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  • How to tell him he has ADHD by: Tanya2244 9 years 8 months ago

    My therapist has just (un-officially) diagnosed my husband as having ADHD. She recognized the signs because her husband has it.

    How do I tell him about this diagnosis without hurting his feelings or making him feel like we were ganging up on him in my last therapy session?

    I love him, but I think he needs to know why he does what he does so we can start working on dealing with the issues.

     

  • Fill in one hole, but make a new one trying to fill the first one by: NoSaxOnTheBeach 9 years 8 months ago

    I'm very recently married, and I have been diagnosed with ADHD since I was 4(now 26). I met my wife 3 years ago, and we've had a rocky relationship for a majority but we managed to keep things together, even if its with duck tape and super glue. Like I said, we've both known about my ADHD since the beginning, but I've only been back on medication(adderall) for about 5 months now. Only recently did we find this book and this website. We've had similar issues as most of the posts that I've seen on here, and looking at the books "hotspots", they summed up 80-90% of our fights. I feel like this book and this community will be my saving grace, and thusly our hail mary to save our relationship.

    As I mentioned, our relationship has been held together with duck tape and super glue. What I mean by this is that we've been in and out of therapists(personal and couples), I've read books( Love Languages, Co Dependent No more, Lost art of Listening, Boundaries in Marriage), and its always been like a patch on the leak that is our love. It works for a little while, but then when the pressures on, it breaks. I feel completely responsible for all of our unhappiness, but it just feels like when I start to make progress, I slip up in some way(be it small or big... usually small) and all the fears, insecurities, and hurt comes flooding back to my wife, and I'm knocked back down to square 1. She's tried setting boundaries, punishing, consequences, incentives, sex, no sex, etc. to get me to "shape up, and stay in shape" but despite my best efforts, I fall short of making her happy long enough for her to let go of the past. I am completely devoted to her, and I have noticed that I have the "high tolerance for pain" because regardless of what she does, the consequences don't stick. I feel miserable, sure, but apparently it isn't enough for the things we talk about to "sink in". I am working very hard to rebuild the trust that has been stripped away by all the lies and broken promises, but I can't seem to get any footing long enough to get moving. It also feels like there are so many "holes" I need to repair, that by the time I turn my attention to a new one, I seem to let go of the patch before it sets, and the old problem starts leaking again. 

    She also has a vicious temper. We grew up in much different environments. For one, she's a strong Type A, and I'm a typical Type B. For two, my family was the type to not talk about grievances and to bottle the emotions up and ignore them until they go away. I never saw my parents fight, until the night they decided to divorce, which was a huge fight and screaming match. They were both drunk and my father actually approached me when I was 9 and asked who I wanted to live with. On the flip-side, my wife grew up in a household where no one bottled up anything. If someone had an issue, they had no qualms about laying it all out right then and there. I've been a bystander to many screaming matches between sisters and children/parents. This was completely foreign to me and just screamed disrespect, which is a lesson my dad literally beat into me. You don't disrespect your parents. This gives a little insight to how we both approach conflict. I'm very conservative, if I bring up issues at all, and she is not against having a list of my flaws and faults at the ready for any given moment. She says hurtful things when she's mad. Tells me she hates me and that she knew the day of the wedding that it was a mistake. These are the moments where I lose my temper and recently lost control and punched a hole in the drywall as I stormed down the hallway away from the bedroom. This is completely unlike me. I'm very laid back normally and not easily excitable, but in those moments, i just see red, and that is another one of my issues. I struggle greatly recognizing emotions within myself. 

    We've had this book for about a month now, and I'm about to start my 2nd time through it to make sure I get the information to sink in, but it feels like my wife isn't giving me the room and/or time necessary to fix these issues. She says she is tired of being patient and that she has sacrificed so much of herself to get to this point, but I don't know how to ask her to give me more time. I'm doing the best that I can with the availability I have.(I'm in my senior year of accounting and working 2 jobs to try to even out the load of bills because she's basically supporting me with her salary while I finish school). It also feels like she isn't really taking to heart the tactics expressed for the non-adhd partner. This point, I can understand honestly, because through all of our time together, she has been feeling more and more pressure and stress from my lack of symptom management. There were parts in this book that made me bawl to think about how much I put her through with ADHD. I can understand her hesiation to trust and rely on me and the constant expectation for the other shoe to drop when I'm experiencing a good time and successful at meeting her needs as a good husband. I totally get it, I really do, but it still hurts all the same. Having her expecting me to fail, doesn't instill confidence in me. Sorry for the essay. I just really don't know what else to do. I REALLY need help and advice on how to get her to give me time to grow into a better husband. 

