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  • Long weekend... by: CosmicJoke 9 years 8 months ago

    File under "rant"--no obligation to comment. What could be said anyway?

    THURSDAY:  1. Having made the mistake of asking DH for help when younger son is suddenly on crutches, this has devolved over the last month into him sorta moving back, mostly arriving late to pick son up from school, and generally messing up anything I am stupid enough--in my overwhelmed state--to ask him to do for his son. On Thursday morning, this culminates in my finding he's blown off getting paperwork done for an upcoming school trip, which husband "solves" in front of me by making another one of his rambling/incoherent/half-informed phone calls on the guidance counselor's voicemail. When I try (gently, I swear) to get his attention so he can ask the correct questions, he snarls at me to "cut to the chase". Yes, I finally lose it. I ask him to move back out, so I can have some peace. 2. That night, there is some commotion in the apartment hallway--but I sleep through it, as do both my sons.

    FRIDAY: 1. Awake to several drunken phone messages from DH--apparently he was drunk outside the door, begging to be let in. (He has a key, but locked himself out of his office; the doorman could've let him in but he was either too ashamed or not thinking to ask; he called me several times, but didn't call either son...) The messages are tearful, apologetic of "all he's put me through" and actually announce this is his "rock bottom". While trying to get my youngest out to school (and an uber cab), I call husband. He is downstairs ready to take son to school! Having slept in his car, still drunk, and now abusive to me. I am afraid he might kill someone, so I take all this guff while pleading for him not to drive off, but instead to come up to the apartment to sleep it off. He does, finally...I go to work. 2) I come home from work and notice he has a black eye. I have never seen a person with a black eye, despite my own ragtag upbringing. Truth: It is a shocking sight. I gently wake him by going about my business, and tell him it is his choice...but if he does not want his kids to see him like that, he has about an hour to clean up and leave. He does.

    SATURDAY: 1. I get three emails thanking me for being so wonderful, from different women I've given career help to...this kind of dissonance, between outside life and turmoil at home is always so jarring. 2. I get an email from younger son's school for ADHD/Dyslexic kids, telling me son has started lying again about homework and is about to tank his Junior year of H.S.. 3. I call DH at country house to make sure he is alive. He is grateful I would call, and quite remorseful. Of course, when I say, as I did before, "go to a meeting" there are many reasons why snow makes that impossible. He does tell me he is in the middle of writing me a long letter of apology. I do not respond with interest in this creative writing. 4. Younger son and I have a pretty calm talk about school--am trying to keep lines of communication open, no matter what. He goes off to do all his make-up homework.

    SUNDAY: 1. I call husband again to make sure he is alive. This time he sounds sober and healthy and full of adrenaline rush ideas about how to keep himself sober. I suggest he "go to a meeting"...he mumbles. Now that he is better, he is not apologetic...rather mean again. And making nonsensical jokes about his bad behavior; I quietly suggest this is not time for jokes.  2. Older son comes home from the job he's working since flunking out of college and being tricked by me into getting employment. He actually seems...happy...which makes me (what is this strange emotion?) happy. We have the best talk in a couple of years about him needing a break from school/executive function challenges and how he will go back when he's ready, but for now, he's in his physical prime and knows so much about skiing and is making enough money pursuing outdoor recreation work. So, I "let go and let god" and "do me" by having a neighbor over. 3. Neighbor and I chat--she's a widower and  I'm whatever it is I am--and we think maybe we'll take a road trip next year. Wow, just thinking about that makes me...smile... 3. As soon as she leaves, younger son reveals he's still lying...that he had another homework due, that he hates school and what's the use. We fight a little--but he is taller than I am, a pent up coil of anger, doing that ADHD emotionality fuming rage thing...so I just rub his shoulders and send him to bed. 4. I cry.

    MONDAY: 1. Wake younger son for school--he is still fuming...so I walk on eggshells and try to stay positive. Relieved he goes to sshool. Consider. for the zillionth time, the family motto, "It could be worse.". 2. Open email. DH has sent me a birthday card. 30 seconds of flower petals, and then it says "Happy Birthday" and is "signed" by our dog. 3. Vent on ADHD website and got to work.

