I have been married to a man with ADHD for 15 years and I can't count the number of new projects he has started only to fail completely after a few months. The problem is that it is always the same project. My husband keeps trying to set up magazines where he is the editor. He gets his friends to write free articles and then after a few issues he has no money to publish anymore and its closes. At the same time, he has about three free websites he has created that he writes endless articles for-but with no income. Our son is now 17 years old and it is critical that I save money for university for him. I can no longer afford for my husband to pursue these endless self-publications and I have told him that it is absolutely finished now. I pay all the rent, the insurances, the school fees, have bought him a car, etc. In other words, my husband has a total free ride claiming that he needs to invest in his future by pursuing his writing (he is 65) and therefore can't work. I have just found out that despite my absolute insistence against it, he is launching yet another new magazine with a tiny investment that won't allow him to get paid but will cover the cost of the publishing of the first issue. He insists that this is a pilot and it is critical that he do it because he has already told everyone he is starting a new magazine. I am at the end of my rope. It is financially killing me, but on top of it I cannot stand going through another cycle of big idea, launch with a fraction of the required money, months of trying to get more investors, then failure and another closure. Throughout this entire time, he earns not a penny and I have to cover all the costs of running our home. I am 53 and will not be able to save for my own retirement because of his lack of financial support. Evidently there is nothing I can do to force him to work but is there some way I can get him to stop with all these endless new projects (which are always just a variation of the same idea)? I can't bear it anymore. I have begged him not to do this again but he absolutely won't listen. I want to cut him off financially but am not sure if I can legally do this. Where can I get help? I can't stand another year of living through this..
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- ADHD and financial problems in marriage by: LoriH 8 years 2 months ago
- Managing anger vs. Walking on eggshells by: Adhdivorce 8 years 2 months ago
Non adhd wife. Hey so my q is when it it just "lovable hunkey dorey Adhd" that I should coddle, vs when is it just outright abuse I'm taking/not living my life so that I can make sure he doesn't get mad?
I guess I'm asking what is the official line? When has it been crossed?
Does the line exist in each of us non-Adhd? And once we've had enough, that's it? Or we go through years/ decades happily and then suddenly the last straw breaks our back? And we can't even look at our partner with love anymore.
90% of time he is fine, perfect ideal husband. But I am blamed for everything that goes wrong and called disgusting names during these outbursts. There is never an apology. I am expected to not have resentment at these outbursts and to go on as if it never happened. But sometimes he will pin me to the wall or hit me. But that's only once every 2-3 years when I lose my temper with him and get emotionally reactive when I could have just held my tounge.
I see others here who have endured such things and keep trying. Any thoughts on any of this would be greatly appreciated!
- Sexual behaviour and ADHD by: inthedark 8 years 2 months ago
My new boyfriend acts unusual sexually, wants me to tell him what to do because I said I didn't like what he was saying (inappropriate and disrespectful things) during lovemaking. He seems to switch from being tender and loving to sort of aggressive and forceful. Anyone experience similar behaviour with your ADHD partners?
- Habits and Poeple W/ADHD by: kellyj 8 years 2 months ago
This is more of a curiosity, but as I have dug deeper into what is ADHD and what is not ADHD.....I realized something about my family growing up that I always noticed as different with some of our members in the family and not others. My original thought was about food and personal preferences....but this extends to other things as well such as...restaurants, entertainment, and favorite spots to go visit and revisit again....and again....and again.....and again????
I mentioned once that growing up in our household was like the movie "Groundhog Day"...different day...same old thing. Nothing....ever seemed to change or be different. I always considered this as falling under the heading of personal preference.....but I'm now wondering if ADHD isn't the reason for this? I don't really know?
When it came to food for example....we always ate the exact same things and the menu never changed......hardly. Occasionally....something new would appear once in a blue moon....but pretty much, nothing ever changed when it came to food. The interesting thing here however....came to the DEFINITE food preferences for some people in the family...who were much pickier eaters than others so my mom would have two sets of things in the refrigerator for how these lines got divided it seemed right down the middle for example: some hated butter and only ate margarine and others didn't like margarine and preferred butter so my mom bought both and we always had both on hand. The interesting thing about me in this mix....is I would eat just about anything and margarine was Okay....and so was butter. LOL
I'm not a picky eater and will eat just about anything. I have my preferences...but the only thing I prefer....is not to eat the same thing all the time. I rarely can eat the same left overs 3 days in a row with few exceptions. Variety...is the spice of life as they say and I like variety more than anything when it comes to food.