  • ADHD Catch 22 by: bobbybigdrum 9 years 8 months ago

    Hi,

    Any advice, thoughts, or comments, whether agreeable or harsh will be GREATLY valued. I am a big boy I can take it!

    Here is a snapshot of my life

    38 yr old ADHD (take adderrall) Father and Husband (2 kids 2yr,/ 4yr old)

    4 yr old was born with Kidney Disease and needs a transplant (devastating, sad, I literally cant look at pictures of him without sobbing, he is my best friend n the world)

    Diagnosed with ADHD in early 30's but suffered with inconsistency my whole life / school / work / relationships etc.

    High IQ, for whatever that is worth, hasn't helped much until lately

    Until three years ago, struggled to hold down a career, made marginal income

    3 Years ago found a highly technical career that I love. My ADHD helped me to quickly learn massive amounts of technical info I needed to succeed.

    The job enabled my wife to stay home full time with the children.

    The job is also overwhelming, intense, and their are difficult quotas that must be met, so I spend a lot of time working . 55 hrs a week average swells to 70+ hrs during a 3 month peak industry period.

    Since starting the career, and before as well, I have consistently battled suicidal ideation, contemplated divorce, running away and sleeping on a beach somewhere, you name it.

    Our marriage is falling apart, our kids, particularly my sick son needs us more than anything, but all we do is bicker and look at each other with resentment.

    Obviously from the above statements, my ADHD brain, in conjunction with a couple of external issues are doing a number on our marriage.

     

    OK. where am I going with this??? 

    I fully understand that ADHD makes marriage, at the least, more difficult. I cant help but notice while reading this forum, many non-ADHD spouses are not willing to take responsibility for character flaws they bring to a marriage.

    You can probably guess that I have my own thought on the things my wife does that are frustrating things for me.

    How do you know when an issue with your marriage is purely the result of your ADHD solely? a combination of your wife's and your own character flaws? or can solely be attributed to your wife's character flaws?

    I know for sure a lot of the wife's of ADHDers slandering their husbands on this site would benefit from  cleaning  their own doorstep as well.

  • Do your friends/family understand? by: Vivien 9 years 8 months ago

    Anyone else here feel like friends/family have absolutely no clue what we deal with, or think we are being petty or exaggerating?  I was just talking to a friend who's husband is an alcoholic.  She is trying to get him to go to AA and to get help for depression.  We were talking and it finally dawned on her what I have been going through.  We both realized how similar our situations are.  Until this conversation, I think she thought I was just bitching and moaning about a perfectly nice husband.  I get the impression from family that they think I am really hard on my husband.  He is an incredibly sweet person who does whatever I tell him to do.  But they see it as me bossing him around.  They don't see that if I don't tell him what he needs to do, that it won't ever get done. 

    I have learned over the years to keep his ineptness on the down low or I just come off looking like an evil witch.  Feels like I am hiding the fact that my husband has a neurological disorder and that I am doing the best I can to survive within it.

  • Has your (or your partner's) ADHD got worse with age? by: GailT 9 years 8 months ago

    If you've noticed a difference with age, do you think this is a truly age only related change, period. Or a change brought about by increased life stress for example or some other change that just happens to have started in later life?

     

  • What Happens When an ADHD BF Breaks Up by Disappearing? (aka Ghosting) by: jenna-ADD 9 years 8 months ago

    Like many non-ADHDers, I was the subject of hyperfocused dating by my ADHD partner (who I did not know at the time had ADHD). Within a month he said he loved me, wanted me to meet his family, etc.

    I began to notice many symptoms of ADHD (angry rants, easily frustrated, drifting off in conversations, etc)... and asked him on several occasions if he had it. He would either change the subject or ignore my question. He did admit one time that he would never take meds and "doesn't need to talk to anyone", so that tells me he must've done so at some point and had a negative experience. We eventually planned on going on vacation together, and just a week prior he was still telling me he loved me... then he simply disappeared. Stopped answering texts/phone calls. 

    I only confirmed for sure that he had ADHD because I began to get suspicious, and Googled him and found old articles from his early adult days that reported on his petty crimes (theft, vandalism) which were attributed to his depression/ADHD. (The courts ordered a psych eval and he was given a lighter sentence in combination with rehab/anger management therapy.)