    TUESDAY: And what will happen tomorrow? It's just too exciting to contemplate!

  • After intimacy treatment by: stephanie711 9 years 8 months ago

    So I have noticed a pattern. Each time I have sex with my ADHD husband, he treats me horribly afterwards and the next day. I have reached out to other spouses of partners with ADHD and they experience this also. Why does this happen? As soon as I let myself be vulnerable he gives me this treatment in return (which makes me feel like a piece of trash) and expects me bounce back emotionally and of course physically. Why would anyone want to continue this cycle and have sex only to be treated this way? This is why I do not like to have sex with him, not because of other ADHD symptoms. I keep reading not to take things personally, but this one behavior I cannot push aside and ignore. I deserve love and respect after I allow myself to connect with him. I can find lots info about hyper-sex drive and everything else but I can't find any information on this anywhere. 

  • And tonight is another bad night...... by: overwhelmedwife 9 years 8 months ago

    Today was a good day.  We got some things done, even tho I have a very nasty cold.   

    Tonight, while I was taking a shower, I heard all this swearing.  I knew that H was feeding our dogs and that also means that our diabetic dog will get a shot right after.   We had gotten a brand new Rx for the insulin today.   When I heard the extensive swearing, I could only guess what had happened.  H had dropped the new bottle of insulin and broke it.   While still in the shower, I quickly asked what time it was hoping we could call the pharmacy before it closed.   H yelled at me to "give me time" to find out the time.   ?? he was in the kitchen....there is a clock on the stove and on the microwave!!!!   

     

    Then H screamed at me and asked why I wanted to know the time and I told him why.   He called the pharmacy but it was too late....closed.   Luckily, we still had some insulin left in the "old bottle" which has not yet expired.    H came into the bathroom to YELL AT ME that the pharmacy is closed and that he did call because he always does what I want, and that I never do anything that HE wants.   (omg!)

     

    I didn't reprimand H for not being careful.  I didn't scold him.   I literally said NOTHING about his dropping the bottle to make him feel bad  (ALTHO I have told him MANY times to ONLY handle the bottle while it's above a table or counter, so if it drops, it won't drop far and break.)    We keep the bottles in a padded thermal container in the fridge, so moving the container from fridge to counter is no risk if that were to drop.     . So, once I cleaned up the mess on the floor , it was obvious that H was handling the bottle over the floor (in the middle of the kitchen).   I said nothing because saying anything at that point would be worthless and just make him more angry.

     

    H gave the dog his shot using the old (but still ok) insulin, and then slammed the bedroom door.   Then he came out and said that I get a reprieve for being sick, but that once I'm well, he's going to yell at me because he's still angry at something our son did over 2 years ago.   (this is his old "go to" complaint that he drums up whenever he's upset.)

     

    So....a good day is now ruined because H wasn't careful and dropped/broke the dogs insulin. 

     

    Now...of course, everyone drops things occasionally.   That's why we take extra careful steps when handling special things.  

     

    But, H is frequently dropping/breaking things.  Yesterday, he picked up my coffee cup and dropped it....breaking it.  He has broken 1 iPad, I laptop, and 2 Tablets within 7 months....all due to clumsy behavior....dropping them, stepping on them (after he set his tablet down by the bed, he stepped on it).   He has knocked the mirror off the side of his car, dented the side of our son's car by dropping a heavy object near it, dented the back of my car by backing into something, backed his own car into a mailbox, etc.

     

    He's just not careful (his parents NEVER taught him to be CAREFUL.)  (idiots!)

     

    I knew that as soon as he dropped that insulin and the fact that I wasn't nearby to directly blame, that he would somehow change gears so that he could yell at me.....and he did.

     

  • The product of living w/ Expectations vs Acceptance.... by: c ur self 9 years 8 months ago

    How do you let what you have no control over effect you? If you live with a partner whom you share very little commonality with, you probably already know the answer to my question. Or, do you? Blindness is what I suffered with...She is wrong, I am right.