The interesting thing that I noticed with my sisters and myself to this day.....when it comes to going to a restaurant...a place to visit or revisit.....nothings changed? It's still the same restaurants we go when we get together...and when they order take out for the extended family get together.....it's always the same thing. Same restaurant, same menu items, same order each time without fail???
I on the other hand....prefer to go to a new restaurant more frequently...than going to the same one over and over. And if I do go to the same one....I will try something new each time or go with the special that is not on the menu....just to try it...or just for the Hell of it. Why not I ask??
This pattern I have...seems to extend to other things as well. I like different....and things not always staying the same....by nature? And realizing that we had more than one person (me) in our family who has/had ADHD.......I'm wondering how this plays out with others who have ADHD and how they're habits....also seem to extend to a pattern in others things as well?
I'm curious? For anyone with ADHD....or with someone with ADHD......how does this play out for you or your SO?
Variety..... and not very picky or particular but prefer different over the same thing each time?
or.....
Tastes and preferences are always the same when it comes to food, places and activities and things need to be VERY specific and are rather particular about everything?
Are these things just "personal preferences" and 'tastes"...or are they associated with having ADHD in an either/or type scenario as it seemed in our family.
I'm hoping to get some input into this for myself since it would help answer a lot of questions I have about this that includes a lot of other things that I just don't have room to get into here. Thanks
J
- Alexithymia - suddenly things are making sense.... by: SpaceyStacey197... 8 years 2 months ago
C brought up Alexithymia in another post, and holy smokes... it sure seems to be another layer in this insane onion I have been peeling for 7 years. Here is an article about it:
Summary
Alexithymia is a trait that makes it hard to find words for thoughts and feelings. It is experienced by both children and adults and can come in mild, moderate and severe forms. When identified, alexithymia can be treated – with the goal of making feelings and their textures easier to navigate.http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/the-emotional-blindn...
This talks about that dicsonnecnt between how someone feels - and the inability to EXPRESS those feelings or describe thier feelings. My husband hits nearly every single one of the symptoms. From Scientific American:
Alexithymia is defined by:[9]
- Difficulty identifying different types of feelings (my H - he has never been able to successfully describe his emotions, or understand what he is feeling at the time etc. Its always been very uncomfortable for him to feel emotions of ANY sort)
- Limited understanding of what causes feelings (I dont think he really has any idea of WHY he feels how he does about things, just that he does, and even that he cant really figure out)
- Difficulty expressing feelings (see above, I am pretty sure the ONLY answer I have ever gotten from him is "I dont know, I dont know how to find the words" etc on how he is feeling)
- Difficulty recognizing facial cues in others (He for sure has NO CLUE on how I am feeling about stuff sometimes, and I know he cant tell about others too on a regular basis)
- Limited or rigid imagination (I have often wondered if there is anything inside at all, he never shares anything with me, and from what I can see - is not able to use his imagination to envision success or solutions or anything like that. I dont think he has any sort of "dreams" in the same sense of having goals and visions to strive for - he has zero ambition or drive to accomplish ANYTHING at all)
- Constricted style of thinking (OH MAN... for sure this... he is unable and unwilling to even consider other points of view or other ideas, even things brought up by professionals..)
- Hypersensitive to physical sensations (He doesnt like to be touched. I am not allowed to touch him with out him initiating it. Can you imagine how hard this has been for so many years to not even be able to HUG him just because I want to?)
- Detached or tentative connection to others (I am pretty sure that he would be happiest alone, never seeing anyone unless they are providing him a service of some sort or that he is getting something out of it)
Suddenly so much makes sense. Here is an online questionaire - http://www.alexithymia.us/test-alex.html
I took it using my "assumption" of my husbands answers - some I know for sure, some were guesses. I am confident that i got dammed close to how he would answer and the result was 151 points - a "high alexithymic traits" result.
Here are the treatments that Scientific American talks about:
Courtesy of Deborah Serani
Treatments for Alexithymia
If you love a child or adult with alexithymia, realize that the missed cues, flat reactions or lack of emotional recognition have real neurobiological and psychological origins. Don’t punish, shame or mock their emotional unresponsiveness. Instead, practice patience. Consider explaining your needs in briefer terms, “I’m feeling tired, I don’t want to cook. Let’s get take-out for dinner.” Or helping them label emotions, “You look angry. Is something bothering you?” Help raise their awareness of triggers or stressors that are bubbling to the surface, “You have your SAT’s soon, are you feeling anxious?” Realizing that your loved one may not speak, hear or sense the same emotional language as you can help when conflicts or misunderstandings take place.If you live with alexithymia, the goal is to strengthen your ability to identify and understand feelings. Teaching yourself about the subjective experiences of others will be important too. Keep in mind that stretching and learning emotional awareness can be a very challenging journey. Here are some ways to broaden your skills:
Journaling: Studies show that expressive writing can be helpful in stretching one’s ability to detect emotions [6]. Generally, it’s recommended to write everyday in a journal, going beyond listing the events of the day. In the beginning this will be hard for those who have thymia. But the goal is to broaden the range of your observations within and outside of yourself.
