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- Is ADHD epidemic now, or what? by: dedelight4 8 years 1 month ago I am just wondering if ADHD is now reaching epidemic proportions, or is it that it's being diagnosed more now? I know that those of us here, are in ADHD affected relationships, and that makes us more aware of it, but this seems to be a growing issue. Is there also any information as to WHY there are so many folks with this?
- I am afraid to do anything together with my adhd boyfriend by: waldewin 8 years 1 month ago Hi everybody, My adhd boyfriend is exemplary in many ways- namely he actually does housework, he is also working on getting his finances together etc. The problem is- he still gets angry very very quickly and often times he remains angry for hours. To me these seem to be small things, such like- I did not look at him when I was talking to him while we were taking a walk or I asked him if he is going to finish the icecream (I should have just understood that he is going to do this) etc etc. He often times tells me that his anger is completely justified, because I have disrespected him. I can understand this in some situation, for instance I could vaguely understand him in situation where he is tieing his shoelaces and I am moving foarward slowly instead of stopping with him. However, I am not super attentive person myself and I feel that everytime I am not giving all my attention on him and anticipating how he wants me to behave, he gets angry. Things have developed so far that I really do not want to do anything together with him. We manage to fight at least once a day and that is when we both spend only couple of hourse together at home. I used to think that the problems were mine, because my adhd can be very convincing, but now, after years of therapy, he still finding new and new things he thinks I should change. I, on the other hand am getting more and more disappointed, because I feel that I have put in a lot of effort, but we are still standing in the same place as we were one year ago, with one exception- I am starting to notice how badly he often times treats me. Anyways, just wanted to hear your stories that are related or any advice, Best waldewin
- What has been your last straw? by: vabeachgal 8 years 1 month ago
- getting things done with an ADHD spouse or former spouse by: PoisonIvy 8 years 1 month ago I'm not angry or frustrated any more about the issue below, but I know most people here read the Anger and Frustration group topics, so I decided to put it here. Spouses and partners of people with ADHD, how many of you relate to the following? My divorce was final in May. I had two primary goals with the divorce: crafting a fair and close to equal division of the property; and arranging the divorce process and post-divorce matters in such a way that my now ex-H would have to do as little as possible. So, for example, although it's not necessarily better for me financially to have the house, it makes total sense from the point of view of my and ex-H's relative strengths, because if he had the house, he wouldn't be paying the associated bills, he wouldn't be cleaning it up, etc., etc., but I am doing those things. In early June, I contacted our investment adviser to initiate the paperwork needed to separate our accounts. When they sent me things I needed to sign, I did so and sent them back immediately. Today, I got around to setting up my online access to my accounts, and discovered that ex-H and I are still listed jointly on one of the accounts, which, according to the divorce agreement, is now ex-H's. I contacted the company, and the adviser's assistant told me that she has tried to contact ex-H several times and he hasn't responded. Ugh for her, but not a problem for me. Yay. NOT MY PROBLEM!!!
- .??? SUPPORT ??? by: ADH9er 8 years 1 month ago
That is what I hope for. Alas, the ADHD Community, or should I say Assembly, seemingly contains many individuals who (we), reside in, and feel safest in, our own personal protective universes.
Don’t get me wrong, I am grateful for the rewards this site has rendered to my DW for nearly 6 years, and the Comrades she is able to relate to on deeply painful and personal levels.
I just find it draining to be the sole participant, (here on this forum), in actively making an effort to communicate with my spouse and find answers, while being barraged with TMO.(too many opinions) for me to reasonably, coherently navigate.
It is not clear to me as to why there are so few of (in my case), the male counterparts, who were *blessed/cursed* with the Titled neurology, to come forward and speak their hearts. (Aside from the fact that Our breed has had plenty enough disapproval to date, to last to Eternity).
Surely for every spouse holding the title ‘Non-ADHD’, there is at least one current or former ‘help-mate’ as counterpart. Surely we have a stake in this ‘dang-blasted’ EFFECT ! .Surely our stories are valid and worthy of being told, and more importantly being empathetically received.
If you are out there, and decide to jump-on-in, I will admit resisting the ‘fight-or-flight reflex is, well let's just say it takes a lot more out of you than you knew you had. While on the other-hand, and at the same time, (for me anyway), I have embarked on sobering journey learning how my Ferrari Brain w/ bicycle brakes can be all over the road, .......and ever so slowly…….. Trying to master, how to ‘feather the controls’.
So ‘come-on-in’. I can't guaranty a you won't get nicked up, but along with the Jelly-fish,Sharks & Reefs, there is a lot more under the surface.In Anticipation of ‘like’ kinship.