    The "ghosting" came at about the 3 month mark in the relationship. I'm not sure if this was just an abrupt end of his hyperfocus, or if he became squeamish at my persistent asking about his ADHD. I'd texted him a few times since, and know that he's gotten them (my iPhone says they were "delivered" so I am assuming he hasn't blocked or deleted me... yet). I wrote to tell him I know everything... his criminal past, his depression/ADHD, etc. and that it did not change how I felt about him, and that I accept him the way he is. Still, no response.

    My question is, does the end of hyperfocus mean you're just dead to them? That whatever feelings they had for you weren't real? That they just feel nothing for you now? For him having gone out of his way to avoid the ADHD topic when pressed tells me he's pretty embarrassed/ashamed of being found out. I admit we had some spats over him not following through on promises, drifting off during conversations, talking too much/not at all (to which he once replied "geez, you tell me i talk too much/too loud one minute and the next minute you're saying i'm too quiet... I just can't win with you!")... but that was all before I read several books/blogs on what ADHD actually is, and had no idea. I do feel bad for not being as understanding and patient as I could have been, and I feel I would have been had I known... so I do feel perhaps him disappearing is partially my fault for being too harsh on him when I didn't know. 

    So what do I do now? Should I keep trying to attempt to connect and have a dialogue with him? Should I just let it go? I care so deeply for this person (as someone who also has suffered from depression on and off), but I don't know if the whole thing was just a moment of hyperfocus for him and it wasn't real or if he's retreating because he's hurt by my handing of his behavior/ADHD disclosure. Is breaking up with someone via "ghosting" a common tactic among ADHDers? I'm really hurt he chose this action. Even if were to angrily tell me off and break up with me, that would have been better than "ghosting" and feeling like you're just discarded like garbage. 

    -Feeling Lost

  • Worn Out by: WifeOfThor 9 years 8 months ago

    I'm not really sure where to start here; and I'll keep it as short as I can. My husband and I have been together for almost 10 years now. He had ADHD when I met him and was largely under medicated and completely under treated. A few years ago he made the independent choice to work with his doctor to get medicated in a way that worked for him. Since then we've made great strides together. ADHD has never exactly been the focal point of arguments and tension but it does tend to be lurking in most arguments we have. I bought The Couples Guide to Thriving With ADHD a few months ago. Once I finished it I asked if my husband would like to look at it. He said he would and is slowly working through it now as well as far as I know. Every now and then he'll excitedly tell me about something he's read and how he things we can apply it. It's wonderful. This has been helping to eliminate many of the issues we didn't realize were connected to ADHD in our relationship.

    Recently household chores are becoming huge problems though. House cleaning has always been a hard one for us in general. I think it's lucky I'm not much of a clean freak. So the messy nature of our home isn't world ending for me. In fact, if the mess is "clean" (as in no health concerns, minimal dust bunnies, no mold on anything) I don't mind at all. What does bother me is the extent it gets to and why. I'd like to explain; my husband is a kind and wonderful person. He doesn't like seeing me flit around the house and take on the chores alone. But his ADHD is severe and he finds himself playing video games while I clean instead. This doesn't often bother me; though sometimes it does and will lead to tension - but not often. His current inability to focus and help me clean the house does bother him though; and that leads to self inflicted guilt and then outbursts at times. Sometimes those outbursts catch me off guard and I react unfairly and the argument is off the races. Though we're lucky here too - they rarely get intentionally hurtful.

    The most recent solution he's asserted to this problem is asking me to please leave him a task or two when I decide to clean. Because his ADHD makes looking at a messy room and finding the correct place for the items strewn about it a frustrating process; we agreed that I would leave him things in the kitchen. This way he can do the dishes or clear the counters, all items are either garbage or belong in the kitchen itself (or can be put on a table for me to go through later) and everyone would seem to win. This brings us to my issues; what is wearing me out.

    Right now, as I type this, almost all of our commonly used dishes are dirty in my kitchen sink. We have a dishwasher - it's full of clean dishes. The last three times I've cleaned I've let him know I'm going to clean the house. Ask if he'd like to join me. He's said no, which is acceptable based the new system we are trying. So I let him know I would be leaving the dishes for him to do when he could. And for the third time I find myself faced with the choices of A). asking him to please hold up his end of the deal for a third time and potentially lead us into more tension around cleaning. B). take care of the dishes myself because they are bothering me (and I believe I'm responsible for my own happiness and comfort - not him). This I could do; but past experience raises some caution - this has caused arguments or hurt feelings in the past as well). Or C). I can sit him down, remind him of the agreement we have, and ask him if a new plan should be made. This has also caused hurt feelings and tension in the past.

