Recently my husband (who has diagnosed ADD and is on Strattera) and I have been seeing a marriage counselor for over a year who specializes in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), whom I engaged because we needed someone who could explain emotions without using emotions words (which he doesn't understand) and she said she could. She's suggesting my husband has features of Asperger's (AS) - not being able to connect emotionally, not able to validate emotions, not reading non-verbal signals, and other symptoms. I realize that because she works with ASD, she is attuned to AS symptoms, but I'm wondering if ADD can look like AS - it's very confusing to sort out. I know the only way to diagnose it to psychological testing, but he did this not that long ago for his ADD diagnosis (5 years ago at age 53). I'd like to hear from anyone else who has this dual-diagnosis in their household. After 30 years of marriage, with 20 of them focused on improving the marriage, I am only now getting a handle on what the real problems. I'm on the brink of divorce, but working to create a good co-parenting relationship moving forward. Four grown children, youngest 18. Would love to hear how others have handled similar situation. Thanks, Emme
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- ADD, Asperger's Syndrome, or both? by: Emmeline 9 years 4 months ago
- Frustrated ! by: SaritG 9 years 4 months ago
My husband has severe adhd. We got married last August and we love each other so much. Before we got married I knew he ran late to things and wasn't very responsible, but I thought it would be okay. In the first few months of our marriage he barely got up in the morning before 11 or 12 for classes (He's in engineering school). There are all sorts of problems like getting places on time, and he is a big procrastinator. He is in school and he started his first year this year and he is failing because he didn't do the homeworks or go much to classes. He said that he wants to only be an engineer, but he doesn't use his time well. We started to see an ADHD specialist and a marriage counselor. It is helping a little with tasks around the house which he never used to do and he is getting up better, but the time issues and school work is driving me crazy. I am also in school and I work a lot! He is also very lethargic and has sleep issues. I want him to fulfil his dream of being an engineer, but how can that happen? I am scared about my our future. He constantly says he wants to change and he does make process, but it's not stable. I am so stressed. I also have ADHD but way different, mainly through organization and the coach has helped me and I have improved a lot. Any adivce?
- IM FREE :) LIBERATED by: coco8712 9 years 4 months ago IM BACK PEOPLES:)I BEEN BUSY WITH LIFE MANY NEW CHANGES FOR COCO8712!
- At what point do we begin to FEEL better? by: dedelight4 9 years 4 months ago
Maybe this is another dumb question, and maybe can't be answered quickly, but here goes. At what point do those of us who are married to ADHD'ers (who are trying to get better) actually FEEL better about OURSELVES? (ESPECIALLY after so many YEARS of living with them UN-treated and UN-diagnosed and under-diagnosed and under-treated?)
- Poor decision making. Please help. by: Solitarycyclist 9 years 4 months ago
I realized today that "poor decision making" is a character trait that has negatively affected me for all of my 61 years. (I am male and on ADHD medication). Example of how this plays out with my wife of 37 years: She likes plants, gardens, flowers, etc. in our yard. When I am: weed eating, using 'Round-Up,' or cutting the grass, I often get so close to the garden, plants, etc. that I kill or damage plants. My wife is at her 'wits end' because she feels like I do this on purpose to hurt her. Today, after another incident, I realized that these acts are a result of my "poor thinking and decision making." I know in my mind not to get too close to a plant, but my thoughts focus on getting the area as clean as possible and as close as possible to the plant. Then, of course, I get too close, cause damage, feel terrible myself, and send my wife into orbit with the anger and frustration of these events happening again.
Another area that frustrates me with my poor decision making happens when I need to, or want to, buy an item. I obsess over which model/style to buy, procrastinate making the purchase, and usually after making the purchase I am filled with "Buyers Remorse." Should have bought a different model, or should have bought sooner, or shouldn't have bought at all, etc.
Can you suggest help for my "poor decision making" please?