ADH9erP.S. If your gonna stick your toe in, cover your whole leg with ‘chain-mail’ (armor).
- Somedays, our lives get to a very fevered pitch by: I'm So Exhausted 8 years 1 month ago
I refuse to make a tally list of poor behaviors.
I freely choose to put my life out in the public eye in this open forum, where comments, both positive and negative, both agreeing and non-agreeing, are written.
I know I am free to take what I need, and leave the rest. I no longer feel condemned by other's views, and when it is needed, I do get convicted of behaviors and things I need to change.
Indeed in life, I have learned that it's usually my own expectations that cause me the biggest disappointments. I do not have a clear list of what is the usual and customary expectation in a loving, balanced marriage, and what is above and beyond, in essence setting myself up for defeat. Some things are very clear. Some are misunderstandings, and can be worked through.
Let me start out this with a very fictional story.
Tucked in the corner of the office at a large corporation, is a huge, giant, massive (it is big!) area for meditation. It has a water fall running down a rock wall, where the water follows a stream to an indoor pond. The pond contains many,many goldfish. Sometimes people enjoying the sounds of the water. Sometimes people let their fingers run through the water fall. It feels so nice, and cool, and has a very relaxing effect on them.
One day, there is a dead fish floating in the pond. It is scooped out, and no one thinks much of it. A few days later there is another dead fish. Hmm. Interesting. The water is clear. The filters are fine. No one is "poisoning the water hole" by tossing in litter.
The fish continue to die.
The water's PH level is tested. It is fine. The temperature is monitored. It is at its optimum. Yet the fish are continually dying.
The oxygen level is tested. It is fine. Yet the fish are continually dying.
A complete battery of tests are done to the water. An unknown substance is discovered. The water source is tested. Not from there. The cleaning tools are tested. Not from there. The food storage bins are tested. Not from there.
A complete battery of tests are done on the next fish that dies. That unknown substance is found to be coating its gills, which caused the inability to get oxygen through its gills, and it apparently died from lack of oxygen.
A complete test is done on the substance, and it is determined to be sunflower seed oil. How in the world does the indoor fish pond get contaminated wth sunflower seed oil? The food is retested. There are no sunflowers in the feed. No sunflower oil is used in its manufacturing.
Further research is done. It is discovered that sunflower seed oil is contained in many types of skin creams.
People are shocked and dismayed to learn that while they were enjoying the feel of the cool water running over their fingers,they were inadvertently poisoning the water, making it unsustainable for the fish.
Now, a solution must be chosen:
- 1. Remove the fish so people can enjoy the water streaming over their hands.
- 2. Ask people to not put their hands in the waterfall if they have used any skin products.
- 3. Get rid of the fish pond, and play soothing music.
The point in this story as it compares to me life - we had no clue that my spouse was ADHD. We had no clue that the typical symptoms were causing problems in our communication. Now we know. We have a clear documented diagnosis. Some things are part and parcel to ADHD. There are tools/techniques/behavior modifications that can be adopted to improve how being ADHD affects my spouse's day, and trickles down to effect our life together.
I can be understanding, and realize that things are not done on purpose, and learn to be a bit more flexible. However, I do not choose to put ADHD at the top of every minute of everyday and have all our lives revolve around the symptoms. I do not choose to ignore the effect chronic anger has on my day to day living. MY expectation is that my spouse learn to get his anger in check, take responsibility for it, AND apologize when it hurts/harms/disrupts me and/or our family. AND that can only be done if my spouse finds a way to be willing to LISTEN to his spouse who loves him dearly, and TRUST she is looking out for his best interest by indicating when the symptoms are causing problems.
We cannot make it go away. Any more than our dear niece can ignore her diabetes and refuse to monitor her sugar levels and will simple not self inject her body with insulin. It is what it is. She has diabetes. Your brain is wired ADHD. If you continue to choose to feel damned by it, poisoned by it, cursed by it, we cannot move ahead as a couple.
That weight is upon your shoulders. Will you do it? I believe you can. I want to support you. I want to be your help-mate. I want to try to learn to be closer to you.
With things as they stand right now, today, I am unable to make that choice. I am afraid to try again without some way of measuring the result of the hard work as it pertains to me.
I do not intend to sound harsh. I intend to show determination. Right now, that consists of having boundaries to protect my own well mental being.
With sincerity to all members here,
And with Love to Tom,
Liz
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- ADD and Insecurity by: jsmith77 8 years 1 month ago
My husband has untreated ADD, and we are newly married. When we were dating he joked about his lifetime of ADD and I didn't think much of it, not knowing much about it. Now I see how while we were dating he was hyper focused on romancing me. Which of course won me over. He was over the top good to me, almost being pushy. He actually says he steam-rolled me into marrying him. Ha.