    Truthfully, I don't like to clean either. I understand I'm able to push through that more easily than he can for very valid reasons. While I don't mind the house messy things like dishes and taking out the garbage go beyond messes in my mind. These are dirt problems and I do like to live in a clean environment.

    I'm feeling very stuck right now. I'm proud of both of us for working as hard as we have to improve our disagreements. We take a break and revisit the discussion when things are getting too heated, recently put a trigger word in place to tell each other we need to step back, we both make an effort to maintain respect through disagreement at all times, all that jazz. But  I'm finding I'm feeling almost helpless within this discussion structure. My focused intent not to cause, prolong, or exasperate an argument will often leave me silently shouldering a lot of our responsibilities. Which is not say my husband doesn't contribute. He does.

    I'd like to be clear here; I think this is my issue not his. The dishes in my sink are his issue; we've made a plan, we both agreed to it, it hasn't worked, he's resisted changing the plan and resists following it. In my eyes this is something for him to work on. My hesitance and anxiety about approaching him and telling him this is how I feel is my issue. And I'm unsure how I can get past it.

    I guess I'm posting for two reasons: I'd love to see any thoughts/ideas/proven methods others may have for this kind of struggle over household chores. I'm sure there are many approaches I'm simply not seeing and one of them will work; eventually. I'm also wondering if anyone might have tips as far as communicating my frustrations to my husband in a way that may avoid him feeling overly guilty? Many times (not every time) we'll sit down and try to make plans or set up systems that might help us and he feels guilt over us having to do this. That guilt leads to a defensive attitude and I react very unfairly and things spiral. I feel like there must be a way to communicate with him when I'm feeling overwhelmed without us both reacting unfairly to the other.

  • Conflict Seeking? by: AlphabetSoup 9 years 8 months ago

    I don't know if "conflict seeking" is the right way to describe this  or not.

    I don't even know if it's his problem, my problem, or a mutual problem.

    Basically, every discussion, every disagreement, and every expression of negative emotion on my part--  it all turns into a fight.  Zero to yelling in 10 setconds flat. 

    In 16 years, I haven't been able to find a way out. 

    If I state my opinion, it's an argument.

    If I advocate for my point of view, I'm being controlling and aggressive and it's an argument. 

    If I try to guess his opinion, I'm being a people-pleaser, and it's an argument.

    If I try to extract his opinion so I can agree with it, I'm being passive-aggressive and it's an argument.

    If I talk about negative emotions (anger, fear, sadness, grief, hopelessness), I shouldn't feel that way, and it's an argument.

    If I talk to someone else about negative emotions instead, that's emotional adultery, and it's an argument.

    If I just don't talk, that's withholding, and passive-aggression, and it's an argument. 

    If I just don't react, that's withholding, and passive-aggression, and it's an argument. 

    Short of smiling all the time and making lots of smalltalk, there is NOTHING I CAN DO that isn't going to turn into an argument (and smalltalk isn't safe either; sooner or later I will make a mistake that can be turned into an argument). 

    This has always been taxing.  Several years ago, I got so tired of it that I decided to just do the submissive wife thing.  Smile all the time, always be available for sex, make no demands of him, keep all my feelings to myself, jump to meet every request, not pursue any interest that wasn't in his immediate service, say "YES" to everything.  I enjoyed the NOT ARGUING.  After about 5 years of that, I had a complete nervous breakdown.  Which was, of course, my fault.  And AN ARGUMENT that has been ongoing since 2011 (when I finally ended up in the hospital wanting to kill myself). 

    I'm a nervous wreck.  I can't go back to being a submissive wife again (he won't allow it--  now it has to turn into an argument even if I say "YES" to everything).  I can't handle everything being an argument any more.  The mere thought of having to speak unless I'm saying something like, "I love you honey" or "What do you want for breakfast honey?" makes me shaky and sick to my stomach. 

    Either the arguments have to stop, or we have to separate. 

    And separating isn't an option.  Our kids are too little, and it's common knowledge that either I would relinquish all parental rights and walk away or it would be the custody battle from Hell. 

    ETA--  Self-awareness on his part isn't going to happen.  I KNOW how painful self-awareness can be for the variously disordered (I'm an Aspie--  I would love to stop being obsessively self-aware every waking moment, but I understand that that is something I must never, ever allow myself to do b/c The Beast Autism will slip it's leash if I relax my guard).  I would NEVER wish that pain on him.  Plus, as painful as constant obsessive self-awareness is for me, at least I had the blessing of a loving, supportive, basically emotionally healthy family growing up.  He didn't.  He was subjected to an almost total lack of support and constant and unending low-to-moderate level verbal and emotional abuse.  His self-esteem, while it looks great on the outside, is a fragile and hollow shell.  He could never sustain self-awareness without completely and totally crashing.