Reading Novels: The language of describing thoughts, feelings, moments and experiences is literally found in novels. Studies suggest this is a great way to learn expressive language, develop the muscle of receptive language and gain mastery in how to describe a story or personal narrative [7].
The Expressive Arts: Taking a more formal approach with an acting, dance, art, music or movement therapy class has been shown to help those with alexithymia recognize and externalize feelings [8]. Try signing up for courses offered in adult and child education in your town, community programs or college workshops. Consider private sessions with a licensed creative arts or dance movement therapist.
Skill-Based Psychotherapy Treatments: This is a short form of psychotherapy that aims to teach through skill building. Treatments like Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Cognitive Mindfulness Training and Short Term Interpersonal Therapy will teach you how to be more attentive to personal feeling states and how to identify emotions in others [9].
Group Psychotherapy: The interactive aspect of group therapy can offer children and adults ways to explore their own thoughts and feelings as well as experience meaningful exchanges with others. This mode of psychotherapy also deepens a sense of connectedness with others [10].
Hypnosis and Relaxation Training: While most psychotherapies utilize talking as a way to reduce alexithymic symptoms, hypnosis and relaxation training look towards guided imagery and mentalizations to help enhance emotional understanding [11]. Seek out relaxation training workshops in your community, and always work with a licensed hypnotist when using hypnosis treatment for alexithymia.
I posted this hoping that it might help some of us here understand the apathy issues we face. Thanks again C for bringing it to my attention....
- ADHD adaptive techniqes for those living with someone with ADHD by: Anonymous (not verified) 8 years 2 months ago
I have posted my fair share of rants against my H out of frustration and nowhere else to rant. But it occurred to me ranting is not solving anything. Thinking positively is the only way I can survive. Also, I am sure at least one of my kids will have ADHD so I might as well start learning how to deal now. I used to work with people with disabilities and while at the time ADHD was not a disability we worked with they taught us other "adaptive techniques" for teaching these individuals how to ski with their particular disability. So I thought why not have a forum topic where we list out techniques that have helped us? ONLY LIST TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE HELPED YOU PLEASE! I want this to be a positive forum.
Please list an issue you were challenged with and how you adapted and found a solution to deal with that issue so you were both happy with the outcome. Example: Scheduling, finances, communication, chores, help with the kids, hygiene, etc... I will go first.
Finances. PROBLEM: was not paying all bills each month due to not managing finances well, losing bills etc..., making risky financial decisions or impulse buying. SOLUTION-I put my kids in daycare and got a decent paying job with good benefits. I stopped doing his business's bookkeeping which made me nuts. I made a budget of the household bills and showed my H how much it cost us to live each month and told him how much he needs to give me each month to cover this cost (1/2) . I told him if he gives me his half I will make sure all bills are paid for the house each month and not discuss finances with him till the next year I make a budget. He can choose to spend any extra money other than his half the way he wishes or give to me to pay down debt, but it is his choice. He is in charge of paying his own personal bills (traffic tickets, credit card, hunting, fishing etc..) and his biz bills. I do not keep track if he does this or not I just manage the household stuff. I more secure knowing I have a roof over my head, health insurance, and car insurance and he feels less stressed for the same reason and a bonus I do not nag him anymore. If he wants a big purchase item I remind him that it is not part of the budget thus it comes out of his own money and not the money he gives me each month (he usually ends up not purchasing). We also have separate bank accounts but we have access to each other's if needed in an emergency. We have been doing this two years now and it is working great!
- I always try to do the right thing and then wonder why I bother when H doesn't seem to care! by: Anonymous (not verified) 8 years 2 months ago
Yesterday was my company picnic. I asked H 2 weeks ago if he wanted to get off work early and come to it since he only works about 15 minutes away. He said "Nah, you go ahead and go without me. Last time it was kind of boring and you'll have more fun if you don't have to tote me around". Well no, actually it would be really nice to have you there since most people bring their spouses, but whatever. I'm sure he never gave it a second thought. So I wasn't even going to remind him of it yesterday because I figured I'd just go for the snacks and drinks and leave when they were going to serve the meal and I'd still be home before him and he'd never know any different, but I sent him an email from work yesterday saying "Forgot to mention to you that it’s our picnic today. I have no desire to stick around for the meal, just the snacks and drinks. I’m sure I’ll still beat you home tonight." He responds with "Grab a plate for me too". I don't know if he was trying to be funny or what (because if he wanted a plate he should have come!) but I told him "As I said, I’ll be taking off before the meal is ready to go. We’ve got brats to cook for dinner at home!" and he responds with "Okay sounds good".