However, now we're approx 8 months into our marriage and I am losing hope at how to deal w his micro analyzing every detail about our relationship. In the beginning if I even mentioned my ex fiancé in discussing past relationships, he became obsessed with if I still loved him. Made me go through all my jewelry and toss expensive pieces he had given me, insisting I was holding onto it cause I still loved him. Then I couldn't even mention speaking to my ex husband about our children, without him making snide comments that I wish I was still married to him. I had to ditch every male friend I had cause he thought there was more to it. I can't talk about men at work cause he asks if I think about having sex with them. And the latest is, I don't want to have sex whenever he wants to, cause I just don't want him. Even though he knows I'm more of a every 2-3 days kind of girl. When he is in his obsessive zone, no matter my tears or pleads he doesn't listen. Then when he has several days of self reflection he recognizes that he over thinks things too much and asks for forgiveness. He has been in talks with his doctor, taking different anti-anxiety drugs. So far, the SSRI's work best, but not completely and the side effects cause him to quit them.
Im at a loss. I hope someone can give some assurance, guidance, and let me know I am not alone. Is this typical of ADD or not?
- Figuring more out... by: Redhead5 8 years 1 month ago
I haven't been on here much but I'm just seeing if anyone might be in a similar boat. I figured out my husband had ADHD and he was diagnosed almost a year ago. He was put on Vyvanse which helped him a lot. He can stay awake and alert and control his focus better now. But it didn't fix everything. The work I kept trying to put into our communication wasn't making a dent. No matter how hard he tried, he wasn't understanding a bit of my feelings or how to listen or able to meet my emotional needs. I was feeling more and more stressed at our interactions and his inability to figure things out.
I finally found an ADHD counselor but he was odd himself and just ended up talking about himself a lot. In one of the rare moments when he did listen, he said the words that changed everything for me. He said what was going on with my husband was Aspergers. This hit me like a ton of bricks. It's not something you just mention and move on from. That was our last appointment with that counselor. But then I asked my husband what he thought and he acknowledged he does have similar traits. We knew a bit of it from a couple of books he read where he finally related to the characters(Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night and The Rosie Project). And we had talked about it a bit as he's been honest about his difficulties but I just couldn't believe he had it. Until this time. I researched the heck out of AS marriages and my life was finally explained. My husband was finally explained. We found out in April and have now found an AS counselor who's a godsend. I grieved and cried and grieved some more for a few months but I'm finally coming to the side of acceptance now. His ADHD makes life difficult with remembering things and schedules and timing but his AS intensifies that and everything else. It's hard but it makes sense. The most healing part is I now know I am not crazy. I have a ways to go to get back to a healthy me but at least I see the possibility now. I have the help now. I have the answer now.
I will never have the marriage I wanted. I'm glad I know for certain and can learn to accept that. I will be hurt by lots of things but at least I know what is hurting me now. We have a long road to a healthy marriage but it's slowly improving finally now. Every month I can actually see progress and it's a glorious thing!
Has anyone else discovered their ADHD husband also has AS?
- Frustrated by: Mr W 8 years 1 month ago
This is my first post here.
My wife was diagnosed with ADHD less than a year ago. At first I wasn't too convinced. Over the years it has been different things, depression, PTSD, BPD, etc... When we married 10 years ago I only knew a little bit about this. She briefly described some of her previous problems, but I was lost in the daze of love and didn't dive deeper. After reading the ADHD Effect, and other books on ADHD, I am sure this is it.
To give the whole back story would take pages. Lets just say there has been problems with me and with her. We are far from perfect. We have two kids, 5 and 7, and live in a nice house. You would think that everything looks great. However, I am always stressed out of my mind about bills, lack of her attention/desire, and my wife's inability to communicate with me about important things.
I'm in the military and currently deployed. This isn't the first, its the sixth. Every time I deploy we have the same arguments. I feel that she doesn't communicate enough and she says she is too busy. I know it is very hard to take care of kids on your own, even more so with ADHD. We've hired au pairs, her parents moved closer, we have baby sitters, she is always too busy. She always finds work, in the beginning it was volunteer work and now its her job. She commits everything to it as long as it is interesting to her. I email, send a chat, or call when I can ... almost everyday. I've waited almost a week for her to respond. I wonder if I am too needy, if I am asking too much, or if I have unrealistic expectations. I don't know. I don't want to base my relationship off the guys around me, but it seems like their wives are doing a lot more in this department. I feel lonely and unloved. I send flowers, I get a brief message back. I send romantic emails and she doesn't read them for days. My last deployment I send a love letter once a week. She didn't open half of them until almost a year later.