    I don't know about you but the product of this mindset for me was anger, bitterness and many other emotional misery's to numerous to list....So what is the answer to a peaceful life?  Well, lets use me for the example, since I don't mind offending myself, I've found a dose of reality about myself each morning may taste bad, but it's good medicine for those around me...Ha Ha!....

    First I had to see what my desire to change this person I married was doing to me. What had happened to my emotional state, and just how much of my time was (very unhealthy) spent obsessing over this lifestyle that I viewed as (intrusive, irresponsible and on course to destroy a marriage with so much promise) poison.

    I had to deal with my own life, my own heart, and see myself, this was so hard for me, I had built up a wall of denial and all I could focus on was the emotional and physiological pain I was suffering at the hands of this other person. So, I prayed and trusted, I listened to tapes, I read a few books on marriage, I read books on the effects of ADD/ADHD. We even separated for almost a year...Went to counseling...But I have come (been brought) to a place where a few simple truths of life, is saving my life....

    One is I am not responsible for my wife's action's, words, or thoughts. They in no wise define me or play ANY role in who I am as a man in this life...

    Two I am the husband is this marriage, God has called me to place of leadership and responsibility (Ephesians 5) as his Child, and as her Husband, (to love her as I love myself) and I can never use her (nor does he) actions and words, as an excuse for forsaking my own responsibilities.

    How does this play out in your life,, you my be asking? Well here are few things I can share w/ you...One and the main one is I have got to keep my focus on life, on me to have peace...The moment I start talking to myself about anything to do with her lifestyle, I start digressing....

    Boundaries...I cannot let her inability or unwillingness to be neat :), go somewhere on time, pay bills on time, have self-control in all aspects of life from meals to bed times play a role in my own convictions to being responsible, and for my own well being.

     I don't mean I want do things I wouldn't ordinarily, add does effect my life, you cannot love someone who suffers w/ ADD and not be effected by it, just like she will also be effected by my own issues...But, I refuse to let it dictate my life, and who I am...There is a huge difference between enablement and being used....Vs....loving someone....Accountability is love...not all manifestations of love are pleasurable!

    So in closing, I just want to say this one thing....To know does not give us the ability to perform that that we feel we know.....But, I do want to thank people like Melissa Orlov, Gary Chapman, Gary Thompson, Doctor James Stone, and many others who is giving their lives to help others...Also for the many others who have loved us and prayed for us, and for the men who have spoken truth to me and held me accountable...

    But all the credit for healing of my anger, my bitterness and for the forgiveness of my many sin's against my wife goes to Jesus. Who truly is the living place of eternal peace and rest....:) Blessings Friends....

     

  • He's just not that into me by: PoisonIvy 9 years 8 months ago

    My husband's job for the past almost four years has been as caregiver for his elderly parents.  It began as a four-days per week gig; now he's there full time.  Since starting this arrangement, my husband has almost never called when he is at his parents.  (I'd estimate that he has called fewer than 20 times in the four years.)  HIs mom's health has been deteriorating quite a bit this winter.  I encouraged my husband to get his mom to the doctor (she hadn't even been outside the house n 8 months) to find out what was wrong with her, including whether she'd be eligible for hospice care.  Hospice care:  people coming to the house!  Husband and his dad getting some respite!  I called H two weeks ago, just before the doctor's appointment.  He told me it was good to talk with me and he'd call back the next night.  Of course, he didn't.  I was very curious about what was going on, and also concerned, because he didn't respond to an email I sent yesterday (and resent today) that said "Please acknowledge."  I called him tonight.  His mom is getting hospice services!  Yay!  H didn't thank me; he didn't ask about my life; he didn't ask about our daughters.  He talked about himself and his life.  I asked him if he would tell one of his brothers that I was the one who first suggested getting hospice care for their mom.  I could tell that H's reaction was, "Um, why?"  Well, the reason is that H previously managed to leave this brother with the impression that the only reason H doesn't spend any time at our home is because I've made him unwelcome (basically rewriting the history of our relationship).  H still doesn't get why this bothers me and doesn't understand why I'd like him to rehabilitate my image with his brother.  I feel as though I don't exist.