    If there's going to be a change that stops the arguments, I'm going to have to be the one to make it. 

  • Need some advice on credit card and spending.... by: Suda 9 years 8 months ago

    Hi there, I haven't posted in a while, but I have something I am struggling with on how best to approach my ADHD husband. After years of fighting over impulse purchases, my husband opened a credit card with separate checking account. It is funded with a percentage of any bonus checks he receives from work. It is not the ideal solution for me, but he really likes it and I have to say that we haven't fought since it has been in place for a year. In the past, we fought a lot over his purchases because I thought many of them were unnecessary. I couldn't believe that our hard-earned money was being spent on hobbies that we only do once a year or a fish tank. The deal is that he will give me a print out each month of the credit card paid receipt (not statement) that the card was paid in full. He usually also prints out what his checking account balance is as well.  He was late this month so when I approached him with an email. We do better in writing than trying to discuss heavy topics like this verballly. He replied that same day that the automatic minimum pay kicked in. I am thinking in my head "great no late fees, but picking up interest charges on a credit card balance." He once told me that if he didn't pay the balance and wished to use his money on interest charges then that is his prerogative. Anyways, I politely replied with I would like a printout of his current the credit card and checking account balances. He has yet to respond or acknowledge my request so now I am not sure what I should do next. Part of me is scared to talk to him in person - there is never a good time to approach on such a delicate subject. Anyone have advice for me? I have no access to either account online. 

  • Introduce Myself by: AlphabetSoup 9 years 8 months ago

    Hi.  I'm new.

    My husband is the ADHD spouse, but I don't get to call myself the "NT spouse."

    Nope--  I'm the spouse with Level 1 Autism Spectrum Disorder. 

    We've been together since 98, married since 01.  Fourteen years next month. 

    Four kids.  Daughter 13, thriving and presumed to be NT (suspected "Broader Autism Phenotype," but I'm not pursuing anything if it's not causing her problems).  Son 7, diagnosed ADHD, currently not struggling enough to warrant medication.  Daughter 5, suspected ADHD, but not going to pursue a diagnosis unless it causes problems at school.  Daughter 2 years 8 months, too young to suspect anything but I'm starting to wonder.  She moves and climbs and fidgets constantly.  She CAN speak but strongly prefers not to. 

    Fourteen years of assuming it was all my problem, that all the problems were my fault, that every issue was because of my disorder and therefore my responsibility to fix. 

    He's a good man; he does a good job.  He's been consistently employed ever since he got out of college.  Bills get paid and groceries get bought before he spends any money impulsively.  He is not an alcoholic, or a compulsive gambler.  He does love his "retail therapy," but like I said, bills get paid and groceries get bought first, and we don't keep credit cards, so it's done on a cash basis.  I got no complaints. 

    He even contributes to housework if it's necessary.  Not that it's strictly necessary--  I get to be a SAH.  If I have to do 99.7% of the housework, that's called carrying my weight. 

    Still, I'm mentally and emotionally exhausted and FED UP. 

    Mostly I'm tired of every disagreement, every conflict, and every expression of negative emotion (whether it relates to and/or involves him or not) erupting into an argument. 

    I've tried everything.  For the first five years, we fought it out.  That got old.  For the next three years, I tried talking to other people about any negative feelings or "off" opinions I might have.  That was emotional adultery.  For the next five years, I tried doing the submissive wife thing.  That blew up in a huge way--  I resented the submission, he resented the responsibility, checks and balances disappeared, and communication died.  Since then, we're back to fighting it out.  It wore on me in our early 20s--  now approaching 40 and a complete nervous breakdown later, I CAN'T HANDLE FIGHTING IT OUT ANY MORE. 

    It saps my energy, makes me hate myself, and stresses me out so badly that I shake constantly and can't think straight. 

    I'm not asking him to change.  He's not even aware of what he's doing.  He suffered constant low-level emotional abuse from both parents all through childhood and his self-image is too fragile to sustain self-awareness. 

    Short of finding a cure for the condition formerly known as Asperger's (outside my control--  I can try to control it, but I can't make it go away any more than he can make ADHD disappear or any more than either of us can magically become left-handed), what do *I* need to change to bring peace back to our domicile????

    What forum does this belong in??

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