The reason I was skipping the meal is so we could have dinner together at home because or else I could just hear from previous times "Oh you didn't bring anything home for me? Great thanks for thinking of me! Now I have to find something to eat for myself." I could just see it. I get home at 6:30, about 15-30 minutes before I expected him home. 7:30 he still wasn't home. 8:00 he still wasn't home. 8:30 he finally calls me all upbeat and the first words out of my mouth to him are "Don't tell me you are still at work" (I knew he wouldn't be). He goes "Well kind of. I had to deliver a motorcycle to one of the customers and I asked my coworker if he wanted to follow me and then we'd stop and have a beer and then he could drop me back off at the shop. We went to the pub and ran into a guy I know and we started talking motorcycles. But now I'm back at the shop and on my way home." I was furious! I skipped the meal at the picnic to have dinner with him. He knew I was going to be home before him and that we were going to have brats for dinner. I could have hung out much longer with my coworkers. Oh AND the place we had the picnic was about 4 blocks from my work and the pub they went to (that they always go to) is LITERALLY 3 doors down from where I work! I could have easily met him if I had stayed and eaten at the picnic but he tells me "Oh I thought you were going to be leaving for home at like 5PM before I even got off." He didn't even try and call me. Not only did he not try and call me about that, but he didn't even bother to call me and tell he was going to this pub. He's just 2 hours late getting home but it's not a big deal. Then he went on about how the guy he asked to go to the pub with him was so grateful for him asking him to go because he doesn't know anyone here. That's great, but I expected us to be having dinner together. I at least should have gotten a call before you made the decision to go there so I wasn't sitting there waiting to have something to eat. If I had pulled this stunt, you can be sure I'd be hearing about it for days about how I didn't call and came home late. I'd probably even get "Oh were you with your boyfriend?"
He finally gets home about 9PM and after 5 minutes I tell him I'm tired and going to bed. I WAS tired, but I was more irritated than anything and he could tell. He then tells me he's tired too and going to check his email, log into his game and see what's going on and he'll be in shortly. Well anytime he tells me he'll "be in shortly" I can pretty much take that as that's the absolute opposite of what he's going to do. Sure enough, I wake up aat 11 and hear the video game. He didn't even seem to bother to try and keep the noise down. I shut the door and turn on the fan to block it out. He doesn't come to bed until almost 1AM! Okay you know you already irritated me by not coming home until later and not letting me know, and then you irritate me again by spending nearly 4 hours playing your stupid video game! Thanks for spending 5 minutes of your day with me! God I want to throw that computer of his out the window! He will sit there for hours on end playing that. Maybe come and sit with me for 30 minutes before he has to race off and play again. Nothing else gets done around the house.
You know what I accomplished in a 2 hour time span after I got home from work and before he got home a few days ago? I vacuumed, mopped the floor, cleaned the bathrooms, watered the garden, picked ripe veggies from the garden, and started laundry. Do you know what he accomplished over the entire weekend last weekend? Moving the trailer from the street to the driveway, which he had said he was going to do 2 weeks prior! That's it! Something that took 10 minutes. The rest was drinking and video gaming! And he thinks moving the trailer was just a huge thing to have done.
- Epiphany, Realization, Awakenings....stupidity... by: SpaceyStacey197... 8 years 2 months ago
I was responding to another post here, and one sentence just seem to write itself, but I had to re-read it a few times... because it was powerful. Intense... as in, really eye opening in how simple but how profound it was to my experience.
"Right now - I am making plans for a new life, revisiting dreams I thought I would never get to live because of putting my life on hold for someone who didnt even care enough to read a chapter in a book that could have helped save our marriage. "
It really summed up everything that has been happening in my head over the last 2 months. I have put on hold, everything *I* wanted, the dreams and hopes I had for US and myself.
Those things that he promised me, like roses on random days, and waking up wrapped in eachothers arms in the morning. Holding hands while walking through the woods at a medeival event... capturing magic that we both believed in. Growing old together, snuggling on the couch, being able to put faith into eachother. Working together to build a financially secure life and future where we could travel the world, see EVERYTHING or just sit on the beach, watching the waves while holding hands. - NONE of which ever happened.