  • Neglect and Indecisiveness by: Hydrogirl 9 years 9 months ago

    Ok im going to try to keep this brief.

     

    Fiance lied about taking meds for condition and consistently stated how they didnt help him while pretending to take pills in front of me. Found pills stashed in backpack day before bridal shower. I cancelled the wedding since he lied for 6 months to me, and did not have a shred of remorse for his actions. We have not been intimate in close to a year, nor does he desire to be. On Christmas Eve, I was given a gift of ammo and gun gear, rather than anything I asked for, and when I told him that as much I as i appreciated that he was excited that I enjoyed hunting with him, I found it selfish that he bought a gift that would benefit him rather than wanting to give me something I wanted. I bought him everything he asked for. Later that evening, I found an objectionable object in the shower that he used to pleasure himself. After consistently denying me intamacy, I was hurt. So, at this point, for the past year of our 3 year relationship, he consistently lies, neglects me, wont help with responsibilities, cost me several thousands of dollars on wrecks, breaking a lease for a job move, and forgetting about a ticket which went to warrant, he will not call or text me, and forgets anything I ask of him. So I asked him to move out and determine if he wanted to be single since his behaviour pointed highly to a single life. Fast forward 2 months, I might hear from him twice a week, he wont spend the night, still not intimate. However when I asked him to help pack up the wedding items to get rid of them he was dumbfounded because "we would be using these". I told him as understandingly as I could that I believed that he wanted out since I was not a priority, nor was trying to get us in a better place. He had promised he would take the meds and pursue me after he moved out to get good with me. He has not done either. Tonight at 8 pm he texted me claiming he was unable to get to the phone because he was on call. I know its a crock of crap since he had time to drive home from work and get dinner. He was supposed to spend the night this weekend and have a good date weekend with me. At 8:00 his text was, i was busy, you still want me to come. Im sorry, Im so mad.....this is the crap he pulls every weekend. How can he be so deluded that we have a future when this is how he acts. I guess this is my fault because I keep hoping he will actually miss the the 2 years of good "us" and act like Im a person and not an afterthought.  How much neglect can a person take before its time to give up? I remember several people asking him why he loved me, and he said he didnt know, and then they would ask "well, what attracted you to her" and his answer would be "I dont know", there doesnt seem to be anything that shows he loves me at all.

  • Cursing... by: pjkim2010vt@gma... 9 years 9 months ago

    I don't know if this is an ADHD issue or what. But you all have experience that I don't have, so I'm hoping you have some advice.

    my ADHD boyfriend and I just got into a fight. He seems to think its ok for couples to curse at each other. Jokingly, angrily, whatever. But if I get angry and accidentally curse at him, which I immediately regret, he's SO offended and SO hung up on it. 

    Finally, I got so tired of the argument, that I gave up. I said fine. We'll do this relationship the way you think it's supposed to be. You think your experience makes you wiser in that it's ok for couples to curse at each other, fine. You think I'm the crazy one to think that it's not ok. Then we will curse at each other and I won't get upset at you and you won't get upset at me.

     

    It just drives me crazy how hypocritical he is. In our argument, he said that "it's not what someone says to someone who they claim to love". That's my exact point. 

    First, am I wrong here? Am I crazy to think that it's not healthy for couples to curse at each other? That yes, it may happen, but we should make an effort not to. To choose better words. If I'm wrong, can someone please explain and help me understand?

    Second, if I'm not the crazy one, how can I make him understand?

    i appreciate any feedback. Thank you

  • Any hope of moving past the anger? by: Vivien 9 years 9 months ago

    I posted my story in another thread and keep coming here looking for help and answers.  I am not seeing much in the way of hope, or happy endings.  Is anyone aware of marriages that make it back to happy?  I am so scared right now that it's not possible.