- HELP NEED non ADD SPOUSE THERAPIST FOR ME IN ATL, GA to by: BFFJ 9 years 4 months ago
- ADHD and the partner that bores them by: Faded and borin... 9 years 4 months ago
I met this women almost a year ago. I seemed relieved finally could put up with my ADHD and non ADHD idiosyncrasies. I was the typical ADHD attention seeker for the first couple of months. The downside is that she was pretty clueless about some of the day to day events and had problems with interpreting what people were interacting with her. Even her daughter took advantage of her. I became her advisor of sorts, me and my impulsive behavior and disorganization. I would analyze the interactions with her daughter and she followed them and their relationship seems to have improved. Other events like helping her to quit smoking I helped her in the process. Don't get me wrong i wasn't perfect. I felt pity for her that she was oblivious to the things going on around her and continues analyze things and life events with a faulty logic. She doesn't acknowledge me verbally a lot of times when I speak with even a simple ok I hear you. I get plenty of affection and all of that. I feel like we are on different pages or even different books. I suppose I could attribute our differences by me growing up as a child of an alcoholic mother and divorced and remarrying parents living in the city whereas she grew up in a small town with sort of distant parents. Overall in conversation I have a lot more to say where she doesn't talk near as much. She is working on her PhD in Nursing. I have 2 Bachelors degrees along with some grad experience. I don't know what to do after so many failed relationships someone that respects my intelligence and my ideas and my problematic behavior like loing my license for excessive driving violations including driving 100 in a 55 mph zone. She doesn't say or do anything remotely interesting to me.
- What Should Be and Unresolved Anger by: kellyj 9 years 4 months ago
I wanted to make some observations about this topic and compare them to myself and my past vs present. I think two things happen when we have expectations of what "should be" and then it doesn't happen: 1) we are disappointed and 2) we (can) get angry if we never seem to get what we expect. The question becomes...where do these expectations come from in the first place? How did we arrive at these expectations and why do we have them? Where does the concept of things that "should be" originate and is this even realistic in the first place. No one can predict the future or know what another person thinks or feels unless they tell you and to that end....you really have no control of anyone except yourself at the end of all things. All you can do is trust what another person says they are going to do, but at any time.....people including you also have the ability to change their mind anytime they choose.
For me....I had a situation at home with two parents who were big on the way things "should be" and most of "should be" came from someone or something else not them. My mother was really big on predicting the future for everyone in our family. I can't tell you how many times I heard a sentence begin with "when you grow up, XXX will happen" or "when you are older like me, you will be XXX". I can tell you, she really sucked at fortune telling and should have kept her day job as a housewife since nearly all of her predictions did not ever happen with me.....like 99% wrong in my case. For my mother, this came from an extremely overbearing and controlling mother (hers) who had to control everything all the time every second of the day. What I witnessed appeared to me as someone who was completely out of control in all things and had no idea what was really happening around her. As these things tend to go.
So what "should be" never seemed to happen with my Grandmother and she was always angry that nothing ever seemed to be what she predicted it to be. She had placed so many controls on everything that she was even trying to the control the future and everyone else in it by trying to maneuver everyone into position in preparation for her predicted future of what "should be." The problem came when these things didn't happen which only made her more angry and more controlling than the last failed prediction in her idea or story of future predictions and expectations of how things should be, how people should be but most importantly and in reality...how she herself really was. That's the bottom line. If you only have control of yourself and you aren't happy with where you are and how you ended up at any given time...who can you really blame but yourself. Every day you get out of bed in the morning, you have to take every step no matter where you go unless someone hog ties you and carries you against your will. I think that would qualify as kidnapping if I'm not mistaken? Anyway.. the older my Grandmother got, the angrier and more bitter she became and it all came from the fact that her expectations or what she favorably insisted on how things "should be" be actually never happened however...a lot of things really did happen everyday but I guess for my Grandmother....she could only see the things that did not happen that were supposed to be. What she did do a lot of was complain most of the time about her life and how it was everyone else's fault that the things that were supposed to happen (how things should be) didn't happen because somehow,all these people had somehow prevented this from happening. I don't think my Grandmother realized how much time she spent preparing for how things should be instead of using that time to experience the things that were.....in the present time that is.
And as these things go, these things were supplanted into my mothers head too and she carried the torch of her mother in the same way. When I came into the picture.....I was born for one purpose in my families life. To disprove every idea or thought of how things "should be" by doing them differently and actually succeeding most of the time. No matter what is was.....I always found a different way of getting there but many times compared to my mother or her mother for example....I actually go there.