Those things that I wanted for myself - like finishing my educational goals. persuing my own goals in our shared hobby... its not much, but its some that I have put aside because I had no energy for it after spending all of it on HIM and dealing with the damage of his disorder.
We share so many interests that its scary. We have a 25+ year friendship. We have a marriage of 5 years, with a romance of 7 years. We have dogs, a home, a shared hobby with shared goals, so many things we have worked and built up.
And none of that was worth him picking up a book and reading a chapter to make things better for us..... IT WASNT WORTH IT TO HIM. I WASNT WORTH IT. OUR LIFE WASNT WORTH IT. all that I am, all that I gave, my very soul, my support and undying love was not worth it to him to life a finger to save. Not even worth the time to pick up one of the many books he wanted and that I wanted and bought to read a chapter that might have opened the door to saving *us*. I even bought him a kindle to make it easy... who knows where that even is. He only read a letter I wrote to him because he as asked to read it IN our therapy session.... not even worth the hour it might have taken to read anything to save our marriage....
He saw us drowning and it was too hard for him to do anything about it, expecting me to carry it all..... He always takes the best for himself, leaving me with what ever is left.... He reminds me of Glen from The Wedding Singer!
One time, we had a fight, he was going to leave - I said fine but was upset. We worked it out. With in minutes of agreeing that he was staying and that we loved eachother, he asked for new expensive armor for his fighting. How did I not see this for what it is right then....
I am Stacey - the breaker of chains... (to quote a TV character LOL). I am breaking my own chains, freeing myself of this. I will never again put aside my hopes and dreams for someone who cant even be bothered to read a book to save us.
- Do they realize as soon as they say they'll do something that they have no plans to ACTUALLY do it?? by: Anonymous (not verified) 8 years 2 months ago
I am SO SO SO tired of hearing things come out of my husband's mouth and then 30 minutes later it's like he never said them. Below are several examples.
1) The one I've been hearing for a couple of months now is that he's going to work on the pond tomorrow or this weekend. Even didn't go into work for 4 days because he was upset with a customer. He could have worked on it and had it done well within that time as the weather was nice. It was his idea to have this pond and worked on it last year, but everything went downhill because he didn't take care of it so he had to empty it and dig it out some more. He started digging it out but that ceased after a day. He's had probably 20 nice days where he wasn't working that he could have done it. Even tells me he could finish it in a day. Yet every time I come home form work all he's done its sit and play his video game and drink beer. Tells me all he wants to do is chill out on his days off. So why do you say you'll work on the pond day after day, not to mention keep telling me you need to fix both our trucks and never do it? Then the rainy season will start soon and he'll say "Well I guess I can't work on the pond now due to the crappy weather. Thanks summer!" Like he never had the opportunity up until that point to do it and now he can't!
2) We went out 2 Wednesday's ago and didn't get home until about 11:30 that night. He goes on the computer onto Facebook and sends his daughter a message saying "Want to go to sushi?". That's it. Keep in mind that she is 3 1/2 hours away and he hasn't seen her in over 2 months. He is also somewhat drunk and probably thought this was a great thing to say. He didn't tell me he wrote her this, I just snooped on his Facebook as I often do. She responds the following morning "Sounds good. Do you want to go to the same place we did last time you came down?" He goes "Sure" and then says "I'll try and come down this weekend, but if not then definitely next weekend." He had to work that entire weekend so I don't know why he even said that. He had the following weekend off so I thought he'd go down then. Nope. Didn't go down, didn't tell me he even planned on it, and never even told her he wasn't going to come down. There hasn't been any communication since that last message about him coming down.
3) Last Thursday it was extremely hot. Too hot to cook. He got home and said "What's for dinner?" I said "Why don't we order a pizza?" He said "That sounds great!" About 20 minutes later I hop on the laptop to order it and he comes out and says "What ARE you doing?" really sarcastically. I say "I'm ordering the pizza we talked about. Is that OKAY??" He goes "I don't think pizza is going to cut it. It's too hot for that". You JUST told me pizza sounded great and now you act like I'm out of my mind for ordering it! I go "Okay what if I make some macaroni salad?" He shrugged his shoulders and said "Whatever." I said "Well what would you prefer?" He goes "Whatever you want to eat". I will eat whatever, YOU are the one who had a hissy fit about the pizza YOU previously said sounded great!"
Why on earth do they say these things? They obviously have no plans of every following through!
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