     

     

  • Frustrated.... by: frustratedinNC 9 years 9 months ago

    These are my stories too.  My husband must have ADHD.  For 30, yes thirty, years,  I have lived with a man who has lost job after job and can't explain why.  We are currently suffering financially because his job situation just continues to get worse due to his lack of focus and organization.  He can't carry out simple tasks because he gets distracted doing others.  He never remembers anything I tell him and it makes me feel like he just doesn't care.  In the beginning of our marraige, he was so focused on me but lost that focus and now we barely communicate.  He can't hold a conversation for any length of time and a lot of the time falls asleep instead of listening.  If he attempts to read anything, he falls asleep.  Therefore, anything that relates to paperwork or paying bills, I am in charge of.  I feel like the biggest nag but what I have become is his mother.  I hate what I have become.....he is like having another child, a 58 year old child and I am just tired.  Tired and depressed and kind of done.  I am obviously angry at myself and at him.  I asked him years ago to go see someone because something was just not right.....of course, he never followed through.  I think I want to leave.....I have spent 30 years doing this.......I don't know that I am capable of doing the work to try and fix it.....I am too exhausted.

  • work vs. doing only what they want to do by: dedelight4 9 years 9 months ago

    I'd like to know how many other people with spouses who have ADHD, have this issue:  Work vs. them ONLY doing things they "want" to do......and even combining the two. I'll use an example. My husband has hyperactive ADHD, and I also believe there are co-morbid conditions, but not sure which ones yet. He's always been on the go......nonstop......even when he's "WORKING". BUT, most of his "work" (the work he does in his office at home) is stuff he invents and "makes up" to do. It's not work that MUST be done. I appreciate that he wants to try to do things to make more money, but these "work things" he invents never much go anywhere. By sheer volume and number of hours ALONE, we should be millionaires ten times over by now. He has spent hundreds and now.....thousands...of hours on music things trying to make money. If he had spent even a tiny FRACTION of that time ACTUALLY WORKING around the house and doing things that really NEEDED to be done, we've have the best looking house on the block AND have all paperwork, taxes, mail, phone calls, ETC...COMPLETELY DONE. He does finish most of these music things....unlike all the UNFINISHED PROJECTS around the house, but they aren't musical songs or items that are NEEDED and/or what music companies are actually looking for.  He IS very talented musically, and he is a genius with his KNOWLEDGE of music, but he isn't translating that into viable products.

        The one big thing that holds him back musically is that he doesn't have the natural GIFT of music, to where music is in his HEART and SOUL. He is someone who LEARNED music, and knows it in his head, but it isn't in his heart. I am a musician who's music has always come from my heart and soul, and I've never been able to separate the two. I don't have as much book knowledge as he does in music, but when we both perform, the difference is obvious. I play with feeling from my heart, and he plays from having "learned" the songs in his head and from knowing music. I play with my emotions and feelings, and actually PLAY MY FEELINGS into the piano. My husband's never been able to do that on his instrument. Many people have told me they hear this difference. He used to have a band and played weekends for cash and that was a big plus for us. Where we live now, there isn't much call for his type of music, or what he does.

         Anyway, when he does have household things that MUST be done, he gets all flustered and overwhelmed: LIKE.... make a phone call, and mail a letter, and pick up something from the store. If it's two or more things he gets SO FLUSTERED...constantly repeating...."There's SO MUCH TO BE DONE"...."There's so much to be done"...over and over again. When it would only take a few minutes or an hour to do all the things he just SAID. NO BIG DEAL. Most of the time HE HAS the time to do it, but he spends so much time on this "other stuff", that it takes up all his time.

         He won't do the things he's obsessing over, but then go up to his office and spend 6 or 8 MORE HOURS on music stuff.....which AGAIN...doesn't have to be done. But, the OTHER THINGS he's obsessing over...REALLY DO NEED TO GET DONE. So, why is he spending SO MUCH TIME just working on what he "wants" to do instead of what he really NEEDS to do. Is this once again typical ADHD? or just avoidance stuff? or both? I guess it's also a FOCUS thing too, right?

         He does work his regular job as a music professor, but the past couple years even THAT'S been suffering because he's just not "into it", and he's not getting enough students to have a full music department. But, God forbid he ever lose this job, because we would be sunk.....literally.

        So, I was just wondering if any of the rest of you deal with this as well.

        

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