How did I do this you ask? I did it because no one expected me too and I had very few expectations of myself since no one else did after a while. I can tell you that this became one of my favorite passive aggressive strategies and I enjoyed this immensely while I was growing up when I could find a way to do something that my parents could not do themselves. Actually with my mother for example, she never tried to do anything that was not included in her mind of how things "should be"
It easy to see how this reversal of fortune and even within my passive aggressive attitude actually played out to my benefit with a negative becoming a positive after all things were said and done. Because no one expected me to do things.....I actually found a way to do them. I myself was not part of the way things "should be" so therefor....I was free of this trap in thinking and instead of having expectations, I just tried things to see if they would work. Sometimes they did and sometimes they didn't, but I least I tried them in the first place and was not particularly disappointed when things didn't work out. Actually...the expectation of me was that things would not work out so there was nothing to be disappointed or even angry with in the first place. It does free you up to explore and experiment if there are no expectations and your frustration level and corresponding anger is kept to a bare minimum under these conditions.
If you are already at the bottom....you really have only one option in a direction that you can go.....UP. Everything is a success under these conditions! lol For what it's worth....I adopted this kind of attitude a means of surviving a situation that was almost completely intolerable since the concept of what should be and the expectations that come from this were never going to happen in the first place. It was simply impossible since no one can really predict the future after all:)
J
- are ADHD people sick more often? by: dvance 9 years 4 months ago
This is not a sarcastic question--is there some corollary between ADHD and physical ailments? I know that ADHD people are more prone to accidents and injuries due to impulsive, risk taking behavior--that I can totally see not only in DH but in my kids, both of whom have ADHD too. What I am talking about is physical complaints, ailments, aches and pains. In the past 20 years I cannot tell you how many aches and pains DH complains about. I am sure it is not a daily thing, but it seems like it. Headaches, upset stomach, arthritis (not diagnosed), kink in his neck, cramp in his leg (hence a limp) the list seems to go on and on. He has been hospitalized several times and had many surgeries--carpal tunnel in both wrists, some ankle thing I can't even remember, but now that ankle acts up a lot, 18 inches of colon removed due to diverticulitis, broken wrist, elbow, broken teeth. It's always something. Since December DH has traveled for work Monday mornings until Friday afternoons and if I speak to him at night there's usually a complaint--he's exhausted because he didn't sleep well, he was up all night with a migraine, he was up all night with an upset stomach, he is exhausted because it was so hot wherever he is and the heat just took it out of him. Now, this is a man who was in the Air Force. How can he be that delicate? Is is part of the low self esteem, attention getting? need for drama? need to be the center of attention? I have been hospitalized exactly twice-to give birth to each boy. I had a miscarriage after son #2 and had to have a procedure to take care of that and I can tell you it was awful and yet...came home and carried on the same day. I had three impacted wisdom teeth dug out without anesthetic and drove myself home. Not that I never get sick, that's not what I mean, but geez-does anyone else notice more than average physical complaints from their ADHD spouse? Just curious.
- New here... In need of advice ASAP by: UKGirl14 9 years 4 months ago
I just made this account now after trying to find help & info online. So, here's my ''story''...
I've been with my boyfriend for 1 year and it's long distance. Problem is.. I just don't understand what he expects from me regarding his anger issues caused by ADHD. He gets so angry over little things, so I try to explain my side but he just flips out, expecting me to take it. And I do, mostly.. I just don't know when I need to back off because he can't help it, or when he's actually being mean and I need to stand up for myself.
I'm sick of saying sorry when it wasn't even me that did anything bad. Any time I get mad at something, he says I'm doing it on purpose to provoke him. But when I'm being accused of wanting to leave him for someone else, not caring about him, and being told I can't have male friends without it making him mad, of course I react. I didn't use to.. I would reassure him in the nicest way possible, but after a year of these constant problems, I can't hold my temper all of the time.
He says I don't understand his ADHD, and to be honest he's right. Because he doesn't explain anything to me. The things I find out online only help to a certain extent. He says I need to speak to his parents to learn how to control him.. Basically he just expects me to control him and put up with his anger instead of him recognising what he's doing. I do understand he can't help it, but sometimes he seems to use it as an excuse so he can act however he wants and I get the blame for not knowing how to deal with it.
I don't even know if any of this makes sense, because I'm so out of my depth with this...