I've asked for photos of the kids and updates on school. I think she has sent me pictures about once a month and a few times twice. My son had a birthday party with just her parents. I didn't find out about it until the next day when I saw the pictures on my mother-in-law's Facebook. When I asked why she didn't take pictures and send me them, I was told to stop complaining and I wasn't missing anything. I've missed a lot due to military deployments. Pictures and video would go a long way.
Recently what has concerned me is her spending. Over the past six months she has made three major purchases without talking to me in advance. I found out she paid for her braces, about $5,000, after I saw the bill. I didn't even know that she wanted to do it. Recently she told me she invested in a local business for almost $7,000. This was after she spent the money. When I asked where it came from, knowing it was out on a credit card, she tells me not to worry and that it will be paid back once she gets her paycheck. Then she gets very defensive and asks why I am keeping tabs on her. Its been weeks and I still haven't seen it paid back. This weekend she is going to a work conference. The whole thing is almost $4,000. I know she paid for a first class ticket. We can't afford these things. The only reason I know the cost of this recent trip is because I read her email. She never told me about how much it would cost. I feel bad for looking, but the spending will effect me as well. I also saw an email about a loan, so she is taking out money for her business too. Her job isn't going well and I know she is dumping a lot into it, she just hides it from me.
It is hard to manage bills while I am away, so she does most of it. I'm not sure what to do. I will be home in about 45 days. I want to work this out now, but maybe that is too much. I can't sleep well and I am having a hard time focusing on work when I need to. I want to talk to anyone, but most of all my wife. The last two times I've called she doesn't answer.
I have another 9 years until I can retire. That means more time away and I can't keep going through this cycle. I bought the book on kindle so she can read it too. I've asked her to take a look at it because it also focuses on the hardships of the non-adhd partner. I can't fix her I can only work on myself. Its just hard when her actions effect me so much.
- weekend help needed by: dvance 8 years 1 month ago
Okay friends--advice/suggestions/support/help needed. This weekend DH wants to go apple picking in Wisconsin, which is only an hour away from us. We used to go when the boys were little, they are now 15 and 17. I get car sick which no one enjoys. DH has only two modes--super jokey and sarcastic or sullen. It costs $20 for each of us and he told the 17 YO he could bring his girlfriend, who I adore, but that's another $20 AND he told everyone we could also stop at the outlets. Where he thinks all this money is coming from is a mystery to me--he also just bought a car over the weekend and where we had NO car payments for the past 8 months now we have a $323 car payment which is more than we budgeted for. He set out to stick to a $250 budget but alas there was nothing in that price range (I don't believe him, but too late now). He has worked about a million hours in the past two days and no end in sight so he is likely to be exhausted by Saturday. I have worked 11 hours 2 days in a row and have a third day of that tomorrow, so I am pretty much sick of the human race too. All of this sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me. In all honesty I would rather not go. I would rather he take the kids and me stay home but we are supposed to be doing more family things. He and I have virtually nothing to talk about so the car ride is likely to be the oldest and his girlfriend being goofy, the 15 YO being sullen because that is his MO lately and DH being sarcastic and tease-y with everyone. I hate the weird dynamic between DH and the oldest and nothing I do or say helps--we have discussed it ad nauseam in marriage therapy too and it just isn't getting through. I wish DH could just have normal conversations/interactions but he can't. Examples: the oldest and his girlfriend are walking in front of us holding hands--normally mind you--and DH will barge in between them and break their hands apart. Why?? Or DH will continually bump into the 15 YO on purpose and pretty soon they look like a freaking circus. Again, why? I am tired of being looked at everywhere we go--we do not have toddlers any more, we should be able to go places just normally. So the car ride is an issue for me, the weird interactions between DH and the boys is an issue for me and the money is an issue for me. Should I opt out and say I have too much school work to do or that I don't want to be car sick? Another option is to take two cars, which sounds dumb but I can say it's because of my car sickness. When the 17 YO was in rehab 90 minutes away we took two cars every time we visited not only because I get car sick but because car rides with DH are so unpleasant. I would rather drive alone. But how weird does that look to the girlfriend? Or should I not care what she thinks? It will make DH's car less crowded if I drive myself and then I don't have to listen to the ridiculousness. The youngest is likely to drive with me too because he and I listen to books on CD and DH won't. Thoughts? Even as I type this I can see I have to be more firm and just put my foot down about some things or this day is going to suck for all of us for different reasons. I think I will take my own car and say we cannot stop at the outlets because the $100 for apple picking is enough. Just those two things would make me calmer. I was actually going to email my doc for a xanax scrip to take with me. How sad is that--take drugs to make it possible to deal with your family. Okay--I am rambling--any thoughts or alternate plans would be appreciated.
thanks
dvance