she understands why. Our sex life is great again and we enjoy having dinner out once a week. I have completed many projects around the house, in fact, remodeled the kitchen and a bathroom. The problem now is, after my wife vented her anger about how I acted all these years and it was before we knew I had ADD, I was angry and hurt deeply. Who wants to be told your a looser, lazy, spend too much money, and of course ignored her and my daughter whom she pointed out she raised by herself? Somewhere after that altercation and considering we were more or less roommates, I became hyper focused on the other person and while I have not spoken to her in almost a year, still have a problem getting her out of my mind. My wife picks up on this and we are not going anywhere without this issue being resolved. My wife has said, if I want to be with this other person, go for it. She wants me happy and I too want to be happy, but also want her happy. That said, I'm not even sure this person would want to be with me, and of course I know better now, than to make a impulsive decision. Thanks so much for the great forum to post and seek advice.
- Public Awareness- Follow up on Melissa Coment by: stb616 16 years 11 months ago An Easy Trap new On January 23rd, 2008 MelissaOrlov said: It is not only non-ADD spouses, but also some doctors and some people with ADD who would pathologize ADD and make people believe they have something wrong. They have something...yes...just like people who can't see without glasses have something. It's hardwired into their brains. BUT, that something can be wonderful and fabulous, too. The issue is - how do you find the equivalent to glasses for your ADD relationship? The thing that makes it easier both for you and for those around you? Unfortunately, the state of learning about ADD means that there is still a stigma attached to ADD for many people. If you went around saying you thought your husband was abnormal because he needed glasses everyone would laugh at you. Not so with ADD - it's got that stigma... On the other hand, if you went around, needing glasses and running over people in your car all the time because you couldn't see them, but refused the "treatment" of glasses, people would be angry with you - just as spouses are often angry about ADD that is ignored or denied. The stigma has terrible consequences...that are so unnecessary! I look forward to the time when people see ADD for what it is - something that is a part of you, the negative symptoms of which can (but don't always) have terrible impact on others (and you) if not dealt with. And, here's the good news - there's a real upside to having ADD once you figure it out (unlike glasses...which simply bring your eyesight up to where everyone else is). Melissa Orlov
- Funny by: stb616 16 years 11 months ago No posts here? I guess people only like to talk about problems. I think thats human nature, not ADHD. Joy, in a marriage with ADHD. I assure there's rarely a dull monment. Both of us are. We get some good laughs at the others expense and one of my favorite hobbies is making fun of myself and all wonderful things I get myself into- some of which I think may only take place in the life of a person with ADHD. I'm sure there's more, but I've typed more on this forum in last 2 days than I did in all of 2007. So I'm going to shut off the computer and give my fingers a break.
- People who try to fix or manage people with ADHD by: stb616 16 years 11 months ago I'd like to start a conversation with input from people with ADHD and even from Dr. Hallowell about the impact it has on a person with ADHD when people who may or may not understand it are trying to manage or fix the person and what some are calling shortfalls. In several of the posts here it seems like there's a subtle but real attitude like there is something wrong with the "other person" who has ADHD and that they are trying to manage them. This strikes me as sort of? I don't know it just strikes me. Seems sort of like they are talking down to them or treating them as they would a small child who's not behaving properly. Very much looking forward to the replys on this one.
- How do you find the right therapist? by: stb616 16 years 11 months ago
I just answered part of my question in a reply to another post- by groups like CHADD and recomendations of others. I'm asking more along the lines of credentials, experience, and style. Well, I guess too- other sources for recomendations. Is there any sort criterea or resource to find someone who actually specializes in the topic? I have a hang up about the medical field becasue I've run into people and offices who are clearly more intersted in their business interests than what I wanted or needed. I've changed insurance carriers several times over the past few years and have had to get any treatment approved or reapproved by my primary care doctor. This group has argued about and actually refused to approve my chiropractor and phsycologist becasue they did work for that medical group. I guess to them it didn't matter that I had been seeing these people for years and they were also approved with the new insurance company. So yeah, I'm certainly guilty of getting caught up in the past on that one. It makes me mad even thinking about all that. I'm a little sensative about working with new professionals but now I'm forced to find at least one new person. For my med reviews, she just moved out of state and the gentalman I was seeing counseling isn't covered by our current insurance and I can't afford to private pay. So as far as style and experience with the topic of ADD (specically adult diagnosed in my case) is there any suggestions about what questions I can ask of the person durring an initial meeting? I really valued the other professionals and if I have to find someone new, I would really like to be able to first find out about them and we'll talk about me. Thanks in advance for any thoughts or ideas
- Lack of progress. Are we too much alike? by: stb616 16 years 11 months ago First a little background. Within the past few years, both my wife and I have been diagnosed as having ADD. I’ve been more active in seeking help with “fixing” some of related aspects of my life than she has with education, medication, and counseling. Lately I’ve felt like I’ve been bogged down on making any progress and have slipped back into some of my old habits like clutter, too many projects started at once (and not finishing them), dropping the ball or being forgetful on important things, and I’m back to a general “fly by the seat of my pants” approach to things. I really would like to change my life in regards to “clutter.” I really feel like if I could manage this that my level of mental clutter would at least partially fall into place. I’ve lovingly nicknamed my wife the squirrel of the house. While my “file-by-pile” approach and constant searching for things is bad enough, my wife shares this and to add to it seems to constantly and randomly move things and doesn’t have the foggiest idea where or even if she did. Sometimes its small things like a kitchen utensil and other times its very important things like a bill, something for my work, or one of the worst was an IRS notice I found on accident by the grace of God 2 days before the deadline to respond (and months after it came). All is well that ends well but……AHHHHH!!! Clutter being one of the most bothersome and time wasting issues to me has made me very frustrated with myself and my wife. “If I could only…….” haunts my thoughts. I have this image of how I’d like things to be but I/we can’t get there. It seems like any progress is so short lived and relatively so small to the big picture that frustration sets in almost immediately. I know my wife tries and has made some great steps, but its very frustrating for me being my own biggest critic to stay positive with her when I feel like she’s seemingly not nearly as interested in doing anything about it. Trust me I’m pretty much a whirlwind of chaos. I love my wife dearly. She’s my best friend and a very blessed soul- but when it comes to the more day to day aspects of our life together and trying to work on some systems or habits to improve our daily life I find myself with the attitude of with friends like this, who need enemies. So are we too much alike? How can I work on me when my wife fuels the problems? How can two people balance individual progresses and short comings when by whatever means they constantly undermine each other and feed off each other’s habits? I'm very interested in hearing what others have to say about this topic and any ideas for dealing with me and my issues, getting my wife to try and work it, and how circle of chaos can be minimized.
- Explaining Another Incident by: engineer9 16 years 11 months ago My wife and I are both ADHD and both recently diagnosed, which has helped explain a lot. Through prayer, stubbornness and Omega 3 we are just beginning to figure things out. Yet if ADHD in marriage were a sport, I'd certainly be playing defense. I am laughing about it now, but I had to take the day off work to write the following to my wife explaining another incident. I'm sorry it is a bit lengthy, but I thought I'd just post in entirety what I've written her. I guess doing this is part venting, part searching for sympathy and partly because I am always feeling so guilty I need to explain everything. That and I'm never sure why I do anything. So here goes: My dear wife: I'm sorry. Please forgive my behavior, this morning and last night. Just to let you know though, last night was not about you. We arrived early and you found us great seats. Then it became crowded, the lecture had started. I was engaged with his opening comments; I was excited for what was to come. I was comfortable where I was sitting. I had two jackets arranged on my chair, I had my empty coffee cup stashed underneath, and I had an aisle seat. All this was good. Then latecomers started banging new seating up to the front, and extending the aisles. I was suddenly missing the lecture. I was being asked to move to the right, move to the left. At that point a switch flipped in my head. I can't explain it. I just can't explain it. Sometimes I feel like I'm about to burst. Chaos and crowds, too much happening at once. I feel like I'm about to implode. I feel trapped. I feel pressured. It's dark and the walls are closing in around me. I want to hear the lecture, I don't want to miss anything but it is too much. A breaker in my brain flips off, the circuit closes and I have to leave. There is no time to explain. I hardly understand myself. I am not angry but it likely seems that way to those about. Yet I am angry. I have to leave. I am angry because it is the only other emotion I know besides joy. I'm not joyful so I must be angry. It is one or the other. My life always seems to be all or nothing. Anger is bad. What if I explode rather than implode. I must leave. I can't say anything to you. I can't even explain it to myself. I just don't understand. The switch has been flipped. Where I was once okay and comfortable and engaged I am now the opposite. The thing, that thing has happened inside my brain again. I've forgotten that I want to hear the lecture. I've forgotten that I am with my wife. I've forgotten that there is love and support nearby. My thinking has changed. I just can't explain it. I leave. Even now it seems ridiculous. It seems childish. I am ashamed. My brain begins to drum out that old rhythm ... loser, loser, loser ... asshole, asshole, asshole. I try to force it to stop. I try to think about other things. I don't want to see anyone. I don't want to see my reflection in the bathroom mirror. The little train in my head keeps running, I hear its engine ... whatajerk, whatajerk, whatajerk. I come out to breakfast. I have to act normal. I have to act sane. "Good morning". No reply. Perhaps a grunt. I know you are annoyed. I know you are upset. What to do. What to do. What to do. Then an accusation, "What happened to you last night?" It is the tone of voice, I hear it. It’s not just a question. I've been a bad dog. Again. Bad dog. Bad me. Whatajerk, whatajerk, whatajerk. Too much is happening again. It is just like last night but how do I explain. What do I say? I don't want a incident. I don't want to argue. I'm not angry. It's not you. Yet I'm not happy either. If I’m not happy, then I must be angry. I don't know what else to feel. I want to wag my tail. I want pats. I want to be a good dog. I know I'm not. I know I don't deserve it. I'm just a train, a big freight train charging down the tracks. I hear its engine ... whatajerk, whatajerk, whatajerk. I don't want to leave the tracks. I've left the tracks before. We know that. Things get broken. Walls get broken. That screeching of twisting, tearing metal when the train leaves the tracks is things being said that shouldn't. How can I stop a freight train crashing? Things are said that should not be said. These aren't true things, these aren't real things, and this is a train crash. How can I stop a freight train crashing? It is better to keep on the tracks, just keep the engines humming along ... whatajerk, whatajerk, whatajerk. I leave. I'm sorry. I've very sorry about last night. I'm sorry about this morning. But I have to keep the train on the tracks. I can't turn around. I seem unable to turn around. I want to. I really want to. I really just want to be a good dog. Good dogs get their bellies scratched though. My belly isn't being scratched. I hear accusation. I hear condemnation. I'm just a train, whatajerk, whatajerk, whatajerk. I leave. My life always seems to be all or nothing. I know I want it all with you my wife. I want too much. I turn it to nothing. Please know I'm striving to turn things around. I know I'm not a train. I know I'm not a dog. I'm a man. A man trying to turn things around in my life. I know there a too many words here. How else can I explain though? It isn't just yes or no. I am unable to explain my brain by saying yes or no. It is not just all or nothing. I always have too many words in my head. I always have too much to say. All these words are what the train is pulling. How can I explain? I don't want to leave. I love you.